“Within a period of forty to fifty years at the end of the thirteenth and the beginning of the twelfth century almost every significant city in the eastern Mediterranean world was destroyed, many of them never to be occupied again.“
“Within a period of forty to fifty years at the end of the thirteenth and the beginning of the twelfth century almost every significant city in the eastern Mediterranean world was destroyed, many of them never to be occupied again.“
John Batchelor interviewed Eric Cline, the author of 1177 B. C., The Year Civilization Collapsed.
It’s sometimes repeated and is definitely worth listening to.
Surprised that the article never mentioned the one thing we do know, from the only survivor of that era. Every one of those civilizations was invaded by “The Sea People”. We actually have found a tablet in one that was a message requesting help from neighbouring kingdoms to deal with the invaders. The Egyptian records indicate that they were a migrant group. The Egyptian records also indicate that Ramses III defeated the Sea People. Archaeological evidence also indicates that Egypt survived unlike the less successful neighbours.
Thinking about it some more, I can not find a single example where a nation, culture, or civilization has survived a large and rapid migration influx, although my search is not exhaustive.
Civilizations have waxed and waned. It is cyclical just like almost everything else. There have been billions of words written and millions of observations and yet mankind always manages to screw up a good thing. It does say a great deal about our intellectual capacity.
“Climate change — not the anthropogenic kind, since “fossil fuels” had not yet been developed — might have caused drought and starvation.”
I wonder…do you suppose he’s trying to be a bit sarcastic?
Yes, since the “fossil fuels” are inside quotation marks.
There is nothing surprising about the French rioter or the election of Donald Trump, except that it took so fricking long.
I’ve been raging and ranting about all this sh1t since there was an internet to rage on, 1992 or so. You can’t keep going back to the cistern for more water, eventually it will be empty. But the Greenies and the Social Justice idiots have been pursuing ever-more-costly policies since the 1930s. Possibly since before WWI if you look at it a certain way.
Two world-wide wars in under 50 years and then a simmering nuclear standoff for another 60 years, still going on with China and N. Korea, 100 million civilians killed by their own governments, PLUS wars, you would think people would look at that and say “Geez, this isn’t working. Maybe we should fix this a little before it kills us all.”
That something bad is going to happen is inevitable. Everybody knows it. Everybody understands this can’t keep going this direction, into ever-greater insanity. The only question is about -when- the bad thing will happen.
I don’t see a downside to the collapse of every Western hive. What am I missing? What bad could come from Communism being wiped from the face of the earth???
It’s not nearly as simple as that.
This isn’t like the fall of Rome, where living standards for normal people actually improved after the empire lost its grip. Our globalists can, and will, ensure that the meek will only inherit the earth once there is nothing is left worth inheriting. Global warming is a hoax. Nuclear winter won’t be.
What the progressives mean by the meek ‘inheriting the earth’ is a hole in the ground.
“1177 BC: The Year Civilization Collapsed (Eric Cline, PhD)”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRcu-ysocX4
Arguably civilization has already collapsed. Sometimes its hard to see history when you are living it. I think civilization collapsed in 1914. We never recovered from that. The world is a totally different place and in another 50 years there will be no vestiges of the pre WW1 civilization left at all.
Could have been overrun by an invasions of the followers of a certain prophet who knew much about death and destruction, but little about building….
Naah!
Watched this just a few days ago.
1177 BC: The Year Civilization Collapsed (Eric Cline, PhD)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRcu-ysocX4
The professor thinks that there are a number of reasons.
Some are more compelling than others.
He does mention somewhat in jest the most popular cause among the ideologues of today, the climate change.
So what they are really saying is socialism is not new and was just as destructive then as it is now.
As a future Canada Balkanize’s and it’s economically collapses, there will be China with a few million bride-less men to hold the portion of the country that others don’t take.
Maybe the US or even Mexico can beat them to some of the better mines & oilfields.
Critical mass.
We be herd beasts and govern ourselves accordingly.
Seems that once the herd(nation) gets too big,the pain it inflicts starts to divide the herd.
Here the non contributing part of the herd is inhibiting the rest from producing.
Longer I look at it,the limiting ratio is 1/10.
Now productive and generous people can support more,but when those dependents start demanding and driving the producers crazy,any interest in carrying this load fades away.
Then the final insult,the parasites rule,making law with respect to how the productive must feed them.
Suddenly there are no producers..
Surprise.”Gee we never saw that coming.”
How many times we will repeat these cycles is unknowable, yet each time we try to limit decision making to those who produce,which produces limited sane governance, then as wealth and comfort expand we loosen the rules until we are back to the Parasite Rules.
As far as my reading of history goes I know of no successful reform of an established Kleptocracy.
Can Canada be reformed?
“I know of no successful reform of an established Kleptocracy.”
The French Revolution worked fairly well. A little hard on the aristocracy, I admit.
Too true,I was thinking nonviolent reform,as Preston Manning and the Reform Party believed was possible.
The West wants In is over,as the West is in..In debt for the ruinous spending of the East for perpetuity.
Reform proved to me that the Canadian Kleptocracy cannot be reformed using Roberts Rules of Committees.
Mark Matis,
Collapse means you no longer have your heart medication and antibiotics. Forget bananas, green peppers and oranges in Winter. Need a part for your car, stove, or tractor? Does your power stay on? Do you have heat? Do you have fuel to get to the store? Does the store have fuel to get any products to sell to you?
If it all collapses? The Answer is NO!
The #1 reason for the collapse of the cities is they ran out of fuel (wood) that was used for cooking and heat. A recent example of this is the Fortress Louisburg on Cape Breton Island. In thirty years the forest was cut back ten miles from the Fort. Same thing happened to the Incans in South America.
the calamitous 14th century , plaque was the main problem . only time on the human population graph there is a discernable drop
The siege of Sarajevo is as good as any to look at regarding this in the modern world.
By day 3, no electricity, no gas, no faucet water, no means of cooking without open fire.
Bic lighters and matches were like gold, and everyone that wasn’t robbed was simply armed more than the next neighbor was.
By the end of this, in three years, no trees were standing within 50 kilometers of the city.
It’d be swell if the powers that be would open their mind’s to the idea of a referendum on staying within Canada. Certainly less expensive than the alternative.