Now is the time at SDA when we juxtapose!
Steve, August 29th – Hi Kate, Since you’ve never experienced any time in academia and likely never will (online MENSA tests don’t have much weight with entrance requirements people), I don’t think your position on these matters is informed in any. As such, you may as well not post about it. There’s really only so much air brush artists can offer to issues of higher intellect.
National Post, August 29th – The University of Manitoba said it is reviewing its policy on how to accommodate students with disabilities despite winning a victory in court this week over a controversial decision to grant a PhD to a student who failed his courses due to “extreme exam anxiety.”
HA HA HA HA HA LOL!!! HA HA STEVE YOU F@CKING SISSY BOY!! KATE ONE UPPED YOU , YOU LOSER .
steve:She she she hurt my feeling’s now i can’t focus oh my ….gimmy my phd or i will sue you !!!
VERY VERY WELL DONE KATE !!!!
HA I AM LAUGHING SO HARD RIGHT NOW!!!
Ah, a classic Academic Degree Troll.
Don’t see many of them critters anymore.
Oh yoohoo Steevie, learned dweeb who cannot construct a complete sentence, your MSW probably qualifies you to wash dishes somewhere.
If you can score in the top two percent on your LSAT, you can write back, OK?
Now go back to your mommies basement.
Snort. I love it when karma makes it way back around so fast!
Dear Steve,
I am one of those Canadians who has a university degree, just like you. So WHAT?!? I’ve met insecure effeminate little man-boys like you while I was at UBC and then later in life – your modus operandi is all the same: you’ll be engaged in a discussion about a subject with someone you don’t know very well and as soon as you, and everyone around you, starts realizing that you’re LOSING the battle of wits, you immediately revert to what credentials you have. Sooooo incredibly pathetic!!!
Adam Carolla is an L.A. based comedian. He has no formal education beyond high school and barely passed that. Yet he’s a SUPER SMART guy. He was recently relating a story about some credentialed woman he was talking with. She told him that she didn’t like his long standing narrative that many women don’t know a lot about history. So he then asked her which countries generally made up each side during World War 2.
There was an embarrassing silence.
I’m guessing that if you & Kate were ever engaged in a public debate … on most anything … there’d be a lot of embarrassing silence when it was your turn to make a salient point.
This almost sounds like that obnoxious twit “Steve in Montreal” who calls Howie Carr’s show all the time.
I guess that we are just too ignorant to judge the ethereal prose of one, Barack Obama.
Especially the way he qualified for entry into that exclusive community college in Ohio after graduating from the finest high school in Hawaii.
Not sure how it works in Canada, but here in the US, community colleges are open admission. I am not putting them down, they are a great place to learn technical skills. They are just not the type of place where an academic superstar out of a prestigious high school could plausibly end up.
Incidentally, James Delingpole’s commentary on the same article is priceless! And be sure to read the hundreds of comments left as well. They so accurately describe Credentialed Nitwits like “Steve” who clearly haven’t amounted to much in life. Steve knows this better than anyone but rather than acknowledge this fact and do something about it, instead he finds it easier to just lash out at more successful folks like Kate.
Hahahah…. and Har!
I was wondering if this might be the consequence of the decades long decline in the U o fM …. took some courses there back in the 80s and must say …. some of the instructors were total boobs.
Is it an accademic problem or an administrative problem?
Also, has McCleans rag been so wrong all these years in their assessment and ranking of the U of M?
Looks like Steve’s degree is in condescendence. But then, that training is built right into most of the arts courses anyway. How could he possible graduate as anything but an obnoxious ass.
Has Kate ever lost to a troll?
I mean, she has well thought out posts…. believes in what she says….. is always true to her beliefs not trying to impress or get votes or favor……
As you can tell from my post…. not too much formal english education.
But when Steve’s internet is slow or his phone does not work or his roof needs new shingles or his car needs oil or his toilet is plugged let me know.
I have other skill sets from a variety of different jobs.
Well, Mr. Steve, I have a degree in engineering think of you as a short circuit, and a twit.
See little troll Steve – play with fire and you get burned.
Well, in my opinion Kate is plenty smart enough for me to take the time to read her thoughts most days. I have several degreee and I don’t think this many people would take the time to read my ramblings.
If you are dumb enough to think that intelligence is created at universities, you are too dumb to have an opinion on just about anything.
Give ’em Hell, Kate!
Steve
I have several degrees… and I don’t think I would ever be so arrogant as to mock someone who didn’t. But then they are simply history degrees and the only thing it has really shown me is that the past is full of asshats like you. Canceraids dealt with, how many Universities is this now that are in the useless cracker jack box degree -“don’t ever send the kids there” category… UM, Carelton, OttawaU, UofT…. the number just keeps growing.
Whoa! Cut poor Steve some slack folks. He’s only satisfying the yearnin’ of those with book learnin’ to administer a verbal spanking to uppity neanderthals who have the temerity to engage in common sense discussion. The Jethro Bodines of this world should be thankful for Steve and his ilk for taking the time to point out that we are not members in good standing of academia and therefore are too stupid and ignorant to discuss anything of substance.
Thanks Steve. Thanks for putting us in our rightful place. Thanks for the friendly reminder that we make up the great unwashed masses. Thanks for helping us to recognize our unworthiness.
Now p*ss off.
I think Shaq has a case against the NBA considering his Extreme Free Throw Shooting Anxiety was not accommodated, resulting in ridicule and his low Free Throw shooting percentage. In fact, he and the Orlando Magic might have won the NBA championship in his rookie season had they only granted him his fair share of points for the Free Throws he missed during that series. I’ve seen numerous examples of unfair ridicule of the big man and his Free Throw shooting percentage over the years; and I can’t help but think that if they’d adjusted his stats to make the playing field level(forget that he’s 7’2″ 325#), he might not have ventured into movies and rap music for a self-esteem fix. Just imagine how his self-esteem could have been helped if the NBA just treated Shaq fairly.
Credentialism on stilts with a fat head, a clowns face, a dripping yellow liquid middle,Brown pants a stinking, with shaky legs drifting nowhere.
A big fall for a future.
JMO
“Extreme exam anxiety”?
Compare and contrast this with a U of M student in the 1990s. After obtaining his undergraduate engineering degree, he was rendered a quadriplegic as a result of an unfortunate car accident. A few months following the accident, he successfully completed his entrance exam for the MBA program. He then finished his degree while serving a couple of terms as the students’ union president.
To my knowledge, this person wasn’t granted any special favours aside from accessibility improvements to the campus and a proxy to write down his oral answers during examinations. This man is now a federal minister of the Crown.
My, how standards at the U of M have fallen.
Hey Steve,
Standing behind a piece of U of M paper suddenly turned into a “bullseye”.
Is there a math equation for that somewhere?
one has to wonder how Stoopid Steve feels now
S S = 0
Kate = 2 (she smacked stevie a double hitter:-)))
Dang, now I sorta feel bad for Steve and Shaq. Public humiliation of such scale has gotta hurt.
Oh well…at least Shaq has his millions…
From what I’ve seen, he’s probably got a good point that high IQ is likely some sort of detriment to success in acadamia.
If anyone from academia drops by, tell them I’ll be back after my tour of the 57 states to offer an explanation.
Steve!
Some people have a way with words, and other people………not have way I guess…….
Steve just added a PhD in humility studies from SDAU to his undergrad degree in neo-putzism.
Alright, I admit it, long day, my brain is slow. Is Kate saying that the person named Steve, that wrote the idiotic comment in the Rick Perry post, is the student discussed in the National Post article?
Hmmm, I have a BSc and an MSc and I’m an airbrush artist. How does that square with Steve’s “logic”? Oh yeah, and I got both degrees after I retired from a long and successful military career achieved on a high school diploma. Did I miss Steve telling us what he has achieved?
Well thought out, Steve.
You’re being properly castigated. Perhaps you would be so bold as to take on none other than Mark Steyn?
I looked up gormless in the dictionary and Steve’s name was listed as the #1 definition.
Ignore my previous post – brain slow, and Kate’s too clever. I get it now.
Hi Steve
I did spend time in academia. Good time, I enjoyed it. Two things to remember. 1.Academia and/or being part of academia does not make one smart. 2. Academia is completely unproductive and has no relationship to real life. Academia is a world where people create solutions for problems that don’t exist.
I believe Kate’s KARMA just ran over Steve’s DOGMA….but I could be wrong.
Academia is like a gun. Left alone it does no harm, but when someone wants to “f” one over it becomes quite the tool.
BTW Lukacs is respected and popular among students. The battle rages on at U of M. It’s not a leftist monopoly like at the University of Winnipeg, but they remain a strong force.
That was fun.
This could be the funniest ever. Well done Kate.
Steve: “I don’t think your position on these matters is informed in any.”
Steve: “I don’t think.”
Fixed that for you.
Speaking of grad degrees.
Penelope’s blog is a highly amusing and informative career blog like no other. She’s been writing an oh so relevant/kindred series – “Voices of the defenders of grad school. And me crushing them.’
http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2011/08/30/the-best-alternative-to-grad-school/
h/t Shaidle
I don’t think Steve is having a good day.
What I wonder is how someone with “exam anxiety” ever made it to the PhD level? There would have been a lot of exams on the way there.
To me it’s very simple – you enroll in a program and fulfill certain requirements in order to graduate from the program. If you don’t fulfill the requirements, then you flunk out. Hopefully, screwing up will give the person who failed some experience in what not to do in the future. I came close to blowing a year of university due to spending too much time partying and was lucky that I passed all the exams I failed during the summer. The only person I blamed was myself; I’d never think of coming up with “exam anxiety” as an excuse. I knew damn well the problem was insufficient time spent studying and that was the lesson I learned that year. Glad I learned it early in my academic career.
There are drugs for treating extreme anxiety but we don’t have any IQ enhancing drugs yet; at least none that work reliably on everyone. I’m curious what other factors were involved before this grad student decided to try the “I’m disabled” ploy. Wonder if the UofM administration knows that this action will make the whole world suspicious about the quality of the degrees they award. University is not an everybody wins situation, or at least it never used to be.
m – Don’t forget that academics respond with hostility when you try to tell them that school isn’t the same as the real world. At least, it’s not the same as the real world for those who don’t work in government.
Steve is on Al Gore’s side shouting “Shut up. You can’t say that.”
Steve, you’ve pantsed yourself in public. Humiliating, isn’t it?
I have a degree, so you must accept what I write as the truth. I’m just following your rules.
It has been noted elsewhere…that in the real world when an individual “chokes” under stress…he loses…
Om real life, that how things are…and that’s why standards are set. El Toro does not give a matador a break…nor visa versa…there IS always a “momment of truth”..
All credentials from U of M are now more or less wothless…
Tain’t right…
Tain’t wrong…
It just is.
roflmao from the comments! Thanks to you, Steve, I’ve never had so many good laughs. What’s your degree in, gender studies?
Little Steve seems to not know the difference between “schooling” and “education”. They are entirely different concepts.
In fact, it is more accurate to describe many in the Arts and Social “Sciences” as “indoctrinated” rather than “educated”.
Bill Gates comes to mind.
As an alumnus of U of M, I am embarrassed by the kowtowing of the administration to the g*d of politically correctness. Now I know the feeling of real graduates from Harvard Law School.
From the Penelope Trunk article earlier linked:
“I was hired to run the whole Internet for a Fortune 500 company, Ingram Micro. My job was to enforce the AP Style guide even though I’d never read it. I was in charge of the web development team even though I didn’t know anything about development besides the HTML pages I wrote in grad school.
I gave myself a graduate course in Internet. And a graduate course in copy writing. And a graduate course in management. I read books. I read magazines. I tried stuff out and took way too long and then tried it again.
[…]
I got fired for having sixteen non-work projects on my work computer. At the time I was horrified. Now I think it was the inevitable result of me taking control over my own education.”
This, right here, is a) the primary reason the tech industry is so screwed up to this day, and 2) enough evidence that no one should take anything Penelope says seriously. (Also c) why I will never buy stock from Ingram Micro).
Yes, there’s a lot of worthless degrees out there and you can pretty much replace the liberal arts with a library card. But there are still fields where knowing your shit matters, and trying to to figure it out yourself is not going to work.
Oh, and this made me larf:
“But credentials don’t get the job. Experience does.”
Like at Ingram Micro?
I caught parts of an interview on CKNW on Aug 30 in the noon hour timeslot with an author who wrote a report on how post secondary education does not mean “higher income” as much as in past years.
This nutty professor asserted that the problem was that too much time was spent teaching skills that employers asked for.
All the time he spent studying the matter and he could not state the obvious that much of what post secondary schools teach now is cr*p.
Kate doesn’t get mad.
But she doesn’t forget either. 🙂
Four run homer, Kate.
I have an Honours degree in Political Science, a Masters degree in History, and am a published and cited author in that field. I once taught classes at the University, before heading out and starting my own company. I enjoy reading on a variety of subjects and find Kate and her posts to be remarkably well-informed, clever and insightful.
Higher education, in my experience, means absolutely nothing. Some of the smartest people I have met have no traditional ‘higher learning’ under their belt. On the other side, I have met Ph.D’s who are little more than drooling idiots, forcing you to wonder how they haven’t died in years past putting a fork into a toaster.
Having said all that,
Steve can just suck it.
ta ta