Thomas Mulcair on the Trudeau Liberals’ slogan “Getting ready to lead”:
“Yeah, right. Getting ready for what? I’m sorry, prime minister just isn’t an entry-level job.”
No, but celebrity is an entry-level job, and celebrity culture is slowly eclipsing common-sense culture, including in politics. That’s the only reason we’re facing the spectre of Prime Minister Zoolander.
Any bets on what percentage of the under-50 women’s vote he’ll get in the next election?
I’ll say 65.
” I’m sorry, prime minister just isn’t an entry-level job.” Well why can’t it be. It seems President is.
Do you mean he will get 65% of the under-50 women to vote for him or 65% of the votes he gets will be under-50 women?
Justin Trudeau as leader of the Liberal Party, with a fair shot at winning the next General Election, does much to justify
the Muslim practice in regard to women.
celebrity culture is slowly eclipsing common-sense culture, including in politics.
In most cities celeb culture is dominant, where it’s especially attractive to urban lieberals.
Yes,I agree,Trudeau will probably get 65% of the vote of women under 50, 40 % of the women over 50, and 1% of the old men over forty vote.
Fortunately, most of the women’s ballots will be spoiled by the drool.
That he’ll get 65 percent of under-50 women to vote for him.
My above comment was a response to John Galt’s question at 11:59.
and when I run – my heels kinda kick out to the side – know what I mean?
That’s Justin’s Blue Steel look, he must have been saving for the campaign
One more reason why Conservatives need to get to work–and crush Justin!
“Prime Minister Zoolander”
Someone owes me a new laptop and a fresh cup of coffee.
What do you suggest?
Attack ads are counterproductive and only appeal to the party faithful.
Elections are decided by that vast majority of middle-of-the-road voters, who may or may not decide to vote at all.
The answer is getting that group to vote conservative because they like what the conservatives do in the next year and what they promise to do with another mandate.
What do you think the chances are the Trudeau or Mulcair would have sold us out to China?
http://www.vancouverobserver.com/news/harper-oks-potentially-unconstitutional-china-canada-fipa-deal-coming-force-october-1
Only liberals suggest that attack ads don’t work. Thankfully sensible people at CPC headquarters know not to take campaign advice from the opposition and that includes media blathermouths.
My three daughters are in their 20s. They think he’s ridiculous, won’t vote for him, and say that most of their friends feel the same. Fingers crossed that they represent a larger proportion of that demographic than we are led to believe.
In the event that the brain dead spawn of PET and Maggie does win, we (Western Canada)need to be prepared to immediately secede. No BS.
A good tactic for conservatives is to ignore JT and the lieberals as one ignores an attention seeking child. Don’t respond to things he says or does, and certainly don’t validate his importance by attacking him.
It would be very effective for the CPC to establish an issues based dialog with the NDP. The NDP is no real threat, and being nice to them will get votes from the undecided middle and likely even pull some votes from the NDP for being reasonable and rational. If JT and the LP try to butt into the dialog, ignore them, don’t attack, be nice with inane platitudes. If the CPC takes the mature, rational, level-headed, conservative approach, while silently goading JT by ignoring him, then JT will rise to the bait and make a fool of himself.
wrong.. I’ve never been a lieberal. Foolish assumptions identify fools.
That is some serious contempt for women coming through.
There are just as many idiot young men who would vote for Pretty Vacant, if they could be bothered to turn out to vote.
Me I figure you could break it down to makers and takers.
The free lunch crew always vote for pretty promises, but the tax base is shrinking and the free lunch is stale.
Free healthcare, remember, as long as you do not mind a 40% tax rate and a wait for service that could easily be mistaken for denial of said service.
The Lieberal party of Canada is dead, the left over zombies are hoping a pretty boy will bring them back to the trough.
Seriously, for a party seeking the youth vote, they have the most ancient caucus, instead of “Brains brains” its “Trough trough”.
Sure to work if the urban idiots of Canada unit behind them.
Until the Leiberals have some ideas that are not as dated as the Trudeau name they will continue to shrink.
Or maybe we are that thick, in which case Canada will shrink.
The party of diminishing returns.. Vote Lier Party.
Old joke ;What do you call liberals with no bals?
Attack adds work great, if they are true.
Just-In has written so many for the Conservative campaign team, that they are staggered by their choices.
Free healthcare, remember, as long as you do not mind a 40% tax rate and a wait for service that could easily be mistaken for denial of said service.
I pay nowhere near that tax rate, and have never experienced significant wait for excellent medical care. I don’t doubt that your comment is valid for where you live and the lifestyle you pursue, however it’s by no means universally Canadian.
You’re right that it breaks down to makers and takers.
A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations has been 200 years.
Ads that attack and denigrate the person don’t work to sway the uncommitted voters that determine the outcome of elections. Often they ‘backfire’ and erode respect and credibility.
Ads that critically refute bad policy and show a better way, are effective.
I think it was Ezra who coined the moniker. When I saw the 2002 Macleans cover photo – thanks to BC Blue – it just affirmed the comparison.
Actually I think it is the older women who remember Trudeau père who are most gaga over his son.
It seems that women and young people are starting to disapprove of Obama. Only took six years.
Whatever the flipping media and the desperate LPC think we have to hope the majority of Canadians are smarter than to hand the country over to a vacuous twit which he proves every time he opens his mouth.
It can’t be said enough – Justin Trudeau (and POTUS Obama for that matter)is not a real person – they are a media ceated marketing entity mercilessly mongered to a demographic who believe in magic.
Both are stumbling uninspired puppets who are being worked by some of the darkest forces in the oligarchy. The puppet strings, defects and synthetic appearance are all obfuscated by media image manufacturing – and unfulfilled women buy into this fantasy like they do the gossip rags at the local supermarket check out shelves – the media is absolutely enraptured at its success in marketing zeros to a zero sum demograhic.
Indeed, Nicola Timmerman. Here in the comfortable, dependent Maritimes, urban women in their 60s — those who were hippie chicks at Mount Allison or wish they had been — love him like a favorite son or grandson.
And John Galt makes a good point about “attack ads”. First, we must understand that any ad that draws an unfavourable comparison between the Conservatives and their opponents, even on strictly policy issues, will be described unfailingly by the media as an “attack ad”. At the same time, parties must walk a fine line when pointing out the personal shortcomings of their opponents. Such ads should not be frivolous and obviously unfair, such as those that seemed to ridicule Prime Minister Chretien’s facial deformity, nor should they project arrogance and contempt, nor be hair-on-fire ludicrous, such as the Liberals “soldiers, with guns, in our streets” campaign. Finally, it should go without saying that the media will hold only the CPC to such standards.
Tories need to be happy warriors, outlining this government’s accomplishments, laying out plans to reduce the burdens, both in terms of taxation and over-regulation, of government on the people, and highlighting the dangers of embracing the destructive policies of the NDP or the vacuous musings of the Liberals. In short, something like Ezra Levant without the snark.
I think you may be stereotyping the women’s vote here. I also know young women who think Trudeau is pretty shallow. Having said that, a lot of women support the Liberals because of the traditional feel-good Liberal persona — they always put forward nice sounding policies re supporting health care, education, caring for the environment, “We’re going to end divisiveness” etc. — regardless of what they actually do once they are in power. I don’t think women are quite so stupid as is being suggested here (seems we have a number of chauvanist posters), but they are less cynical than men in their political thinking, and perhaps somewhat more susceptible to nice sounding rhetoric. Justin may get some votes because of his movie-star good looks — he will also lose some votes (even among women) for the very same reason.
Attack ads work, ask Premier Orville and Christy Clark. Going soft and “principled” gives you the Dix and Hudak result, LOSING.
Its usually the left that moans and groans about attack ads, but they use them just the same.
Just stop the juvenile style ads, make them professional. Theres just too much material with Zoolander to ignore!
What “movie-star good looks” are you talking about,LindaL?
Rush Limbaugh will sometimes play selections from Ronaldus Magnus. Almost everything he said about Jimmy Carter sounds like an attack add. If they are true, they can work.
For movie star good looks, Lassie comes to mind.
The younger women I have talked to say that they find Junior “creepy” and would never vote for him. Those who are a little older find him an empty suit and likewise wouldn’t vote for him. The only real question I have is who is going to believe a series of mid-summer poll results. Nobody is paying attention to politics and the media is in full silly season
Gotta hand it to Mulcair. “I’m sorry, Prime Minister just isn’t an entry level job”, great line.
It is indeed a great line. However, it was undoubtedly one of Mulcair’s backroom boys who came up with it. I just don’t think that Mulcair is capable of anything this clever.
If this boy child becomes PM. Its the end of the Dominion.
He will do more than Obama has done to the US to separate this nation into waring factions, while stealing more power with of course the liberal staple tax money to steal for themselves & family.
This time the West will not be raped for a degenerate Eastern elite.
I hear he’s going to demo “Blue Steel” on election night…
JT: “In all my years of non-governing, non-leading, no real job and a silver spoon in my mouth, I’ve never seen anyone like Stephen Harper who doesn’t “understand” Ontario:”
http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2014/09/12/stephen_harper_government_doesnt_understand_ontario_justin_trudeau_says.html
Yawn – and Mulcair wants to increase the federal minimum wage to $15 and, of course, bring in a national day care program. Why isn’t Stephen Harper worried? Most likely because as we get closer to an election, the Grits and NDP are less popular, because we find out what their (paucity of) platform really is. Or is the “American style attack ads” or the “right wing media?”
something like Ezra Levant without the snark.
well said,
kinda reminds you of when Joe-Who walked into the first cabinet meeting they were unsure to standup or send him out for coffee.
and if turdough does win I will be among the millions working to separate western Canada from the other idiots!
LindaL
one minute you point out the stupidity of many women’s dicission make skills and then you try and defend them by say they are not that they are not “quite so stupid”, yes they are, and you pointed that out LOL
I believe Allison Redford used to article under Ole Joe and it wouldn’t surprise me to hear that she sent him out for coffee!
I agree with you that attack ads would be a bit counterproductive at the moment. Dion and Ignatieff were (relatively) unknown at the outset – one (Dion) hopped through the middle in a fluke nomination, and the other was an outsider by virtue of having lived in America for so long – so the pre-branding worked, but that same tactic isn’t possible with Justin Trudeau.
That self-loving cover-magazine pose – the “Zoolander” link — with the caption “When I run” is from *12 years* ago. You can’t really rebrand someone who’s already become become their own brand. The guy is a photogenic celebrity, a blank page with a famous family name, and the usual suspects in the media love him.
The good thing for the Conservatives is that when he isn’t speaking in clichés or anodyne retail-politics progressive platitudes delivered with a doleful, sincere gaze – which is pretty much all the time – he’s showing himself to be kinda dumb and not of prime ministerial calibre. Canadians will figure that out over the next year, or they won’t.
For their part the Conservatives should continue to govern well, and then run a great campaign that’s a bit lighter on the attack ads than in the last two campaigns. Better to do an end-run around him and just stand rock-solid in point of comparison, and let Canadians gradually sort it out like they did a few Christmases ago.
Your observations have certain value.
One here thinks that you are on to something that make sense.
There are times though when a position or a stupid statement must be pointed out, as you say inane platitudes would suffice. In that case however, the dilemma is that those that are interested understand and those that are not don’t have a clue one way or another. In the second case there is a danger of misinterpretation, nevertheless the chance has to be taken.
As you say, you have to attract the attention of sensible people.
Was talking to the current MP that is running in a new riding for nomination, trying to explain that the conservatives have to have a better argument, statesmen like, not a chatter. Not a long winding explanation for everything.
You no doubt know that mass media, the free propaganda machine of the socialists, don’t like that they can’t edit the relatively short answers of Harper, there is no room for editing, so they dump on him.
The problem is there are these professional strategerists (sic, for they are not strategist) that make living on coming up with real bullshit. The thing is that they are paid and must justify their existence.
Those that run with it don’t question. The idea is that the strategerists do the strategery and the executors do the executing and never shall their paths cross.
The problem is there are these professional strategerists (sic, for they are not strategist) that make living on coming up with real bullshit. The thing is that they are paid and must justify their existence.
Those that run with it don’t question. The idea is that the strategerists do the strategery and the executors do the executing and never shall their paths cross.
If they listen to their high priced strategists they’ll loose their majority government, and possibly the whole ball of wax.
JT is not Dion, Ignatieff, Martin or even Chretien, and those old tactics will fail in the world of social media and the lemming-like reaction the twits can mobilize very quickly. JT is like Mr. O, a very electable celebrity, backed by an old-guard leftist team of handlers. It would be foolish to underestimate them because of JT’s obvious incompetence.
“Yeah, right. Getting ready for what? I’m sorry, prime minister just isn’t an entry-level job.”
Oh? What exactly are the legal requirements to be eligible to become prime minister?
Well JJM to the south of us they tried to make President an entry level position and look how it worked for them.
Or you could just rethink your space time continuum.
Yeah, I’m no sooth-sayer, and make no sweeping predictions, but the omens are interesting to say the least.
1) the LIBRANOs want to form a government or at the very least be the official opposition…..not a rump party…..Mulcair and the Dippers are in the way.
2) Angry Tom and the dippers desperately need/want to hold their official opposition status.
3) the media party has a dilemma: how to support JT et al without attacking the Dippers…..as well as the Tories
4) Angry Tom is already shooting from the hip at the shiny pony…will this, can this, pass without a storm of protest from the likes of Galt and the media party….
5) Is it possible for JT et al to succeed in a war on two fronts?
5) The core of the media party is the tax funded CBC….If the CBC makes an enemy of Angry Tom too, the CBC is history.
Associating Galt with the media party only shows how clueless you are.