107 Replies to ““Can I Call You Joe?””

  1. I thought Palin did just fine. I’m reading the NatPost running commentary – what has happened to Diane Francis, it’s like she lights her hair on fire when Palin is mentioned. I used to enjoy her columns, not so much anymore. Anyway, thats off topic – good job Sarah Palin.

  2. Sara’s back in the ball game and tonight she hit another home run. This, despite the fact that old Joe did a very fine job. Now, watch as the lefties in the MSM and elsewhere again go apoplectic, right through the roof and into orbit.

  3. Palin put the haters in their place. She schooled Biden, kept him on the defensive most of the night, and connected with people who actually like America the way it is meant to be. She’s the only good thing about McCain’s pathetic campaign.
    Diane Francis and Margaret Wente have gone off the deep end lately. What happened? Barbara Kay, Christie Blatchford, and Rosie DiManno will have to carry the torch.

  4. Kate,
    She kicked Joe’s butt, he missed HER statement that Obama opposed Energy Independence. The US Embassy been built in Jerusalem seemed to catch Joe by surprise (me too)
    Joe looked bad in his camera shot, old and squinting. Makeup FU
    Funny thing on CNN. They had a focus group and when the group were asked if the debate had changed anyone’s mind, hands went up for Obama.. The Moderator asked an elderly Lady why she was now voting for Obama. She said the Man (Joe) was just terrible and that the Lady was better & smarter.. CNN cut the interview when they realized the lady was confused.. I suspect some PA (Production Assistant)is in trouble.

  5. Thank you Kate for the link. I did not watch the debate so I enjoyed reading the transcript. I was reminded that what Sarah Palin reflects is the old fashioned idea that hard work and free enterprise really is the best way for the most people to get ahead… I think thats why she connects with so many people. She will be mocked and ridiculed by the chattering class that wants to talk and philosophize (ad nauseum) but she will be embraced by that element of the electorate that recognizes that nothing in life is free, everything has a cost and personal responsibility is necessary if the Western World is to prosper and survive. Good on her!

  6. Watched fox’s post-debate coverage. It looks like Biden made about one falsehood/mistake/gaffe every two minutes (i’m being serious, he made lots of them) the final tally probably won’t be known until tomorrow.
    My fave: when he was talking about the balkan crisis he was trying to impress by listing off the various opposing sides he called Bosnians “Bosniaks” – it’s in the transcript even. a classic example of a guy who cannot run herd over his tongue.

  8. Do you get the sense that after this election,
    the media is going to wake up with one nasty hangover, flip up the sheets to find Obama next to them in bed, and regret drinking the spiked election punch?

  9. As for Ifill’s conduct I not so sure it was as even-handed as you think Kate. apparently she cut off debate at opportune times for Biden and praised his service/experience at others – but the coup ‘d grace is that she let Biden begin AND end the debate.

  11. Biff,that was kool-aid ,not punch. Joe is probably screeching at his handlers.” Didn’t anyone notice that the ‘little woman’had balls under her skirt,OMG,Obama’s people will be so mad,damn you John McCain”.

  12. Bosniac/Bosniak was not a gaffe, I heard the term fairly often while I was there. I don’t remember if it’s used to refer to all Bosnians or only muslim Bosnians. Although we call them Croatians and Serbians, the other ethnic groups refer to themselves as Croats and Serbs.

  13. I think Sarah Palin is a classy, likable lady but this: “We need to make sure that we demand from the federal government strict oversight of those entities in charge of our investments and our savings” is just plain pandering to the Statists.
    Yeah, like I truly want and need even more government meddling in te financial decisions of private citizens.

  14. Is that what they call tough in Scranton, PA.? Post debate I think Joe Biden has a new nickname.
    Moose. For obvious reasons.

  15. “Moose. For obvious reasons.”
    Sarah “hunts” moose. Biden was just roadkill tonight.
    The MSM is what got shot by Palin tonight. Very well done.

  16. Well, according to the CNN post game show I watched a minute ago, Palin did okay for a soccer mom but is not VP material. quel surprise, eh. Last night Fox gave a more balanced opinion but I’m sure the Dems wouldn’t be watching that.
    From the snippets I saw she came across as a real and honest person who wants to clean up the crap in Washington but I guess that is not what some people want.
    btw, almost every time I surfed over to the US debate Biden was speaking. Was it my bad luck or was the air time balanced?

  17. The term “Bosniac” is used to refer to Bosnian Muslims. It started coming into more general use during IFOR/SFOR days.
    It would be a gaffe to use this term to describe Bosnian Croats or Bosnian Serbs though.

  18. I can’t say for sure because I was flipping back and forth, but Biden often asked and was granted opportunities to go outside the format and rebuff the last thing Palin said. It would have been interesting to see Ifill’s response if Palin had asked for the same courtesy (which she should have).

  20. It felt to me like Biden got more talk time also. I can’t be certain, and maybe it was a result of the format and length of answers, but it seemed like Biden got first word and last word on many questions. Ifill would return to him for his rebuttals and then move on to the next question without Palin getting a chance to call him on his lies.

  21. Just loved how Joe boy showed his overly white pearlies when he was being out-done by Palin and feeling a bit uncomfortable.

  22. Trust CNN to trot out a “poll” that shows Biden won the debate 51% to Palin’s 36%. They don’t say who conducted the poll, how many people were polled nor what the specific questions were. Quite predictable for CNN.

  23. daryl…you perceived correctly.
    Follow the links that Kate provides. You will find the whole debate script.Even if you don’t have time to RTWT, a quick scroll thru indicates Biden spoke more, had longer uninterrupted messages and went off topic more.
    Palin mastered the message by not rambling, more facts, more substance.

  24. [deleted – whoever is attempting to impersonate a well known commentor here – and I’m pretty sure I know who you are – can just stop, already. – ED]

  25. Sarah Baracuda ate Joe Biden’s lunch on live TV last night. She came across as a “real” person who is serious about what she says, Biden looked like a politician.
    As far as I understand her record, she DOES mean what she says. Biden’s record I know a lot beter, and he clearly will say any damn thing at all and means none of it.
    Joe Biden is out for Joe Biden, first, last and always. From what I saw last night, Sarah Palin is a pissed-off hockey mom with Washington big game hunting on her mind. I’d vote for her in a heart beat, whereas I’d sooner drink draino than vote for that plastic banana Joe Biden.
    In contrast, our “leaders” debate was a friggin’ FARCE. Harper looked like a bear dropped into a cage of weasels. I though Dion was going to cry when Harper said the Green Shaft was a tax increase. The best shot Taliban Jack could come up with was to insult Harper’s SWEATER?!!! Man, he hurled that beauty and I felt the thud when it bounced off Harper’s armor.
    What that whole thing came off like to me, admittedly biased as I am toward the CPC, was one reasonable man fending off four unreasonable nut cases who were trying to pick a fist fight with him in a bar. Layton particularly gave the impression of a stupid thug looking for a fight.
    Bottom line, I think those people are not normal and I don’t want them anywhere near government. If that’s the best this country can do for leaders, we are truly f-ed.

  26. Wow ET, surprising take from you. You didn’t like the Palin girlie?
    How did you like our fearless leaders? Did that look like a cage of rats attacking a cat or what?

  27. Joe Biden’s 14 Lies
    1. TAX VOTE: Biden said McCain voted “the exact same way” as Obama to increase taxes on Americans earning just $42,000, but McCain DID NOT VOTE THAT WAY.
    2. AHMEDINIJAD MEETING: Joe Biden lied when he said that Barack Obama never said that he would sit down unconditionally with Mahmoud Ahmedinijad of Iran. Barack Obama did say specifically, and Joe Biden attacked him for it.
    3. OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING: Biden said, “Drill we must.” But Biden has opposed offshore drilling and even compared offshore drilling to “raping” the Outer Continental Shelf.”
    4. TROOP FUNDING: Joe Biden lied when he indicated that John McCain and Barack Obama voted the same way against funding the troops in the field. John McCain opposed a bill that included a timeline, that the President of the United States had already said he would veto regardless of it’s passage.
    5. OPPOSING CLEAN COAL: Biden says he’s always been for clean coal, but he just told a voter that he is against clean coal and any new coal plants in America and has a record of voting against clean coal and coal in the U.S. Senate.
    6. ALERNATIVE ENERGY VOTES: According to FactCheck.org, Biden is exaggerating and overstating John McCain’s record voting for alternative energy when he says he voted against it 23 times.
    7. HEALTH INSURANCE: Biden falsely said McCain will raise taxes on people’s health insurance coverage — they get a tax credit to offset any tax hike. Independent fact checkers have confirmed this attack is false
    8. OIL TAXES: Biden falsely said Palin supported a windfall profits tax in Alaska — she reformed the state tax and revenue system, it’s not a windfall profits tax.
    9. AFGHANISTAN / GEN. MCKIERNAN COMMENTS: Biden said that top military commander in Iraq said the principles of the surge could not be applied to Afghanistan, but the commander of NATO’s International Security Assistance Force Gen. David D. McKiernan said that there were principles of the surge strategy, including working with tribes, that could be applied in Afghanistan.
    10. REGULATION: Biden falsely said McCain weakened regulation — he actually called for more regulation on Fannie and Freddie.
    11. IRAQ: When Joe Biden lied when he said that John McCain was “dead wrong on Iraq”, because Joe Biden shared the same vote to authorize the war and differed on the surge strategy where they John McCain has been proven right.
    12. TAX INCREASES: Biden said Americans earning less than $250,000 wouldn’t see higher taxes, but the Obama-Biden tax plan would raise taxes on individuals making $200,000 or more.
    13. BAILOUT: Biden said the economic rescue legislation matches the four principles that Obama laid out, but in reality it doesn’t meet two of the four principles that Obama outlined on Sept. 19, which were that it include an emergency economic stimulus package, and that it be part of “part of a globally coordinated effort with our partners in the G-20.”
    14. REAGAN TAX RATES: Biden is wrong in saying that under Obama, Americans won’t pay any more in taxes then they did under Reagan.

  28. Biden won under a couple of criteria. If you wanted to hear Democrat talking points, he said ’em, Palin didn’t.
    If you wanted to get the most unrefuted lies out there, Biden won hands down.

  29. As I stated before, you haven’t seen the real SP yet. She let the MSM show her as an airhead that wouldn’t be suitable as VP candidate. As of last night the common folks are starting to see that there is actually something underneath that hair that is worth listening to. The MSM is going for the “gotcha” moments and SP is going to be talking to the American people from her heart, something that the MSM lost a long time age. Now she has the ball and watch her run with it. She had Biden at the handshake and “can I call you Joe moment”. Who would of knew she knew so much about all this complicated policies. The people who she ran against from the town “Mayor” to the “Reps” and “Dems” in Alaska warned them, “DO NOT UNDERESTEMATE HER”. Didn’t have to listen, “she is just common folk”. Now its McCain’s turn.
    Harper cleaned up on the debate. He must go into a room at night and practice slamming lefties in cage matches. Used to watch Calgary Stampede Wrestling as a kid and see that Archie Goldie AKA “THE STOMPER” take on four Midgets, or for the political correct “Short People”. Of course the would put the run on him, good for the crowd draw but very little substance. Lets hope that the people see through the MSM reporting and put Harper in with a majority.

  30. {{{{DRUDGE POLL}}}} WHO WON THE VICE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE?…
    BIDEN
    28% 109,435
    PALIN
    70% 271,913
    NEITHER
    2% 6,728
    Total Votes: 388,076
    And from the gang over at LGF
    LGF Poll
    Who won?
    752 8.6% Joe Biden
    7,995 91.4% Sarah Palin
    If the numbers are to be believed, it would appear that Sarah would be dubbed the “Palinator”. A 70% rating would be the debate equivalent of a hidin’ for Biden.
    As for McCain making an absolutely stunning choice for a running mate, I believe he had the Democratic team ‘dead to rights’.
    With four weeks to run SP and JM have more than enough time to make a solid case for their candidacy. The coronation of Obama is far from assured.
    Cheers
    Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
    Frankenstein Battalion
    2nd Squadron: Ulanen-(Lancers) Regiment Großherzog Friedrich von Baden(Rheinisches) Nr.7(Saarbrucken)
    Knecht Rupprecht Division
    Hans Corps
    1st Saint Nicolaas Army
    Army Group “True North”

  31. Merle, were those midgets Koreans or Indians like we used to see when I was a kid? Remember Sky-Low-Low and Little Beaver? Don’t hink the Korean ones had names.

  32. It was a long time ago. We was raised in a 3 room living/3 bedroom house/9 boys. Had a battery run 12″ TV that was turned on for stampede wrestling and moms show called payton place. Never had much time for TV. It was great.

  34. I’m a pessimist. I feared the VP debates because I thought if Governor Palin delivered anything less than a stellar performance, she would forever be the scapegoat for the Republican loss which appears to be looming. I thought that was an enormous amount of pressure to bear and I didn’t know how she would hold up. However, she did better than well and I was vastly relieved. It wasn’t just how the outcome would affect her, but how it would affect any woman who might find herself in a similar spot in the future. The media have done their best to present her as an airhead and a laughingstock. I would be saddened if a woman of her substance could be dismissed in this way, but if she had wavered in the debate, I fear this might have happened. She might be weak on foreign policy and she might have a few religious views I don’t share, but I’m delighted that she not only survived but also prevailed. On a broader perspective, it means that young woman might have other roles to aspire to than vapid starlets or condescending intellectuals. Please, let there be more than Brittney and Mallick to represent women.

  35. wonder what this is all about . . .
    “FBI Raids Obama Friend’s Home
    Andrea Billups
    Washington Times
    October 3, 2008
    The FBI on Wednesday raided the county offices of a former Illinois state senator who is a poker-playing buddy of Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama.
    According to Chicago authorities, the FBI visited the offices in Joliet, Ill., of Will County executive Larry Walsh, a longtime friend of Mr. Obama’s, and his chief of staff Matt Ryan.
    Mr. Walsh, who served in the Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2005, was endorsed by Mr. Obama in his county executive election bid. With the support of some of Mr. Obama’s U.S. Senate volunteers, he easily defeated incumbent Republican Joseph Mikan.
    Will County auditor Steve Weber confirmed that his office had been asked by the FBI to assist in an investigation, but he did not elaborate on the specifics.
    Two FBI agents out of Chicago reportedly spent more than an hour in the Will County offices on Wednesday morning.”

  36. I think she did darn well considering that she is a relative rookie next to Joe Biden, who has been at this game for decades. She was clearly a bit nervous, understandably so, which made her performance all the more impressive.
    Listening to and reading the negative or lukewarm comments about her underscores why politics is such a mess.
    We may *talk* about wanting a fresh face in politics, but in the end we always side with the slick career politicians.
    Name one case where a perfectly competent and capable rookie, who lacks the slickness (and often sleaziness) of career politicians, has been given a fair shake by the electorate? Name one. You can’t.
    So to a large degree we bring on the mess ourselves.
    My hat off to Palin, I doubt any of her critics could have done better than she did.

  37. I’m sure most of you have looked over the MSM on debate option and its obvious they were not watching the same debate as I was. Its so ridiculously slanted its almost laughable if it went so said. Biden is the same old crony career politician that makes Washington look bad internationally. Sara is so fresh and mainstream that the MSM just can not deal with it because she does not fit their old crony mold. I suspect that Obama is going to win this election and although financially thats a disaster I do suspect that the world opinion of the US in general will be improved and that probably a good thing because Bush was a mistake and if the GOP would have picked McCain in 2000 the US today would have been in a much better position than they find themselves in now. Yah I’m getting off topic, I think she is a fresh new face who would do a lot for the US and its really sad and a big lose for the country that after Nov 4rth see will probably not be herd from again.

  38. I think that Sarah (may I call you Sally) won the debate. I was expecting a train wreck based on the what I had heard third hand about recent interviews.
    I also thought that Joe did pretty good too.
    It looks like McCain-Palin are directly targeting the American people and bypassing MSM and media polls. This may work because I think that a lot more Americans realize the where MSM is coming from and I think they are seeing the manipulation of polls. The election of McCain-Palin would probably destroy MSM as currently run – a good thing.

  39. Re Canada’s election debate.
    “I think those people are not normal and I don’t want them anywhere near government. If that’s the best this country can do for leaders, we are truly f-ed.”
    “A” Freakin MEN, Phantom
    What a joke!
    Dion hardly bothered attending and was un-intelligible and insignificant to what passed for debate.
    What is more shocking is that anyone can take Layton and May seriously.
    They are raving communist lunatics, with NO self awareness, that would destroy our economy immediately if elected.
    A lot of Canada, and specifically the people that reside in the Toronto-Ottawa-Montreal corridor, Winnipeg and Vancouver city centres conduct their lives in a fantasy realm of sophomoric politically correct Disney Oprahisms founded on “Little Guy is always noble and right, and everything powerful, large or American is wrong and evil”.
    Canada is “F”d.
    Stefi, May and Jack acted like crazed rabid sewer rats, disgraceful uncivilized debaters.
    Watching Jack Layton “strike a pose” is as deep as his waters run.
    His schtick shouldn’t pass for political debate in freakin Uganda.
    During a hockey fight Canadians openly BOO the third man in and hate an unfair fight.
    How can the “Monkey In The Middle”, four against 1 formated round table be advisable, unless you’re an ABC lefty CBC employee, trying to hang on to your $100M year Boom Mike Holder job.
    Do you think the entire crew from the show lives in Jack’s neighbourhood.
    He bragged 5000 artist live in his riding.
    I can attest to that; probably more!
    They obviously picked the format, set the seating arrangement, chose the camera shots, twisted the feedback knobs and did the makeup and lighting.
    The last words (yelled over the moderator’s closing comments) at Canada’s political leaders debate , were intended to be a swipe at America.
    Who would have believed a year ago that anybody could get into an official political debate sponsored by our taxes that was any crazier than Taliban Jack.
    May is astoundingly, crazier.
    The last guy wondering towards the cameras on the set by himself, as they shut down the lights, was Jack Layton, totally oblivious to the fact that everyone left.
    I believe that Harper has never been in Majority “terror- tory”.
    The polls are artificially manipulated and used to scare Liberals into getting out of their cars and voting for a disfunctional, morally broke party of grifters, who’s only purpose serves to keep the MSM/Arts/Bureaucrats gravy train on track.
    Harper will win with a few more guys on his team but no majority.
    Canada could use a Sarah Palin, she kicks ass.

  40. {{{{DRUDGE POLL}}}} WHO WON THE VICE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE?…
    BIDEN
    28% 118,953
    PALIN
    70% 294,430
    NEITHER
    2% 7,360
    Total Votes: 420,743
    Given the numbers I would put this in “whup ass” territory for debate.
    Sarah Palin came across as confident, astute, and made a connection with the viewer. The clear conclusion is you can be a glitzy glam queen and still have some hockey mom street smarts.
    Like Gordie Howe, she knows when to lift her elbows digging for the puck in the corner.
    The puck is in the net for the Republicans on debate night.

  41. Further to my comment above, I think Mark Steyn sums it up well with this comment he made after the debate:
    “American politics, in a way, is about the art of faking authenticity in the Biden school. And it doesn’t really quite know how to handle someone who is authentically authentic, which is what Governor Palin is.”

  42. ET
    Gord Tulk: Bosniaks are Bosnian Muslims. Anyone who’s done any reading about the Balkan Wars would know this.
    ET you sound like a know it all condescending schoolteacher. I enjoy and agree with most of what you have to say but ease up in your criticisms of others, a simple explanation like JJM @ 6:40 would be sufficient.

  43. With respect to the VP debate, I give the win to Palin; but, I admire Joe Biden for regularly referring to himself in the third person, that’s the kind of guy Indiana Homez can relate to:)

  44. Shaidle has a good vid up with some reaction the the VP debate.
    Watch the whole thing.Coombes gets a good whippin’.
    fivefeetoffury.com

  45. Comparing two debates – I know now, what are the basis of anti-Americanism in Canada. They are as simple as inferiority complex. Where in U.S. debate focus is on ‘middle class’, in Canada ‘low income people’ that matters. Then, I turned on the radio and a caller supported one of the politicians, because “he was for the little guy”.
    I think you can easily win elections in Canada with the slogan: “We are the party of low expectations and low self-esteem”.

  46. …while she performed better than people expected, she left a trail of mindless, ill-thought statements that will be continued to parsed and debated. And on Tuesday, none of this will be remembered.
    Wow ET, surprising take from you. You didn’t like the Palin girlie?
    Surprisingly objective… and accurate. Palin has a talent for making one forget what the question was. When she HAS to answer a question, well, like here for instance…
    http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=jBt0r9Exv2I&feature=user
    Don’t even ask what newspapers she reads.

  47. After last night, I expect am increase in Palinmania at public speeches and an equal but opposite reaction of Palin Derangement Syndrome by the elites and MSM.
    I am part way through the Youtube of the debate. SP just has an appeal that no amount of money, finishing school or education can buy.

  48. Just a quick note. Broadcast only numbers were 40 million last night. This does not include any of the cable networks.
    I don’t think all those people tuned in to see Joe Biden!!

  49. In the Canadian debate the person who let me down the most was Steve Paikin. Mr. Harper was not allowed to finish a sentence by the pack of jackals nipping at his heels. For staying cool, calm and the most prime ministerial Mr. Harper wins hands down.
    Mr. Layton had the most energy but was on steroids. Mr. Dion was better than expected but clearly couldn’t lead a horse to water. Ms. May is a one issue candidate who came across as nasty. Mr. Duceppe mailed it in.
    Lousy format and poorly moderated. Compare that to the clarity of the VP debate.
    Sarah Rocks!

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