134 Replies to ““Palestinians are, if we were to believe their fancifully posed pictures””

  1. The only mocking is being done by the Palistinians, and they think they can get away with it because of imbeciles like you, Ulianov.

  2. Check out what Governor Palin said to Katie coo coo chick. The Governor of Alaska saw this comming down the pipe…the Demos…were and are lulled, all of the time! The terrorists ‘dream team’ in America is about to take over, they would not be so bold if the other team had won.

  3. I can’t believe ulianov would compare armed Palestinians and their supporters to Jews in Nazi Germany. How tasteless can you be? :\ Are you even aware you just likened Zionists to Hitler?

  4. I can’t believe ulianov would compare armed Palestinians and their supporters to Jews in Nazi Germany. How tasteless can you be? :\ Are you even aware you just likened Zionists to Hitler?

  5. 400 plus dead Palestinians vs. 4 dead Israelis.
    Yep, it’s a mockery alright.
    Posted by: ulianov at January 2, 2009 2:40 PM
    I believe the correct term is “winning”.

  6. In retrospect it might have been a better idea to carve off a piece of Germany and give THAT to the Jews as a homeland, rather than giving them a chunk of Palestine. After all it was the bloody Germans who were persecuting the Jews AND they’d lost the war to boot. Leave the hothead fanatics to their barren wasteland.

  10. Don’t worry about ulianov, it’s just a middle school kid (obviously from his/her reasoning skills).
    It takes a special kind of stupid to compare war dead as a means of determining who is in the wrong. Ulianov has done that beautifully. Congrats idiot.

  11. Pallies always ham it up on camera too. Compare photos and footage of them with people after 9/11 or the Oaklahoma City bombing. The Muzzies literally do stuff like tear their hair out. It looks so fake. No one is ever “in shock” — they seem to be looking for the nearest shutter so they can start mugging.
    PS Ulianov, that ratio sounds pretty good to me. People who weaponize their own children deserve everything they get.

  12. From comments at seriously deluded, immoral Canadian but ‘progressive’ B lahg.
    “Annual odds of an Israeli dying in a Palestinian terrorist attack are 2 in a million! Israelis killed MONTHLY in traffic accidents: about 45. Israeli deaths annually from obesity: 43. Those Palestinian terrorists are SO scary!”
    Oh, yeah, Israel should just put up with the rockets & mortars. What possesses these people to root for terrorists, who would murder them in an instant?

  14. Those pictures are amateur hour. Qana was real Pallywood, back in the day when Hisbollah torqued the MSM, mutilated dead children for better pictures, violated the dignity of corpses . . the usual sick, demented stuff we have come to expect from these mental midgets.
    http://tinyurl.com/zd668
    There will always be the MSM fools who will cover for the Hamas soldiers who hide in schools, mosques and hospitals because they are gutless cowards who care not a whit about their won people. The idiots who won’t report about Hamas refusing medical treatment for their people because more dead children is what they want. The compliant mental turds who report on “starvation” in Gaza when the UN says it can’t accept anymore food shipments from Israel because the warehouses are stocked to the rafters. The simple minded internationalist fellow travelers who complain that Israel is launching terror attacks when the IDF goes to the trouble of hacking Hamas TV and Gaza cell phone networks to warn people about the next Hamas targets to be destroyed.
    But there will always be those afflicted with pseudo concern about “400 plus dead Palestinians vs. 4 dead Israelis” as their way of covering for their cold blooded hatred for Israel.
    Go IDF go, this is the time to destroy Hamas. I’d say bomb them back to the stone age, but for Hamas and Hisbollah, the stone age would be a few steps forward on the enlightenment scale and I don’t think you can bomb these sick demented death loving terrorists “forward”.

  15. Sadly, Israel is going to lose this war too, just like Lebanon 2006.
    Re: Pallywood Productions Inc., what I find so depressing is Israel’s failure to fight the propaganda war, which will decide this conflict.
    Remember the Al Dura hoax (the staged “murder” of a Pali pop and son by Israel’s IDF) perpetrated by French TV. Even when it was uncovered, after becoming the chief icon of Intifada #2, Israel remained silent about it. If I’m not mistaken, they didn’t even show up in the French court.
    If the victim of Pallywood fails to defend itself, hard to imagine MSM changing its tune.
    Israel has very bad press because it’s overly concerned about having very bad press!

  16. There is nothing easier (or more fashionable) than sitting back and criticizing the Isrealis when one is safe and sound in North America.
    I would submit that those morally and intellectually challenged cretins that persist in labelling any Israeli response as “dissproportionate” would, if a rocket was to land within a 5 block radius of their homes, promptly lose control of their bodily functions. After recovering their composure and changing their pants, they would immediately demand that such rocket attacks be stopped by whatever means possible.
    Keeping score of losses on both sides would somehow become irrelevant.

  18. 400 plus dead Palestinians vs. 4 dead Israelis.
    Yep, it’s a mockery alright.
    Posted by: ulianov at 2:40 PM
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    most of those 400 are Hamass fighters (ie;soldiers in this context)
    what would you suggest the Isrealis use, rubber bombs????

  19. Did you ever notice how leftholes never bring up Darfur? Innocent Darfurians continue to be slaughtered at a rate that far exceeds the current death rate of the paleostinians who either kill themselves or leave others with no choice but to kill them in self defence. How cum leftholes never honestly ask themselves what they would demand from their government if a group of terrorists was constantly aiming rockets at their families? It must be great being a lefthole; you never have to think. You just wait for the left wing intelligentsia to rationalize the actions of any anti-Western or anti-Judeo-Christian group and then pick up the lame talking points and blindly toe the party line. Useful idiots indeed.

  21. Ulianov/Iberia just left out a word:
    “400 plus dead Palestinian -soldiers- vs. 4 dead Israeli -soldiers-.
    He forgot to mention the Israelis only target known missile sites and known Hamas military (terrorist) targets. That Hamas puts these things inside mosques, hospitals, schools, homes with kids in them is not something under Israeli control.
    ulianov also forgets all the Israeli non-soldiers who have gotten hit lately. Somewhat more than four.
    ulianov is a textbook example of the kind of convenient memory that makes the Left everything it is.

  22. EyesWideShut, leftholes have an easy replacement for thinking. Invert the truth and run with it. Simple.

  23. I doubt all of these pictures are “fancifully posed pictures:
    Posted by: Raphael Alexander at January 2, 2009 3:31 PM
    I don’t think anyone here is idiotic enough to suggest that ALL of the pix are fancifully posed.
    C’mon, man, that the lamest lefty debating tactic there is: the “not all” _____ are ______.
    Thanks for the link. I especially enjoyed the one of the dozen or so dead “Palestinian Policemen” aka as Hamas terrorists who want not only all Israelis dead, but you too Raphael.

  24. Me No Dhimmi,
    If you care, I have several articles covering why I think Israel has the right to defend itself by any means necessary. Click on my link if you are so inclined.
    Oh, and, I’m not a lefty. But I did once make a left turn in my car.

  25. 400 plus dead Palestinians vs. 4 dead Israelis.
    Yep, it’s a mockery alright.
    Posted by: ulianov at January 2, 2009 2:40 PM
    –Most of the (allegedly, mind you) dead 400 “Palestinians”, my dear Ulianov, are believed to be Hamas terrorists, not necessarily civilians (as alleged by Pallywood sources). Further, according to Debka File, the Hamas terrorists have traded in their terror apparel and donned their fake-innocent “civilan” rags, in anticipation of IDF ground forces’ coming to get them. You know, posing as civilians amongst civilans whilst acting as combatants is a war crime, and of that, Hamas is guilty. Besides, my dear Ulianov, Hamas deliberately placed their warmongering apparati directly within densely-populated-by-innocent-civilians areas, fully aware that this would eventually bring forth retaliation that would almost certainly take non-targeted collateral casualties as well as actually-targeted enemy-combatant casualties.
    As for the MSM, what does one expect? They will, with arrogantly reckless impunity and delusions of entitlement, post pure, unadulterated lies from known liars. And I, a mere part-time, hardly-so-well-known, blogger, have been slammed for simply linking to other sites who mistakenly posted stuff without first scrupulously verifying the claims and vetting the claimants… well, I’m but an amateur, of course, not a big-time, Big-Media giant who knows better…
    The Big Media is all too happy to take Pallywood propagandists’ lies as if credible accounts by scrupulous sources as if they were already proven to be without bias and without agenda. What is the Big Media, anti-Israel/anti-Semite, then? Fingers need to be pointed at Big Media as well as the Hamas/Pallywood propagandists, who would very much impress infamous propagandists.
    Anyone who automatically believes what “Palestinian sources” and the Big Media, who give them their voice, say about what Israel allegedly has done to “Palestinians” is to be considered a dupe.

  26. Raphael Alexander, thanks for the clarification.
    Glad to hear that you are an unflinching defender of Israel’s right to defend itself.
    However, I didn’t call YOU a lefty. I said it was a lefty construction, the “not all _____ are _____ which you used in that post.
    Odd, tho’, that as a strong defender of Israel’s right to defend itself, you’d post a link from the uber-liberal Boston Globe showing gruesome pix of dead Israeli enemies.

  27. Don’t ask me why, but I was watching the Ceeb the other night and they had footage of Pali kids in the hospital with blood streaming down their faces. You could see from a mile away that the parents had used the old wrestling trick – one quick slash with a razor to the scalp and out gushes the blood. I guess they watch the WWE in between viewings of the Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion.
    Next clip, the Ceeb had a “live” explosion of an Israeli bomb! That’s right, some Palis just happened to standing around, someone just happened to have a camcorder, and the Israelis were kind enough to drop a bomb that had all the pop of a pack of firecrackers – enough to make some noise but not enough to do much damage. The staging was so lame, but the Ceeb dutifully ran it.

  28. AND
    the Hamass target not only Israeli civilians, they also target palestinians Christians crossing over to the west bank at Christmas time
    makes one wonder about the leftards morals when they ignore these facts

  29. Ok,ulianov, you caught me. Hamas doesn’t actually have soldiers. They have half trained killers who couldn’t beat a troop of Boy Scouts in a stand-up fight.
    The Israelis, they have soldiers.

  30. Me No Dhimmi,
    Sorry, I misunderstood you. Also I was not aware that Boston.com is liberal publication, but I do think their photography blog is phenomenal. Anyway, I recognize that Hamas fakes civilian casualties, and that’s unfortunate since it makes it difficult to distinguish between the real ones.

  31. How do you tell a soldier from a civilian? They’re being taught to hate the Jews, almost from birth. There can be no bloodless resolution to this situation.
    What really astounds me is that most of the Gazan workforce is employed in Israel. The rest live off humanitarian aid. Not a lot of redeeming social qualities in that little strip of land.

  33. Ulianov – accept it. Its a good old fashioned Israeli ass-kicking. Exactly what Hamas deserves and I hope they don’t stop until every one of those terrorists are with their 72 virgins.

  34. ulianov — let’s see some proof there’s 400 dead in Gaza at all. For some reason, I have some difficulty accepting “official” Hamas estimates.
    Remember the Jenin non-massacre?

  35. What really astounds me is that most of the Gazan workforce is employed in Israel.
    That’s why so many Pali claims to a “right of return” are phony. Many so-called Pali fore bearers came to the area from surrounding Muslim countries as the Jews provided a means of living as they improved the land and introduced industry (Arafat btw was an Egyptian). The claims of their descendants to the land are fraudulent.

  36. MSM must have this wrong. It should read “target” Israel, shouldn’t it?
    Why is Egypt walling out the Gazan Arabs? Why protest Egypt’s wall? Isn’t Egypt a Muslim nation?
    If it’s correct, as MSM would put it; It’s a landmark, a breakthrough, a looming threat to the “Middle East peace process” and the “Israeli military clampdown”.
    …-
    “British protestors target Egypt over Gaza conflict
    AFP – 31 minutes ago
    LONDON (AFP) – Protestors rallied outside Egypt’s embassy in London on Friday, urging Cairo to open its border with Gaza, in the latest in a week of demonstrations here over the Israeli military clampdown.”

  38. Excellent insight on why native born muslims seem to cause trouble by George Jonas;
    “We accept being outsiders in someone else’s country more easily than in our own, and we regard the country in which we’re born as ours (with considerable justification, I might add.) That’s why, if unassimilated “diverse” communities produce misfits, malcontents, traitors or outright terrorists, they’re more likely to produce them in the second or third generation. The jihadist is the native son rather than the immigrant father. (“If you can’t join ’em,” one said when interviewed, “lick ’em.”)”

  39. “What an ugly post, ugly blog, and ugly blogger.”
    Posted by: Grossed Out
    It never ceases to amaze me how the leftist mind filters out reality and then becomes incensed when it’s exposed. What a strange little world, stored in a strange little mind.
    Even more strange, is that they come here of their own volition and lay blame. As if they’ve been forced.
    Odd creatures.

  41. Goggle “Palliwood”
    That is all any doubtful person needs to do and then see the evidence of the Palestinian media farce that is pulled over the worlds eyes and most importantly sympathies. This is not crying wolf – it is about lying to the world to meet an agenda 100%.
    If you can believe that one of these fictitious demonstrations is staged, then you can assume that the whole “plight” of the Palestinian people is a great dramatic work of fiction on the world stage!

  42. Well, I’m certainly not a ‘leftist’ but I disagree with most of the comments here. For once, I agree with ulianov.
    With regard to Egypt’s closure of the border, what I understand about the situation is that Israel would like Egypt to take over, to assume control of Gaza (ie, take over from either Hamas or Fatah or..). Egypt doesn’t want to do this. That would solve the problem of Gaza as part of a proposed Palestinian nation, i.e., it would become part of Egypt.
    Gaza, as a land base, a bit over 300sq km, has some arable land, but the closure of the Israeli borders to exports and most imports has reduced the economy to nullity, mostly small scale handcrafts and peasant agriculture.
    My guess is that what Israel would really like would be for Egypt to take over Gaza, while Israel settled all of the West Bank – with the Palestinians of the West Bank leaving for other countries.
    In other words, I don’t see any future for a Palestinian state.
    And again, for the zillionth time, Islamic fascism has nothing to do with the I-P situation. Each one would have emerged without the other.
    Islamic fascism emerged in the 19th c. as a reaction to the colonial style industrialization of the ME oil countries which, however, retained their tribal hierarchical control of the population rather than developing an empowered middle class. Islamic fascism seeks a ‘return’ to a pre-industrial state – an impossibility, but all utopias are impossible.
    The I-P conflict is over ownership and use of a land base. Nothing to do with tribalism, the lack of a middle class, or a return to a pre-industrial non-democratic era.

  43. “Son of Hamas leader converted to Christianity & now gives glimpse into Hamas (video embeds)
    Mosab Hassan Yousef was born the son of Sheikh Hassan Yousef, one of the most influential leaders of the militant Hamas organization in the West Bank. He converted to Christianity, moved to the U.S., and now provides the world an inside look behind Hamas.
    (Excerpt) Read more at darkskiesblog.com …”
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2157838/posts

  44. And again, for the zillionth time, Islamic fascism has nothing to do with the I-P situation.
    And maybe by the baz-zillionth time you’ll get it through your thick head that it has everything to do with it, and that Islam has been fascist from Day 1.

  45. maz2, thank you. That was an amazing article, maybe because it follows my thinking, that the situation in Israel has become unreal and nobody seems to know why they are fighting- hatred on all sides with a total lack of empathy for the other position or experience.
    Please, all of you who have commented on the Gaza situation, read this article. Those who seek to fully blame the other are the true obstacles to peace.
    Very formidable obstacles, I must add.

  46. from: Moral Clarity in Gaza
    By Charles Krauthammer
    Friday, January 2, 2009; A15
    “Late Saturday, thousands of Gazans received Arabic-language cell-phone messages from the Israeli military, urging them to leave homes where militants might have stashed weapons.
    — Associated Press, Dec. 27
    Israel is so scrupulous about civilian life that, risking the element of surprise, it contacts enemy noncombatants in advance to warn them of approaching danger. Hamas, which started this conflict with unrelenting rocket and mortar attacks on unarmed Israelis — 6,464 launched from Gaza in the past three years — deliberately places its weapons in and near the homes of its own people.
    What ensued (after Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005? This is not ancient history. Did the Palestinians begin building the state that is supposedly their great national aim? No. No roads, no industry, no courts, no civil society at all. The flourishing greenhouses that Israel left behind for the Palestinians were destroyed and abandoned. Instead, Gaza’s Iranian-sponsored rulers have devoted all their resources to turning it into a terror base — importing weapons, training terrorists, building tunnels with which to kidnap Israelis on the other side. And of course firing rockets unceasingly.
    The grievance? It cannot be occupation, military control or settlers. They were all removed in September 2005. There’s only one grievance and Hamas is open about it. Israel’s very existence.”
    But the ulianov/ETs of the world think it is Israel’s fault that the Arabs have not done anything with the greenhouse industry, etc. How could those victims of Zionism possibly get busy with their own nationbuilding?
    What exactly is wrong with the Arabs of Gaza being part of Egypt? They were part of Egypt from 1947-1967 and no one was shouting for them to have their own state or charging Egypt with denying them their rights to statehood?

  47. The I-P conflict is over ownership and use of a land base. Nothing to do with tribalism, the lack of a middle class, or a return to a pre-industrial non-democratic era.
    Posted by: ET at January 2, 2009 6:47 PM
    ET, I enjoy your postings on SDA, and generally agree with your analysis, but I think in this case you may want to re-think matters.
    It occurs to me that you are nominally correct that the I-P conflict is not steeped in Islamic Fascism. However, I posit that the I-P conflict has been hijacked by Islamofascist interests and the two are now irreparably joined. Were the situation in Gaza solely about use of a land base, one would think that Gaza, now three years after the Israeli departure, would be something resembling a nascent nation-state by now.
    Instead, we see the situation in Gaza as bad as it’s ever been, primarily due to the influence of the Iranians, fighting a proxy war through Hamas.

  48. Ulianov; stop and think about what you just wrote.
    In effect you’ve published proof that there IS NO Zionist conspiracy and especially that (we) Jews DON’T speak with a single voice, and that there is no pro-Israel seamless control of the media. Certainly not in Canada.
    My sister and her family, for the first time in my memory, are now within missile range of the homicidal psychopaths of Hamas, so you’ll pardon me if I regard your opinion with the disdain it so richly deserves. Ashdod.
    http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=31.788614,34.830194&z=8&t=h&hl=en

  49. Canadian Sentinel:
    I find it amusing how you and other right whingers complain about pro-Palestinian bias in the media when Canwest is owned by the Aspers and the CEO of CTV Globemedia’s is Ivan Fecan. Zionists with a pro-Palestinian agenda?
    Posted by: ulianov at January 2, 2009 7:07 PM
    –Well, Ulianov, I wonder if you’d call George Soros a “pro-Israeli” and an “anti-Palestinian”, then, seeing as he, too, is Jewish? Ditto Noam Chomsky?

  50. ex-liberal, thanks for the link and for your excellet contributions to this debate.
    Here’s a similar piece.
    Dershowitz: Israel, Hamas, and moral idiocy
    I always try to counsel doubters to not dismiss Dershowitz because he’s a Jew. He’s a VERY liberal Jew, a Harvard prof, a man who is not afraid to criticize aspects of Israel’s behaviour in the conflict, esp. the issue of the “settlements”. His book The Case for Israel is must reading.
    ulianov said:
    I find it amusing how you and other right whingers complain about pro-Palestinian bias in the media when Canwest is owned by the Aspers and the CEO of CTV Globemedia’s is Ivan Fecan. .
    This, gentle sir, is a grotesque fallacy — that Jews are necessarily Zionist. Far from it. For example, Noam Chomsky’s accolyte, the despicable Norman Finkelstein, is a rabid Israel-Zionist hater despite his parents being Holocaust survivors.
    Moreoever, most of the political, media, and academic elites of Israel are themselves “post-zionists”, unwitting (presumably) advocates of Jewicide.

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