The Decline And Fall Of The American Empire

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The latest: 52 bombers head to Afghanistan.. to bomb their own planes.

Bumped for update: US Embassy will be completely evacuated within 72 hours and staff are already being rushed to Kabul airport as Taliban warlords close in: First of 3,000 Marines arrive and refugee crisis begins.

Bad news for a Biden White House making plans to pull their staff from the roof of the American Embassy — the Taliban are in the air.

Related: The Taliban are now in possession of more Blackhawk helicopters than 166 other nations around the globe.

It was always impossible to destroy the Taliban, or so we shall be told by all the sombre grey generals of CNN. Just as it was impossible to destroy ISIS.

152 Replies to “The Decline And Fall Of The American Empire”

        1. Unfair odds for the Taliban if the US were allowed to shoot. But of course, they are just their to hoplds hands in support.

    2. Well, Obama did send some pallets pf hard cash to Iran. So, disaster, or according to plan. Just depends on your point of view, and your assumptions about their motivations.

    3. I wonder if they left a big pile of spare parts and service manuals in their preferred language for them as well.

      1. I have seen utube videos of them making from scratch AK 47’s by hand in the bazaars.
        If they can do that, I think they have no problems repairing just about any hand me down left behind.

        1. Keep military aircraft in the air requires an enormous amount of expertise and supplies.

          2. Yes. It also requires men that are technically oriented, trained and disciplined. You need “modern” people, that have been living in a mechanized society for a while. The Japanese were not very good at aircraft maintenance in WW2, for example. Many were just peasants trained as soldiers.

  2. Helpful Hint. The Afghans were always working both sides of the street. We probably trained 30% of the Taliban “fighters”. But lots of those desk bound commandos in the Pentagon got their medals and ribbons (and pensions + lucrative consulting contracts) so it’s all good.

    1. A nation is defined as a geographical area with a common administrative authority. The terrain of Afghanistan makes governance by the Mayor of Kabul (i.e. the “King” of Afghanistan) impossible.

      So the locals play acted whatever part would garner them the most swag from the U.S., always knowing that when the U.S. got bored and left that the driver’s licenses for the women of Kabul would be revoked, perhaps with reprisals, and the schools for girls would be destroyed or repurposed.

      How much of this did western policy makers understand from the getgo?

      1. None! When will we ever learn that if you commit to war. You must finish it in a proper way. Not this wishy washy crap.
        Just re watched « JFK » to remind me what the free world really means.

  3. So if the intention was to make the Middle East much more dangerous and increase the chances of a huge conflict that will greatly endanger what is increasingly becoming the World’s No.1 supply of oil I call it “Mission Accomplished”. The Taliban can open up terrorist training theme parks with all the American weaponry they’ve been basically given the keys to. All those lives wasted!!! I’m still pissed over the previously liberated Afghanistan new constitution being allowed to put the Koran first instead of equal individual rights, freedom and justice for all – the fallout from that is what the heck do the people have to fight for? The Koran is an all-controlling ideology no matter what color the burkas are. All those Canadian soldiers that came home in body bags…I can’t imagine what the parents and sibs of those incredibly brave men and women who died essentially for nothing. The decision to recklessly abandon Afghanistan falls on JT’s head too. The U.S. would not have done what they did without consent of their Allies. Who’s the biggest loser besides Afghan women? It’s the country that Barry, Biden and the Dems have been subverting at every opportunity since 9/11: Israel. I wonder how many months (or weeks) until Iran tests its first nuke? Will a threatened Israel without Benji at the helm strike first? What will Saudi do to protect the family biz? Note to Trump: in 2024 have Foreign Policy as THE FIRST DEBATE SUBJECT. It was the one debate subject conspicuously missing from 2020 – on purpose I believe.

  4. They may have aircraft and fly them, but that won’t last for very long. You are talking about rather complex machines that require a rather lot of ongoing maintenance. While we did train Afghans to perform that maintenance, they proved to be rather poor at actually doing it. Unless they bring in outside help (and pay for it how, exactly?) those aircraft will be mostly out of commission within 6 months. I suppose we might have the Chinese coming in with “assistance” but the Chinese will likely end up with the same result as the Brits, Russians, and now the USA have experienced.

    Unfortunately, the aircraft and other technically complex equipment will continue to work for a while, right through the window of time needed for Biden’s Bugout to be accomplished. The disaster, as bad as it currently is, will simply get much worse.

    2. Yes, but , history shows us the equipment may only have to work once in the right situation. Think Kamikaze!

    3. “won’t last for very long”

      Defense contractors are very clever about engineering equipment that generates recurring maintenance revenue streams.

      1. They wiII make the revenue by seIIing a few to China, or Russia. Not that the Chinese do not aIready own most of the pIans in any event……

    4. I’m fairly certain the Chinese have stolen the maintenance manuals. Will come in handy when they buy the Blackhawks for a song and spare parts from their Chengdu manufacturer.

      Will come in handy for the surprise operation: OMIC Old Man Ice cream (to nawiaT).

      Of course the Iranians still ‘fly’ F14s.

      So many options.

      1. Remember nuclear-armed Pakistan is the sponsor of this Taliban outfit. They have a functioning air force and their Chinese friends have plenty of resources to lend.

      2. The Chinese will figure out why Afghanistan is called the “graveyard of empires”. Not even the bride-less Chinese soldiers will want to stick around.

        Wasn’t the Korean War enough of a bloodbath?

        1. Life was cheap to the Chinese when they invaded Korea.

          Many of the troops were sent in without weapons, the idea being that they could always pick up those dropped by their comrades when they were killed or wounded. As well, many didn’t have proper winter gear when they attacked the Marines at the Chosun Reservoir, resulting in Chinese troops losing body parts due to the cold. Being captured by the Americans was a relief to them because they were given proper medical care.

        2. When you are Chinese, if you are a one in a million person (pilot, singer, etc) it just means that there are thousands like you.

    5. The Chicoms and Paks will do it “for free”.It will provide another front owards India, who is on our side, BTW.

    6. They don’t see the hardware as weaponry.
      They see it as currency to willing buyers that would like to use them to attack US interests.

      Only growth industry in Afghanistan was extortion and opium production, then they added terrorist training and safe haven.
      They are now going into arms trading.

      1. I remember that Shafia guy who killed his daughters and his wife/sister in the canal down east.
        He was ALWAYS described as an “Afghani business man”. Fine oriental carpets I guess.

    8. Aircraft mechanics have been known to work behind enemy lines. If the moneys right you’ll be able to hire it out.

      1. Working for the Saudis or Iranians is one thing. But the Taliban? These guys will behead you for any reason. I don’t know who would want to work for them, for any amount of money.

    9. Chinese and Russian ‘military advisors’ will be moving in pretty quick. Those aircraft are going to work just fine.

  5. Nobody thought of putting GPS tracking on these things? Some sort of anti theft device. Or even a frigging steering wheel lock?

    2. And you think that a mechanic qualified to keep a chopper running would not be able to disable that device?

    3. How about just a grenade stuck in the gearboxes? Hey, a shoulder fired rocket launcher? And booby trap the embassy, nuclear would be fine with me….what’s this wire do…flash. Biden is working for the Chicoms, so are most of the high command. Prove me wrong.

    4. None! When will we ever learn that if you commit to war. You must finish it in a proper way. Not this wishy washy crap.
      Just re watched « JFK » to remind me what the free world really means.

    5. No. They were too busy pursuing your agenda for gender-elimination and population replacement (aka genocide). Sorry. Better luck next time. Ya cumb dunt.

  6. Given a guess, and its just a guess, “Spooky” missions to deal with left over equipment will increase dramatically.

  7. I see it as a technology coup for the Chinese and a wonderful opportunity for them to take a peek at some things they could only dream of.
    What a mess.

    2. China has already announced they will recognize the Taliban as the legitimate government of Afghanistan and start sending in advisors and assistance in setting up the nation’s infrastructure. The Chinese will likely end up handling the Taliban exactly they was they handled the Uygers. They have pretty much run out of Muslim slaves so now they will have a new source.

        1. The previous group were nations born in and of a Christian/Enlightenment tradition (yes, even the Soviets). That last one … Not so much. Kinetic genocide is not seen as problematic by that last nation. And theyr are self-declared National Socialists. So, could be rough times ahead for the Taliban.

  9. The Islamic wastelands of Afghanistan now have US hardware to add to their their British 303s and Russian AK47s. It’s where Empires go to die and the US attempt ended up the same. Using an invading military force successfully against a determined, motivated, and culturally confident “people” rather than another military doesn’t usually work out well for the invaders. The US has no stomach for, nor should they have, for a long game which would have had to be primarily involved in religious conversion and long, costly nation building (particularly as their own is slowly collapsing). I, like many on this site supported it almost twenty years ago but came to see the reality within a few years. I supported the troops but not their mission.

    1. That was HER plan all along. And SHE actually thought the Libyan “Freedom Fighters” would embrace HER and the Ambassador in Benghazi … because of HER “open arms” policy toward radical Islam. All because … “Equity” … or something.

      1. I must find more subtle ways of stating the bleeding obvious 🙂 I understand a carelessly crafted inuendo can lead to law suites.

  10. More refugees will be pouring into Canada from Afghanistan beside the entitled ones like the translators. Nice shootout at the Sherway Mall from our brothers in diversity. We saw how quickly Afghanistan, Vietnam, Iraq, etc collapsed along with millions of muslims flooding Europe along with escalating violence. Think it wont happen here as I see more hijabs every day. We have well over a million muslims already here.

    Love to know where all these so-called leaders like Trudope and Bidet thing they are going to run to after the collapse.

    1. The number one issue facing Western Civilization is human migration. Ironically, the proliferation of western food production and medical technologies after the collapse of the USSR has resulted in a dramatic increase in lifespans and an explosion of population in Northern Africa, Southern Africa, the Middle East, and East Asia [aside: anyone else notice how Capitalism increases the number of people while Marxism decreases the number of people?].

      A critical question for the future state of humanity is: how will Islam respond to its rapidly increasing numbers? Will it burn off the excess population with internal and external violence or will it evolve and put its new people to productive, positive use? The answer, I think, can be found in the internal philosophical debates which must be taking place within Muslim societies. Will the traditionalists prevail or will the advocates for change? I’m not sure any external scholar, no matter how well informed, can predict the outcome.

      As events play out, what are the best short-term policies for the West to adopt?

      1. We’ve already adopted our policy … white guilt. We will allow the invasion of our (formerly) safe, secure, lands because … “why should we have it so good, when so many throughout the world don’t?” “We’re no better than they are”. “We need to get off our high horse”.

    2. You don’t understand, the globe will be 1° hotter in 100 years. That is way more important than than societal wreckage.

    4. The Boomers have left this country a smoking pile of rubble for future generations to inherit, and yet they still cling to power, as if there’s still more they want to destroy.

  11. In the thread, further down, it claims the Mil mi-17 footage was that of a CIA backed team.
    In my opinion, there is no indication that either label is in error.

    They say Biden will be at brain Camp David for the next five days.
    At this moment I’ll double down on my prediction of this president’s demise and the cause:

    Oct. 25th, “suicide”. The perfect scapegoat.

      1. More interesting will be the death at exactly the same time. My money is on that evil Maxwell woman.

        Oh, and my money is also on choking on iced cream, a chunk of waffle cone. Orange Man’s fault.

        1. Don’t know how/when Dementia-Joe expires … but I know what the Funeral will look like: Every ex-POTUS will attend the funeral (following a month of mourning and lying in-state at the Capital rotunda) … except one. It will be claimed that ONE ex-POTUS had “defiled the Capital” … defiled the “institution” and defiled “Democracy” when he questioned the election FRAUD. The media handmaidens will worship Biden’s 50 years of selfless *cough* *cough* service to “Democracy”

          And Apoo will be a pallbearer …

    2. Hoping Kate will give some of us a “do over” on that. My first pick was May 17th. I’ll match your Oct. 25th and raise you to Oct. 17th.

      2. See now… you’re doing it to yourself again.
        25th is my b-day, it would make for a memorable, well, gift really.
        But, if I were to be granted a Mulligan, while not changing my thinking too much, I think it more probable that such an event will happen just after the November elections. I’d go with AM on the 5th. I’m sticking with suicide.

  12. I look forward to Xiden-Heiress being airlifted off the roof of the White House.

    Never in my lifetime has any Presidential Administration made such a mess of America in a short 7-mos. … EVER. And when the 2022 election is STOLEN by the Lambda variant … there will be blood.

  13. “It was always impossible to destroy the Taliban”
    I think that is true. Afghanistan has always struck me as being similar to the Scottish Highlands, another region which defiantly resisted conquest by powerful empires. Geographically isolated communities loosely governed by parasitic thuggish clans which battled with one another for territory and influence, occasionally united by an impulse to rid the region of foreign interlopers. Impoverished, bolstered by strong faith, barbaric. More whiskey and men in skirts in Scotland. Young boys used for lewd recreation in Afghanistan. Goat entrails used for fine cuisine and musical instruments in the Highlands. Goat carcasses used for polo in Afghanistan.

    1. If you really had the stomach and ruthlessness for it , you could go Japanese.
      Drop a few H-Bombs salted with lots of cobalt, cesium , beryllium and strontium 90 to truly finish them off.
      Then occasionally poison their water supplies.
      I think they would get the hint then.

      1. Where? the Taliban would still be taking and raping, whether or not the cities exist.

        The Chinese will, ironically, bitch about air pollution coming over from Afghanistan.

        1. All the pearl clutching leftists here in America will join NGO’s providing Iodine tablets, and lead-lined tents to the victims of the latest patriarchal capitalist atrocity committed against defenseless people with tanned skin.

          The world has gone mad, and college sophomoric “thinking” has reversed 150 years of progress. The West is on one mass apology-fest … apologizing for success. Apologizing for living BETTER than most other humans on the planet. These people are destroyers … their hero and ultra elitist, BHO … insists that the West …” get off our high horse”. Apology. Guilt. White guilt. Capitalist Guilt. All self-imposed and self-directed.

          Yet these people have not created ONE single element of our cushy lives. They know nothing of the abundant, cheap, energy that has created our nirvana. They didn’t design a single dam, or water system. They didn’t string electrical wires. They haven’t built a goddammned thing. But they sure want to tear it all down maa’aaan.

          It’s time to kick these sophomoric whiners to the gutter … where they belong.

    2. ““It was always impossible to destroy the Taliban”
      I think that is true. Afghanistan has always struck me as being similar to the Scottish Highlands, another region which defiantly resisted conquest by powerful empires.”

      It was true at one time, but no longer.

      People are always referring to the British or French or German empires of the 19th century as being unable to win against the Afghans/Indians/Turks/Zulus (et al). That’s all well and good, but those armies didn’t have satellites, drones, thermal imaging, ground-penetrating radar, bunker busters, smart bombs, cruise missiles etc. The US could easily have defeated the Taliban (and the Viet Cong, for that matter) if they had simply been willing to *take the fight to the enemy*. In other words, when the guerillas attack you, then skip back across the border to their safe havens in Pakistan (or Laos, or Cambodia), YOU FOLLOW. You don’t respect borders that they don’t respect…you just hunt them down and kill them.

      AND the people who aid and shelter them, of course…no matter what country they try to take refuge in; when you find entire villages full of Taliban sympathizers, you wipe THEM out as well. No ’embedded’ journalists around to make sure you are playing nice, either.

      (yes, of course…you give the appropriate warnings first, but you make sure that *everyone* knows the price of aiding the Taliban)

      I know, I know…this will never happen. It’s just the only way that it possibly could happen, if the political will was there. It isn’t and will never be…but that still doesn’t make “the graveyard of empires” anything more than a story from the past.

      1. I wonder how long it will be before JT buys a house next to some one here with OUR money and installs a Taliban member in it?

      2. “you just hunt them down and kill them. AND the people who aid and shelter them, of course…no matter what country they try to take refuge in; when you find entire villages full of Taliban sympathizers, you wipe THEM out as well…It’s just the only way that it possibly could happen, if the political will was there.”

        You’re describing war crimes.

        1. Of course the Taliban follow the Marquess of Queensbury rules of warfare.
          They would never, ever commit a war crime. Like say bomb a wedding party.

          Trump isn’t much better than Biden on this issue. Although when Trump cut and ran he at least ordered an orderly withdraw.

        2. No. He’s describing how to win a war in the modern era (since 1939-45). You need to be prepared to kill, and kill and kill (see US/BR European air campaign, esp. Dresden, and US fire bomb campaign over Japan, culminating in A-Bombs) until the enemy are either all dead or those who are left are ready to unconditionally surrender.

          The problem with the Taliban is that Islam (and the MSM never connects the dots for the masses to understand that the Taliban is Islam) will never actually “surrender”, just lie and concede until they can re-organize to resume their jihad, i.e. the war will never be over for them (they, like the CCP, are masters of the “long game”). Something the “powers that be” are either incapable or (more likely) are corruptibly unwilling to comprehend.

          1. Completely agreed. If there was ever a defense of “genocide” … it is “Tallieebahnocide” (and Al Quedaocide). These people must be completely wiped off the face of the earth, and their lands salted and burned. The lesson must be that this 7th Century thinking and behavior has NO PLACE in the 21st Century world. Period. Wherever it pops up … it will be given the flamethrower treatment. Their fundamentalist religion and culture has had no REFORMATION as has every other religion and culture in the world. Too late. I’m not interested in sending your brave, noble, wonderful, soldiers of Allah to “Residential Schools” for integration into civilized society. No. You are all lost causes and are better off dead.

            Let me guess … that personal belief is gonna get the DHS to label me a “Domestic Terrorist”. Hey DHS! FOAD!

          2. “No. He’s describing how to win a war in the modern era (since 1939-45). You need to be prepared to kill, and kill and kill (see US/BR European air campaign, esp. Dresden, and US fire bomb campaign over Japan, culminating in A-Bombs)”

            There are still people out there, to this day, who condemn and castigate the US for having used the a-bomb to end the war.

            They fail to understand the Japanese mindset at all, and the fact that those bombs saved hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of lives, or that only Japanese intransigence and arrogance made the second bomb necessary.

        3. “You’re describing war crimes.”

          Nope. I’m describing war. The Taliban USE these villages to store armaments and launch attacks from (much like Hamas and Hezbollah, they use civilians as human shields whenever they can). If these villages are really their supporters (and not hostages), they need to be eliminated.

          Did you miss this part?:

          “(yes, of course…you give the appropriate warnings first, but you make sure that *everyone* knows the price of aiding the Taliban)”

          If you want to WIN, that’s what you do. Oh, I suppose you could blockade and starve them out, but that is even worse for the innocents than warning them to stay 500 yards away from any Taliban they see; we know from long experience that whatever food might make it though a blockade would be immediately seized by the Taliban for their own use while they allow women and children to starve (because women and children, you know, aren’t as valuable as men. Or rifles. Or dogs.)

        4. Prior to 1910, war itself was a war crime. Your quaint Western notion of war crimes will soon be getting tossed overboard by the guys who are playing to win.

          “Oh no, watch out, we’re committing war crimes. We are about to get a strongly-worded letter from some metrosexual EU bureaucrat. Run, Forrest, Run!”

          1. Of all the ills that the United States has inflicted on the world, the most grievous may be the export of its Stone Age conception of warfare. I can’t really fault them for having come to fight wars this way, as this mindset was likely absorbed via cultural osmosis from the Stone Age tribes that Americans spent several centuries fighting, but there’s something extremely parochial about projecting it (and its barbaric “unconditional surrender” corollary) onto the civilization at large as the *only* way to prosecute conflicts of a military nature.

  14. The Biden administration again substitutes a narrative for reality, with the usual disastrous and lethal results. What they do.
    The Afghan forces are “American trained,” yet the only skill they’ve exhibited on contact with the Taliban is running away.

    “Many soldiers and police are also posted to areas far from their homes, to which they have no connection, and some choose to abandon their posts and return home to defend their families, the magazine said.”

    The Taliban have also been seizing weapon caches from Afghan forces, which are often Western supplied.”

    Although US forces left with their “sophisticated” equipment, the Taliban offensive has allowed the group to seize “vehicles, humvees, small arms, and light weapons, as well as ammunition.”

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/why-the-us-trained-afghan-national-army-have-been-defeated-with-ease-by-the-taliban/ar-AANk1H0

    Now we can all watch a Democrat demoralized US military practice running away skills, with the Taliban getting the memo.

    They’ll take a bow later. Yes, time to leave that storied and sorry nation, but did they have to give the Taliban a roadmap to power, to embolden them to again attack the US and other nations?

    Special forces and drones will require scaling up, but will that happen given it’s probably racist?

    1. ” give the Taliban a roadmap to power, to embolden them to again attack the US and other nations”

      When has the Taliban stepped outside of Afghanistan to attack anyone? Sure, as a poor region, Afghanistan allowed external groups with a little cash to wave around to train there, but the Taliban doesn’t have any real beef with other nations.

      It is important to be clear about who is who and what their motivations and agendas are.

      1. Are you serious? History not your forte? Do you actually think the Taliban had nothing do with AQ executing attacks from their soil? They demanded unavailable truth before dealing with OBL. They are cut from the very same Islamist cloth.

        THEY.HATE.OUR.GUTS. That doesn’t mean we need to invade and occupy them. That was neo-con stupidity.

        But they are a definite threat, to be dealt with by the Abbotobad approach. Enter stealthily, kill the idiots, then go home.

        Clinton failed miserably containing AQ. How can anyone think Biden will show the required resolve to protect his homeland?

        Disassociating the Taliban (not just in Afghanistan), from their obvious Islamist brethren is at best breathtaking naivety.

        1. Add 20-years of US Military occupancy of their (sacred, Islamic) lands … and you can BET the Tallybahn (sic) are gonna find their way into the mass of humanity illegally crossing Western borders. And since our woke Intelligence Agencies won’t dare question these outlaws motives … you can BET a Tallybahn (sic) attack on American soil is in our future.

          That kind of naivety costs lives. Let’s hope their attack doesn’t target our little girls in elementary school. They seem to favor those … “soft” targets

    2. Like the South Vitnamese (Italian, French, insert broken army name), rifles never fired and only been dropped once.

      1. I read the ARVN lost numerous thousands in the last few months. I met one and he hated Reds. I liked him.

    3. Every SF guy requires 10-20 support, all tge way back to the states.
      5,000 SF require 50-100,000 .
      All in health, buildings, pensions, fuel, equipment…guess at 1/2 mil$/yr. Easy. Thats. Near $50 billion.

      Then what? Rebuild, re-Gay, re-train….?

  15. Afghanistan, I no longer give a damn. I used to be concerned about the violent killing of women, well, American and Canadian women didn’t give a damn why should I?

    1. Agreed. 20 years later We’re being run by a tyrannical government here in Canada too. Fuck them and everyone else. I’m so damn jaded now it’s unbelievable. Yesterday I found out i’m one of thousands to be mandated for a potential lethal injection. I’ve got no fucks to give for Afghans plight, Haiti earthquake victims, nothing. Every man for himself at this point…..

  16. At the fall of Saigon, the Soviets likely talked the NVA out of using their MiG’s on the fleeing Americans. Or, the NVA were concerned about possible retaliation.
    In the case of the Taliban, if Allah (through an Imam) says to go for it, expect a strafing of the helicopter trying to evacuate the US Embassy. If the US does retaliate, it is just the Will of Allah.
    The Taliban finds the West wanting and in need of being destroyed. They are not likely to be satisfied with just flipping the bird at the fleeing forces and leaving it at that. They will be completely on board with helping whoever take the fight to our front doors.

  17. Chalk up another loss. The world has slipped out of America’s control. Let’s just move on, we’ve got our own problems that pose a real threat to us and at the moment seem insurmountable.

  18. “It was always impossible to destroy the Taliban, or so we shall be told by all the sombre grey generals of CNN. Just as it was impossible to destroy ISIS.”

    Only with the idiotic rules of engagement that the West has chosen. They could have been Daleked with little trouble. Just forget all retarded ideas about “nation building” and accept somewhat larger collateral damage (nothing of value would be lost anyway).

    1. ” EXTERMINATE , EXTERMINATE ” .
      Always loved me some Dr.Who , but not this latest woke drivel with a gay female Dr.

        1. With the original series, the last version of the Doctor that I liked was Tom Baker’s. With the revived series, I bailed out part way through David Tennant’s tenure. The show had become way to ridiculous for me by then.

          I can make those assessments as I can remember the original William Hartnell episodes when they were on CBC.

          1. I liked Matt Smith, especially when he showed up as Prince Phillip on the Crown. I keep asking my wife;. “But where is the damned Tardis?!” She is long suffering.

          2. Citing Dr who in this thread!?
            Grow up, boys. Context and history.
            I am sad for all the US and Canadian soldiers, and other NATO troops, who have either died or suffered beyond what I can conceive, to witness this.

          3. Yes citing Dr Who. Out of frustration and gallows humor. Deal with it cupcake. It took idiots in charge two decades to realize that you cannot play “nation building” with goat molesting cavemen. Turn the whole place into a glow in the dark crater as far as I am concerned. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whNttXWlgoQ

    2. “Only with the idiotic rules of engagement that the West has chosen. They could have been Daleked with little trouble. Just forget all retarded ideas about “nation building” and accept somewhat larger collateral damage (nothing of value would be lost anyway).”

      Agreed. I wonder how real soldiers feel about being micro-managed by politicians? They must miss the days when they were just told to go do a job, and they did.

  19. The ghostly image of Biden and his ice cream? PERFECT!!!! That’s his legacy right there.

    1. That ghostly image should be in everything the GOP publishes for the next 12 years.

      Maybe they need to develop a 90% translucent montage of the Democrat’s greatest failures? Carter, fading to Obama, fading to Biden, fading to the MS St Louis being turned away, fading to a montage of everyone ever photographed with the Reverend Jones, fading to, …

  20. I still want to see the Afghan rules of engagement on every news website in this country. That alone would put a stop to any more foreign adventures.

    1. The thoroughly corrupted CBC only does what’s in the best interests of the Liberal Party.

      1. “The thoroughly corrupted CBC only does what’s in the best interests of the Liberal Party.”

        Absolutely, which is why I am so happy to be allowed to post stuff here that would never, ever see the light of day on the CBC website (or any other MSM outlet, for that matter). Kate is awesome.

  21. We’re so lucky in Canada, no worries beyond getting the election going and gaining more power.

  23. This was not accidental or unavoidable. Seems very much like the sort of plan that Obama would use his idiot puppet for

    He just armed radical Islam to the teeth.

    Tell me that wasn’t the plan.

    Might even be making some cash under the table on it.

  24. Let us see now.
    From the time of Alexander, they tried to conquer the damn place.
    When the last king ‘ruled’ the place, he probably ruled only the neighborhood of Kabul, whatever place that they have there.
    The scattered tribes in the desert and in the valleys of the mountains, ruled themselves. No king or any such character would show his face in the tribal lands, lest he wanted to die or something.
    No white racist would agree with the modes and methods that were not changed in a thousand years. It seemed to have worked for them, however bad it was. They have worked out the hierarchy of tribes and lived their lives. When you think about it, they probably had hard life in the desert and all the inhospitable places in that country. If some smart ass, social justice practitioner insisted to enter their compounds and do one upmanship, he would likely meet his death in rather short order.

    They seem to have been proud people.
    There was a program on the idiot tube many, many years ago, before all the ‘nation building’ started where they showed these people of one of the tribes in the mountains. They probably had no idea that they were Afghanis.
    They would proudly say that they were descendants of Alexander’s Macedonians.
    They also mentioned that for some reason the women could only have two children, if they tried for more, they would die.
    The women would be on the mountain side chatting away, the commentary said that they mostly talked about sex. Go figure.
    Then islam took over and it all went downhill to hell from then on.
    And here they are.

    Taliban, as bad as they may be, are afghanis. They own the country, its theirs and nobody is gonna tell them how to run it.
    The thing is, you can’t make war against a country. They people will join together and fight, because its their country.
    There is one thing that the ‘civilized’ have not learned, you can’t impose ‘civilization’ on people, it’s not up to you. Takes years and hardship to develop.
    There is plenty of examples from history of the world of ‘superior’ races insisting that the ‘inferior’ should listen to them …. it’s for their own good.
    Hmmm ….. where did you hear that before?

    While corruption in the English sense was and is as a matter of fact, a cost of business. As anybody that reads, knows that corruption runs the world, somewhere less, somewhere more.
    In North America we are drowning in corruption, the bottom feeders just make it sound good.

    So Afghanistan may be old fashioned it’s up to par as far as corruption goes.
    This could go on and on, better stop now.

    1. “Taliban, as bad as they may be, are afghanis. They own the country, its theirs and nobody is gonna tell them how to run it.
      The thing is, you can’t make war against a country. They people will join together and fight, because its their country.
      There is one thing that the ‘civilized’ have not learned, you can’t impose ‘civilization’ on people, it’s not up to you. Takes years and hardship to develop.”

      Here’s the problem as I see it.

      These “proud people” want to continue to live as they did in they 7th century, but they want to do it with all the modern conveniences like automobiles, cell phones and modern weaponry. They also want to *export* their way of life to other nations, and they do so with the tacit support of Pakistan, a NUCLEAR armed nation where they have many supporters and much influence.

      Unacceptable.

  26. “The Taliban are now in possession of more Blackhawk helicopters than 166 other nations around the globe.”

    Coincidently, this is probably the stupidest line I have read in a while. One may as well claim that the Taliban now rape more goats than 2000 other nations around the universe. There is nothing special about basic Blackhawk. It is battle taxi. Most nations don’t use them not because they can’t get their hands on them but because they don’t need them or use something equivalent etc.

      1. The only good thing about that is it will be hard for Canada to use its military to round up vaccine rejectors for the internment camps.

    2. Look up the definition of “war prize.” Doesn’t matter if it is useful, doesn’t matter if its a WW-I-era French battleship. All that matters is that it has a literal or metaphorical flag on it and that it is seen on the loser’s television screens. A huge propaganda win and an enormous morale booster.

      1. Whooosh.

        That’s not the point. The point is that stating that goat molesters have more Blackhawks than 166 nations is inane. As most nations have zero Blackhawks and need zero Blackhawks.

        About 30 nations in the world use at least one Blackhawk. The rest use zero. There are about 193 states in UN. That means that 163 nations have zero Blackhawks. Hence if you have at least one Blackhawk you automatically own more Blackhawks than 163 nations. Do I really need to elaborate?

    3. I know Canada would be a helluva lot better off with Blackhawns that those fucking Griffon.

  27. This is personally devastating for us though I can’t get into why beyond we have a translator family there we have been trying to get out and we’ve been stymied over and over again by the incompetents at the department of Blocking Immigration and Abandoning Refugees. The regular email updates we have been getting have become increasingly infrequent and desperate. I now doubt they will survive. Well the little girls will, added to some Taliban harem.

    1. Translators and their families are not likely to become Liberal voters, which is why our government is throwing every bureaucratic axe at them.

      1. And they are doing a very fine job. It’s like when the Americans demanded fleeing Jews provide a letter of good conduct from their local gestapo before letting them in. The more things change the more they stay the same. No human being should ever have their life depend on the ability of anonymous bureaucrats to shuffle paper.

      2. For years I have been working in retail in Texas with translators and cultural advisers who have fled from the nation building exercises in Iraq and Afghanistan. I have also been working with other Iraqis and Afghanis and even former Afghan army vets. Many are angry that they had to leave their homes to avoid having their entire families brutally killed. The money they were paid was very good, but they deeply regret having gotten involved with the U.S. efforts.

        One is definitely ripe for islamic recruitment. He is lonely, alienated, frustrated, looking for a direction for his life. He has some scarring on his arms from shrapnel that he took in a firefight even though he was not military and thought he would never be near combat.

        One Afghan army vet moved to California because it pays better welfare.

        One adviser still receives a stipend and would disappear from work for a few days every now and then to go to a local army base to help out.

        Their seems to be a lot of Iraqis who had no obvious reason to be brought to the U.S. They had a lot to learn about U.S. culture such as to bathe every day (some customers were complaining) and that Americans, despite propaganda to the contrary, don’t want to see adult men french kissing one another in public. They also had to learn that most Americans, including 18-20 year olds, find it very strange when a man, who is married and has several children, walks around bragging about his “girlfriend” who is another man who is also married and has several children and neither feels any embarrassment about other people knowing.

        Oh, and a theme amongst them all is that Quaddafi wasn’t a dictator because he spent a lot of money on schools and roads and such and that Kuwait is a great country because the government pays to make housing and energy almost free for most people.

        So, my anecdotal experience is that refugees from that region, at least the none university educated ones, are natural freeloaders and, in some ways, assist in the leftist culture war.

        One last thing: I think their was some kind of arrangement between the company I work for and the U.S. govt to provide guaranteed employment for these folks.

  31. The election was stolen. Trump did win. I am now officially “tired of winning.” And I’ll wager I’m not alone.

    2. There is a non-zero chance that Biden concludes a live press brief by barking “Trump won. I quit!”

  32. There is a life lesson here that should resonate with all Canucks-a population that OWNS GUNS cannot be pacified be even the greatest militaries.
    Learn it well.

    1. Beautifully put. Which is precisely why the leftist governments in Canada and The USA seek to impose ever greater “gun control” laws … aka disarm every citizen.

  34. “The lesson must be that this 7th Century thinking and behavior has NO PLACE in the 21st Century world. Period. ”

    That’s hard lesson for some to learn, but a necessary one. Well said.

  35. 20 some or more years, billions spent and Americans lives spent and in the end China to recognize the Taliban as the legitimate government of Afghanistan? Todays Chinese generals study Sun Tzu and todays Americas generals study woke..

  36. If you listen to the media you’d think the Taliban are marching toward the capital Kabul preparing to fight and take the city.

    Nothing could be further from the truth. The city is already full of Taliban- they live there. They always have. Now they are just going to take the reigns of power.

    Hope the Bong gets our embassy staff out of there with more efficiency than the evacuation of the translators.

  37. After 9/11 if you told me that in twenty years I’d be cheering on the Taliban’s final victory over the US, I wouldn’t have believed you. Yet here we are.

    The Gay American Empire is slinking away in disgrace with its rainbow flags tattered and torn, and it’s a beautiful thing. It’s a massive loss for homosexualism, feminism, globalism and liberalism.

    Can the Taliban invade us next, please?

  38. Afghans and the Taliban had nothing to do with 9/11 and they never attacked the US . That was a Saudi plot. We could have just left them alone to rot in their filth and ignorance (that goes for a lot of other places too). The problem is that Washington DC is an imperial capital, they are always looking for foreign business to stick their noses into, and they have a military that is thoroughly politicized and willing to go along with imperial adventures.
    The Taliban would not have defeated the Russians without western, mainly US, help. The Najibullah govt. that the Russians installed should have been acceptable to the west, but US policy was being formulated by rabid anti-russian nuitcases like Zbiegnew Brezshinski.
    The US is in terminal decline: Can’t win wars, can’t make anything except bombs, has no social homogeneity whatsoever, and is being invaded by 3rd world garbage. What’s not to like?

  40. Fuck ’em. America dropped the ball a long time ago. The thing to do in Afghanistan is simply to have heavily fortified resource extraction setups. Don’t try to help their women, teach their kids build hospitals or all that claptrap. We just go in and get all the resources that are useless to 7th century goat herders anyway. Of course, we’re all much to feminized to do that, so I guess Russia and China will get all the goodies there.

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