Deep State

So it’s true. “Senior Administration Official” Admits There’s a Deep State in the White House “Thwarting” Trump

More from Nick Gillespie;

Exactly the same sort of thing, albeit in softer form, could be said about any White House. There are always factions and cross-currents. How many members of George W. Bush’s administration, for instance, really gave a shit about their boss’ desire after re-election to enact immigration and Social Security reform? Zero. The Obama White House was riven by differences over health-care plans and foreign-policy disputes as well. Read any history of the Reagan years and you’ll find that it was amazing that anything ever got done given all the in-fighting. Bill Clinton actually had officials resign over policy differences. It’s patently absurd to elevate frictions within the Trump White House to an existential threat to the Republic. In fact, it’s the sort of overstatement that is worthy of, well, Donald Trump, who just doesn’t do nuance.

But read the whole, well balanced, thing.

51 Replies to “Deep State”

  1. Oh look, another anonymous, aka nonexistent, “source.” Nobody cares. Until a real person emerges, this is faked news.

    In their lust for power, the DeMarxists and their media minions have jettisoned ethics, consistency, context and fair play.

    IOW, nothing new, except now they’ve ditched their pride too, with their nonsensical and chrlish attacks on a distinguished jurist.

    Meanwhile their hard left continues to gain momentum within this once proud party, now slaves and slobberers to political power.

  2. President trump wants to change libel laws. Anyone here know whether Woodward could publish what he did in Canada without getting sued?

        1. Look into the history of how American libel law was gutted. It isn’t pretty. The NAACP ran an ad, attacking a segregationist. A few factual statements were in error; nothing major, but enough for a jury to find for the official. Because Amendment 7 declares “the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.” higher courts could not challenge their probably intentionally false decision. in New York Times v. Sullivan (1964), the Supreme Court had two choices: destroy our libel laws or bankrupt the NAACP. Neither was a good choice, so they made it essentially impossible to libel a government official. Later, they extended this to prevent many public figures from suing for libel.

          1. Good but they should have just thrown out all the libel laws on 1A grounds. Nonetheless a win for freedom is a win for freedom.

  3. IOW, the Deep State consists of sane people protecting us from an insane president who is so deranged that his own people are against him.

      1. canuk, the historians have identified at least 43 thousand points of interest as to the holocaust. That means hitler and crew did not work in a vacuum, and now you think a repeat of subverting democracy is a good plan. Just how stupid are you and unDork????

        1. Are you honestly kidding? Trump’s whole schtick is subverting democracy, and has been from the start. He isn’t even trying to hide it.

          1. Which party supports overturning votes by legislative bodies and the voters themselves? The party that believes that the people lack the authority to ban abortion, ban homosexual sex, or define marriage as “one man, one woman.”

          2. ” The party that believes that the people lack the authority to ban abortion, ban homosexual sex, or define marriage as “one man, one woman.””

            Yeah that’s how constitutional governance works. Tough cheese.

        2. @NME666
          It is Trump that is subverting democracy. The whistleblowers(or in your mindset, finks and snitches) are being patriotic.

    1. He was elected by people who are not against him. Get over it.

      Attributing nobility to these lawbreaking twits hiding behind anonymity and faked news shows your totalitarian streak.

      What an arrogant remark from you. Unelected people protecting the public from a president they elected? Sure Josef.

      They want power, not a return to a new Camelot of American politics. Why do you keep insisting people are a pathetic as you?

      The DeMarxists, like their socialist addled brethren everywhere, pine for their one party state.

      Progressive are Marxists pretending to be (true) liberals. Meanwhile, have you considered a career in stand up comedy.

      Oh, right, you’re not a stand up person.

      Progressivism is utterly antithetical to liberalism (again the real thing, not the Dem/Lib BS)

      1. Hugo Chavez was also elected by passionate peons, and it is a tragedy that the coup by unelected military members did not succeed. Time to take power away from the people.

        1. “Time to take power away from the people.”
          Yep, we need a Pinochet and you need a free helicopter ride.

  4. If true, some of us have suspected this right from the get go.

    Read Sharyl Attkisson’s book, “The Smear”. All of this fake news makes sense. We also might ask David Brock and his Media Matters, and the couple of dozen Media Matters subsidiaries, as well as the main financier George the Nazi helper.

    1. Her chronology of the attempts to frame Trump Russia (going back many years before his candidacy) is excellent.

  5. The Altering of the Deal
    Inciting the rabble with the good cop/bad cop routine…works every time. Great excuse for more ‘security’ and less freedom. Like putting the worship of a symbol as being greater than respect for what the symbol represents…

    Trump heroically battling the people under his command who he hired…makes great theatre. If you believe that, I have a bridge for sale….

    He keeps looking for this…

    “I would love to be able to bring back our country into a great form of unity,” Trump said. “Without a major event where people pull together, that’s hard to do. But I would like to do it without that major event because usually that major event is not a good thing.”

      1. Oh c’mon unnie, fascist? Is that the best you have? Your derangement should give even more outlandish and crazy names than that. You can be more original than that

    1. He has certainly fixed the Hamas led Palies, but good . And that is only some of the good he has done in the ME

  6. If someone is outwardly trying to destroy the presidency, I would say that that would definitely be a National Security Crisis. Is it any different than someone walking into the White House with a gun and using it. The results are the same.
    So who is the fascist, again?

    1. “Is it any different than someone walking into the White House with a gun and using it. The results are the same.”

      That’s retarded. That equates Deep Throat with a terrorist attack. Were you dropped as a child? Can you please Trump’s dick out of your mouth so you can breath some oxygen that your brain needs to work?

      1. unDork, deep throat was a useful idiot for the CIA. Nixon was a successful coup by the deep state. Why do you think Ford, who was on the Warren commission, pardoned Nixon. Can you even imagine the damage to the deep state if Nixon had been impeached. You are an uniformed, unintelligent fool.

  7. That Gillespie article is, like almost everything Gillespie, totally shit. He’s a terrible writer and that was no exception. A poorly structured whataboutism whinge coupled with some whinging about anonymity. The whataboutism kinda falls apart given that while previous White Houses have had faction and fighting, none of it comes close to this one. Woodward is not some hack and his accounts line up with everything we’re hearing about this admin. Can we just do a 25th Amendment solution already?

    1. Wrong. SecDef Mattis refutes everything Woodward says about him. Who should we believe, a man of incredible integrity, or a Washington scribbler who has a long history of making things up and selling them as first person accounts? Mattis correctly id’d Woodward as a left-wing fabulist. I would add: Who has to keep selling books to pay for his mansion in Georgetown; a swamp dweller who long ago forfeited any integrity he had , for money and power.

  8. Desperate diversion is desperate. Watching the Dems with Kavanaugh are you? Kinda like smoke and nothing but loud noises

  9. The ONLY really relevant part of this nonsensical op-ed …

    Senator John McCain put it best in his farewell letter. “All Americans should heed his words and break free of the tribalism trap, with the high aim of uniting through our shared values and love of this great nation.”

    With all due respect: What the fuck does that even mean?

    Excellent question. It sounds like something his intellectual-lightweight daughter composed … after a stimulating segment on The View … and then fawned-over by the NYT.

    And I say nonsensical op-ed … as it struggles to defend Trump, without endorsing him, while praising him, without liking him while chiding his actions, yet understanding his motives … blah, blah, blah … so.very.middle.of.the.road as a DUI driver crossing the double yellow (journalism) line. Yeah. So very rational … and balanced.

    Hint: my economic Trump BOOM fortunes don’t give a husky fkcu about some butt hurt functionary buried in the WH flow chart. Yeah … you just keep working on your moral high ground … keep chiseling a very tiny, narrow, precipice to perch upon. Meanwhile, I’ll drink to the demise of the GOPe. And the utter self-humiliation of the left.

    1. The “source” doesn’t exist: the story was made up by some left wing nut, and NYT liked the sound of it ( great editors, they are), and so published it.

    2. “my economic Trump BOOM fortunes don’t give a husky fkcu about some butt hurt functionary buried in the WH flow chart. ”

      That’s because your Trump economic boom doesn’t exist.

  10. A work of fiction proving the NYT is just a piece of junk. I’m sure Freeland is reading this article and planning her strategy on it.

  11. By Glenn Greenwald (via Breitbart):
    “The Rio de Janeiro-based journalist then eviscerated the official’s hypocritical characterization of the president as ‘anti-democratic,; while operating clandestinely within the White House as a member of an ‘unelected cabal’ that ‘imposes their own ideology with zero democratic accountability, mandate or transparency.’ ”

    https://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2018/09/05/glenn-greenwald-white-house-coward-behind-anonymous-op-ed-part-of-unelected-cabal/

    1. Democracy dies in darkness, right? Like a dark, subversive Agent undermining the very foundation of Democracy … i.e. … MY VOTE

  12. All enemies foreign and domestic. Subversively working to undermine a duly elected President makes them the very definition of a domestic enemy. Seek and destroy….

  13. Wow, talk about about whistling past the graveyard. Looks like you folks and Fox, and it looks like the GOP also, are going down with the ship. Trump and Co. are going to crash spectacularly. Yes, the economy is ripping but that still can’t excuse all the other (illegal) shit. There is a massive shift happening in the U.S. The Dems are moving to the left and they are going to take Congress. It doesn’t have to be this way if Congressional Reps had some guts. And you think Nike is stupid? I don’t think so. Yes, they are going to lose sales to a significant segment of the population but they are going to increase sales to a larger segment. The women, colored folks and millennials are coming. Watch out, old white guys!

    1. You mean all the colored folks and millennials who yearn to achieve what we old white guys achieved? Isn’t that why they’re HERE in America?

      Ohhhhhh … I see … you still “believe” the meme that ALL people ovvvvvvv culller are radical leftists? You watch too much TV.

    2. I don’t think the Dems are moving that much left. Everybody talks about the Oscar lady but a bunch of her compatriots lost. There’s a lot of Dem running that are more economically conservative than their GOP opponents.

      Oh and yeah they’re going down hard with this thing. It’s a cult. Conservatives have been flailing from rationalization to rationalization be it religious right or neoconservatism, and now all they have left is Orange Jesus. And ending they deserve.

  14. Just watched Gorka hand the ITV interviewer of Peterson fame her head on a platter over the “fake” opinion piece. She actually cut the interview short. I’d hazard a guess that she may be on the chopping block since she is unable to advance the leftist meme anymore. Great entertainment if someone can get a link and post it.

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