Tips open for Friday. Busy work day planned, so blogging may be slow for a few hours.
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Super sleuth Iberia has the answer to the perplexing insurance problem:
“It’s a word game. “Insurance” is just a weasel word for a payment to Cadman.”
The brainless twat, however, doesn’t understand that yes, the key word is “insurance,” which actually means, you know, insurance.
This mess isn’t going anywhere, except to put more egg on Dion’s face, to accompany both feet in his mouth.
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The ‘Fifth Estate’ on air promotion is nauseating – it’s all about getting to the bottom of the $300,000 Mulroney/Shreiber Affair. But, how about the $20 million Liberal pillaging of the tax payers affair, which has never been explained, let alone investigated? Or, how Chretien retired a multimillionaire affair, after having only spent 5 years in the private sector? Or, Paul Martin’s shipping and cocaine affair? Or…
I went and viewed the Interview on Last nites Duffy with the Author again, this is where you will see duffy point talk about the private talk with Cadman. Duffy points out that he expected Cadman was not going to vote with the opposition over the fact of his MP’s insurance.
Another thing the Author of the book is kinda evasive in his replies to Duffy.
2 & 2 is not adding up to 4, there seems to something fishy about the whole thing, The authors answers, the phone interview with Cadmans wife, Why would she shoot herself in the foot?(Conservative nomination)just don’t add up.
Morality, justice and women’s rights: a portrait of Islam for the 21st century
Turkey’s highest religious authority is preparing to publish a groundbreaking guide to Islam for the modern world, putting the words of the Prophet Muhammad into context for a sweeping reinterpretation of the religion.
The Presidency of Religious Affairs in this Muslim, but strongly secular, country has commissioned a thorough review of the sayings of the Prophet, or the Hadith, which constitute the second most sacred text in the religion after the Koran…
He said that one of the aims was to separate the religion from the traditionalist cultural elements that have long hampered a true vision of Islam. The Hadith guide, to be published as a book this year, would make it much more difficult to justify extreme, misogynistic and violent interpretations of Islam, Professor Gormez said…
See also Libby Purves, An Islamic Reformation in Turkey: women, obedience and authority
Mr Beer and Popcorn Scott Reid’s suggestion that somehow the $50,000 Conservatives gave to former Ottawa South CPC candidate Alan Riddell was unethical shows how unethical Scott Reid is. Yet again, he continues to spread wild falsehoods.
As far as I know the only money offered to the former Conservative candidate was to cover expenses already incurred on behalf of the party. Covering expenses can hardly be considered as a bribe or a financial inducement.
Re: Cadman “affair.” I have a solution – let’s get the book that names names, and well, release an electronic version of the whole thing. Then we can all judge for ourselves. The author doesn’t agree – quelle surprise!! Isn’t this really about selling a book.
Dion was embarassing yesterday. He repeats someone else’s allegation, which itself is based on very sketchy information, then goes chapter and verse on the law on the matter, then calls “it” a “high crime,” then sits down with a petulant schoolboy look on his face.
Ignatieff was the bigger laugh though. He backhandedly asks if PM accusing Mrs Cadman of lying, as if it can only be A or B, her second-hand allegations are true, or she’s lying. Is that the kind of critical thinking he expected from his students?
Maybe it was a misunderstanding. I think this author is a bit of a scumbag. I understand Mrs Cadman was quite surprised upon hearing about this. We need to hear much more from her. By all means, let’s have the RCMP investigate; but, Harper must put his foot down on this one, and have all the shenanigans investigated, as suggested above by others. The Dosanj affair is particularly stinky, so is giving a cabinet post to a rookie MP (Stronach), and on and on. Let’s clear the air completely.
If the “officials” did indeed make an inappropriate offer, or leave impression of one, that is on their head, then they should be held accountable.
Some actual, documented evidence, as exists in the Dosanj affair, would be nice; or is proof another weasel word.
Thank you, lberia, for explaining your support for the harrassment of the children of bloggers.
I was genuinely curious to understand how a Liberal supporter such as you might justify their support of the harassment of children, at school, in Canada, in the year 2008, over some blog dispute.
Thank you, Liberal supporter lberia, for explaining your support of child harassment at school.
Hate to say this, but Dona Cadman doesn’t come across as very bright. She knows this book will come out (they asked the guy to write the biography) and she still wants to run as a Conservative? Did she not think she would cause some problems? Here’s a woman who vocally supported Penny Priddy (NDP) running in ’06 in her late husband’s riding. It’s probably safe to say that Priddy will enjoy success in that riding for years to come.
I’m not impressed with any of the key players here (and that includes Chuck and how he obviously had his mind made up and played Canadians as fools for weeks wondering what he would do – even having polls in his riding).
You should know better than that fasddasf there nothing lower than a scared liebriel.
The malevolent glee of the Libs at having found a ‘shiny thing’ in the Cadman story confirms my belief that the RCMP should be called in to investigate Shawinigate and the Relocation scandal among many other things associated with the libs. This is long past due.
A major attitude adjustment upside-the-head is needed.
They have become the National Enquirer Party.
Rich: “They have become the National Enquirer Party.”
Hmm, you may be onto something there. Call them that, or the NEP for short. Heh.
MARY T @ 10;35 AM –
“I wont buy the book. She is the Cindy Sheenan of Canada.”
MARY T has it right in my view.
Mrs Cadman may well be untrustworthy in this saga.
As well, Duffy knew in advance how Cadman was going to vote in order to keep the Libs in power and keep his MP benefits if or when he lost his cancer battle.
The Libs and MSM and perhaps Mrs Cadman think it’s a good payback time for the Harper conservatives.
That is – apparently the insurance policy on all MPs, carried by and paid for by the govt, is such that if you die as a sitting MP, the value of the policy is doubled. I’m guessing, purely guessing that the face value is 500,000.
Hindsight is 20-20, but that rider really should be amended. Cadman was presented with the option of voting purely as a representative of his constituents or voting so that his family could reap the benefits. Not a good choice to put in front of an MP.
I seem to recall that the Libs coerced Belinda across the aisle as the denouement of a week in which Paul Martin bucked constitutional conventions. Professor Michael Bliss wrote at that time: Canadians ought to realize that this week’s breakdown of their Parliament is far more serious than any of the thuggish revelations from the Gomery commission. As of this weekend, we are in the historically unprecedented situation of having a Prime Minister who is clinging to office by recklessly disregarding the fundamental principles of our democracy. It is a shocking act of proto-tyranny, which justifies the extreme resort of intervention by the Governor-General.
Anyone else receive an “offer-you-can’t-refuse” from the Globe And Mail ??
G&M called; If we buy a 3 month sub for $26/month, the Globe will supply free, 2 return air fare out of Vancouver to anywhere (a list of 40 destinations, including; Hawaii, Spain, GB, Carrib, Florida, Mexico, Canada, ect)
Even if it is an Air Miles type of Zig Zag route — seems too good to be true, no ?
“G&M called; If we buy a 3 month sub for $26/month, the Globe will supply free, 2 return air fare out of Vancouver to anywhere (a list of 40 destinations, including; Hawaii, Spain, GB, Carrib, Florida, Mexico, Canada, ect)”
Hmmmm – would that consitute a “bribe”? Just wondering?
Beating the Cadman Thing to death….
Since this story broken by Boag hit the wires NOT one public comment by Donna Cadman… or her daughter. Closed interviews with CBC hacks do NOT provide any evidence of fact or truth … so let’s hear it from the Horses Mouth … Donna Cadman you are on the hotseat.
This stinks of confabulation by Zytaruk Boag etal…
And NO surprise that Dion and the Libs were prepared to jump all over the story in the house … another case of being prepped by CBC?
Bet on it!
Yes indeed let’s get to the bottom of it … quickly!
An Insurance company would jump at the chance to insure a diagnosed pending fatality.
They would collect premiums and then be under no obligation to pay out due to medical records.
A no-risk contract. = TG
TG , Then it shouldn’t be at all difficult for you to provide one example please.
Anyone remotely familiar with insurance products knows you cannot qualify for life insurance with pre-existing terminal conditions.
This is a bad/cruel joke news story for the promotion of book sales. The premise is entirely MORONIC!!
No wonder Mrs. Cadman hasn’t answered any of these allegations as they are completely PREPOSTEROUS and not deserving of acknowledgement.
Ask ANY Type 1 – Insulin Dependent Diabetic whether they can purchase a life insurance policy.
Cheers
Liberal MP, Shawn Murphy on the former Prime Minister yesterday: http://canadianbluelemons.blogspot.com/2008/02/reid-dishon-shawn-murphy-lib-mp.html
“You can see the video here. Go to 4:12:15 for the start. Here are some gems from the (dis)Hon. Member from Charlottetown:
“Bring forth Brian Mulroney.
Bring him to court, hang him high.
Hang Mulroney.
Hang Mulroney, that’s what we want to do.
Let’s get this Mulroney before the courts as soon as possible and hang him high.
Put a noose on his head.”
A point of order has been raised with The Speaker by Ed Fast CPC MP.
I may have missed it, but the term insurance policy on the late Mr. Cadman is no different than any other sitting MP has.
The pertinent fact in this matter is whether the Canadian populace would be sent into an election if Cadman had voted with the Conservatives.
Once the writ was dropped, all term insurance would be dropped. Therefore, Cadman would not be covered.
A vote to prolong Parliament meant that Cadman’s heirs would be eligible for the insurance payout and that’s exactly what happened since he died while Parliament was still in session.
Just guessing, but the Conservative Party delegates may have somehow assured Cadman that he would not jeapordize his survivors’ financial future if he voted against the sitting government. Yet, Cadman denies such an offer was made.
Cadman decided on the safety of the existing MP’s term insurance and good for him.
“The pictures show Obama wearing traditional Somalian garb on a 2006 visit to the Wajir region of Kenya, where his late father was born.
Obama has fought a whisper campaign by fringe elements who wrongly say he is Muslim and have even compared his name to Osama bin Laden’s, as well as highlighted his middle name, Hussein.
The photo showed Obama wearing a turban and being outfitted in other traditional clothing alongside Sheik Mohamed Hassan.
“He [Hassan] was the right person to perform any such activity like dressing a visitor like Obama with traditional Somali clothes,” Mukhtar Sheik Nur, another leader, told Reuters.
Set you free – it’s likely, that his MP term insurance was in effect as long as he was the MP – IOW until after an election. Even then, I’m not so sure. I wish I had more time to research this.
For instance, serving members of CF has supplementary death benefit (SDB), which is two years pay at time of death, or when retired from CF. That extends after retirement, though, and starts reducing at age 65.
I wonder if the MP plan works like this? Can anyone shed light on this. Depending on how one looks at this, they could argue that propping up Liberals actually keeps Cadman’s insurance in place; or, his helping to defeat government might disentitle his coverage after election, in which he doesn’t run.
Anyway, we’re getting closer to truth of matter, I think. We need to hear from those officials who had discussion with Cadman, to clear the air.
In any event, if opposition feels so strongly about this, they are free to introduce non-confidence motion on Opposition Day. I doubt they will, though; it’s easier to sling mud from the privilege of HofC.
re: Life Insurance and Cadman. I have done some quick research and, from what I read, Cadman’s life insurance would continue after he retired as MP, because he did qualify for MP pension (1997 – 2005 is more than six years required).
So, if I’m correct (and certainly will yield to better research), whether of not Liberals defeated in 2005, would have no effect on Cadman’s eligibily for life insurance plan.
As for private insurance, no way, period. Even the no-evidence plans, which give no/little insurance coverage for two years, do ask if person diagnosed with, among other things, terminal cancer.
We need to hear more from Mrs Cadman, and Tory officials involved. Maybe Mr Cadman, on heavy medication, unintentionally misled his family. Obviously, I don’t know – but isn’t that a possibility?
Anyway, let’s have an election over this; works for me.
The pictures show Obama wearing traditional Somalian garb on a 2006 visit to the Wajir region of Kenya, where his late father was born.
Posted by: Brent Weston at February 29, 2008 2:07 PM
The saga continues, with blog reaction to the photo from al Qaedists:
(Via City of Brass) ‘Muslim’ Flap Stirs Al Qaeda Message Board
Al Hesbah is one of al Qaeda’s main cyber mouthpieces. It has been cited numerous times by name in official communiqués issued by bin Laden’s terror network, been featured in propaganda films produced on behalf of mujahideen organizations, including al Qaeda…
So those who follow al Qaeda took notice this week when members of the mujahideen took notice of the image of Barack Obama dressed as a Somali elder on the Drudge Report. Evan Kohlmann of Global Terror Alert, and an NBC News terrorism analyst, was among those who watched as the Al Hesbah message board lit up…
In fact, Kohlmann added, al-Qaeda supporters are so insistent about their hatred for Obama that they have gone as far as to portray him as an “Iranian agent” secretly sent to take over the United States and fight a war against Sunni Muslims.
You want scandal? http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/02/29/post-appeal.html
National Post ordered to turn over documentation regarding possible money owed, by Jean Chretien, to Inn owner whom he was lobbying to receive BDBC loan.
There you go, lberia, a real scandal to chew on.
shamrock – yes, we need to know more about MP’s benefits. Besides their salaries, what benefits do they receive?
If they only have term insurance which ends as soon as their MP term ends, then, it is a question whether the two Conservatives suggested that, if Cadman’s term as MP ended due to the fall of the House, and his MP term insurance therefore ended…that the party would cover it.
Are MPs provided with term insurance?
How much was this term insurance for?
Certainly, pension benefits would continue for his survivors.
I think we need to know more and it’s tiresome to hear the House focused only on tabloid issues rather than the work of the country. Can’t the Liberals do any solid work?
ET: I think that the basic reason that the Liberals have decided to run with the Cadman story is that tabloid issues are all they can get their heads around these days.
The Liberals have pretty much conceded the field of ideas (i.e., the economy, the environment, political reform, law and order) to the Harper Tories. So what’s left for them other than to jump all over the government for some alleged breach of ethics for which there is no paper trail and which rests upon a swirl of rumours and hearsay? It’s the Schreiber inquiry all over again.
Like the Schreiber inquiry, these allegations will temporarily hurt the government in the polls. But by and of themselves, they’re not sufficient to mount an election campaign on, and the Liberals have no intention of doing so.
Shamrock:
Now there is a potential scandal to be proven:
the PMO using the RCMP to play “Financial Gestapo” with the president of the BDBC. That made for a pretty good court case for wrongful dismissal as well. Mr. Beaudoin if my memory serves correctly. http://www.canlii.org/fr/qc/qccs/doc/2004/2004canlii581/2004canlii581.html
No loans for the golf course, gets you dismissed. Yes maybe the Federal Court should have been looking into this a long time ago.
Irwin Daisy:
Read the comment by set you fre at 2 pm. Perhaps the Cons were offering him “insurance” to cover the loss his MP policy if an election was called. I’m not surprised youf feeble brain can’t envision that, so why don’t you just go back to making disparaging remarks about muslims.
fasddasf:
You must be Dick’s sock puppet.
Shamrock:
I’d love to see Chretien get spanked in court, but I’ve given up hope on any possibility of a highly elected official (former or serving) being convicted of anything.
Gerry Ritz, Minister of Agriculture, is supposed to make an announcement at the Legislative Building in Regina this afternoon regarding the Canadian Wheat board and the monopoly on barley sales.
Could it be that this will be presented as a matter of confidence?
You would hear the collective GULP from the Liberals all the way from Ottawa to Saskatchewan.
Reports on Newstalk 980 are that there are some demonstrators there waiting for the announcement and things are getting a little testy to the point of pushing and shoving.
Stay tuned…could be fun!!
A Liberal MP is threatening to bring down the Tory Government over the Cadman affair.
Yes!!…bring it on!!…oh wait, what’s that?…its Garth Turner who’s saying that?…never mind, its all b.s.
It is obvious someone is lying in the Cadman fiasco. Chucky either lied to his bride,or repeatedly to the media,or the little missus is making the whole thing up. Either way the family name and reputation is shredded. In the Shrieber fiasco,either Mulroney or Schrieber have pants on fire,but Mulroney’s name and reputation has been shredded. Do the Liberals care? Not a chance,they are morally bankrupt and will do anything for power.If it wasn’t for the support of the cbc(the unofficial opposition)they would be wallowing in the ditch with the green party.
Shocked? CBC says the raid shocked the mayor. The raid shocked her? Not the roosters? Not the blood?
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Cockfighting raid shocks mayor of Surrey, BC
CBC British Columbia – 2 hours ago
Surrey Mayor Dianne Watts said Thursday she was shocked to learn that cockfighting was going on in her city. (cbc)
lberia: “I’d love to see Chretien get spanked in court, but I’ve given up hope on any possibility of a highly elected official (former or serving) being convicted of anything.”
You may be right; or maybe you’re just cynical, as many are. I can understand cynicism given the treasury looting of the previous Grit governments, and possibly Mulroney era.
Also: “Read the comment by set you free at 2 pm. Perhaps the Cons were offering him “insurance” to cover the loss his MP policy if an election was called.”
Again, lberia, read my posts on this matter. I suspected that the MP’s life insurance plan continued after retirement. From what I’ve found, as long as Cadman was entitled to MP pension, his life insurance remained in force. Since, as I understand, six years is minimum time for MP pension, Cadman, who served from 1997 to 2005, he would qualify.
If I’m wrong on this, by all means let me know; anyone. I haven’t had a chance to do more thorough research.
But, if this matter is to be investigated by RCMP, let them also investigate the Dosanj and Stronach affairs, among others.
Dhimmis in Holland cower in the Zee of multiculturalism.
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Cabinet Panic over Koran Film
THE HAGUE, 01/03/08 – If Dutch companies, citizens and interests abroad are hurt following MP Geert Wilders’ film on the Koran, there is only one person responsible, according to Prime Minister Balkenende. “At this moment, a great responsibility is resting on Mr. Wilders”.
The cabinet on Friday produced an official statement that Prime Minister Balkenende read out after his weekly cabinet meeting. It was meant to smooth over remarks by Foreign Minister Maxime Verhagen that Wilders should cancel his film, due for release in March. “Do not broadcast it,” said Verhagen to public broadcaster NOS on Thursday night. …- http://www.nisnews.nl/public/010308_1.htm
It was confirmed on the 4:00 news on Newstalk 980 Regina that the Tories are going to bring a motion into Parliament on Monday to end the Canadian Wheat Board monopoly on barley sales.
After being told by the courts on two separate occasions that this MUST be passed by Parliament, one can only assume that the only way the Tories can get the result that they are looking for is to make it a matter of confidence, so if it gets voted down we would be into an election.
The Liberals will be really backed into a corner because if they side with the Government to save their sorry-ass jobs they will again look like the enornous hypocrits that they are after crowing so long and hard that the monopoly must be kept in place.
Don,t you just love it?…PMSH outsmarts the stupid Liberals yet again!!
Shamrock,
I agree with you, Cadman may have been confused.
Both my father and my father-in-law died of cancer and they were very often confused in the last 6 months of their lives.
The drugs they were on reduced them to hapless people intellectually and confusion was common.
However, that being said if there was wrong doing I would punish those involved harshly despite being a conservative.
I would do this even knowing Liberals would give an Order Of Canada medal for similar behavior. Whoops I forgot, they already have!
Iberia,
But making disparaging remarks about you is so much more fun. Plus, there’s the added bonus that there’s a lot to work with.
Shamrock:
I think that in the event of death, Cadman’s family was only entitled to twice his yearly earnings, considerably less than the alleged $1M “insurance policy” he was offered.
irwin:
I could care less what kind of remarks you make about me…I just consider the source.
like a rock???, apparently the rocks properties are the schist
From Mike Duffy Live, CTV Newsnet, February 28:
Mike Duffy: “Can I share something with you, which I haven’t shared
publicly until now? … And that is in private conversations with
me, Chuck Cadman told me, that there was no way he was going to vote
against the Martin government, because he was concerned of the
potential impact it might have on the insurance settlement for his
wife Dona. In other words: if he died while a sitting MP, Chuck told
me, ‘that would double or virtually double the payout to his widow’
and he didn’t ‘dare take a risk forcing an election’, even if he was
confident of being elected, for fear of some legal hassle involving
an insurance payout
lberia, I’m just trying to provide context whereby Mrs Cadman misunderstood her husband, who maybe wasn’t quite clear enough, given he was dying and likely under pain medication.
As for your point about life insurance, as has been pointed out, again, and again, and again … terminally ill people don’t qualify for life insurance. That’s the terminology used – life insurance policy. You can spin that to mean whatever you want, but it would be idle speculation.
As I said, RCMP should investigate, as well as Grit offers made in the same time frame. It’s frankly amazing that people are trying to read into taped conversation of PM, but prepared to ignore Dosanj clearly offering a benefit, IMO an illegal benefit. Our MSM friends let Dosanj completely off hook on this one.
Like I said, double standard anyone?
Libs make warm fuzzy blanket offers? (Ujjal?)
Cons offer Cadman uncontested nomination.
Dion appoints women candidates.
Martin appoints Belinda.
MacKay sez dogs are loyal.
Some dogs bite posties.
is this all there is?
as good as it gets?
American Thinker:
“Canada, our friendly neighbor and number one foreign oil supplier.”
Hussein and Hillary: idiotarians*.
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The danger of Obama’s amateur diplomacy
Thomas Lifson
After suggesting that he would invade our ally Pakistan and talk to our enemy Iran, Barack Obama has moved on to potentially damage our relations with Canada, our friendly neighbor and number one foreign oil supplier.
Under the terms of NAFTA, Canada is prohibited from cutting off oil exports to the US if there is a worldwide shortage or supply disruption unless supplies are also rationed to Canadian consumers by the same amount.
After the Hillary/Obama debate, Canada’s trade minister pointed out that if NAFTA is re-opened, Canada might want to opt out of this clause, which would then leave Canada free to sell its oil to any other country for whatever price it could get. http://tinyurl.com/3bhfur
*H/T LGF
This is the real thing. An insight to why some are cut down in Vancouver streets by gun and knife.
Actual Supreme Court account begins with stabbing 53 times and moves to other killings with many players.
Reality more gripping than any novel. http://tinyurl.com/329frf
Exciting times in Vancouver, Richmond, Delta, Surrey and up the valley to Kent Max Security Prison. = TG
Super sleuth Iberia has the answer to the perplexing insurance problem:
“It’s a word game. “Insurance” is just a weasel word for a payment to Cadman.”
The brainless twat, however, doesn’t understand that yes, the key word is “insurance,” which actually means, you know, insurance.
This mess isn’t going anywhere, except to put more egg on Dion’s face, to accompany both feet in his mouth.
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The ‘Fifth Estate’ on air promotion is nauseating – it’s all about getting to the bottom of the $300,000 Mulroney/Shreiber Affair. But, how about the $20 million Liberal pillaging of the tax payers affair, which has never been explained, let alone investigated? Or, how Chretien retired a multimillionaire affair, after having only spent 5 years in the private sector? Or, Paul Martin’s shipping and cocaine affair? Or…
I went and viewed the Interview on Last nites Duffy with the Author again, this is where you will see duffy point talk about the private talk with Cadman. Duffy points out that he expected Cadman was not going to vote with the opposition over the fact of his MP’s insurance.
Another thing the Author of the book is kinda evasive in his replies to Duffy.
2 & 2 is not adding up to 4, there seems to something fishy about the whole thing, The authors answers, the phone interview with Cadmans wife, Why would she shoot herself in the foot?(Conservative nomination)just don’t add up.
Morality, justice and women’s rights: a portrait of Islam for the 21st century
Turkey’s highest religious authority is preparing to publish a groundbreaking guide to Islam for the modern world, putting the words of the Prophet Muhammad into context for a sweeping reinterpretation of the religion.
The Presidency of Religious Affairs in this Muslim, but strongly secular, country has commissioned a thorough review of the sayings of the Prophet, or the Hadith, which constitute the second most sacred text in the religion after the Koran…
He said that one of the aims was to separate the religion from the traditionalist cultural elements that have long hampered a true vision of Islam. The Hadith guide, to be published as a book this year, would make it much more difficult to justify extreme, misogynistic and violent interpretations of Islam, Professor Gormez said…
See also Libby Purves, An Islamic Reformation in Turkey: women, obedience and authority
Mr Beer and Popcorn Scott Reid’s suggestion that somehow the $50,000 Conservatives gave to former Ottawa South CPC candidate Alan Riddell was unethical shows how unethical Scott Reid is. Yet again, he continues to spread wild falsehoods.
As far as I know the only money offered to the former Conservative candidate was to cover expenses already incurred on behalf of the party. Covering expenses can hardly be considered as a bribe or a financial inducement.
Re: Cadman “affair.” I have a solution – let’s get the book that names names, and well, release an electronic version of the whole thing. Then we can all judge for ourselves. The author doesn’t agree – quelle surprise!! Isn’t this really about selling a book.
Dion was embarassing yesterday. He repeats someone else’s allegation, which itself is based on very sketchy information, then goes chapter and verse on the law on the matter, then calls “it” a “high crime,” then sits down with a petulant schoolboy look on his face.
Ignatieff was the bigger laugh though. He backhandedly asks if PM accusing Mrs Cadman of lying, as if it can only be A or B, her second-hand allegations are true, or she’s lying. Is that the kind of critical thinking he expected from his students?
Maybe it was a misunderstanding. I think this author is a bit of a scumbag. I understand Mrs Cadman was quite surprised upon hearing about this. We need to hear much more from her. By all means, let’s have the RCMP investigate; but, Harper must put his foot down on this one, and have all the shenanigans investigated, as suggested above by others. The Dosanj affair is particularly stinky, so is giving a cabinet post to a rookie MP (Stronach), and on and on. Let’s clear the air completely.
If the “officials” did indeed make an inappropriate offer, or leave impression of one, that is on their head, then they should be held accountable.
Some actual, documented evidence, as exists in the Dosanj affair, would be nice; or is proof another weasel word.
Thank you, lberia, for explaining your support for the harrassment of the children of bloggers.
I was genuinely curious to understand how a Liberal supporter such as you might justify their support of the harassment of children, at school, in Canada, in the year 2008, over some blog dispute.
Thank you, Liberal supporter lberia, for explaining your support of child harassment at school.
Hate to say this, but Dona Cadman doesn’t come across as very bright. She knows this book will come out (they asked the guy to write the biography) and she still wants to run as a Conservative? Did she not think she would cause some problems? Here’s a woman who vocally supported Penny Priddy (NDP) running in ’06 in her late husband’s riding. It’s probably safe to say that Priddy will enjoy success in that riding for years to come.
I’m not impressed with any of the key players here (and that includes Chuck and how he obviously had his mind made up and played Canadians as fools for weeks wondering what he would do – even having polls in his riding).
You should know better than that fasddasf there nothing lower than a scared liebriel.
The malevolent glee of the Libs at having found a ‘shiny thing’ in the Cadman story confirms my belief that the RCMP should be called in to investigate Shawinigate and the Relocation scandal among many other things associated with the libs. This is long past due.
A major attitude adjustment upside-the-head is needed.
They have become the National Enquirer Party.
Rich: “They have become the National Enquirer Party.”
Hmm, you may be onto something there. Call them that, or the NEP for short. Heh.
Johann
yup….only one step removed from the nDp
Speak out against muslim genital mutilation, and end up dead in the Seine.
In France!
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/02/29/katoucha.dead.ap/index.html?iref=mpstoryview
MARY T @ 10;35 AM –
“I wont buy the book. She is the Cindy Sheenan of Canada.”
MARY T has it right in my view.
Mrs Cadman may well be untrustworthy in this saga.
As well, Duffy knew in advance how Cadman was going to vote in order to keep the Libs in power and keep his MP benefits if or when he lost his cancer battle.
The Libs and MSM and perhaps Mrs Cadman think it’s a good payback time for the Harper conservatives.
That is – apparently the insurance policy on all MPs, carried by and paid for by the govt, is such that if you die as a sitting MP, the value of the policy is doubled. I’m guessing, purely guessing that the face value is 500,000.
Hindsight is 20-20, but that rider really should be amended. Cadman was presented with the option of voting purely as a representative of his constituents or voting so that his family could reap the benefits. Not a good choice to put in front of an MP.
I seem to recall that the Libs coerced Belinda across the aisle as the denouement of a week in which Paul Martin bucked constitutional conventions. Professor Michael Bliss wrote at that time:
Canadians ought to realize that this week’s breakdown of their Parliament is far more serious than any of the thuggish revelations from the Gomery commission. As of this weekend, we are in the historically unprecedented situation of having a Prime Minister who is clinging to office by recklessly disregarding the fundamental principles of our democracy. It is a shocking act of proto-tyranny, which justifies the extreme resort of intervention by the Governor-General.
The Liberals have a message:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ME6bSd2bKU0
CTV breaking news on Osama bin Lying: http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20080228/turkey_Gates_080228/20080228?hub=TopStories
Anyone else receive an “offer-you-can’t-refuse” from the Globe And Mail ??
G&M called; If we buy a 3 month sub for $26/month, the Globe will supply free, 2 return air fare out of Vancouver to anywhere (a list of 40 destinations, including; Hawaii, Spain, GB, Carrib, Florida, Mexico, Canada, ect)
Even if it is an Air Miles type of Zig Zag route — seems too good to be true, no ?
“G&M called; If we buy a 3 month sub for $26/month, the Globe will supply free, 2 return air fare out of Vancouver to anywhere (a list of 40 destinations, including; Hawaii, Spain, GB, Carrib, Florida, Mexico, Canada, ect)”
Hmmmm – would that consitute a “bribe”? Just wondering?
Beating the Cadman Thing to death….
Since this story broken by Boag hit the wires NOT one public comment by Donna Cadman… or her daughter. Closed interviews with CBC hacks do NOT provide any evidence of fact or truth … so let’s hear it from the Horses Mouth … Donna Cadman you are on the hotseat.
This stinks of confabulation by Zytaruk Boag etal…
And NO surprise that Dion and the Libs were prepared to jump all over the story in the house … another case of being prepped by CBC?
Bet on it!
Yes indeed let’s get to the bottom of it … quickly!
An Insurance company would jump at the chance to insure a diagnosed pending fatality.
They would collect premiums and then be under no obligation to pay out due to medical records.
A no-risk contract. = TG
TG , Then it shouldn’t be at all difficult for you to provide one example please.
Anyone remotely familiar with insurance products knows you cannot qualify for life insurance with pre-existing terminal conditions.
This is a bad/cruel joke news story for the promotion of book sales. The premise is entirely MORONIC!!
No wonder Mrs. Cadman hasn’t answered any of these allegations as they are completely PREPOSTEROUS and not deserving of acknowledgement.
Ask ANY Type 1 – Insulin Dependent Diabetic whether they can purchase a life insurance policy.
Cheers
The Washroom Nazi Hunter has just repeated Jim Henley’s smear of Mark Steyn.
Time for a libel suit?
Liberal MP, Shawn Murphy on the former Prime Minister yesterday:
http://canadianbluelemons.blogspot.com/2008/02/reid-dishon-shawn-murphy-lib-mp.html
“You can see the video here. Go to 4:12:15 for the start. Here are some gems from the (dis)Hon. Member from Charlottetown:
“Bring forth Brian Mulroney.
Bring him to court, hang him high.
Hang Mulroney.
Hang Mulroney, that’s what we want to do.
Let’s get this Mulroney before the courts as soon as possible and hang him high.
Put a noose on his head.”
A point of order has been raised with The Speaker by Ed Fast CPC MP.
I may have missed it, but the term insurance policy on the late Mr. Cadman is no different than any other sitting MP has.
The pertinent fact in this matter is whether the Canadian populace would be sent into an election if Cadman had voted with the Conservatives.
Once the writ was dropped, all term insurance would be dropped. Therefore, Cadman would not be covered.
A vote to prolong Parliament meant that Cadman’s heirs would be eligible for the insurance payout and that’s exactly what happened since he died while Parliament was still in session.
Just guessing, but the Conservative Party delegates may have somehow assured Cadman that he would not jeapordize his survivors’ financial future if he voted against the sitting government. Yet, Cadman denies such an offer was made.
Cadman decided on the safety of the existing MP’s term insurance and good for him.
“The pictures show Obama wearing traditional Somalian garb on a 2006 visit to the Wajir region of Kenya, where his late father was born.
Obama has fought a whisper campaign by fringe elements who wrongly say he is Muslim and have even compared his name to Osama bin Laden’s, as well as highlighted his middle name, Hussein.
The photo showed Obama wearing a turban and being outfitted in other traditional clothing alongside Sheik Mohamed Hassan.
“He [Hassan] was the right person to perform any such activity like dressing a visitor like Obama with traditional Somali clothes,” Mukhtar Sheik Nur, another leader, told Reuters.
Full story here:
http://www.nypost.com/seven/02292008/news/nationalnews/tribes_rage_at_hill_99817.htm
richfisher….zing!!
Set you free – it’s likely, that his MP term insurance was in effect as long as he was the MP – IOW until after an election. Even then, I’m not so sure. I wish I had more time to research this.
For instance, serving members of CF has supplementary death benefit (SDB), which is two years pay at time of death, or when retired from CF. That extends after retirement, though, and starts reducing at age 65.
I wonder if the MP plan works like this? Can anyone shed light on this. Depending on how one looks at this, they could argue that propping up Liberals actually keeps Cadman’s insurance in place; or, his helping to defeat government might disentitle his coverage after election, in which he doesn’t run.
Anyway, we’re getting closer to truth of matter, I think. We need to hear from those officials who had discussion with Cadman, to clear the air.
In any event, if opposition feels so strongly about this, they are free to introduce non-confidence motion on Opposition Day. I doubt they will, though; it’s easier to sling mud from the privilege of HofC.
re: Life Insurance and Cadman. I have done some quick research and, from what I read, Cadman’s life insurance would continue after he retired as MP, because he did qualify for MP pension (1997 – 2005 is more than six years required).
So, if I’m correct (and certainly will yield to better research), whether of not Liberals defeated in 2005, would have no effect on Cadman’s eligibily for life insurance plan.
As for private insurance, no way, period. Even the no-evidence plans, which give no/little insurance coverage for two years, do ask if person diagnosed with, among other things, terminal cancer.
We need to hear more from Mrs Cadman, and Tory officials involved. Maybe Mr Cadman, on heavy medication, unintentionally misled his family. Obviously, I don’t know – but isn’t that a possibility?
Anyway, let’s have an election over this; works for me.
The pictures show Obama wearing traditional Somalian garb on a 2006 visit to the Wajir region of Kenya, where his late father was born.
Posted by: Brent Weston at February 29, 2008 2:07 PM
The saga continues, with blog reaction to the photo from al Qaedists:
(Via City of Brass) ‘Muslim’ Flap Stirs Al Qaeda Message Board
Al Hesbah is one of al Qaeda’s main cyber mouthpieces. It has been cited numerous times by name in official communiqués issued by bin Laden’s terror network, been featured in propaganda films produced on behalf of mujahideen organizations, including al Qaeda…
So those who follow al Qaeda took notice this week when members of the mujahideen took notice of the image of Barack Obama dressed as a Somali elder on the Drudge Report. Evan Kohlmann of Global Terror Alert, and an NBC News terrorism analyst, was among those who watched as the Al Hesbah message board lit up…
In fact, Kohlmann added, al-Qaeda supporters are so insistent about their hatred for Obama that they have gone as far as to portray him as an “Iranian agent” secretly sent to take over the United States and fight a war against Sunni Muslims.
You want scandal?
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/02/29/post-appeal.html
National Post ordered to turn over documentation regarding possible money owed, by Jean Chretien, to Inn owner whom he was lobbying to receive BDBC loan.
There you go, lberia, a real scandal to chew on.
shamrock – yes, we need to know more about MP’s benefits. Besides their salaries, what benefits do they receive?
If they only have term insurance which ends as soon as their MP term ends, then, it is a question whether the two Conservatives suggested that, if Cadman’s term as MP ended due to the fall of the House, and his MP term insurance therefore ended…that the party would cover it.
Are MPs provided with term insurance?
How much was this term insurance for?
Certainly, pension benefits would continue for his survivors.
I think we need to know more and it’s tiresome to hear the House focused only on tabloid issues rather than the work of the country. Can’t the Liberals do any solid work?
ET: I think that the basic reason that the Liberals have decided to run with the Cadman story is that tabloid issues are all they can get their heads around these days.
The Liberals have pretty much conceded the field of ideas (i.e., the economy, the environment, political reform, law and order) to the Harper Tories. So what’s left for them other than to jump all over the government for some alleged breach of ethics for which there is no paper trail and which rests upon a swirl of rumours and hearsay? It’s the Schreiber inquiry all over again.
Like the Schreiber inquiry, these allegations will temporarily hurt the government in the polls. But by and of themselves, they’re not sufficient to mount an election campaign on, and the Liberals have no intention of doing so.
Shamrock:
Now there is a potential scandal to be proven:
the PMO using the RCMP to play “Financial Gestapo” with the president of the BDBC. That made for a pretty good court case for wrongful dismissal as well. Mr. Beaudoin if my memory serves correctly.
http://www.canlii.org/fr/qc/qccs/doc/2004/2004canlii581/2004canlii581.html
No loans for the golf course, gets you dismissed. Yes maybe the Federal Court should have been looking into this a long time ago.
Irwin Daisy:
Read the comment by set you fre at 2 pm. Perhaps the Cons were offering him “insurance” to cover the loss his MP policy if an election was called. I’m not surprised youf feeble brain can’t envision that, so why don’t you just go back to making disparaging remarks about muslims.
fasddasf:
You must be Dick’s sock puppet.
Shamrock:
I’d love to see Chretien get spanked in court, but I’ve given up hope on any possibility of a highly elected official (former or serving) being convicted of anything.
Gerry Ritz, Minister of Agriculture, is supposed to make an announcement at the Legislative Building in Regina this afternoon regarding the Canadian Wheat board and the monopoly on barley sales.
Could it be that this will be presented as a matter of confidence?
You would hear the collective GULP from the Liberals all the way from Ottawa to Saskatchewan.
Reports on Newstalk 980 are that there are some demonstrators there waiting for the announcement and things are getting a little testy to the point of pushing and shoving.
Stay tuned…could be fun!!
A Liberal MP is threatening to bring down the Tory Government over the Cadman affair.
Yes!!…bring it on!!…oh wait, what’s that?…its Garth Turner who’s saying that?…never mind, its all b.s.
It is obvious someone is lying in the Cadman fiasco. Chucky either lied to his bride,or repeatedly to the media,or the little missus is making the whole thing up. Either way the family name and reputation is shredded. In the Shrieber fiasco,either Mulroney or Schrieber have pants on fire,but Mulroney’s name and reputation has been shredded. Do the Liberals care? Not a chance,they are morally bankrupt and will do anything for power.If it wasn’t for the support of the cbc(the unofficial opposition)they would be wallowing in the ditch with the green party.
Shocked? CBC says the raid shocked the mayor. The raid shocked her? Not the roosters? Not the blood?
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Cockfighting raid shocks mayor of Surrey, BC
CBC British Columbia – 2 hours ago
Surrey Mayor Dianne Watts said Thursday she was shocked to learn that cockfighting was going on in her city. (cbc)
lberia: “I’d love to see Chretien get spanked in court, but I’ve given up hope on any possibility of a highly elected official (former or serving) being convicted of anything.”
You may be right; or maybe you’re just cynical, as many are. I can understand cynicism given the treasury looting of the previous Grit governments, and possibly Mulroney era.
Also: “Read the comment by set you free at 2 pm. Perhaps the Cons were offering him “insurance” to cover the loss his MP policy if an election was called.”
Again, lberia, read my posts on this matter. I suspected that the MP’s life insurance plan continued after retirement. From what I’ve found, as long as Cadman was entitled to MP pension, his life insurance remained in force. Since, as I understand, six years is minimum time for MP pension, Cadman, who served from 1997 to 2005, he would qualify.
If I’m wrong on this, by all means let me know; anyone. I haven’t had a chance to do more thorough research.
But, if this matter is to be investigated by RCMP, let them also investigate the Dosanj and Stronach affairs, among others.
Dhimmis in Holland cower in the Zee of multiculturalism.
…-
Cabinet Panic over Koran Film
THE HAGUE, 01/03/08 – If Dutch companies, citizens and interests abroad are hurt following MP Geert Wilders’ film on the Koran, there is only one person responsible, according to Prime Minister Balkenende. “At this moment, a great responsibility is resting on Mr. Wilders”.
The cabinet on Friday produced an official statement that Prime Minister Balkenende read out after his weekly cabinet meeting. It was meant to smooth over remarks by Foreign Minister Maxime Verhagen that Wilders should cancel his film, due for release in March. “Do not broadcast it,” said Verhagen to public broadcaster NOS on Thursday night. …-
http://www.nisnews.nl/public/010308_1.htm
It was confirmed on the 4:00 news on Newstalk 980 Regina that the Tories are going to bring a motion into Parliament on Monday to end the Canadian Wheat Board monopoly on barley sales.
After being told by the courts on two separate occasions that this MUST be passed by Parliament, one can only assume that the only way the Tories can get the result that they are looking for is to make it a matter of confidence, so if it gets voted down we would be into an election.
The Liberals will be really backed into a corner because if they side with the Government to save their sorry-ass jobs they will again look like the enornous hypocrits that they are after crowing so long and hard that the monopoly must be kept in place.
Don,t you just love it?…PMSH outsmarts the stupid Liberals yet again!!
Shamrock,
I agree with you, Cadman may have been confused.
Both my father and my father-in-law died of cancer and they were very often confused in the last 6 months of their lives.
The drugs they were on reduced them to hapless people intellectually and confusion was common.
However, that being said if there was wrong doing I would punish those involved harshly despite being a conservative.
I would do this even knowing Liberals would give an Order Of Canada medal for similar behavior. Whoops I forgot, they already have!
Iberia,
But making disparaging remarks about you is so much more fun. Plus, there’s the added bonus that there’s a lot to work with.
Shamrock:
I think that in the event of death, Cadman’s family was only entitled to twice his yearly earnings, considerably less than the alleged $1M “insurance policy” he was offered.
irwin:
I could care less what kind of remarks you make about me…I just consider the source.
like a rock???, apparently the rocks properties are the schist
From Mike Duffy Live, CTV Newsnet, February 28:
Mike Duffy: “Can I share something with you, which I haven’t shared
publicly until now? … And that is in private conversations with
me, Chuck Cadman told me, that there was no way he was going to vote
against the Martin government, because he was concerned of the
potential impact it might have on the insurance settlement for his
wife Dona. In other words: if he died while a sitting MP, Chuck told
me, ‘that would double or virtually double the payout to his widow’
and he didn’t ‘dare take a risk forcing an election’, even if he was
confident of being elected, for fear of some legal hassle involving
an insurance payout
lberia, I’m just trying to provide context whereby Mrs Cadman misunderstood her husband, who maybe wasn’t quite clear enough, given he was dying and likely under pain medication.
As for your point about life insurance, as has been pointed out, again, and again, and again … terminally ill people don’t qualify for life insurance. That’s the terminology used – life insurance policy. You can spin that to mean whatever you want, but it would be idle speculation.
As I said, RCMP should investigate, as well as Grit offers made in the same time frame. It’s frankly amazing that people are trying to read into taped conversation of PM, but prepared to ignore Dosanj clearly offering a benefit, IMO an illegal benefit. Our MSM friends let Dosanj completely off hook on this one.
Like I said, double standard anyone?
Libs make warm fuzzy blanket offers? (Ujjal?)
Cons offer Cadman uncontested nomination.
Dion appoints women candidates.
Martin appoints Belinda.
MacKay sez dogs are loyal.
Some dogs bite posties.
is this all there is?
as good as it gets?
American Thinker:
“Canada, our friendly neighbor and number one foreign oil supplier.”
Hussein and Hillary: idiotarians*.
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The danger of Obama’s amateur diplomacy
Thomas Lifson
After suggesting that he would invade our ally Pakistan and talk to our enemy Iran, Barack Obama has moved on to potentially damage our relations with Canada, our friendly neighbor and number one foreign oil supplier.
Under the terms of NAFTA, Canada is prohibited from cutting off oil exports to the US if there is a worldwide shortage or supply disruption unless supplies are also rationed to Canadian consumers by the same amount.
After the Hillary/Obama debate, Canada’s trade minister pointed out that if NAFTA is re-opened, Canada might want to opt out of this clause, which would then leave Canada free to sell its oil to any other country for whatever price it could get.
http://tinyurl.com/3bhfur
*H/T LGF
This is the real thing. An insight to why some are cut down in Vancouver streets by gun and knife.
Actual Supreme Court account begins with stabbing 53 times and moves to other killings with many players.
Reality more gripping than any novel.
http://tinyurl.com/329frf
Exciting times in Vancouver, Richmond, Delta, Surrey and up the valley to Kent Max Security Prison. = TG