Egg farmers at the meeting also got a glimpse into how big the animal rights business has become. Humane Society International, based in Washington but also Canada’s biggest animal rights player, brought in $9.3 million in revenue for 2012. Its U.S. parent, the Humane Society of the United States raises more than $120 million every year.
Less than one per cent of that is used for animal care, said Kay Johnson Smith, president of Animal Agriculture Alliance in the U.S.
“It spends $25 million every year on lobbying and legislative campaigns — campaigns to disparage agriculture,” Johnson Smith said. “It spends $20 million just to fundraise to bring in the other $100 million.
“It’s a big industry, and they have a very big budget dedicated to ending our industry and ending your livelihood.”
But activism isn’t really about farmer practices or even animal welfare, said 
Austin.
“It’s not about improving welfare practices,” she said. “Don’t expect that they’ll go away because you did what they asked you to. They keep moving that bar to make it impossible for you to do business.”
Time we took these slackivists at their word, just like those arguing for a “carbon free” environment.
Often same people.
Time to exile these anti humanist anti energy dimwits to fenced utopias of their non-chosing.
If they protest farming, mass production they must practice what they preach.
Even if their practise is enforced externally.
I saved an eco-loon poster from the Hollyhock nitwits; The truth about beef”, there is no hope for these fools, they are not worth arguing with, I vote straight to exile.
A lifestyle free of all animal products shall be imposed, on the eco-nasties.
This is what they preach for us, so lets see how they do.
No oil products, no animal products and no industrial products, should be real interesting.. for a very short time.
Bottom line, charitable status for these organizations that seek to destroy our civilization must be revoked.
Want to bet how long they would persist without their snouts in the public trough?
The Humane Society is just another face of marxism. Every time they show their faces, those faces should be punched until they go away. These are dangerous morons who will not be happy until they starve billions to death. And even then, they won’t be finished with their nefarious activities. They will keep going further.
Insane Vegans of America, unite!
Robert L said: “The Humane Society is just another face of marxism.”
Some of the useful idiots are, I’m sure. But what this really is? Its a money making racket. They don’t appear to actually -have- an ideology at the higher levels of the organization, just an appetite for money.
Its a genteel shakedown racket. Mobsters in blue suits with nice manners and Ivy League degrees. The joke is, I doubt they are even trying to put farmers out of business. They are doing what they need to do to keep the donations and payola flowing in, keep their supporters jazzed up, keep the ball rolling.
Farmers going out of business probably doesn’t even show up on their radar. They only look at the fundraising. If starving all of North America raises their numbers, they’ll do it.
Its important to understand the enemy, and not mislead ourselves as to their true nature.
Time to re-read Tom Clancy’s “Rainbow Six”; he had them pegged.
Every farm org and cattleman’s group in the country is sitting down at the table with these arseholes. And that’s their first – and most fateful – mistake.
It starts with all the “stakeholders” sitting down to discuss codes/standards of care. And from then on, there can only be one result: a long steady retreat towards that inevitable day when the rules are so bureaucratic and prohibitively expensive that you just won’t be able to own livestock anymore.
Sadly the result if they are successful will be another million or so dead children in the third world as happened with the sloppy approach to banning TDT.
I think it would be great if a the compliant MSM started to monitor those who over reach with this screed. Start with belts and shoes and lederhosen. Then move to the whips and halters group. This would include all horse and dog tracks an then move to polo ponies and carnival ponies. The list could just go on and on.
Whoops this might offend the Manhattan Northeast readers and shareholders of the N.Y. Times. Not likely to happen I guess. Cheers;
I agree with your assessment of the hierarchy of the “Humane Societies”……but it also manifests at lower levels.
I saw immigrant Brit relatives (working class Brits)swarm to HS employment like a moth to a flame….I suspect they could not find a civil service feather bed on either side of the pond.
As far as the “animal rights” loons they seek to end pet ownership, zoos, domestic livestock as well as hunting and meat consumption….which they regard as slavery. PETA kills animals.
A while back I went around to the local HS to get a coupla barn cats….no way….they had to be neutered and live in a house.
Then later I encountered their “inspectors”… with Brit accents….. poking about looking for “abused cats”….ran ’em off…with the dog….and a 2×4….I expected a return engagement but I guess I made my point.
Farmers going out of business probably doesn’t even show up on their radar.
They hate farmers and want to make them into serfs again. They need someone to grow their food for them, because nothing will grow for them. But the Biblically illiterate don’t know why.
Given that more than half of U.S. farm income reportedly comes from subsidies, it’s hard to know who to root for in this one.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/economy/economy-lab/for-us-farmers-subsidies-the-best-cash-crop/article4399491/
You need to RTFA, Strad baby. Spell it out for you, USA, one hundred twenty MILLION bucks a year in fundraising. Canada branch office, ten MILLION bucks a year.
Name me one other “business” you can be in to raise that much dough with that little effort.
Religion.
Actually most of them subsidies are more properly consumer subsidies or foreign aid.
The original intent of European agricultural subsidies was to encourage domestic production to relieve shortages and offshore dependency after WW2.
When I wuz a kid my dad was primarily a dairy farmer, everytime weather and market forces threatened to raise dairy prices, the government imported dairy product from a cheaper offshore source…..one year after a dry start we got rain just as a coupla shiploads of New Zealand butter ( govt. butter not loblaws ect) arrived in Vancouver….price of milk plummeted….hard times
Cheap food policy……
You mean “other” religions:-))))
For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: “The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat.”
2 Thessalonians 3:10
Name me one other “business” you can be in to raise that much dough with that little effort.
Heh, well, ethereal one, the central banks make it up out of thin air. Plus charge interest. Makes that amount look like loose change.
You’re dealing with the small fry… there’s a lot bigger than they are. And it ain’t the central banks.
Anyway, have fun cutting the tail off the snake…even though everyone knows you can’t kill a snake that way. They’ll tire you out and grind you in the dirt. They’ll just keep coming, and you don’t know from where…this ain’t no religion, you’re livin’ it, exactly as it’s written.
You have fun stumblin’ around bouncing from one ‘issue’ to the other, ya hear. In the the end, you’ll just end up exhausted and going with the flow. Or, drop out like the Captain…either way, they win.
“You have fun stumblin’ around bouncing from one ‘issue’ to the other, ya hear.”
Yeah. Sure. Central banks, global warming, terrorism, Humane Society, gun control, its always the same issue in a different suit. Maybe you should read Canadian Observer’s one word comment at 8:55 and think about it for a while.
Of course it’s about religion, on the surface. Almost all wars have been about religion. Atheism, also, being a belief as much as any other, but mostly anti-Christian.
But it isn’t religion that has engineered this whole thing. That’s only used as a means, as is education, the economy and politics also used as a means to an end.
Hard to oppose that ‘end’ if you don’t know what it is.
Remember this display of dystopian hostility when they pass the hat at the office this year for United Way – this political lobby scum is listed as a charity – it shouldn’t be – just like the other political advocacy orgs who shelter themselves under a charity banner.
Understood, and the nature of agriculture – long planning, long production cycles – merits some sort of insurance scheme. I lived on a dairy farm for a while myself, and it ain’t a walk in the park, even without a stupid government looking over your shoulder.
And I don’t have similar figures for Canada – but I suspect the impact of government is somewhat less here.
That being said – when farmers get over half their income from the government, they’ve become lobbying organizations as much as they are food producers. It’s like automobile companies – they make more money from financing than from the vehicles. Effectively, they’re financial institutions with car-making subsidiaries.
So while I yield to no-one in my disdain for environmental lobbyists – who are mostly scum – I think farmers raising concerns about lobbying might be “a little bit pregnant.”
You know Strad, you’re just consistently missing the point here.
Gun control isn’t about guns.
Humane society isn’t about animals.
Global warming isn’t about the climate.
Terrorism isn’t about winning a war.
Religion isn’t about religion.
Politics is not about The Polis.
There are no issues, plural. There is only one issue. Control. Who’s got it, and who wants it. Control equals money, money equals control. Two sides of the same coin, both sides forming the whole.
I should tell you, since you consistently take me on about this stuff, one of the curses of high intelligence is having conversations like this one. Being smarter doesn’t mean thinking the same things as everybody else only faster. It means seeing things that other people just don’t see.
A religion, or more properly a church, that demands money and power from its adherents and extorts it from all others is IDENTICAL to the Humane Society. They do the same things, they act the same way, they even sound the same when they advertise. Its just one more grasping, scraping, covetous group of b@st@rds trying to get by on Easy Street by stealing stuff instead of making it.
There is one issue. Freedom. There is one opponent, those who consider the rest of us too stupid or immoral to manage our own freedom and contrive to manage it for us instead. Whether by money or the barrel of a gun matters not, the end is the same.
Oh, and by the way because you so clearly missed it, this is not a discussion about religion, nor the lack thereof. This is a discussion about SCAMS and the perverted creatures who run them.
There is only one issue. Control.
Ya think?
This is a discussion about SCAMS and the perverted creatures who run them.
Heh, somebody mentioned the other day about the bird that flew in ever decreasing circles until it flew up it’s own backside. That would be you…suppose that would make you see things others don’t đŸ™‚
You know, you’re beginning to bore me.
I often ponder, with amusement, the oft mentioned “oldest profession”…..
It ain’t hookers….they did not surface until the city states….rare in small communities and unknown in hunting/gathering societies.
Not Warrior societies…..they arrived with agriculture and small permanent communities……and the development of the horse-cultures on the various plains.
Clergy…is the oldest profession. This element were present in even the oldest hunting/gathering groups. Those who figured out a way of living without hunting, gathering, tilling fields or engaging in defence/war. These enviro/humaine/rights groups fit into the category of priest/shaman. This element historically has employed the military to enforce their control.
Thus clergy and the military are the oldest professions….the camp followers were/are merely accessories.
Does that clarify yer fuzzification?