Telegraph- Eight fire crews battle inferno at Hertfordshire bus depot
An electric bus caught fire on Sunday while it was charging at a depot, causing five other vehicles to become engulfed, as eyewitnesses described hearing an explosion “like a jet”.
h/t clipe
Eh, more work from home and 4 diesel buses died, so, it’s all good
They like to burn in convoys; they are most gregarious!
Another pandemic?
There is a part of petroleum that is not appreciated,and that is the free stuff that is the by product of the manufacture of diesel and gasoline. This free stuff is essential in the manufacturing of medicine and other essential products.They would be not available without the use of petroleum fuel.
I would like to know more about the by products you are referring to as ” free Stuff “. Seems to me that the enviro wackos and the climate Nazis should be held accountable if these things are no longer available somewhere down the road!
CO2?
‘Good money down a rat-hole. $3.5 billion to remove CO2 from the atmosphere. That CO2 was already in the atmosphere before shellfish and fossil fuels took it out over millions of years. Putting it back is a good thing. History will judge this stupidity.’
https://twitter.com/EcoSenseNow/status/1527499684935110656?s=20&t=sTFoWLayC9wBUK3j26SR7Q
A barrel of crude oil can produce about 19 US gallons of gasoline, 10 gallons of diesel, 4 gallons of jet fuel and another 9 gallons of other oil products
typically the other 9 gallons includes both short and long chain polymers, lubricants, and other precursor hydrocarbons.
it depends a lot on what the feedstock is however
Now the EV’s are taking out the diesels. “If we die, everybody dies!”
My local city councillor assured me that the City (of Ottawa) had refitted one of the bus depots receiving the fleet of new EV buses and this included the fire suppression system. I really don’t give a fuk until there is a fire. Then, as a taxpayer, the lawsuits begin.
“fire suppression system”
And how the eff does that work on a battery fire.
Apparently at least one fire department in Holland has a firetruck that is a tank and a crane to submerge burning electric cars (indirectly from a Dutch fireman). The bastards can burn for 2 days and destroy the road under it.
When one car can destroy thousands of others and sink a ship, I would think insurance should be brutal.
What’s the quote?
Once is random, Twice is coincidence, Thrice is enemy action?
My Day Job is in engineering. Not my direct job description but we are all expected to consider safety and risk reduction and given refresher training about twice a year.
(in case it comes up later, note that I deliberately say I work in engineering. Choice of words is deliberate so don’t think I am claiming status I don’t own 😛 )
The first time something goes wrong you can be – to a limited extent – excused on the grounds it was not a risk documented anywhere and that you were completely unaware such a situation could happen.
If the situation happens a second time then the question is more along the lines of ‘why didn’t you study the previous event and modify your processes based on the findings?’
Ignorance is only an excuse – and even then not a great one – the FIRST time something happens.
the short version is that a cell discharging is exothermic, so if you have an electrical short in the cell, (say because of a manufacturing defect, or a bad diode in charging circuit, or any number of other causes) the cell expands, and releases a bunch of heat into the adjacent cells, which then short, discharge rapidly, thus producing more heat, in a lovely chain reaction of thermal and electrical energy release.
I’m curious if they don’t run the cooling system during charging because that portion of the cycle is endothermic…
Come see the carbon footprint inherent in the green virtue signalling!
https://youtu.be/peT72jWHXfM
The purpose of this study is to review carbon sequestration by coccolithophores and consider it as a controllable technology. Recent research suggesting runaway global warming has inspired some scientists to propose methods to intervene in global geochemical processes and prevent future catastrophes. These include schemes to sequester carbon dioxide under oceans, use of orbiting mirrors to reflect energy into space before it can heat the atmosphere or seeding the atmosphere with sulfur compounds which precipitate clouds and reflect radiant energy. However, diverse scientific literature shows there is no agreement on the best methods to attempt and very little empirical experimentation to suggest which are practical. Additionally, there are some unexpected consequences suggested by critics which show many proposals for global geochemical engineering are fraught with danger and that they effectively replace one problem with another, rather than improve matters. However, geochemical systems are in stable equilibrium with each other and for that reason doing nothing may be the best tactic for global geochemical engineering. Geologic history has shown that natural processes give negative feedback to perturbations in the atmosphere, attenuating runaway global warming without human intervention and the White Cliffs of Dover are a great example of this. Control of calcite formation from coccoliths is a complex problem beyond our present technology.https://scialert.net/fulltext/?doi=ecologia.2011.23.30
What color is the burning boathouse at Hereford?
My bus smells like burning (Ralph’s plaintive voice). Sorry … I just love that scene from Ronin …
Something like 15 years ago Edmonton got rid of its overhead lines that powered the last of the electric buses. The system worked wonderfully for 70 years and at the time the communists idiots on Edmonton City Council were committed to ending greenhouse gasses. The drooling knuckle dragging morons had the perfect system but destroyed it. Now they are buying battery powered buses, the kind that self immolate. Has there ever been a stupider bunch than Edmonton City Council?
Be sure to send your kid to school on an electric school bus.
https://vancouversun.com/news/b-c-s-inaugural-fleet-of-electric-school-buses-roll-out-this-week
L – The real headline: “British gov’t discovers way to reduce the number of unemployed!”
Some governments give social assistance recipients a free bus pass. Now we know why.