No climate forecast, whether short-, medium-, or long-term, produced by government weather agencies has been correct. Environment Canada’s (EC) are the worst: less accurate, they admit, than flipping a coin. Nevertheless, government climate forecasts are the basis of all of Canada’s national energy and environment policies.
What would @JustinTrudeau do to fix Harper's failed #climate models? #cdnpoli http://t.co/hzn5Hs4mWV
— Katewerk (@katewerk) April 6, 2014
And this is a surprise because? Anybody with at least two brain cells to rub together and who can look out a window and do a little comparison knows this. Oh wait.If it isn’t on twit or social(ist) media or some leftard didn’t tell them it is so,then to the LIVs and LIPs it does not exist. Man. It must be great to live such a simple(emphasis on the simple)life as the LIV/LIP leftard useful idjit does.
What would @JustinTrudeau do to fix Harper’s failed #climate models?
I think the young Dauphin would combine his Ministry of Environmental Justice with his Ministry of Social Justice, to ensure that (some kind of meaningless feelgood phrase).
Order of Canada stuff. Right now!
Well first Justine would have to find the root cause of whatever the problem is at EC. And after saying they have to find the root dause nothing will happen. After saying that they need to find this root cause Justine’s job will be finished since he never follows up with anything he says. He will then go back to addressing the root causes of looking younger than he actually is by getting his roots dyed by his personal colourist, get his eyebrows tinted, and his bikini line waxed. And then he will find a sneaky way to have the tax payer cover the costs of his root job while he drives home in his million dollar car.
So when is a certain BC MLA going to come clean in his involvement in all this over the years? All on the taxpayer dime. Now that he he has the perfect forum to do so. Or will he, and his backers, continue to hide behind his SLAPP?
Can’t mention names or I, a mere peasant who dares ask questions, might get sued by a politician… pushing his agenda.
Somebody’s head really needs to roll after the totally failed forecast for winter 2013/2014.
People have been bled dry financially by the cost of home heating (oil and in particular propane) by the reduced inventory (supply) and the prolonged cold (demand).
There is suppose to be a report by the NEB at the end of April and it better address the failure of EC to get it RIGHT.
Related:
Wasn’t it “failed climate models” (bad science) that prompted Mcguinty to cancel the Ontario gas plants? For no other reason than to sooth the enviro zombies, and gain a few votes.
Look how well that turned out.
Australia to host next G20 session. Tells all members that climate change is NOT on the agenda…
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/policy/eu-unhappy-climate-change-is-off-g20-agenda/story-e6frg6xf-1226873127864
SWEET!!!
The computer models are so out of wack that they cannot even compete with a pig’s spleen. The farmers almanack is still the best source around. How are we to trust the model predictions for the next fifty years when thyey can’t even get yesterday’s forecast right.
Q. Why did God create economists?
A. To make weather forecasters look good.
3 items in Tim’s article that stand out
1)that there is NO scientific theory for climate (they don’t know enough)
2) they run 5 projections and then “blend” them, and do the same with those from various countries models. This is guess work and should only be used to further Knowledge, and not to direct gov’t policy
3) the fool that preached climate BS until he read the “bible” and realized it was all BS. You would think a perffesser/teacher would do due diligence before quacking off.
We should all be thankful these morons, fraudsters and scammers are climate scientists and not physicians.
All they can do now is squander staggering amounts of taxpayers money on utterly useless climate models and fights against CO2.
If they were physicians, there would be millions of people dead from medical malpractice.
Wonder how much public healthcare, public education and infrastructure could have have been procured with the squandered $$$$$Billions?
More and more conservatives are beginning to think that “CPC” still means, “Communist
Party of Canada.” PMSH still looks less like Che Guevara than does Justin, though.
So where do we go now?
The problem with EC is the same problem that infects all government operations: no completions and perverse incentives. Specifically, career advancement and social acceptability in the group depend on conformity and a lack of curiosity. There are only negative consequences for engaging in actual scientific processes that may embarrass your bosses and coworkers.
The best way to get better science is to open up forecasting contracts to private entities to compete with the sclerotic government science departments. If the private sector consistently outperforms the public departments then maybe it’s time to rethink the public science model. As an incentive to entice individual scientists to improve their models, public or private, offer a generous bonus for the most accurate forecast. I suspect that changing to a results based incentive system would advance the research into misunderstood/ignored natural cycles and natural variation.
If you understand the history of science, this groupthink and hostility to nonconformist thought is not unique to CAGW. But CAGW Is the most expensive and society changing science that I can think of. Accordingly, the science should be beyond reproach and require a standard of evidence at least as high as the ideal for a legal case. Given the divergence between models and reality, CAGW science has not proved its case beyond reasonable doubt. Humans cannot convincingly be guilty of controlling the climate via CO2.
Environment Canada’s Science.
Says it all really.
This whole bunch of neo-brown shirts should be put on welfare.
Today.
CAGW is an Intelligence Test, one which has exposed the fools and bandits in Canada’s civil service, for what they are.
What was it the former head of EC stole?
$65 million?I guess a 10% commission was his due?
These are the kleptocracy, controlling and regulating the producers, exclusively for for the benefit of the regulators.
Notice the cute little uniforms?
All that is missing is the armband.
And what do these govt deadheads need sidearms for?
Like Canada Post, EC costs more every year and produces little of use to the taxpayer.
How can they be more useless?
Totally wrong at twice the price?
Is $7 billion enough?
Actually the regulations pushed by EC, prove there is no law in Canada.
If you are charged with causing a toxic spill, you have no legal defence.
The offence is whatever the minion deems it to be.
The toxin, is undefined as anything deleterious to fish (Hot coffee? Vodka?)
There is no defined concentration.
In other words, the crime, the penalty and definition of guilt are whatever EC wants them to be.
Burn the Witch.
Changing politicians without changing the culture is a disappointing non game-changer. The CPC has to appeal to the mindless middle by at least appearing to embrace their pieties. A principled conservative party, whatever that is, couldn’t achieve or maintain office in Canada. The culture is eco-feminist left or soft watermelon with resulting government involvement in far too much of the nation’s activities. Until we change what is taught in the classrooms, the cultural slide into serfdom will continue.
@enkidu2 (some kind of meaningless feelgood phrase).
Did you have something like this in mind? “To empower marginalized, at-risk individuals by employing a comprehensive prevention and wellness approach.”
Right now Harper’s the only game in town for anyone who knows shit from Shinola. He did extract us from the Kyoto agreement. Baby steps.
That would make the most important Ministry in a Justin Trudeau government, the Department of The Social Environment. Come to think of it, that department would be the entire goverment.
I live in Ottawa and have a cottage not far from town. I used to go there on weekends based on what the EC forecast said. The number of times I sat there in the cold or rain when it was supposed to be warm and sunny and became annoying so for my own amusement I started tracking the EC 7 day forecasts for Ottawa on an excel spreadsheet.
I allowed 5 degree C EITHER WAY from the projected temperature to the recorded temperature and collected the following data for a 60 day period in the summer of 2011;
1 day before 66% accuracy
2 days before 55% accuracy
3 days before 45% accuracy
4 days before 66% accuracy again (!)
5 days before 40% accuracy
6 days before 33% accuracy
When I lived in Toronto while chatting with co-workers at the coffee machine about weather forecasts, it turned out most of us watched the American broadcasts because we all discovered they were more accurate.
There were some excellent articles by the former head of the Dutch National Weather Service on why it is impossible to predict weather more than five days in advance and that’s at the best of times. In addition, there was a group working for years on a computer model of arguably the most important weather pattern on the planet i.e. the Monsoon. At least they had the integrity to report that they’d had no success.
Running flawed models repeatedly through more powerful computers simply gives you more wrong answers faster.
Unfortunately taxpayers are forced to squander enormous sums of money on hare-brained exercises that produce no useable results whatsoever and are indeed, counterproductive, with no accountability on the part of the perps. That’s what really frosts me.
http://www.amazon.ca/The-Deliberate-Corruption-Climate-Science/dp/0988877740
by Tim Ball
Dr. Ball was a guest for the last 2 hours of Coast to Coast on Monday night, if you can access it on Corus site like CJOB’s archieve, it is worth your time.
Eight years is a good run. I would like to see Jason Kenney win the leadership. He would wipe the floor with Baby Justin.
You will all remember that we were told that “the science is settled” and that increasing greenhouse gas levels would drive temperatures up by 0.2 degrees per decade in the early part of the current century. Didn’t happen – kids graduating from high school have not experienced global warming in their lifetimes. Scientists don’t know why Mother Nature is such a bi*ch and why she doesn’t heed their super expensive model predictions.
Tim Ball points out that the Canadian climate model (Andrew Weaver’s baby) is the alarmist worst among dozens of models around the world.
If the science is settled, why do we need dozens of multi million dollar models that produce wildly different predictions? Why do they just average the result of these models, knowing that at a maximum one of them can be right (hasn’t happened yet)and call that a prediction? Why don’t they scrap the poorly performing Canadian “dog?” Wouldn’t just one good model do the job for the world?
“Scientists don’t know why Mother Nature is such a bi*ch and why she doesn’t heed their super expensive model predictions.”
As a German eco-tourist wandering around the Rockies suddenly realizes in that split second before Mama Grizzly rips his head off, it is pointless to worship at the altar of Mother Nature because she just doesn’t care.
Both CAGW climate science and its political solution can be defined as ‘wicked problems’. The traditional suggestions to solve wicked problems are competitively, collaboratively or authoritarian. IMO, the best results in science, law and politics come from the competitive model. In CAGW, you can see that they wanted to go with collaboratively but as soon as sceptics/lukewarmers became competitive they shifted to full authoritarianism (explaining their admiration for China and need to silence rivals). ‘They’ being the political class and CAGW alarmists. Maybe after Paris 2015 bombs they’ll move to the competitive model, if politicians and the public haven’t completely tuned them out to focus on more pressing, non-wicked problems. For instance, The Crimean issue gives the EU an excuse to rethink its energy policies without admitting their failure and incompetence.
April 1, starting at 2 AM then 3 AM. Thanks Kate
http://www.cjob.com/audio-on-demand/
Great interview with Dr. Tim Ball on coast-to-coast am.