Good evening ladies and gentlemen, welcome to SDA Late Nite Radio. Tonight, for your delectation and pursuant to our Tuesday night vintage music show, here are Harry Reser and his Syncopaters performing Shaking the Blues Away (1927, 2:49).
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Wow. Paul Zed was just on the National about Iggy. It was eye openingly disgusting that this is nothing but elite hero worship.
Zed went on and on about how Iggy is related to all of these old time big shots and uncles who wrote books and that Iggy is a storyteller so he can inform all of us oh so stupid and ininformed Canadians about what it really means to be a Canadian.
Too bad Iggy’s stories about Canada have a 30 year gap and are not first hand experiences until 2005 when he graced our little colonial country with his royal blood to come and lead us out of our oblivion.
They act like he’s the new Obama – a 60 something white guy with book read theories and, as Zed said – a professional speaker by gosh.
And the media is lapping this blue blood snobbery right up. Maybe we really are still the colonies?
Another question about Iggy. I know that his wife is not a Canadian citizen. What ocuntry is she from? Does anybody know?
Iggy’s Christmas: http://pelalusa.blogspot.com/2008/12/iggys-christmas.html
[ A Canmore man has been convicted of uttering threats against Prime Minister Stephen Harper on a politically motivated Internet blog.
Provincial court Judge Judith Shriar, in a written judgment released Monday, said Patrick David Fenton, 27, intended his posts, written two years ago, to be taken seriously, even though she did not believe he intended to carry out the threats.] Calgary Herald
Next up, Scott Reid ?
The G&M’s pulling the page is not a defense.
“You had an option, sir. You could have said, ‘I am not going to do it. This is wrong for Canada, and I am not going to ask Canadians to pay the price.’ You had an option, sir–to say ‘no’–and you chose to say ‘yes’ to the old attitudes and the old stories of the Liberal Party. That sir, if I may say respectfully, that is not good enough for Canadians.”
Guess who said that?
Applies very accurately to Iggy don’t you think? Like dogsh?t stuck to your boot, his role in agreeing to the coaliton will never leave him – he is doomed as leader now.
There is a character in the play The Vertical Hour by David Hare which is partly based on Ignatieff (the play with a subplot about the Iraq war was in London and later on Broadway with Julianne Moore and Bill Nighy).
An interviewer with Hare made the following comments: “So, Mr Hare, tell me about The Vertical Hour. “It’s a play about a liberal intellectual who supports the war.” You mean like Nick Cohen or Christopher Hitchens? “Actually, I was thinking more of Michael Ignatieff.” Really, the long navel-gazer who, even for a Canadian, has had a conspicuous humour bypass? Why would you care what he thinks? The play first appeared on Broadway at the end of 2006, and was a qualified success. Sources close to the production told me that while Bill Nighy had been rivetingly brilliant, Julianne Moore had had trouble grasping and inhabiting the text.
This is Hare’s second play about the war in Iraq.”
From CG’s comments section (by a Liberal):
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He also did his Phd there, so it is 9 years. Calling him American misses the point. The point is that he is not Canadian. He left the country around 1968, and save for two years (1976-1978) lived elsewhere until 2004.
Ignatieff’s adult children are not Canadian, his wife, I believe, is not a Canadian citizen. Why does that matter?
I think it matters where you are when something happens (just look at how inaccurate foreign reporting of the current political crisis is). In most of the formative events of the past 40 years, Ignatieff has not been here. He was not here during the summit series. Not here during the 1980 referendum. Not here during the repatriation of the constitution. Free trade debate? Nope. Meech? Nope. 1995 referendum? Nope.
Secondly, it matters because if he screws up as Prime Minister, he can always retire back to England or elsewhere. He doesn’t have the monkey on his back of thinking “what kind of future world am I creating for my children?”
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That paragraph about the Canadian events is money.
Ignatieff’s wife’s name looks Hungarian to me.
Hodge = Good point.
The only thing that I find hard to relate to is what F’n planet most of the Liebrals and Dippers come from, never mind what country they grew up in.
Yeah, I know..Why don’t I tell you what I really think.
It occurred to me this evening that I didn’t recall hearing from the CBC’s resident Village Idiot, Heather Mallick, on our constitutional crisis. Based on the low # of comments, apparently not many others are paying attention to her either. Before you peek at her latest editorial, take a wild guess which side she came down on!
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/12/05/f-vp-mallick.html
Unsubstantiated rumour: Iggy was apparently spotted in a Montreal restaurant last Sunday evening having a very hush-hush tête-à-tête with Duceppe and his BQ assistant. Of course, Duceppe and his aide were having difficulty understanding Iggy due to his accent being so different from Dion’s.
Eventually, the discussion turned to the question of who would be leading the Liberals when Parliament reconvened in January.
Iggy was quick to reassure them: “Don’t worry, mes amis. It’s in the bag.”
At which point, the aides was heard to exclaim:
“Merde! You Liberals are all the same!”
Marie;
I’m not sure where Iggy’s wife comes from. Eastern European of some sort I believe.
I think we give far too much credit to the progeny of successful people. While the old saying that the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree has some truth to it, it’s also true that the apple can roll a fair distance before coming to a stop.
Bob Rae is a classic example. In younger days he nearly bankrupted Ontario, and as if to prove he’s learned little since, now can’t seem to grasp the idea that toadying up with separatists is going to get a cool reception in most of Canada. Right up to the bitter end of having to concede to Iggy, the man just didn’t, and doesn’t, get it.
Is Iggy any better? Maybe, but I see little evidence.
Marie – I think that Iggy is on wife 2 – his first wife was English, I think.
GG!! Who cares where his wife is from? This is starting to sound like a Canadian version of the Barry O nirth cirtifict nonsense.
Iggy’s lack of any kind of presence in the country for around 40 years is a perfectly valid complaint. Where his wife was born? Well the lovely Mila Mulroney isn’t exactly a local is she?
There are so many ways to go after Iggy, why are some of you folks shooting for the low/stupid road?
As much of an a$$ Iggy is I think we should leaves his faminly out of these discussions.
Iggy’s wife does indeed have relavance with regards to possible governing of this country. Not to sound like a conspiracy nut but in the terms of security clearances, who do you suppose is the PM’s closest confidant? Of course having said that, there is nothing against having a PM’s wife be a rock & roll groupie either.
Gee, I just had a debate with myself…
Last night, the MSM crowned Iggy in a disgustingly saccharine, toady display of adulation: Fife on CTV and Paul Zed on the National.
Thanks, Vitruvius, for the zippy “Shaking the Blues Away.” We’re going to need it for the forseeable future.
For the record, Iggy’s second and present wife is Hungarian. He left his first wife, and has admitted in an interview (sorry, I don’t have the link, but it was posted at SDA awhile back) that it wasn’t a proud moment for him.
So, Canada’s Lieberals, who insist that they are the “party of the people” whereas the Conservatives are “the party of big business,” are delighted to court a Russian Count, to pamper his pedigree, and to inform the Canadian public that we should be oh, so pleased to have such an august presence among us as our Prime Minister.
The MSM is happy to go along with the charade of the Librano$ being the party of the people, even though Iggy was parachuted in from his ivory tower at Hahvahd and, essentially, stole the Lakeshore riding nomination from the candidate who had been duly elected in that riding and who had lived there all his life.
This guy is a parasitic cuckoo. You know those birds, that mauraud other bird’s nests? That’s The Iggster. Forget his pampered pedigree. This guy is an opportunist of the first-degree and now he’s got a coterie of so-called journalists who are really just a cabal of castrated clowns willing to sing the high notes as a paen to Iggy’s greatness.
Batten down the hatches. Pass the bucket. We’ve got some really rough seas ahead.
Rob C: I would generally agree with your thoughts about leaving Iggy’s family out of it. However, a reminder that the MSM have dragged them in. The MSM court jesters are the ones going on and on about his pedigree. Perhaps some counterpoint to their grovelling is appropriate.
Liberals are saying that Iggy was never too thrilled with the idea of a coalition.
It looks like his first move as their new leader may be to step away from it.
Iggy also signed his name to the request that was prepared by the coalition for the GG.
So… he wanted the coalition before he votes against it.
Well, that certainly clears up any confusion I harboured about his leadership and reliability attributes.
That didn’t take long.
Smells like Trudeau all over again.
To the ramparts !
Ignatieff is the unknown quantity the Liberals are quite prepared to go into the entrails of our democratic process to foist upon Canadians.
This should have us all deeply concerned.
In today’s National Post, two good columns :
“The Divine-Right-to-Govern Party” by Lorne Gunter
“Michael, we hardly know ye” by Kelly McParland.
We have no real idea what this Ignatieff person stands for. The Liberals have taken away the chance we have to hear him debate current issues by parachuting him into the leadership.
He’s simply a mystery in spite of what the desperate Liberals try to paint him he’s least of all qualified to steer the economy, for which he is less qualified than even Dion.
The sneaky slime running the backrooms of the LPC that and their new buzzwords will be “HE’S A QUICK STUDY”.
We may have to take to the streets to tell the Liberals we ELECT our Prime Ministers, we do not appoint them.
Marie,
Your typo is the best and funniest freudian slip I’ve ever read.
Headline on Drudge last nite.
“Rare Arctic Blast Sets Sights on Southern California” – Ventura Country Star
It mentions that in the next week Southern Califonia is going to get a blast of really cold air that only occurs once every 50 years.
That headline is gone this AM.
I guess they had to make more room for more ‘Crook’ County headlines!
For some reason, the article fails to mention that we may have gone thru a period of hot weather that also occurs only once every 50 or 60 years.
By the time this winter is over, some people might be crying FOR more global warming.
Marie,
Your typo is the best and funniest freudian slip I’ve ever read.
Of course, they’re going to spin that when Ignatieff said he was for the war in Iraq and torture, it was before; a different lifetime; he was a much younger man.
The problem is, he was at least 54. A good 5 years older than the PM is right now.
“The Harper chill factor
Canada is being ridiculed at a climate change conference in Poland, and delegates from all over the world are hoping our government will fall”
(nnw)
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“ECO WARRIORS SNITCH ON BEAVERS FOR ‘ILLEGAL LOGGING’
GREEN campaigners called police after discovering an illegal logging site in a nature reserve – only to find the culprits were a gang of beavers.
Environmentalists found 20 neatly stacked tree trunks and others marked with notches for felling at a beauty-spot in Subkowy, northern Poland.
But when officers followed a trail left by a tree which had been dragged away, they found a beaver dam right across the river as reported by the Austrian Times.
A police spokesman said: “The campaigners are feeling pretty stupid. There’s nothing more natural than a beaver.””
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2146100/posts
Maz2:
If true, that is a very funny story.
Tsar Mikhail Iggy will not meet Garter until he’s crowned in Petrograd, aka St. Mikhailaburg, Rooshia.
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“Hezbollah refuses to meet Carter
Hezbollah leaders have refused to meet former US President Jimmy Carter, who is on a two-day visit to Lebanon, a Carter spokesman says.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2146060/posts
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“Kofi Annan, Jimmy Carter refused Zimbabwe visas
22 Nov 2008 … Kofi Annan, Jimmy Carter refused Zimbabwe visas … President Robert Mugabe’s regime denied barring the Elders. “The government of Zimbabwe …
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/11/22/2427136.htm”
ctv’s love fest of Ignatieff has just begun as evident in last nites newscast.
From the I-Told-You-So Dept.
Critics say, O is Hussein.
>>>> This is a beauty of a line: “giving voice to an unusual name that was rarely heard during the campaign expect by critics.”
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“Obama to take oath using all three names (The start of Obama’s Muslim outreach program)
President-elect Obama says he plans to use all three of his names when he takes the oath of office in January, giving voice to an unusual name that was rarely heard during the campaign expect by critics.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2146046/posts
I propose an amalgamation of terms:
“Yellow Journalism”
and
“Main Stream Media”
“Yellow Stream Media”, anyone?
“As temperatures dropped, the wet roads froze over and turned treacherous.”
Global warming is winning the hearts and minds of Canadians in TO.
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“Treacherous, Icy Roads Lead To Dozens Of Crashes Including Major Pileup At 401 And Allen”
http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_29961.aspx
Ignatieff, the Liberal leader even the hard right can vote for:
“To defeat evil, we may have to traffic in evils : indefinite detention of suspects, coercive interrogations, targeted assassinations, even pre-emptive war.”
Ignatieff, the neo-con? This is going to be fun.
Daniel Pipes, Still asleep after Mumbai
Victims caught in terrorist atrocities perpetrated for Islam typically experience fear, torture, horror and murder, with sirens screaming, snipers positioning and carnage in the streets. That was the case recently in Bombay (now called Mumbai), where some 195 people were murdered and 300 wounded. But for the real target of Islamist terror – the world at large – the experience has become numbed, with apologetics and justification muting repulsion and shock…
Western denial: No. The fact that terrorist fish are swimming in a hospitable Muslim sea nearly disappears amid Western political, journalistic and academic bleatings. Call it political correctness, multiculturalism or self-loathing; whatever the name, this mentality produces delusion and dithering…
Scientists ready to rumble.
To be released this week… think the msm will pick it up?
UN Blowback: More Than 650 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims
Study: Half of warming due to Sun! –Sea Levels Fail to Rise? – Warming Fears in ‘Dustbin of History’
POZNAN, Poland – The UN global warming conference currently underway in Poland is about to face a serious challenge from over 650 dissenting scientists from around the globe who are criticizing the climate claims made by the UN IPCC and former Vice President Al Gore.
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=2158072e-802a-23ad-45f0-274616db87e6
What we have to understand is that the Liberal ideology is an elitist ideology; it is not an ideology ‘of and by and for the people’. It is a perspective that divides people into classes, with an elite class ‘naturally’ Ruling over a populist mass/morass.
The elite sector is made up of what in the 19th c we called the ‘landed gentry’; these are people who are ‘born to rule’; their income comes from non-trade sources such as the land. The modern version of ‘the land’ is ‘the government’. So, the modern ‘gentry’ are the government paid class, such as academics, education, healthcare, civil service. This SET of people are the Liberal elite.
Their perspective is that they, and they alone, know what is best for ‘the people’ who are in trade, who work on The Farm, who are in small to medium businesses etc.
Again, the Liberal ideology is NOT a populist perspective; it is elitist. Therefore, a leader such as Ignatieff fits in perfectly with this image. Perfectly. The MSM will emphasize his elitist superiority because that ‘proves’ that he has the right-to-rule.
The fact that he’s been out of Canada is irrelevant to his elistist supremacy. Watch what the MSM/Liberals will say; they’ll say that he’s been bringing ‘the Canadian perspective’ to Harvard. And now that Obama The Great is in charge in the USA, this link (and Obama went to Harvard) will actually be seen as embellishing Ignatieff.
The fact that he supported the Iraq War is equally irrelevant; that war is over and Iraq is succeeding in itself. And of course, the nature of his family, his wife, is irrelevant in itself.
I suspect he’ll even slither out of his signature on the Coalition – and that coalition was an outrageous assault on our democratic rights.
Again, Ignatieff fits in perfectly with the Liberal ideology, which is a 19th perspective of the nature of a Ruling Party. A Ruling Party has an inherent Right-To-Rule based, not on the appeal of their policies to the electorate, but on, well..that Right. Period. And that Right is symbolized by a titled leader. The Count.
A Ruling Party rules by divine right not by elections. When such a party is found within a democratic system that requires elections – this throws a wrench into the problem. The way to deal with this is by manipulating the people. You do this by keeping them dependent on your goodwill and ‘largesse’.
Subsidies to large industries; keeping small businesses out of competition with the large ones. Make-work projects funded by govt in other areas, keeping people dependent rather than starting up small businesses. Immigrants are isolated and kept dependent on govt grants. Subsidies to arts groups, women’s groups, the CBC and on and on. These strategies create dependent populations who will act as your electorate.
You subsidize them, and essentially ignore them except at the vote time, when you demand that they ‘pay the rent’ and vote for you. That’s the Liberal Way.
The fault line of the Liberal ideology, which sets up a Ruling Party rather than a Political Party – ie, a party that rules by divine right rather than by offering a set of policies – is that it can only function when in power. It needs access to the taxpayer money to keep the people funded.
However, since the Liberals set up these systems, the Conservatives cannot easily change the infrastructure. They can’t easily stop funding to the arts, the CBC, the isolate immigrant groups, the Bloc and so on….
The other fault line in the Liberal ideology is that it operates within a narrow population base, primarily focused around Ottawa-Montreal, and focused only around Ontario-Quebec. It simply hasn’t come to terms with the fact that the demographic and economic structure of Canada has changed from WWII – and has moved West. So, their focus is only around followers in Quebec and Ontario – and primarily – urban, where the landed gentry or govt funded workers live.
That’s still a large population base; we can’t ignore the number of seats held in Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver.
The question is – can Canada change? It set itself up within this elitist ideology after WWII, an easy task for it simply followed the colonial structure where Britain governed Canada. The Liberals operate this way. I doubt if they can change; their rhetoric doesn’t show this.
But what about Canadians? Can they move into a nation where the right to govern is decided by and for the people? The Coalition rejected this right. It was massively rejected by Canadians and even by some Liberals.
Now, is this evidence that Canadians, even Liberals, (not the MSM) are moving out of this postcolonial phase and are rejecting a party that operates as Ruler rather than as an Elected Government?
The article about Ignatieff to which I believe batb is referring was the very long one in the Globe and Mail, written by Michael Volpe.
Yes, Iggy’s second wife is Hungarian and is, apparently, about to become a Canadian citizen.
Re PMSH on The National, I’ve written a letter—again—to the CBC Ombudstoady. Pansbridge is a spoiled brat and no professional. The PM was dignified and not hounded off topic—despite repeated, harpy attempts by the pro-Coalition, CBC anchor. TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION! I cc’ed my letter to the PM.
I’ve also written Bob Rae about his arrogance and lack of propriety re having the audacity to publicly address the PM, “Time’s up, chum”. “Chum”, eh? I also cc’ed that letter to the PM.
Excepting PMSH and his caucus, what has Canada done to deserve such a bag of hammers at the top?!
Maybe ET has found the perfect tag to slap on Iggy’s back – Elitism.
“Born to Rule”, “Let them eat beer and popcorn”, “All bow to the LPC Sun King”, “Voting – How Quaint” or some other humorous line based on his own and the LPC’s elitism. I get the feeling that a man of his pedigree will not have the humility to take such mocking gracefully.
I have read that Iggy rarely makes eye contact. He will look at the desk or whatever but not eye contact. Hmm, I’ll have to watch for that.
Iggy = Jarome Iginla
Miggy = Michael Ignatieff
Priggy = PRince Michael IGnatieff
ET at 10:35AM: **But what about Canadians? Can they move into a nation where the right to govern is decided by and for the people? The Coalition rejected this right. It was massively rejected by Canadians and even by some Liberals.
Now, is this evidence that Canadians, even Liberals, (not the MSM) are moving out of this postcolonial phase and are rejecting a party that operates as Ruler rather than as an Elected Government?**
It’s evidence that some issues, like the coalition and the political party financing, are so obvious, even to an apathetic electorate, that no amount of MSM spin will obfuscate them.
I think that most Canadians have moved out of the “postcolonial phase”; but many Canadians don’t vote. The problem is not ideology, the problem is slumber.
The short term answer is for the Conservatives to continue with an aggressive strategy in the chess game. They must keep the electorate awake with bold moves surrounding gut-level issues leading into an early election.
When parliament resumes, the budget must include all of the measures that have been demonstrated to be popular with the sleepy (silent) majority and even some Liberals, but will offend the opposition. The opposition’s nose must be so totally rubbed in kaka that the “coalition of losers”, including the Bloc, has little choice but to rear its treacherous head and force an election based on the gut-level issues.
What have we got to lose?
Thanks, Charles MacDonald, I love Priggy: it suits that empty suit like a crown suits a prince!
With apologies to Joni Mitchell (and propriety!):
And the Liberals they go round and round
And the painted p[r]iggies go up and down
They’re captive on the carousel of time . . .
Oh, to return; but they can only hark back
To every stolen perq
And go round and round and round
In their circle jerk!
glasnost, my husband and I were just discussing this.
Yes, PMSH has to push back as hard as he can: the snake is wounded but still able to strike. This is not the time to offer it a reprieve.
Pansbridge tried to make the PM grovel about removing the party funding by the taxpayers. The PM held his ground and reminded him that this measure is overwhelmingly supported by the taxpayer. So, I say DO IT NOW! Back the opposition into another corner, a corner where the electorate is glad to have them, and let’s have an election!
Budget officer questions projected surplus
Page demands to see data used to support Flaherty’s prediction
By Kathryn MayDecember 10, 2008 “Canada’s parliamentary budget officer has publicly questioned the projected budget surpluses of the Conservative government’s recent economic statement and asked the finance department for evidence to back up such rosy predictions.
Kevin Page asked Finance Deputy Minister Rob Wright to turn over details on the projected spending reductions in departments and asset sales that the government has said will generate $10 billion in savings over five years. These are seen as key to the maintenance of a federal surplus. Mr. Page’s letter, sent on Dec. 3, has now been posted on the budget office’s website. It asks for a reply from the finance department this week.
He also asked for economic data and assumptions used for the 2008 budget and recent economic statement. The finance department refused to give the data for the 2008 budget, even though the numbers are routinely turned over to Bay Street forecasters….”
Uh oh. Page will be locked in the closet of the Library forevermore. While the Accountability Act installation of the Budget Officer was ham fisted and contrary to promises made by Harper – it’s good to see the office doing its’ job.
The money shot is how the Cons react to his request….if they are honest, they’ll be honest…
Yes, Charles MacDonald, Priggy is most fitting, he does have the air of a Prig.
Mao Stlong* say, my nephews, Boob $ John Lae*, full of castol oir. Iggy an Amelican beavel.
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“Rich nations plan “great escape” on climate: China”
http://www.reuters.com/article/reutersEdge/idUSTRE4B92UV20081210
*http://www.powercorporation.com/index.php?lang=eng&comp=powercorp&page=orgchart
Questions needing to be answered:
Will Iggy flux the Separatist Coalition by his ascendancy to the throne?
Will O use Hussein at his kOrOnatiOn?
Will O make it Over 200 lbs.?
Will Citoyen Dionky vacate Stornoway before Xmas Day?
TBA.
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“Ignatieff’s ascendancy places coalition in flux
Toronto MP Michael Ignatieff is set to be acclaimed federal Liberal leader today, after his chief rival and longtime friend Bob Rae bowed out after calculating he could not win a leadership showdown at a caucus meeting” (nnw)
Meanwhile:
“it appears that California will see some significant changes along with the many other parts of the planet.”
“JPL says: FORGET LA NINA: OSCILLATION RULES AS THE PACIFIC COOLS
10 12 2008
While I said a couple of days a go that “La Nina is back” it appears I mistook a strong PDO cool signature for the La Nina signature. As JPL’s Patzert says in the article below “This multi-year Pacific Decadal Oscillation ‘cool’ trend can cause La Niña-like impacts around the Pacific basin,”.
This PDO shift will be longer term event, and it appears that California will see some significant changes along with the many other parts of the planet. – Anthony (h/t to Allan)”
http://tinyurl.com/63m7w9 (wattsup)
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“CO2 is not causing warming or climate change.
It is not a toxic substance or a pollutant
Pre-industrial CO2 levels were about the same as today. How and why we are told otherwise?”
http://tinyurl.com/5a7ks9 (cfp)
(Includes pic of GOreacle & Oreacle)
By Dr. Tim Ball Wednesday, December 10, 2008″
Wednesday Morning: CKNW’s Bill Good is having an on-air verbal wet dream about Ignatieff. I think we’re witnessing the media creation of Obama 2. Yucccck!!!