Nevermind the new COMPAS poll out today. COMPAS: CPC 51, LPC 20, NDP 10, BQ 8, GPC 6
Let’s drive the Coalition Fantasy Tour into the wilderness proper. Rally For Canada is still a go, just check the link for information on events in your region.
Saskatchewan locations – Saskatoon City Hall and Provincial Legislature in Regina.

“Take Note on how many people are said to have attended the rally’s & Note to as who they interview when the Media do their report’s.” -bryanr at 5:01
That last part has always gotten right up my nose – the way the camera crews will scour the land looking for the one person in a thousand who will give them the quote they want. Or worse, totally fabricate an “interview” with a “typical” member of the crowd.
I’ve often wondered how effectively their guns could be spiked if small teams of people, armed with their own video cameras (and lots of spare batteries) were to simply follow the media’s camera crews around and record their every move, every word, and every interview. This would create a permanent record of what they actually encountered and saw and heard, for comparison with what they REPORTED as having encountered and seen and heard.
Even more useful in proving their biases would be the intra-team comments to each other as they seek out the prospective interviewee who best meets their stereotype profile. As too many politicians have learned, it’s what’s said when the mike is supposed to be off that can do the most damage.
It’s my guess that the typical camera crew wouldn’t have a clue that they were being monitored in this way – not until a few embarrassing videos end up on YouTube or some such.
And they can’t complain, can they? Sauce for the goose and all that ….
The location of the Rally for Canada in Montreal is Trudeau’s office? Heh.
Dear Robert W. re your post at 5:58 PM.
If you feel that making connection between a pro-democracy rally with a slap in the face of women is both despicable and disingenuous you have to take that up with NDP MP Irene Mathyssen.
http://lfpress.ca/newsstand/News/Local/2008/12/05/7642016-sun.html
Critics blast political rally on day for victims
Fri, December 5, 2008
By KELLY PEDRO
Holding a political rally on a day set aside to remember women who have been victims of violence is “a slap in the face,” a London MP charged yesterday.
An angry London-Fanshawe NDP MP Irene Mathyssen was joined by women’s advocates who also said rallies tomorrow to protest attempts in Ottawa to replace the Harper federal government with a coalition party are inappropriate.
“For them to use a day to remember our obligation to women . . . for their crass political purpose is beyond description,” said Mathyssen.
In London, a noon rally protesting the coalition is being held at the same time a ceremony remembering women who have been victims of violence is taking place at Brescia University College.
That’s disrespectful, said the event organizer Kim Young Milani, director of The Circle Women’s Centre at Brescia.
“Would you hold this on Remembrance Day?” she asked.
Ceremonies are held nationwide every year on Dec. 6 to remember the day an enraged Marc Lepine walked into Montreal’s l’Ecole Polytechnique and shot and killed 14 women engineering students.
In 1991, the government declared Dec. 6 the National Day of Remembrance and Action on Violence Against Women.
Megan Walker, executive director of the London Abused Women’s Centre, called the rallies’ timing “inappropriate.”
“It speaks to me about how insignificant Dec. 6 has become . . .” Walker said, adding she’d feel the same way about any political rally being held tomorrow. “The government has failed in sending the message Dec. 6 is a national day of remembrance.”……
Here is the link where you can share your opinions:
http://www.rightcrazy.com/
Nice to see organized labour being so active in supporting the coalition, just helps make it more clear who’s beholden to who.
When Jack talks about ‘working families’, he really means union working families.
Keynsian-style stimulative spending is not exactly an open and shut case.
Economic rocket scientist with proven track record Jack Layton and his waterboy Stephane Dion hope that their changealition creates enough “good-paying” jobs in Quebec to appease the Bloc Beast.
Lots of graphs and stats to help put our situation in Canada into perspective:
http://www.fin.gc.ca/ec2008/pdf/EconomicStatement2008_Eng.pdf
Will be my first rally evvah !
Rutland Centennial Hall
180 Rutland Rd (off Hyw 33)
Kelowna
12-2pm
Hey Snowbunnie welcome back haven’t seen you for a while. On the subject perhaps the reason that Ignatief has been keeping a low profile from this mess is because he spent a lot of his professional years in Britain. His academic fellows there may have warned him that to form a coalition without Royal consent is to conspire against the Crown. The constitutional experts here are playing up the the role of the Governor General as a referee. RIGHT! Well she just blew the whistle and called a time out. If the coalition want to govern that badly then they should have combined when they were legally able to do so. To form one after the election without Royal Consent is to subvert our whole parliamentary system. There are rules in every game and the three amigos want to throw them out the window. If the GG can’t explain the rules to these clowns and to all the pundits in the press and on the radio and television then the rallies tomorrow are only the start. See you in Victoria.
bryanr at December 5, 2008 5:01 PM
I saw a refernce to “thousands” for yesterday’s PSAC rally.
Where does PSAC get to determine who is the government?
COMPAS: CPC 51, LPC 20, NDP 10, BQ 8, GPC 6
Celine Stephane Dion:
Zees ess not fair! Do you know how hard eet eez to make zee priority?!
🙁
Here is Newman at the CBC/Pravda.
Your tax dollars paid for this propaganda.
Newman: “Prime Minister Stephen Harper is apparently like someone with a drinking problem who can keep it under control much of the time,”.
CBC. Fire. Them. All.
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“The coalition crisis and the lessons learned”
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/12/05/f-vp-newman.html
Karol, my apologies! But the way you worded your earlier post, it sounded like YOU were the one making that statement. May I add that I’m not surprised it is an NDP MP saying such a thing. Only a Radical Leftist would be so loathsome as to try to spin the sincere, heartfelt efforts of Canadians to come out on their day off to support democracy – as disrespectful to women.
Doug: I’m there with you, amigo! Guaranteed, the media will film 20 people. 19 will be in support of the recent actions of the GG but the one that will appear on the TV will be the Radical Leftist. The media are TRULY the worst enemy of Canadians.
Speaking of which, if/when Harper gains a majority I would love for him to either shut down CBC News altogether -OR- fire everyone and then rehire 50% of them and hire anew 50% of people who can prove that they speak for the rest of us.
The busloads of lefties (public employee union members and heavy smokers – you know, “working families”) will be out to draw the TV cameras. CTV and CBC have probably already decided which rallies they will broadcast.
Nicola, Yesterday I listened to Dave Rutherford when PMSH was speaking to the press about the prorogation of parliment.Dave made us listen to both the English and the French translations, the Prime Minister said EXACTLY the same thing in both languages.The reason Dave made us listen to both was so that we could hear both translations and make up our own minds without the MSM trying to spin things.They want us to believe that PMSH cannot converse in French. I believe that PMSH is fluent in both languages and does get his message across to both the English and French speakers. There is very possibly a regional accent that is coming into play with the language thing.He did say EXACTLY the same words in both languages. Sorry that argument about PMSH’s French does not work anymore. Dion is a fool who thinks he is too brilliant by half. He deserves all the ridicule we can give him.Why is it ok for a Quebecquois to speak fractured English but everyone who speaks English must also speak impeccable French? Your double standard is sticking way out.
I’ll be at the rally in Fredericton. I’m bringing my 10 year old daughter. Might as well bring’em up right. 😉
Citoyen Dionky’s World.
Last words from Citoyen Dionky’s printed version:
““I will serve my country until my time to serve is at an end,””.
Here are the ambiguities: Citoyen is referring to which country as “my country”? France, Canada, Quebec, the World, Dionky’s World?
>>>>> “The last sentence of the printed version of his address was omitted from the final recorded version, possibly for its ambiguity.”
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“Birth of a video: the miscues behind Dion TV address
By THE CANADIAN PRESS
OTTAWA — Stephane Dion’s grainy, amateur video address to the nation this week was the result of a series of miscues, from a broken camera to rushed, last-minute editing, insiders say.
The session was taped by one of Dion’s closest aides, Mick Gzowski, son of late CBC icon Peter Gzowski. His mother is the Liberal leader’s English-language trainer.
Gzowski is in charge of broadcast communications for the Liberal research bureau and recorded the address with a digital camera.
Insiders say an auto-focus button on the camera was broken, stuck in the locked position. As a result, the focus was on a bookcase behind Dion rather than on the Liberal leader himself, leaving his face slightly fuzzy.
The last sentence of the printed version of his address was omitted from the final recorded version, possibly for its ambiguity.
“I will serve my country until my time to serve is at an end,” says the last line in the printed version of the statement, released by the party an hour before the television broadcast.
That suggests some last-minute editing that may have delayed the production.
There was also confusion about just where to deliver the digital disc of the address, which delayed its arrival at the networks by up to an hour.
The party also did not meet a requirement to provide separate English- and French-language versions on separate discs for the television networks, which also delayed the broadcasts.”
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Politics/2008/12/05/7649821-cp.html
The CBC didn’t amend their policy for Dear Leader?
Pity
maz2 at December 5, 2008 8:11 PM
You know what to do. Write ombudsman@cbc.ca
maz2 at December 5, 2008 8:11 PM
You know what to do. Write ombudsman@cbc.ca
Latest from CTV tonigh as I write the “Sheit from H*ll” is facing off with Tim Powers. Sounds like a mouth piece for “Iggy Pop” if you ask me.
On another note Boob Rae is using the time to cris cross the country. According to the “media” his aim is to sell Canadians on the merits of the “Coupscate” gang. To me I think is is trying to sell the merits of “BoobScate”.
bverwey
Dear maz2,
Thank YOU for sharing that! This is the final straw for me with Newman. I’ve just launched a formal complaint against him: http://pelalusa.blogspot.com/2008/12/formal-complaint-to-cbc-ombudsman.html
And encourage the rest of you to as well. Heather Mallick was censured. So the same can happen to Newman if enough people complain!
Dan, you will LOVE this: http://pelalusa.blogspot.com/2008/12/lest-we-forget.html
A future politician in Victoria perhaps?!? 🙂
Bob Rae said:
>>>>> “This coalition is not just a parliamentary combination. It reflects something that is happening in our country.”
Rae is advocating “replacing Mr. Harper with a new government of national economic unity”.
This is treason. Bob Rae is a traitor.
Rae is advocating the overthrow of Canada’s government.
Treason from Bob Rae.
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Rae’s Manifesto:
“Liberals won’t back down
bobrae.ca – 12/5/2008
With today’s prorogation, we as Liberals now must carry on our fight outside of Parliament. We must continue in the hopeful and positive project of creating an alternative government of national economic unity – a project that more and more Canadians are supporting each day.
Our coalition can defeat the Harper government when it returns with a Budget on January 26. We need to continue driving towards bringing down this Prime Minister, who has utterly lost the trust and confidence of Canadians, and of the House of Commons they elected.
We will continue our fight for an alternative government with a alternative vision of how to respond to this crisis, and the means to mobilize a majority towards that purpose — on and off Parliament Hill.
This is not a new fight, but a different phase of the same one. From the day it was announced, I have spoken out publicly and privately in support of the coalition. I have done so sincerely and without reservation.
The coalition is under attack from a massive Conservative campaign which Mr. Harper has vowed to continue. In the face of this, I will fight even harder to persuade Canadians that the idea of replacing Mr. Harper with a new government of national economic unity is a sound, achievable and very positive one for this country at a time of grave economic challenge.
This coalition is not just a parliamentary combination. It reflects something that is happening in our country.
This polarizing PM has lost the trust of the nation at a critical time. And what’s happening as a result of this is bigger than Stephane Dion, bigger than me, Michael Ignatieff or Dominic Leblanc. In some senses these events have become much larger than the Liberal Party.
The Canadian people, and their representatives in parliament, do not trust this Prime Minister in this crisis. We need to work with the majority of citizens of all kinds to bring their will into parliament.
Our ideals, our values and our vision of Canada are under direct attack. We have a majority of the people of this country behind us.
It is now up to the Liberal Party of Canada to assert its historic role in building and leading the progressive centre in our great nation. My pledge is to help bring together all who share these values.
We will do this together”
http://stevejanke.com/archives/279259.php
According to the Winnipeg Free Press, Sideshow Bob will be in Winnipeg tomorrow from 10 am – 12 noon Winnipeg time. If the Free Press reporters can pull themselves away from their latest street fight with question asking members of the public, then perhaps they’ll report on it. They’ll send Porky Pig to cover it.
Your humble correspondent may go, and then report on the proceedings. I promise to bring my usual unbiased verbal stylings to the proceedings.
I’ll be freezing my but off at the Saskatoon Rally. If someone brings coffee i’ll bring the baileys!!
I’ll be at the rally in T. dot. Booya kasha!
Rutland Hall in Kelowna tomorrow…I’ll be there with my big old Maple Leaf flag.
Based on the opinion polls Canadians seem to be united about several things:
(1) Harper majority;
(2) No taxpayer nipple for Baby Bob & Friends;
(3) Tell Quebec that we cut off their allowance and they don’t get unlimited gas allowance on the family car. They’ll have to start paying some freight.
Charles Adler was discussing Bob Rae’s upcoming journey with a guest today. They both think he’s on a political suicide mission. As Adler said, “For someone who is supposedly so smart, he has the absolute worst political instincts of most anyone I’ve ever met!” (Paraphrasing)
“They both think he’s on a political suicide mission”
Tomorrow’s Bob Rae meeting in Winnipeg should result in chants of Tora, Tora, Tora!
“It is strange how all our media has mentioned the poll results except the Toronto Star !!”
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Haha, I remember during the election T-Star did a poll that had the Tories at 40%. They put it on page A-26 or something. LOL.
I look forward to meeting with some like-minded Canadians here in flaky dipper-riddled Vancouver.
1. Anyone know where I can PU a maple leaf umbrella on short notice in the Lower Mainland?(I’m willing to leave a sizeable carbon tireprint driving to get it.)
2. Hardcore partisan twits that want to burn effigies of Dion and such, please stay the f*ck home.
“the Ontario Secondary School Teachers’ Federation sent a memo to all its members today urging them to attend a pro-coalition rally in Toronto at Nathan Philips Square at the same time as the Rally for Canada at Queen’s Park”
Apparently NDP MP Irene Mathyssen didn’t get the message. Will her outrage now extend to her pro-coalition compatriots?
Another Jack Layton conspiracy goes horribly wrong.
Canadian Observer,
Sounds like the type of thing you’d find in Gastown.
I’m looking forward to the rally in Calgary – City Hall, 11 a.m.
The pro-coalition group turned out about 100 on Thurs. evening. Very quiet affair, 2 CBC trucks and 1 Global. They did a lot of taped interviews, but I have to wonder what they do with all that stuff. The evening news didn’t seem to have much or anything. Present were one large Canadian flag and 3 small ones – which in itself is rather interesting. Also a couple of others like PSAC, Council of Canada.
I will be flying the Alberta flag, not the Canadian flag, at the rally for a couple of reasons.
There are many, particularly in Central Canada, who think that the appearance of a much stronger Alberta just could not/would not ever happen. In six weeks, and particularly if the coalition does not fall apart, the test just might come.
Premier Ed has to be getting a message that he is seen by more than a few to be simply to mellow while this crisis was going on. All he could muster was “relief” once prorogation happened.
By not flying the Canadian flag, I’m registering disgust for all that has been, and is still, going on in Ottawa. All the MPs had better give their heads a shake and come back on the 26th ready to govern in the best interest of Canada. If an election is deemed at this time, then so be it, it’s only another $300M.
Premier Ed says he has a plan but I’m sure that Albertans, in general, are also going to have/develop their own plan. What remains to be seen is how closely the two plans resemble each other.
My plan is simple – start invoking the Notwithstanding Clause on some key issues and begin taking more political/financial/judicial power for AB from the feds. Premier Ed isn’t putting his cards on the table right now.
It is not about separation yet – but it sure is about a much stronger AB. If this coalition does hold up for six weeks, then who knows.
I’ll be in London tomorrow noon, hope to see some familiar faces.
I want an election.
🙂
So PM Harper should resign? I haven’t seen this reported by any of the media. From the Compas poll comes this little shocker to put things in perspective for Ignatieff, Rae and the rest of the Liberal party:
“The Conservatives are benefiting from sharply higher confidence in Harper as Prime Minister in the present economic circumstances than in any of the Opposition leaders or prominent hopefuls, as shown in table 3c.
Table 3c: (Q7) Given the situation in the economy and in Parliament, in whom do you have the most confidence as Prime Minister?”
Steven Harper All-48 West-61 ON-53 QC-24
Michael Ignatieff All-14 West-8 ON-8 QC-29
Stephane Dion All-8 West-5 ON-9 QC 11
Jack Layton All-11 West-8 ON-12 QC-11
Gilles Duceppe All-3 West-1 ON-0 QC-9
I’ll be at city hall in Windsor, presumably facing down many of my Union ‘brothers’.
Can’t wait for the fallout at the plant next week.
I’m already on the outs with them.
Sorry, but I’m a Canadian above and beyond any job classification, community affiliation, and especially above union membership/ philosophy.
I’ll fight socialism and seperatism so long as these diseases exist.
Stay Strong.
Sam.
Canadian Observer: Check here: http://maps.google.ca/maps?q=vancouver+umbrellas
Just call them first thing to find out if they have them. If that doesn’t work then try those tourist many tourist shops on Robson, between Burrard & Thurlow.
Irene Mathyssen? Like, Irene Mathyssen of accusing-James-Moore-of-looking-at-pornography-during-Parliament fame?
58% believe that the coalition’s real or main motivation was a power grab ….
only 58%?! The Liberals will forgive anything when its a liberal doing it.
Anyone in the Windsor – Esex County area – rally 12 PM (noon) city hall square. We need you!
Dec. 6, 1941 – two days before the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbour in a misguided, illigal, grab for power, resources, land and money. We all know what happened to the Japanese. Are you taking notes Boob?
Correction – My comment should read the DAY before Japan attacked Pearl Harbour, without the prerequisite of an open declaration of war against the United States of America. Dec. 7, 1941. I can only imagine that Hitler and Stalin tore a strip off their ‘foreign’ Pal for that bungle; too.
PMSH has always reminded me of Sir Winston Churchill, without the pipe.
Correction – My comment should read the DAY before Japan attacked Pearl Harbour, without the prerequisite of an open declaration of war against the United States of America. Dec. 7, 1941. I can only imagine that Hitler and Stalin tore a strip off their ‘foreign’ Pal for that bungle; too.
PMSH has always reminded me of Sir Winston Churchill, without the pipe.
Anyone here going to be at the Saskatoon rally at City Hall? Unfortunately I have to work while the rally is happening. I would be there otherwise. Lets wipe these coalitionists off the map!!!
Melissa – I wish I could be there, but I have to work. DAMNIT!!!!
I have to work!!!!
There’s a thought, why not just “down tools” and everyone quit for the day. tell your employer it’s your civic duty, a sort of “call out the troops” day. If he/she doesn’t understand, they support the coalition, you’ll lose your job anyway.