Thirteen Canadians have been detained in China since the high-profile arrest of Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou in Vancouver on Dec. 1, according to a Canadian government official.
A Global Affairs Canada spokesperson, Guillaume Bérubé, confirmed the detentions in a statement to The Globe and Mail. Until Thursday, only three Canadians – Michael Kovrig, Michael Spavor and Sarah McIver – were publicly known to have been detained in China since Canada’s arrest of Ms. Meng, Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd.’s chief financial officer. They were picked up after China promised retaliation for Ms. Meng’s arrest.
“Global Affairs Canada is aware of 13 Canadian citizens having been detained in China, excluding Hong Kong, since December 1, 2018. Of those, we can confirm that at least eight have been released,” Mr. Bérubé said in an e-mail.
But don’t you worry, assures the Globe and Mail. It’s all completely normal.
According to a government official who was not authorized to speak publicly, a total of about 200 Canadians have been detained in China for a variety of alleged infractions and continue to face ongoing legal proceedings, and many of them are out on bail or serving probation. The source said the number of detained Canadians has remained relatively stable, without a marked increase or decrease in recent years.
For comparison, the source said almost 900 Canadians are detained in the United States.
For “comparison”, mind you.
The inference being the US is worse (as a communist dictatorship?).
But, let’s compare as a percentage of Canadians in China and the US?
There are more Canadians now in Florida than in all of China.
There more Canadians in FL than in PEI.
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from the folks who brought you melamine in baby formula…
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Bares repeating.
None of this is surprising, and I would add that since the last cash infusion to the media from the Sockmonkey that neither is their lack of curiosity on this.
What is the surprise is that they haven’t yet found a way to assign blame to PMSH.
Can travel to China cheap right now. Free accommodation in a Chinese prison for the duration of your stay. Why there is no travel advisory for this is the mystery.
The US state department just issued one.
Good point. I think the pro-China bias, throughout the Justin Trudeau government, will prevent Canada from issuing a similar warning to travellers to China. Warnings like this hurt the Chinese tourism industry, but Justin Trudeau is more interested in accommodating Chinese Premier Xi’s interests.
The Liberals are not necessarily looking after China’s interests, but they are definitely looking after Power Corps’ investments in China.
Power Corp owns the Liberal Party.
This and the fact that China is colonizing half the developing world through predatory lending practices will hopefully wake the rest of the world up before it’s too late. It’s been posted on here before, they are bribing third world governments with cash for infrastructure, and when they inevitably can’t pay back the loan, China starts dictating policy. It’s happening in multiple countries in South America, Asia and Africa. It won’t be long before China owns every important resource in the world.
Predatory lending practices? Sorry but in the grown up world the borrower determines whether the details of any deal benefit their projects. If they take on loans that turn against them then it is on them. Making bad deals can threaten a countries independence but so be it. So many of these loans are made by politicians. You hope they are getting informed advice but who knows. Maybe the temptation of graft is to much.
China is a dictatorship which is regretable. That said they have pulled off an economic miracle over the past 25 years. I have been to China a number of times and the bottom line is that they are a very pragmatic people.
I totally agree with the term “predatory lending practices”. Just came back from a trip to Chile via a re-positioning cruise to South America. Second stop was Puntearenas, Costa Rica. Our guide was extolling the virtues of the Chinese government who had helped Costa Rica build a road connecting the Gulf of Mexico to Puntearenas on the Pacific Coast. This was to facilitiate container shipping. Apparently the Panamanian government is favoring cruise ships over container ships going through the Panama Canal as the cruise ships pay more money. Costa Rica “thinks” it is going to clean up on container shipping in that part of the world. However, I think this scheme will backfire with China taking over the port of Puntearenas in payment for the road. And, the Chinese have absolutely “No White Guilt”. It is the old racist comment of “No Tickee, No Laundee”.
“…..they have pulled off an economic miracle over the past 25 years. I have been to China a number of times and the bottom line is that they are a very pragmatic people.”
True. But the foundation of their economic miracle is nearing the end of its life cycle, and is weakening because of demographics and gender imbalances. Hence, the rapid economic colonization that Greg referred to.
They may well be a very pragmatic people, but their government is utterly ruthless. A country that has zero concern for its own citizens has even less for the likes of us. The Chinese play slow games of chess with the goal of world domination by winning as many matches as possible over a hundred years. The likes of turdo play with dolls and dollhouses with the goal of getting new dresses and pretty little sailboats by the end of the week.
‘Sorry but in the grown up world’. That’s my point, they are practicing their predation in the non grown up world. Countries where the leaders are easily bribed and are not capable or don’t care what happens. China builds you a bridge you can’t afford, next thing you know they own the countries mineral rights. The leader doesn’t care, he’s driving his new Mercedes over his new bridge to visit one of his concubines.
They are pragmatic about the power of their government and the futility of protest.
They are also pragmatic about individual rights and freedom as they have none.
Lets not call it predatory lets call it for what it is. Bribery.
The chicoms know what it takes to make a deal. Cash. So maybe the practice is not predatory but they know they can buy the political class (including in Canada).
The chicoms play the long game. They know a hockey game is played one shift at a time. You win each shift and you win the game (not my analogy but that of legendary U of A hockey coach Clare Drake).
B I N G O.
And the bribe-taking pols (but I repeat myself) are the true predators who betray their fellow citizens.
The Chinese are the Jews Pierre Trudeau was warned about by the pedophile Jesuits who initiated him into buggery. A parasitic tribe convinced they have a mandate from God to make debt-peons of the rest of mankind.
That’s why the House of Trudeau adores them so much.
Nothing to see here, move along.
Our “free” press.
600MM of bribes to the Presstitute Corps means they are anything but “free”…..
:o)
At first the Canadian government ignored the problem. Then, when other countries joined in on the criticism, Canada became very critical of China (withholding Canadians). Now we’re being told it happens all the time. Nothing to see here folks. Move along.
If Trudeau had done only 2 things differently – made good on his Trump commitment to spend 2% of GDP on the military and warned Beijing that Meng would be arrested if she came to Canada – things would be very different here in Canada. Both Trump and China would respect Trudeau.
One thing I’ve learned from the Trudeau government – virtue signalling is very expensive.
Well I hope this doesn’t spoil his ski vacation.
Why is Canada still giving China 50M a year in Foreign Aid. The Liberal Party has deep ties to the Chinese Communist Party going back as far as PET. Chretien and Paul Martin had very deep ties to the Communist Chinese as well as their controller PowerCorp owned by the Desmarais Family of Quebec. Powercorp has owned just about every Canadian Prime Minister since PET. And you thought your vote matters.
https://canadafreepress.com/2004/cover121504.htm
“Why is Canada still giving China 50M a year in Foreign Aid.”
It gets them to the moon, helps buy a Deep water Navy and upgrade the nuclear arsenal – along with buying up all kinds of properties across Canada…………………….
About the Globe and Mail bias. The article is written by one Michelle Zilio, of the Globe’s Partliamentary Bureau. If there is one thing that is certain for any Globe writer, writing from Ottawa, is that such a person unfailingly will write from a pro-Liberal point of view. This has been true of Globe reporting over the decades, and it is generally true for nearly all Parliamentary writers from the establishment media. Zilio’s piece here, as we can agree, is a simple parroting of Global Affairs spokespeople. The writer could not be bothered by soliciting an opinion from an independent source. Such is the poverty of establishment journalism.
What is interesting, though, is the case of the detained Michael Kovrig. He was a failed Liberal MP candidate in the last election. According to Election Cabada’s data, he has contributed about $5,000-$6,000 to the federal Liberals over the past five years. He has served as a senior bureaucrat at Global Affairs. He probably knows Justin Trudeau well. Given this background, Michael Kovrig is a Globe and Mail type of person — a Liberal elitist. And since the Chinese government trumped up charges against HIM, this contived arrest hurts Liberals like Justin Trudeau, and pro-Liberal mouthpieces like the Globe and Mail. There is irony here. The federal Liberal party is full of Chinaphiles, yet China has jailed a Chinaphile. Consequently, the Globe and Mail has devoted extra coverage to Kovrig’s arrest, since it is a senior Liberal who is in jail.
Kovrig’s arrest, then, has unnerved the Liberal Chinaphiles. Chinaphiles could be bothered by China’s jackbooted rule of law, but now they see one of them in jail. The chickens have come to roost.
David Murrell: Good post.
What was Michael Kovrig doing the China? Who’s interest was he acting in? Power Corp? We need to know.
If he was acting for a librano interest the chicoms would know that. If he is a librano operative we have another potential Adscam running here.
Well maybe he just wanted to visit and walk along the Great Wall.
Thier all “Progressives”, no loss to Canada. Unfortunately China knows this and will eventually unleash them back on the Canadian public.
(Instead of doing the decent thing and charging thier families a $1 for a bullet)
In case anyone is interested, Groper is still skiing today in B.C.
I’m not interested. However, since he’s still skiing, I guess the budget must be nicely balancing itself, right?
Bongo probably put the old band back together in Whistler. Ross Rebagliati, Mark Emery….his people ha ha
ahem… is it to uncouth to hope for another avalanche to thin out the Trudeau ranks a little more… ?!
A few months before it will be warm enough to play with the dozen or so water craft we bought for him.
To help him celebrate his first vacay of the year somebody should fire a cannon just after he starts a run on some virgin powder.
A real leader might not have let this get so far and certainly would have reacted when China started kidnapping Canadian nationals.
Not that Justin is a leader. I’m just saying.
Anyway, off-topic but far too rich to ignore:
“A character playing Prime Minister Justin Trudeau takes a drag from a joint and is suddenly transported into a fantasy world where he is dressed in traditional Indian clothing as talking cows are knocked over by a gorilla with Donald Trump’s signature hair and red tie.
The scene mocking the prime minister’s ill-fated trip to India last February was part of Radio-Canada’s annual end-of-year parody show, during which the national broadcaster satirizes the year’s newsmakers. Called “Bye bye,” the show draws millions of viewers New Year’s Eve and is considered the television event of the holiday season in Quebec.
But this year the French arm of the CBC is on the defensive after a barrage of online criticism from people claiming the sketch was racist and made a mockery of Indian culture.”
https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/radio-canada-accused-of-racism-for-parody-mocking-pms-india-trip
Because these people are too stupid to realize Trudeau mocked their culture. Loyal liberals.
I think this, like the other things one might hear or read about, is not only an example of stupidity but an attempt to shield Pierre’s boy from criticism.
Consider, however, that this sketch came from Quebec and the CBC, as well. Even they must think that he is a moron.
The Globe and Mail thinks China is not so bad because they don’t have 900 Canadians in jail? How many of those 900 are in jail for drug offenses? or assault? or rape? Their number lacks any context, it’s “just a number”.
This may help to explain how China views Canada’s “sovereignty” in this issue…
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/13497/china-sovereign-state?fbclid=IwAR2XKfSrRCN9VnYZeifZAEb83GuMA8tJhgwNuaxlO9wXoqYtK0DbXMdbk74
It’s clear that Western Canada isn’t the only area that doesn’t care what Justin Trudeau says. We all think he’s an imbecile.
How many of those “Canadians” are actually Canadians and not Negroid filth from the Caribbean or Chinese gangsters carrying a passport of convenience?
So then … sewing the maple leaf onto their backpacks … didn’t help them as expected.
And … for comparison … let me reiterate my revulsion for “statistics” as used in contemporary society. ‘Statistics’ … devoid of detail or context are rubbish. Worse than rubbish actually … it is pure EVIL to use statistics to LIE. In this case, comparing the statistics of “detained” Canadian citizens in the US vs China … devoid of the “charges” causing the detainment. Nor were the statistics given the context of just HOW MANY Canadians there are living/traveling in the USA vs China. No … the statistical comparison is a LIE. But is presented as “science” … as “mathematics” … which are “unassailable”. Pure EVIL. Satan … speaking through the mouthpiece of statistics. The Globe and Mail are Satan’s handmaidens.
I would think a lot of the 900 Canadian detainees the US has are as a result of border arrests. The number is meaningless.
The chicoms have the libranos by the short hair. I’ll bet bongo has enlisted every librano operative who holds any sway at all with the chicoms including da liddle thief to try and pull a string (offer a bribe).
Let’s get to the heart of the matter. The US (under DJT) is very concerned that China is growing economically at the expense of the USA. So it started setting roadblocks. One of them was at the feet of Huawei, a rapidly growing China technology company that lies somewhere between Apple and Samsung in the smart-phone market and a really HUGE company. The US had already labeled Huawei a “security threat” – about the only way to stop a rapidly growing high-tech company from making massive inroads into foreign markets you are trying to control. The Americans also made the call to Canada to arrest Meng, the CFO of Huawei and a princess-of-sorts within the Chinese political system. Now the Americans allege Huawei sold technology into Iran (America’s new enemy of freedom). The Canadians arrested by China in response? That is China’s way of saying “Thanks Canada. We take note that you have sided with the Americans”.
How to solve this problem? Trump does a trade deal with China. Which I predict will happen within the next 2-3 months. Then all these other things will just go away.
China needs to detain more to catch up…
this is nothing.
wait till they start harvesting organs for the lucrative transplant industry:
https://www.stoporganharvesting.org/video/
dis be one of da t’ings he ADMIRES???
the local LIEberal mp consistantly 100% so far, REFUSES to so much as *acknowledge* any requests for comment, clarification, confirmation on the TURDoo’s idiocy.
and another thing, the sound bite for the day describes the canadistan delegation headed to chirer as intending to “tread softly”.
herro mistah prime mirister, “treading softly” for GENERATIONS is what put YOU lieberals in the situation in the first place eh?