131 Replies to “The Tolerant Left”

  1. Outstanding comment EBD. This being the internet, though, I gotta find something to disagree with 🙂
    There’s liberal vicious – and then there’s gay vicious, a whole other level of viciousness. Gays make up only a small percentage of the population, and of liberals; I’d hate to see gay nastiness get whitewashed as liberal nastiness. This is a gay thing, not a liberal thing, or even a gay marriage supporter thing. Kinda one in the same, yes, but not 100%, and I don’t want to let the gays off the hook on this one. They’ve gone a bridge too far.
    We outnumber them 19 to 1, folks, let’s start throwing our weight around. How much worse does it need to get?

  2. Great comments and thoughts, guys and gals.
    Never let them define you. Never let the guilt you.
    Stand up for your beliefs. Express them with dignity.
    Fend off the personal attacks with the shield of truth.
    Just reading the last few posts confirms what I have known all along … that the fact-based opninons I hold are shared by the majority of decent human beings through out the world.
    Miss California was more apologetic than she needed to be in her dignified answer, yet attempts to vilify her through ignorant comments came straight from the totalitarian playbook.
    The activist and his boyfriend are the ones whose undignified words have defined them as desperate as their viewpointis being battered in the court of public opinion.

  3. Since when, SINCE WHEN, should it be so shocking to the gay community that there are still millions of people in North America that support the traditional definition of marriage?? “Gay marriage” has only been around on this continent for a few measly years (thanks to that idiot Paul Martin and activist judges).
    Perez Hilton should stop being so HETEROPHOBIC and intolerant of other people’s views.
    Heterophobic. A word we should use more often.
    Stop being a Heterophobe, Perez!

  4. I know what you mean, A-SA, that some “gays” fight, proverbially speaking, with their teeth and their fingernails. Ha-ha. But it’s important to understand that there’s a difference between “gay,” which is political, and being homosexual, which is not.
    There are many homosexual conservatives; when you talk about “throwing our weight around” because “we outnumber them 19 to 1,” you’re advocating a sort of collectivist animus against a minority, instead of focusing on fighting back against a social-enforcement tactic which, any way you slice it, is increasingly a realpolitik tactic of many on the the left, or more particularly, in the current U.S. context, Obama supporters, and not of homosexuals.
    The notion that certain beliefs and views are not acceptable, and must not be allowed expression, under threat of vicious excoriation, is rooted in a collectivist mindset that is clearly on the march. The impetus is at its root shameless, selfish, vicious and hypocritical, and it’s neither here nor there — it’s merely incidental — that some of the more dramatic sorts of gay activists are joining in on the tactic.
    The behaviour itself is certainly not a “gay” issue, and I’d suggest that to deem it so is the equivalent of focusing on one particular rifle, rather than on the opposing army advancing over the hill — in other words, it’s a serious, serious mistake that plays into the enemies’ hands.

  5. Anon is apparently, to me, not here to have rational, logical, honest, open-minded discourse. Anon is obviously a trained propagandist-activist with an agenda to promote a certain extreme ideological movement. I recognize it from miles away, the way Anon carries on. Seen it so many times in Leftists. I’m surprised that they don’t move on to new tactics, talking points, language, etc. They’re so cliche in their activism style that it’s laughable.

  6. “you’re advocating a sort of collectivist animus against a minority”
    You say that like it’s a bad thing. Sometimes – often – the weak deserve to get their ass kicked, doubly so when they are the ones who picked the fight. Women have never been known to be much for generalship, or actually fighting in actual wars, so you’ll forgive me for pretty much ignoring your thoughts on the matter. Sorry, this one might be a guy thing, we don’t need a hag asking why can’t everyone get along or spewing pseud crap like realpolitik.
    “The behaviour itself is certainly not a “gay” issue”
    That’s just wrong. It is a gay thing. You’re part of the problem.
    “I’d suggest that to deem it so is the equivalent of focusing on one particular rifle, rather than on the opposing army advancing over the hill”
    I’d suggest that is a preposterous comparison and that you should excuse yourself from the room when adults are talking politics.
    No need to ban me Kate, thank you for allowing me to comment here but it is utterly impossible for me to be civil under the circumstances and I can find the door myself. I’m out and I’m not coming back.

  11. EBD:
    Left’s growing, self-righteous insistence that opposing positions are not just illegitimate, but should be forbidden from being expressed.
    I don’t agree with Gay Marriage for civic & religious reasons, But EBD got the jist of it all in this sentence of his. Pretty much say’s it all about the Attitudes now expressed by Leftist propagandists. In the end Gay’s like this will be consumed by their own authoritarianism.
    Sad but inevitable. I am not against human rights for Gays, but it ALWAYS turns out when this group becomes this aggressive with crude displays forced on folks with being constantly told their bad for not agreeing with their lifestyle. Or worse being persecuted because of it. A back lash is sure to follow. Something none of us want to see. The left never knows when to stop.
    JMO

  12. I think Anti-Snark Activist has also been calling himself “Ottawan” and “No Broads Abroad” (or was it “Aboard”?)
    If I’m right then I’m sure he will be back, telling people to go away while the adults are talking and so on.

  14. You know, in retrospect, if you look at Anti-Snark Activist’s 8:42 pm post, it’s pretty clear that, like Kinsella’s emails from his “fans” (wink-wink) it just doesn’t pass the sniff-test. He/she’s not who she’s pretending to be.
    “It is utterly impossible for me to be civil under the circumstances…” — this from someone who said, moments before, “we don’t need a hag asking…”
    Inconsistent tone, exaggerated attempts to mimic what he stereotypes as the right-wing crowd — — I’d give it an “F,” for sheer implausibility.

  16. Pfft. I nailed that after two sentences of his first post. The whole sex toy thing was a dead giveaway.

  18. EBD – It’s their style. Inconsistency, exaggeration, emotional outbursts, irrationality, etc is what defines them, and they can’t help but show it.
    But to be fair, it’s pretty hard to mimic the right … all we have to do to mimic the left is to get real, real drunk.

  19. The anti-Israel stuff is a little puzzling, if he is playing to a stereotype. Aren’t we neo-con types meant to be in the pockets of our Zionist overloards and so on (I know I am)?

  21. A Storm is coming,
    “Well I’m a Western Separatist. Your nationalism means shit to me. And I like Ann Coulter too, so there you go. Run along now.”
    Figures. Like all good western separatists you sit at home and rant on the internet. Now make like the Tamil separatists and go sit in some other country and complain about how bad you have it in Canada.
    I’m sure theres some moonbat lefty who likes flamer from the clip. Congratulations on being his nutter equivalent.
    And yes, in Canada I am superior to you. Just like a Republican is superior to a Democrat. Countries are build on the blood of patriots. Traitors should be hung. Now where’s that storm? Still waiting.
    ET
    “tweet – the problem with your Canadian nationalism is that it is binary. You define it as Either-Or. Either Pro-Canadian or Pro-American, and to be one, according to you, includes being against the other.”
    Oh, I think you didn’t read my original post. I think America is a great country, but I will stand up for my country when shrill hacks like Ann Coulter engage in Canada bashing for the sake of it. And then theres the Canada-haters on this board. Its hardly my fault that they’re out and out pro-American, so I encourage them to leave. I have no gripes with the US. They do what they have to, and good for them. You’ll notice that a lot of people on this site, including you I suspect, tend to judge Canada using American standards, which is unfair, because we never claimed we were America. We re tiny in comparison, but that should not detract from what we have achieved as a nation.
    “I certainly don’t love a nation”
    I do. I am thnakful for what I have, and I am convinced that democracies rectify all the faults over time. Bilingualism will die a slow death. It may take longer than you or I like, but it will happen.
    “The US, in 1776, decided on an entirely new political and social structure – quite an accomplishment. ”
    Yes, and good for them. We did what he had to, and survived with a fraction of the US population. That is an achievement, too. Unless of course you had wanted us to integrate completely wiht the US, in which case I am within my rights to suggest you migrate.
    You know, ET, loyalty isnt such a bad thing. You will praise an AMerican for being loyal and standing up for America – I have read your posts on Obama’s little jaunt to Europe where you criticized him for daring to criticize the US – but the same does not apply to Canada.
    I suspect that if you were American, you would proclaim your unconditional love for your country. As a Canadian who loves America, you seem to be caught in some treachorous middle ground. My advice to move to that side of the border is not malicious – it is merely pragmatic.

  22. Tweet wrote: Figures. Like all good western separatists you sit at home and rant on the internet. Now make like the Tamil separatists and go sit in some other country and complain about how bad you have it in Canada.
    I’m sure theres some moonbat lefty who likes flamer from the clip. Congratulations on being his nutter equivalent.
    And yes, in Canada I am superior to you. Just like a Republican is superior to a Democrat. Countries are build on the blood of patriots. Traitors should be hung. Now where’s that storm? Still waiting.
    Well.. where to start. In your first paragraph you compare me to a tamil. Well homey..I am a born and bred westerner. I didn’t come here from anywhere else and I don’t plan to move east to complain. The difference is obvious but I doubt you will get it.
    I don’t know what the hell your second paragraph says. Leftist b.s. as far as I can tell.
    Your third paragraph states you are superior to me. Oh really. In real life or just behind a keyboard? Also, I lean more to the republican side of things than democrap, so I’m not sure where you are going with that point. Then you state traitors should be hung. I assume you think I should be hung for wanting an independent West. Again, tough words from behind the keyboard. Where is the storm? Well…pass your carbon tax buddy…you’ll see it.
    Sorry Kate I won’t waste anymore band width on this topic. I apologize.

  23. A Storm is Coming,
    I’ll keep an eye out for you on “Free the Oppressed West” Day. Will you be protesting in Ottawa? Or outside your garage? Or better yet, in it?

  24. One last comment on “anon’s” petulance and nastiness: ‘Anyone see the videos put out in the ’80s with members from Act Up, the militant gays’ organization which defines itself as “a diverse, non-partisan group of individuals united in anger and committed to direct action to end the AIDS crisis”? (Of course, no mention of ceasing risky sexual activity …)
    http://www.actupny.org/
    Looking straight into the camera, two things:
    “We’re here, we’re queer, and we’re going to sodomize your sons,” and
    “We’ll contaminate the blood supply if you don’t give us what we want.”
    ‘Anyone else catch a whiff of sulphur in the air?

  25. Ewwwww!
    I just Googled Perez Hilton (real name Mario Lavandeira), and is s/he UG-LEE.

  26. Ah yes, the tolerant Left, who are so loving and caring and wonderful to everyone all the time… unless they fail to echo the Party Line du jour when prompted.
    Mr. Poofter there makes much of the fact that Miss California had breast implants. Professional athletes do worse in the quest for performance. At the top end of competition people are looking for that advantage these days. I’d wager that 90% of Miss America wannabes have some work done. Not a good thing for sure, but the water they are swimming in.
    However, this is beside the point. What I think is instructive here, is a girlie who has gone to the extreme of having plastic surgery to win this thing had to put up with Perez F-ing Hilton’s political questioning. She spoke the truth, KNOWING she was kissing off the Miss America crown with her answer. Breast implants and all. That is what used to be known as “character”.
    Keith Olberman and Mr. Poofy columnist haven’t got the guts between them that this girl has in her baby finger.

  27. The most important point that can be made right now is, Perez Hilton does not represent any verifiable, countable human constituency.
    In fact, the media accounts of “gay-marriage’s” following in North America are as sketchy as their ones referencing the Arab “street” in Jenin.
    Whether they are used to inflame civil unrest in Gaza or in L.A., unpoll-able, unverifiable, antagonistic constituencies are advocacy-media’s best friends. Please don’t make the mistake of letting them equate their contrived voting-bloc, in this case “Gay-Marriage Supporters,” with America’s assimilated, homosexual individuals.
    The tactic is subtle and effective. It tries to engineer bevies of free Americans into programmable, single-issue blocs. lliberal is just one word I could use to describe this semantic corralling. Another, slightly exaggerative, one might be Terrorism, insofar as the intended outcome is a polarized citizenry and its inevitable result, violent civil war.
    It is up to us free thinking Americans to resist it.
    I

  28. “Leave it to the leftie moonbats. When they can’t engage in civilized debate, they simply resort to name calling.”
    I respectfully suggest that your point of view would be better served if you did not resort to name calling in the same paragraph in which you lament the tendency of your opponents to resort to name calling.
    Just trying to help.

  29. I was very pleased to hear the comments of a gay man who phoned his opinion on this very topic to “Showbiz Tonight” on CNN – the show played his voice message – “I am a gay man (was easy to tell he was) and I believe in gay marriage, but I will fight to the death for the right of the Miss America contestant to speak her view” free speech and the right to our opinion trumps everything (last sentence paraphrased)

  30. Conservatives, meet irony. Irony, these are conservatives. They won’t get you, but it’s probably best you know what we’re dealing with.
    Nothing is sadder than Conservatives screaming “intolerance”, when liberals call them on their bigotry. You guys do get the difference, right? Tolerance is about accepting multiple view points, but it’s never about accepting one group trying to deny another their rights to equal treatment under the law.
    Here’s you guys….
    Conservative: “You know what I hate? Blacks! They should just sit at the back of the bus and shut the hell up!”
    Liberal: “Wow. You are one stupid dick. You realize we’re living in the 21st century, right?”
    Conservative: “You are SO intolerant!”

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