“COLD KILLS ONE MILLION HEADS OF CATTLE” reads the headline on Con Nuestro Peru.
A catastrophe for camels, sheep and cattle in the country.
The National Civil Defense Institute (INDECI) reported on 5 August that cold dead animals reach 912,300. At the time of writing that number could have risen to one million. Most are fine alpacas. There are also 508,000 sick animals.
This is a disaster unparalleled in our history.
Frightening is the situation created by the snowfall that hit especially the poor peasants.
Does Neil Young know about this? It’s gotta be caused by the Alberta “Tar” Sands and the very idea of a pipeline.
I am smelling a truckload of Bovine Scatology with this one! If you
take a look at Google Maps, the Northern most tip of Peru is right at
the Equator, and the Southern most tip at about -18 degrees latitude.
If the temperatures in this country are are any cooler than a Spring
day in Los Angeles, I will kiss a bare ass at first and Main at high
noon!
suppose it depends where you live in peru . high up in the Andes or in the jungle.
I heard the Andes were sometimes tall, oh yeah, Ive seen them and they are.
In July 2010, the Peruvian government declared a state of emergency in 16 of Peru’s 24 regions due to cold weather. The majority of the areas affected are in the south, where temperatures have dropped to as low as -24C. Lima recorded its lowest temperatures in 38 years at 9C, and emergency measures have been applied to several of its outlying districts. In the Amazon region temperatures dropped to as low as 9C, the fifth recorded cold spell this year. In the south, hundreds of people – nearly half of them very young children – are reported as having died of cold-related diseases such as pneumonia, and poor rural populations living at more than 3,000m above sea level being the most affected.[6]
“cold dead animals”
I dunno…he does have some pretty awesome google skills…
Pucker up, South. That’ll teach you to remember to consider the combined effects on climate of apoapsis, Earth-axis tilt and elevation above sea level.
Green kills, Greens kill.
This is what they want to do to all of us.
Unfortunately, it appears that not one of those 912,300 dead animals was named Cecil.
Hence lack of media/public interest or hype.
Lizzy May will be there for you South of 34.
Pucker up and enjoy.
Mount Kilimanjaro is at 3 degrees S. The nighttime temperatures there can easily drop to -30 degrees. In fact, the summit ecological zone of the mountain is called the “Arctic zone”.
Facts are your friend. Ideology isn’t.
The Altiplano of Peru in wintertime can be an iffy proposition for both animals and people
if weather conditions “get stuck” and become a steady subfreezing cold combined with excessive
snowfalls. What contributes to the misery of many people there even more during mild winters
with few or no dips into subfreezing temperatures is the fact their teeth are often prone to
cavities which makes breathing colder air very painful.
I know full well that the Southern hemisphere experiences Winter while
we are sweating our asses off in Southern California. Astronomy was my
particular passion in my Yout. My point was that Peru is situated at a
latitude that would make it warmer than more Southern latitudes. That
was my initial thought.
PS I also checked real time temperatures in Peru and found that even in
their Southernmost cities, 60 degrees F is about the average. It is a
LOT colder in Southern Chili, yet you do not see any stories about frozen
cows, and they have a huge cowboy culture there.
I am still checking temperatures in Peru, yet I could not find a single
instance of freezing temperatures after checking dozens of cities on
the map.
It’s the altitude.
checking the cities . Im just thinking out loud here , but most cattle don’t live in cities anymore. they moved out when too many people arrived.
change your name from south of 34 to south of 34 but less than 5000 ft .
Pucker-up cowboy. Some pretty high elevations in Peru. Cuzco and Juliaca, for example.
Those astronomy guys aren’t the sharpest knives in the drawer.
http://www.juliaca.climatemps.com/temperatures.php
I just hope the locals in Peru appreciate our sacrifices in taxing carbon to insure there is no temperature increase. They may not understand, but that’s their problem. Im sure the IPCC can explain why global warming means more can expect to freeze to death and the west’s determination to tax the air we breathe. Their witch doctors can still read chicken entrails and decipher it for them. Perhaps our witch doctors from the UN and theirs can have a side bar meeting in Paris at the upcoming climate change summit meeting. It all sounds complicated but with the advent of computer manipulation and the ability to tax nothing, the only thing they don’t want to ask is why the “experts” have been wrong for over 20 years. Just take the “expert” witch doctors at their word. Millions do. How do you say “follow the money” in Spanish ? They don’t want to question that either. I just hope they understand that freezing to death is a small price to pay in avoiding that dreaded 1 degree temperature rise over the next hundred years that our witch doctors predict. I know it sounds complicated but backward countries can not be expected to understand. Only UN witch doctors have the ability to brainwash otherwise intelligent people. After all…this is 2015 and our witch doctors are highly educated.
http://www.peruviantimes.com/28/peru-declares-state-of-emergency-in-puno-as-temperatures-drop/20080/
And some may remember that Peru’s neighbors have already experienced the joy of global warming.
http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/26/global-warming-chile-hit-with-worst-cold-spell-in-80-years/
I already checked Cusco, and it is mostly cloudy and 54 degrees F. Juliaca
is partly cloudy and 59 degrees F. I am not seeing any evidence of freezing
weather anywhere in the country.
Also, Rockwood you should stop and ask yourself why the average Winter in
Montana or Wyoming does not result in deaths of hundreds of thousands of
cows?
All I am saying is that when I first saw the story, my BS detector went off.
The more I dig into it, the more sure I became that was the source of the
smell I experienced in reading the story. There are only a handful of
sites carrying this story, mostly crackpot end times and environmental
group sites. Fox2 News is the only media source covering this story.
This would be MAJOR news that one would expect to be carried by more than
1 local media outlet and 2 kook sites!
PS Juliaca Puno was one of the cities I checked first and I could walk around
in a T-shirt as the current temperature is 57 degrees.
PPS I am about 6 pages in and found an earlier story that read: “Pasco: more
than 400 dead animals from low temperatures.” There is your massive animal
die off!
One more item: These stories seem to come mostly from apocalyptic end times
web sites. Discounting them, you end up with one local news affiliate and one
site ran by some new ice age nutjobs.
Google “Peru cold temperatures”
1) Peru: Lethal Cold Wave Kills 15 Children
teleSUR English-Jul 15, 2015
Temperatures in the region of Puno have decreased of 20 degrees under … The cold wave hitting Peru’s southern Andes has killed 15 children …
2) 170000 alpacas die during brutal winter weather in Peru
Fusion-Jul 20, 2015
Officials in Peru are scrambling to help farmers of one of the country’s most emblematic animals, after unusually cold weather killed more than …
3) Peru continues aid to cold-affected regions
Peru this Week-Jul 17, 2015
The Ministry of Women and Vulnerable Populations (MIMP) said shelter kits are still being sent to these regions where the cold temperatures …
4) Lima registers coldest winter day
Peru this Week-Aug 6, 2015
Cold winter temperatures mean it’s time to warm up with some hot cocoa … In the Peruvian highlands on the other hand, temperatures could …
That’s just from this year. Other years have been as cold, with as many problems.
As you don’t seem to be arguing that the numbers are BS, but the temps, you seem to be projecting, not learning…
I am still not seeing A SINGLE legitimate confirmed news story about this
so-called event. I am now 10 pages in and nothing except one story
(Probably the original one) about “Hundreds” of animals dead.
Two more things; Alpacas are fur bearing animals who are quite at home
at high altitudes and very low temperatures. One Site I visited said
they can stand -30 degree C or lower temperatures.
Of all of the pages I have visited, most of them carried stories up the
Wazoo about fish die offs, marine mammal die offs, turtles, birds, and
just about every other species you can imagine. And all of these are
occurring mostly in recent years and mostly in Peru. It seems that
according to these apocalyptic types, every animal would be better off
avoiding Peru!
This smells like a hoax.
Report from 2012
Over the past three years, bitter cold spells and frosts have made life in El Higueron – and throughout most of the Peruvian Andes – increasingly difficult. As paradoxical as it seems, scientists suspect global warming is to blame.
In 2008 and 2009, frigid temperatures descended on Peru in March and April, almost three months before the start of the Southern Hemisphere winter. The unseasonable cold not only killed livestock but contributed to the deaths of almost 250 children across the country, according to news reports at the time.
The winter of 2010 proved even worse. After temperatures plunged to 46-year lows, the government declared a state of emergency in 16 of the county’s 24 regions. In some areas, temperatures reached 24 degrees Celsius below zero, or 13 degrees below zero Fahrenheit. More than 400 people died, most of them children.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/andes-extreme-cold-extracts-bitter-toll/
I just typed in the keywords you suggested. Several of the posts were
from 2010 or 2013. The ones mentioning the dead children made no
mention whatsoever of any kind of cattle or Alpaca die off. About
the only site I found with the 170,000 Alpaca story was a nut-job
site called Iceagenow.
Just fake the temp data and all the unicorns will come back to life, silly deniers.
I think south of 34’s BS meter may be right. A up to date scan of Peru’s news doesn’t show anything.
http://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/World+News/Latin+America/South+America/Peru
I climbed in the Andes in northern Peru many years ago. The town of Huaraz at about 10,000 feet was very temperate during the day and quite cool at night. Part of the problem in that area is that it is very easy to get to high altitude without even trying, as I found out the hard way while trekking — slept at 15,000 feet the first night without realizing it and came down fast the next morning since we were all showing signs of altitude sickness. The people living in that area could certainly experience very cold temperatures if the weather turned nasty on them but depending on where they were living, they may not be well prepared for it since the temperatures are usually quite predictable and not the deep freezing weather described. That being said, I agree that the llamas and alpacas should certainly be able to handle it, unless someone had recently sheared them.
It’s good you’re digging and I can’t fault you for being skeptical. Many of the people affected are unlikely to have appropriate clothing. Plus if it’s a village it won’t appear on too many “journalist’s” radar – unless they were dying of heat exhaustion, then it would be a serious story.
Average minimum temperatures for Jun-Jul in Juliaca are 19-22 deg F, well below freezing…
I was in Zacatecas a few years ago. Night time temperatures were very cold – just below freezing. Didn’t bother me too much coming from Canada but some of the Mexicans were having a tough time and couldn’t stay outside to work. Additional problem was the high relative daytime temperature (28 deg C one day) – very hot and troubling for me having traveled from winter weather and now working outside in the sun, a relief for the Mexicans (not local to Zacatecas) who were used to +38 day, +22 night (C).
Imagine being a child without proper clothes and no heated house unlike those in Wyoming or Montana.
http://www.peruviantimes.com/28/peru-declares-state-of-emergency-in-puno-as-temperatures-drop/20080/
Date is AUG-11-2015
Funny. Date changed to AUG-28-2013 under the headline. Looks like they reposted a story from 2 years ago. Your skepticism is paying off South of 34.
Perhaps taking a look at the met/hydro service website in Peru may shed some light. There was a weather warning for strong winds and low temperatures, issued on the 5th of August.
http://www.senamhi.gob.pe/?p=0140&tip_alert=022
Rough translation…”SENAMHI reports that from 8 to 10 August windy about 3800 meters from the southern highlands will be presented. The winds reach their maximum intensity on August 9, with speeds above 45 km / h in about 4500 locations in Moquegua, Tacna and Puno.
Also, the drop in night temperatures on 9, 10 and 11 August in much of the southern highlands, registering to -18 ° C in locations above 4400 meters is expected.”
The above info notwithstanding, the “headline from Con Nuestro Peru”, doesn’t really pass the sniff test.
El Comercio, Peru. July 10, 2015 (Translated through Google Translate)
(According to Wikipedia, El Comercio has an average circulation of 100,000 copies daily. It was founded in 1839, which makes it the second oldest existing newspaper and the largest in the country and one of the oldest Spanish)
Headline: “Emergency declared in three provinces of Puno
Regional Council took decision due to the devastation caused by the low temperatures and snow in the area
The Regional Council of Puno emergency declared in the province of Sandia Carabaya, San Antonio de Putina because of the consequences generated by low temperatures, snow and ice. Although, under the agreement, the extent governed by 10 days the deadline could be extended if required.
On Thursday, the regional directorates of Transport and Communications, Agriculture, Health, Education, municipalities and other institutions detailed the damage caused by the drop in temperature in Puno.
The meeting was informed that to date more than 171 850 alpacas died from the snow and ice. In response, the regional government of Puno ordered the purchase of 15,000 bales of oats to feed the animals kept alive despite the bad weather.
The regional governor of Puno, Juan Luque Mamani, said that compared with previous years, this year is heaviest snowfall.
The authority said the regional government will attend an initial budget of S /. All 200,000 residents of the rural area, but required the Indeci ask the Presidency of the Council of Ministers the declaration of emergency in the affected provinces.”
ReliefWeb also has this to say….
“Since May 2015 to date, a meteorological phenomenon causing low temperatures, heavy snowfall and frost has affected the Andean regions located above 3,500 metres above sea level; temperatures have dropped below 0°C, and there have been snowstorms and hail. In some places, temperatures reached -15° C, severely affecting the lives and health of the population, as well as basic services, livelihoods (livestock and agriculture) and the infrastructure of various structures, including schools.
An initial declaration of a 45-day state of emergency on 19 July 2015, for the districts and provinces in the departments of Apurímac, Ayacucho, Arequipa, Cusco, Huancavelica, Lima, Moquegua, Pasco, Puno and Tacna was made in response to the cold wave sweeping through Peru. On 5 August, the government escalated its original declaration of a state of emergency nationwide. On 6 August 2015, weather forecasts predicted that the night-time low temperature on 9 August will be -18 Celsius in areas located 4,400 metres above sea level.
Approximately 165,710 people are affected and 100 are homeless due to this cold front in the departments of Apurimac, Ayacucho, Cusco, Huancavelica, Junín, Pasco, Puno and Tacna. In addition, 529 homes are damaged, 11 have collapsed and 11 have been rendered uninhabitable. Frost has affected the health of the population including livestock.
According to the National Civil Defence Institute, 65,834 animals are reported dead and 938,813 animals have been affected. In terms of agriculture, 1,162 hectares of crops have been lost, and 1,894 hectares have suffered damages.”
August 8, 2015
“The International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies (IFRC) has approved Disaster Relief Emergency Fund (DREF) for the operation of Peruvian Red Cross in response to the cold wave in the Andean region. These funds are intended to support 620 affected families in the districts Ananea, Quilcapunko, Sina and Putina, in the province of San Antonio de Putina.”
I dunno? Out here in cattle country we get some some pretty nasty cold weather. Cows can withstand some mighty cold days. Feed is #1, not cold. They have to have be fed. So if cattle are dying, why? If it’s -20 or 30c what kinda grasses are there to forage on? Do they feed like we do in Canada/Montana/Wyoming every winter?
This sounds like a story that came out of Russia a coupla years back. Apparently they had a pack of wolves – 400 in number prowling around some village. 400? Huh? They would have to kill a herd of cattle every nite just to maintain themselves. On it’s face this stuff stretches credibility.
Sounds like Barbara Streisand to me as Rush would say….
Here’s a list of dead animals over the last few years. Scroll down to see the list.
http://www.end-times-prophecy.org/animal-deaths-birds-fish-end-times.html
8th August 2015 – Dozens of blue herons found dead at oilsands site in Alberta, Canada. Link
8th August 2015 – Thousands of dead fish wash up on beaches in the Gulf of Morrosquillo, Colombia. Link
8th August 2015 – 10,000 kgs of fish have suddenly died in Nanjing, China. Link
7th August 2015 – Hundreds of fish die in a pond in Culemborg, Netherlands. Link
6th August 2015 – 5,400 rainbow trout dead ‘due to heat’ in a hatchery in Washington, America. Link
5th August 2015 – 81,000 cattle dead due to flooding in Gujarat, India. Link
5th August 2015 – 1,000 lbs of fish have died in Lake Elsinore, California, America. Link
4th August 2015 – Dozens of sea birds washing up dead along beaches in Homer, Alaska, America. Link
4th August 2015 – 6 Whales dead after 16 became stranded in Cape Breton, Canada. Link
4th August 2015 – 26 Dolphins have washed up dead this year along the coast of Bulgaria. Link
I notice the list doesn’t include the untold thousands of birds and bats that are chopped up in wind turbines or end up as “streamers” when they fly over solar farms.
True, those don’t make the news as they are daily events…
could some one please just fly down to Peru with a thermometer and just bloody read the temperature!!!!
@NME666 and South of 34:
You can get a good idea of current temperatures here:
http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/overlay=temp/orthographic=304.20,-43.18,988
Hold right mouse key down to spin the globe. Use mouse wheel to zoom in/out. Once stabilized, click right mouse key at any position for lat/long, wind speed, temp.
Pacific coastal areas above 40 degrees south are not that cold but there is widespread cold weather in the mountains and in the south.
I don’t know if the story is accurate or not.
Yes, but your original skepticism wasn’t about the number of deaths (which I can agree seem exaggerated), but with:
“if the temperatures in this country are are any cooler than a Spring day in Los Angeles”
So, I didn’t feel the need to prove anything other than the fact that you are an idiot. The date of our original idiocy is probably in the decades past.
It gets cold in Peru. Live with it.
Current temperatures are not the issue. The issue is the temperatures since May. It’s kind of like looking at the weather yesterday when the hail storm went through weeks ago.
Cold problems in Bolivia..seems legit.
http://www.laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=2292793&CategoryId=14919
“Cows can withstand some mighty cold days. Feed is #1, not cold. They have to have be fed.
So if cattle are dying, why?”
Yep, I live in cattle country too and that about sizes it up.
We get some wicked temperature swings here and we don’t get die offs like the story describes.
I live in Hailstone Alley and I’ve seen more tornados in the last 2 months than I’ve seen all my life, but the cattle are just fine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dQgjrrEeHA
Don’t know if many are keeping herds of Criollo/Pineywoods in Montana & Wyoming, which I believe are the predominately breed in Peru. “Pineywoods are noted for their ability to survive and reproduce under the often-harsh conditions of the South, withstanding high temperatures and high humidity”; I would guess this may indicate they aren’t adapted well for cold conditions. I doubt if the cattle that seemed the preferred breed in Thailand when I visited the country could handle much more than a harsh frost.
Don’t know if many are keeping herds of Criollo/Pineywoods in Montana & Wyoming, which I believe are the predominately breed in Peru.
“Pineywoods are noted for their ability to survive and reproduce under the often-harsh conditions of the South, withstanding high temperatures and high humidity”; I would guess this may indicate they aren’t well adapted for cold.
I doubt if the cattle that seemed the preferred breed in Thailand when I visited the country could handle much more than a harsh frost.
@Joey: Well Joey, the article certainly does imply that the “crisis” is ongoing (August 8, your reference). And considering that August is the middle of winter in the southern hemisphere, and considering that winter is cold, I think it’s pretty relevant to look at current temperatures. Or maybe you thought a heat wave had suddenly passed through the area making the grass green again, you know, like after a hail storm passes through Canada during the summer?
Second try…first was blocked??
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La Republica newspaper has posted several articles in the past few weeks regarding unusual cold and animals deaths. Pretty easy to find current references.
One million deaths might be a stretch. However, conditions seem most unusual from newspaper articles. There have been many animal deaths. It has been very cold. Regions are isolated and high elevation. (4,000+ meters is hardly LA at sea level.)
Check some Peru newspapers here.
http://www.w3newspapers.com/peru/
Click a newspaper (La Republica) and search “alpaca muerto”
Then use Google translate.
We aren’t talking about current temperatures. We are talking about something that took place some time ago and it’s effects are still being felt now. Like hearing about Hurricane Katrina long after it took place. The weather forecast in New Orleans for today has no bearing on the actual weather on August 29, 2005.
Weather changes! Weird, eh?
@Joey: Did you or did you not post the following info?
“SINCE MAY 2015 TO DATE, a meteorological phenomenon causing low temperatures, heavy snowfall and frost has affected the Andean regions located above 3,500 metres above sea level; temperatures have dropped below 0°C, and there have been snowstorms and hail. In some places, temperatures reached -15° C, severely affecting the lives and health of the population, as well as basic services, livelihoods (livestock and agriculture) and the infrastructure of various structures, including schools.
An initial declaration of a 45-day state of emergency on 19 July 2015, for the districts and provinces in the departments of Apurímac, Ayacucho, Arequipa, Cusco, Huancavelica, Lima, Moquegua, Pasco, Puno and Tacna was made in response to the cold wave sweeping through Peru. ON 5 AUGUST, the government escalated its original declaration of a state of emergency nationwide.
ON 6 AUGUST 2015, weather forecasts predicted that the night-time low temperature ON 9 AUGUST will be -18 Celsius in areas located 4,400 metres above sea level.”
First, let me state that I never said that it does not get cold at high
elevations in Peru. My whole point was that something did not make
sense with the story. Having spent a great deal of yesterday
afternoon skimming hundreds of web sites, I found exactly ONE
legitimate news source running this story. I also discovered
that Alpaca can survive temperatures as low as -30 C. Even sheep
and cattle have high tolerances for cold weather.
Now for the one thing that dawned on me late last night:
I would think that by 10 pages in, a Google search should have returned
at least one local source. (ie local to Peru) So, the Lima Post or
the Cusco Times (Both made up) should have had enough hits to put
it on the top page.