“I Want To Know….”

(Bumped for the convenience of Charles Adler listeners. Newer posts below.)
Did you ever see the tape?
(mp3 – 1.4 meg)
Originated at CKLF-FM 94.7 Brandon, MB – the city with the only NDP MLA between Winnipeg and Regina … for now.
Editorial comment… It has occurred to me that some of my dear readers of the more sensitive Liberal persuasion might be, by now, disturbed at what could be perceived as a “piling on” over this latest public humiliation of Stephane Dion.
Of course, such an accusation would be absolutely true. The only advice I can offer you is to simply brace yourself and continue to take it until we become bored and move on to fresher sport.
Stiff upper lip, and all that.
(I’m tempted to invoke that famous Victorian encouragement to “lay back and think of the Queen”, but that would be cruel under the circumstances.)

104 Replies to ““I Want To Know….””

  1. Dreadful. Just dreadful. Both Dion’s spectacular self-inflicted gaffe and this … ‘singer’.
    lmao

  2. unfortunatly Brandon will have that NDP mla for some time. There are people in that riding that have voted NDP all their lives, when the election is called, they go into their attics and pull out NDP signs for canidates from 40 years ago. Sadly, I don’t think they even realize that guy is running anymore either.

  3. Awesome, true western canadian humour, love it. In Brandon we overwhelming support the conservatives federally. Provencially is sometimes a different story just like Saskechewan.

  4. This from John Ivison in the NP:
    “Word from the Liberal emergency caucus that is currently taking place:
    Ivison – “Is the coalition unravelling?”
    Liberal MP – “It’s coming apart at the seams.”

  5. I read a book a couple years ago by Jim Collins called “Good to Great”. One of the key traits I remember about outstanding company leaders is that they always set up the company for success long after they’re gone (They used Lee Iacocca from Chrysler as an example of the wrong way to do it). Having said this, has anyone else noticed a trend in the federal libs? Something like outgoing party leaders screwing over the party for years to come in order to satisfy some particular personal whim? In this regard, methinks Dion has some things he could teach Chretien.

  6. In a room full of 6 year old friends of my kid, some kid will yell “doggy pile on-insert name-!!!!” They drop the lego or hockey sticks and focus on that task in a manner far beyond their years.
    Comedy erupts. Nothing funnier.
    I so see Dion on the bottom of that pile right now

  7. “they go into their attics and pull out NDP signs for canidates from 40 years ago”
    Wonder if they would still vote for Layton et al if they kniew in advance he would drop his key policy planks just so he could butt-kanoodle with the Bloc and play second fiddle to Liberals ?
    No tax relief for business
    Drop opposition to Afghanistan operations
    Accepting only 25% of Cabinet seats – and none of them financial ones – despite having almost 50% as many seats as Dion (37 vs 77)
    Layton sold out the NDP voters so he could enjoy personal power.

  8. Liberal trolls, please report for duty here, where PM-in-waiting Dion’s performance is lauded by the faithful.
    Best line: “put the ring on the Bloc’s finger”.

  9. Let me get this right, the Liberal Party did not have a teleprompter so Stephane had to read from a laptop and look totally ridiculous. Some coalition, you would think one of the other parties might have lent them one????
    (To those who have seen this before, sorry for the repeat, I posted to the wrong thread the first time)

  10. OK…let’s try this again; I resume everyone has heard about LIB MP Karygiannis?
    http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5gKkHKYuHREK_tpDtulb7xUdKqt1Q
    Liberal resolve to bring down the Conservative government is already starting to crumble.
    Within an hour of Prime Minister Stephen Harper winning a two-month reprieve, some Grit MPs were pulling back from the idea of trying to replace the Tory regime with a Liberal-NDP coalition propped up by the Bloc Quebecois.
    Toronto MP Jim Karygiannis says the coalition idea is finished and is calling on Stephane Dion to resign the Liberal leadership sooner rather than later.
    If this is a duplicate or it is posted elsewhere, my apologies as I had considerable difficulty posting before.

  11. Snowflakes on Rideau and votes of division,
    Tapes that were cobbled together by children,
    Liberal MPs about to take wings,
    These are a few of my favourite things;
    When the writ drops,
    When Dion flops
    More and more in the polls,
    I like to watch as Ignatieff grins
    and Bob Rae considers new roles.
    Harper on TV like somebody’s uncle,
    Layton always there like some old carbuncle,
    Somebody haul out an old rusty crock,
    We just might need one to sautee the Bloc.

  12. Dion Dion. Yes yes, we all know. Always did.
    But what does this say about all who knew him well in the past ?
    Wiki;
    [ Dion was involved with the sovereignty movement, first as a teenager attending a Jesuit college in Quebec City,[7], and later as a university student campaigning for Parti Québécois candidate Louise Beaudoin in the 1976 election.[8] Mr. Dion described his experience as follows:
    Because the party was there… I wanted to challenge my dad… the way to become an adult sometimes is to say the contrary to your father. Each evening, I would try out a new argument I had heard on the separatist network and my father was demolishing it… My father very quietly and very respectfully was refuting me, without insulting me. ]
    Should have.
    [ ” I was sitting at my computer at 11 o’clock, and, at noon, I had a text that was so interesting that the Americans wanted to publish it. It was on that day that I realized I was truly a federalist.” ] Dion
    Dedication – easy come, easy go ?
    [ In anticipation of by-elections in early 1996, Jean Chrétien appointed two new “star candidates” from Quebec – Stéphane Dion and Pierre Pettigrew. ]
    Thank you thank you Jean Chretien !! Poor character judge, are you ?? Sure hope other countries we’re not watching last night.
    Say !! Was it not also JC who came up with this bright idea !? – a coalition.
    [ Chrétien felt safe in appointing Dion to Cabinet because Dion was slated to run in Saint-Laurent–Cartierville, the second-safest Liberal riding in Quebec.]
    Ahawwww, that explains it !!
    [ On December 2, 2006 at the Liberal Party leadership convention, Dion finished third after the first ballot, garnering 17.8% of the delegates. After the second ballot, Gerard Kennedy threw his support behind Dion. Earlier, the two leadership contenders had allegedly struck a pact in which the first off the ballot would throw his support to the other.]
    SO – Dion has made deals before ! Sneeeekee.
    And Dion goes on to win the LPC Ledership with 54.7 % of the votes cast.
    Think about this. Hundreds of Liberal delegates made a conscious effort to pick this guy as a leader – not only of the Liberals but potentially the leader of a First World Country.
    Says a lot about the party make up.

  13. I must say this coalition posturing is a bit much for our democratic Canada. Their eagerness to replace Harper whatever the cost is obvious, and will certainly be short-lived come next election. I am in genuine disbelief that the libs and ndp have been flirtatious with the bloc, resulting in this udderly distasteful ménage a trois.

  14. I must say this coalition posturing is a bit much for our democratic Canada. Their eagerness to replace Harper whatever the cost is obvious, and will certainly be short-lived come next election. I am in genuine disbelief that the libs and ndp have been flirtatious with the bloc, resulting in this udderly distasteful ménage a trois.

  15. unraveling . . . .
    “Thursday, December 04, 2008
    Liberal MP Jim Karygiannis says coalition is finished, Dion should resign
    And then there were two.
    After emerging from a closed-door meeting with the Liberal caucus, the MP for Scarborough-Agincourt Jim Karygiannis shared some critical words for the leadership and communication skills of Liberal leader Stephane Dion with the press:
    “The coalition — the way that we’re going right now — it won’t survive. I can’t see it surviving. We have somebody who can’t communicate and someone who can’t communicate, its hard, its very hard…
    “My French is limited. But I can tell you one thing: if I can communicate in English, I can communicate in English. If you can’t communicate to the other 60 percent of the people when they listen to you — and its a terrible speech and we bombed in the election. Well it says it right there, we bombed. We went from 96 seats to 76 seats…
    “I know the NDP are vicious, and vicious when it comes to electing people of Parliament… It’s not that I have mistrust of the NDP, I just think we need a better communication’s person. Our communication sucks, it was shown last night. What else is there to say? ”

  16. I “published” this on Kinsella’s blog @ 4:25 EST – so we will see.
    ————-
    If I have this all straight;
    In anticipation of by-elections in early 1996, Jean Chrétien appointed two new “star candidates” from Quebec – Stéphane Dion and Pierre Pettigrew.
    And
    Chrétien felt safe in appointing Dion to Cabinet because Dion was slated to run in Saint-Laurent–Cartierville, the second-safest Liberal riding in Quebec.
    And
    The Idea of a Grand Coalition was …. Chretien’s.
    And it all came crashing down in Rick Mercier fashion last night!!
    Poor HR manager ?

  17. Why did this coalition need three separate people — Borat, Taliban Jack and Duceppe– all commenting after Harper? Aren’t they one for all and all for one? Never mind the Liberal tape screw-up. They can’t even get out of the gate unified. This coaliton will unravel like a badly-knit sweater.

  18. Jack the Weasle seems to be getting off easy in this. J-weasle was after all the one who started the coalition talks with the Bloc. Dion seems to be getting the brunt of the criticism, I think people should cool it about Dion because he is more than capable of destroying himself.
    Kate I see you had a picture of a Nickle here yesterday was that a weaser or a beavle pictured on the coin? Just wondering.

  19. That Un-Scientific Poll over at ctv.ca
    Holding at 71% agree with the GG over 12,000 votes
    Just the other way around over at G&M.
    Surprise.

  20. capt_bob @4:31PM: The NDP never had much downside in this whole sordid affair. The only vote pool they could poach from was occupied by the Liberals, so for the NDP, this is a win, no matter what happens. If the coalition proceeds, they gain significant power (read: can hand out pork to their supporters and base, and feather some nests), if the coalition fails, the Liberals take the heat and leave an opening to take up at least the left side of the Liberal spectrum. There was really never a price Jack was going to pay for failure.
    That should have been part of Dion’s calculus and been a huge red flag – that someone is trying hard to sell me something risky, but they actually have no downside – but I am guessing that aspects of Dion’s character got in the way of rationality. A sad legacy to be sure.
    It’s the Liberals, and the Liberals alone that will take the beating for this, and well they should. They are trying to show the good old Liberal solidarity, but it’s quite obvious that their tried and true base, Liberal voters in Ontario, are outraged, and betrayed. They thought the Liberals represented stability and national unity. That’s gone out the window now. I live among this voting base, and am in constant daily, informal contact. Friends and neighbors. I tell you, the Liberals are going off to the Gulag of Quebec, where they can scratch out an existence with the Bloc. In my wildest dreams, I could not imagine such an intense and sudden meltdown.
    I actually hope that someone with their head screwed on straight splashes some cold water over the Liberals and snaps them out of it before its too late. The country is better off having an effective opposition that is not in the pockets of separatists, or petulant trade unions, than a complete meltdown and unipolar representation outside of Quebec.

  21. Let me see if I have this all straight.
    The NDP had already hatched a plan for a bloodless coup d’etat prior to the economic statement by Mr. Flaherty.
    It apparently didn’t matter that Canadians just voted and elected Mr. Harper. Mr. Layton doesn’t care that we just had a $300 million election.
    Mr. Dion announced his intention to step down, but the coup will put him into the Prime Minister’s office even though he got the fewest votes of any Liberal since Confederation.
    The Bloc Quebecois holds the balance of power and the key to government stability. Hang on, do I have this right? Mr. Duceppe is the defacto Prime Minister in this game of political monopoly?
    So, to recap:
    Mr. Harper won, but really lost the election. Mr. Layton lost, but actually won. Mr. Dion quit but is going to be Prime Minister. And Mr. Duceppe is laughing his backside off because he is the one who is really in charge of the stability of Canadian government while being committed to breaking up the country.
    Hmmm. I just wanted to make sure I understood all of it. Welcome to our new banana republic – land of the political wing-nuts.

  22. Dion’s speech, once it finally arrived, had me shaking my head in disgust. His English was, once again, barely comprehensible. And he was almost fevered in his presentation, babbling on like some kind of religious zealot trying to sell his holy war to the masses. He reminded me of that scene in the Blair Witch Project, where the girl’s face is filling the screen, her eyes filled with terror and desperation.

  23. Canadian politics is both obscure and inpenetrable to my US eyes. But. I know a four sentence Take Down and Lay ‘Em Out for the Butcher when I see one. Good God, Kate, that was so easily done I’d say that if the Three Penny Opera was being written today the Knife would be Kate. I may even frame this one for inspiration.

  24. “The country is better off having an effective opposition that is not in the pockets of separatists, or petulant trade unions, than a complete meltdown and unipolar representation outside of Quebec.”
    ~Shaken at December 4, 2008 5:12 PM
    The country has effective opposition.
    It’s called the MSM.
    It’ll take 20 years of back to back Conservative majorities to reverse the social engineering and pitting of identity groups and regions against each other that was the road to power for the Trudeaupian Communists.

  25. ” Mr. Harper won, but really lost the election. Mr. Layton lost, but actually won. Mr. Dion quit but is going to be Prime Minister. And Mr. Duceppe is laughing his backside off because he is the one who is really in charge of the stability of Canadian government while being committed to breaking up the country.”
    Good one !!
    Spin your way out of that, Oliver and Newman

  26. Taliban Jack is a traitor to his Tory father, his country, and his party. I wonder if the Taliban will take him.

  27. I find it funny that some are casting aspersions of Harper as a leader. Dion has about as much backbone as a Muppet. There hasn’t been a symbiotic relationship this closely since Frank Oz and Miss Piggy.

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