The real kicker: the new expose of Moore’s questionable methods was made by two progressive Canadians and former fans.
58 Replies to “News flash: Michael Moore fudges the truth”
Oh wow, you mean Michael Moore doesn’t always give us the absolute, complete, unbiased truth all the time? I’m shocked. appalled even. Though not really surprised…
It’s really not proper English sentance construction to use “Michael Moore” and “truth” in the same sentance as they are conflicting syllogisms. 🙂
My favorite gaff of “Moore Docu-fiction” was in the Columbine movie… he shows the bank clerk giving him a rifle for opening an account…as if they are so weak minded that they would allow a customer to have a firearm in the bank….the bank chain, when they saw the final edit on the segment in the film, told the press that the whole incident was “staged” that Moore told them to get the gun and hand it to him in the bank as part of a “promo” for the bank….the reality is that a customer opening an account who wanted to claim his free rifle, was given a voucher which he could redeem at the sporting goods store of his choice as long as he had all his federal and state fireams permits in order…there was NEVER any stock of rifles kept at the bank to give to customers as the film portrays.
Similarly Moore films a Kid in a Canadian Walmart selling him some ammunition….the Walmart chain had lter make it clear this was done to accomodate Moore’s wishes in making the movie…all customers buying ammo at Canadian Walmarts are required to show a federal firearms permit before they will sell to you….more staged “reality”
To me this revelation proved that Moore put on film things that are not the way reality dictates but the way he wished reality to be so it conformed with the paranoid suspicions/conspiracy theories of the fringe left….and it also revealed that this was his main audience…. as his distribution expanded he took fringe left mythology into the mainstream media machinery of Hollywood….but I don’t consider him successful in this…. and the only people I know who would view a MM flim as anything but partisan propaganda are ..in fact..fringe left.
Al Gore buys carbon credits from himself, Suzuki tours Canada in a rock star sized diesel fume spewing bus and Mikey Moore refuses to be interviewed. I think I’m going to church today, the end times are coming for sure.
How much truth ends up on the cutting floor… hmmm
This is the convergence of the moonbat left and the Islamofacists. Both are happy to use “taqiya” or “lying through their teeth” to achieve their goals for us.
Say it ain’t so. Not Michael.
“If you have to sell out your values and principles to get at a greater truth, where does that leave you?”
In the case of Mr. Moore it leaves you very wealthy.
The sweet irony of Moore’s films and books is that they can’t get enough of it in Europe or in other leftist drawing rooms around the world. They might refuse to eat a “Royale Cheese” but lap up his fast food Anti-Americanism. This pseudo lefty is a capitalist success story.
A documentary is the film version of the news …
Does it surprise anyone that in modern times facts are left out and lies are told in Documentaries in order to push the agenda of the film maker?
Just add him to the growing list of scam artists.
Who can bear to even look at the blob?
He’s like the all the rest of the extremists of the
Left, reality takes over in the minds of the masses and eventually pulls them down with a thud, in his case it should make a dent.
It’s the old story, you can fool some of the people some of the time…………!
Cal why do people like you have to point to Europe as if they are the only ones who buy into this crap. The film makers were a couple of lefty, Moore loving CANADIANS.
WLMR
Brilliant piece of work.
Syncro
2 more people with there eyes opened.
My ex wife went to school with Lardass Moore in Davison Michigan. She described him as a “loudmouth contrarian” nothing more.
Moore is simply and opportunist. Nothing he does is motivated by belief or principle. He knows that Leftards are gullible and will swallow his propaganda wholesale. Meanwhile, the whale is laughing all the way to the bank. He’s cashing in on the industry of Leftist propaganda and the Left could never admit to this, it’s against their religion.
“Cal why do people like you have to point to Europe as if they are the only ones who buy into this crap. The film makers were a couple of lefty, Moore loving CANADIANS.”
Posted by: Pissedoff at March 4, 2007 11:30 AM
Having trouble with reading comprehension, pal?
I’ll retype this very slowly for you,
“or in other leftist drawing rooms around the world”
Nuff said.
Syncro
I look to Hollywood & its environs as the very definition of deceit. In the name of entertainment.
One only has to count the times annually this time before Easter, that they put out an anti-Jesus film.
Men like James Cameron & Michael Moore are just meat puppets for the father of lies in my opinion.
This not only runs true for Religion but any history in general. At one time Hollywood admitted this. Poetic license, or just a story. Now its become the Truth no matter how outrageous or unbelievable!!!!
Really! How can you take people who’s profession is lying & pretending seriously? Celebrities today think their smarter than the rest of us. Fame & Money has insulated them from authenticity. Most don’t even graduate high school, yet think their saviors of the world or prophets by right of exposure to fame.
When in actuality they just sprout the misconceptions of the left who worship at the alter of celebrity. I guess if you had people hanging on every word in adoration you would begin to think your golden, & without peer too. You can see this drift even in a movie from the 40’s like “Aunt Mame”. Today because of no classical education to many have become less aware of what is real compared to fantasy in this illiterate age. People hardly read books of knowledge anymore, so there faculties for judgment have been impaired for any charlatan to come along with a good sounding bag of bull. Which they fall for not having an education in logic.
Just my opinion.
I look forward to seeing the film,”Manufacturing Dissent”. Will Moore sue?
Cal
Having trouble with reading comprehension, pal?
No buddy, but just like a lot of Canucks you point to Europe first. As I said these are CANADIANS first and foremost.
I typed that really slowly so you can understand, Canada is just as bad if not worse than Europe.
CBC knows what manufacturing the truth is all about, or just leave it out and that way you’re not lying.
Michael Moore AGAIN?!??!
How ironical – Michael on the run from some of his own ilk. It’s about time a few of them woke up to Moore’s antics.
Won’t that money-grubbing reality bending leftard ever go away?
Just retire already Michael. You’ve made enough millions seducing gullible nitwits with your distorted brand of ‘truth’.
My favourite “moore-ism” is when he stalked congressmen in Washington asking whether they would send their children to Iraq. What an ass!!
Hmmm, if your kids are under 18, they can’t join the army, and if they are over 18, they are adults.
…. and of course, once we start to dig deeper into this, we find out that there are way more Republican “kids” in the military than Dems. John Mcain’s son just shipped out to Iraq with little fanfare.
In other news, the sun rose in the East today and seems about to set in the West.
pissdoff shouted: “As I said these are CANADIANS first and foremost.”
Ohio is in Canada? When did Canada annex Ohio? …-
“Melnyk, 48, a native of Toronto and a freelance TV producer, who even now expounds on the good she says Moore has done. ”People go to see documentaries now and, as documentary makers, we’re grateful.”
But according to Caine, 46, an Ohio-born journalist and cameraman,” …- http://www.sltrib.com/homeandfamily/ci_5305468
And somebody has yet again discovered the clear blinding light of the dead obvious. Tomorrow somebody else is going to discover that if you roll a round object on the ground you can make it go really fast and he’ll try to patent it as a “wheel.” Zzzzzz.
peedoff
i I typed that really slowly so you can understand, Canada is just as bad if not worse than Europe.
silence is golden
thusly if’n you adhere to the golden rule you may appear informed
as it stands you you appear foolish, as I,m from Europe, and nooope, us,n kanuks ain’t able to hold a candle to the leftards over there
Bowling for Columbine was nothing but lies fruad and half truths and so is AL GORES junk science ego trip A INCONVENT TRUTH i mean its all a fruad there should be a congresional or senatorial investigation into these award shows
in the columbine thing, he went to and interviewed a bunch of michigan home guard types on ‘manouvers’.
all decked out in cammo gear.
I enquired to manys a subscriber on a previous blog what intent and effect the self-appointed ‘civil defence’ types were trying to achieve.
talk about hostile reaction, oyph.
I then pointed out that in canada you are politely asked to LEAVE the firing range if you show up in cammo gear.
cammo gear is for urban gerillas and hunters who conceal themselves from their prey or professional soldiers. I concluded the costumes were intended to create an ‘image’ or a reaction of awe.
they were TOTALLY unnecessary for what the participants were doing. moore was accused of misrepresenting his interest as if no one in friggin michigan knew who he was after scooping an academy award for the roger thing.
the self-appointed home guard guys KNEW who he was and KNEW he was filming them, to then later whine about how he ‘misrepresented’ their words and actions was farcical.
put your hand up, how many you anto-Bowling for Columbiners think it was perfectly acceptable and appropriate for charlie heston aka moses to show up within days, at columbine, at an nra rally?
despite the shock and condemnation of the families of the victims ????
pretty insensitive I would say.
yes, but that is the beauty of the American way…everyone is free to make as big an idiot out of themselves that they please….left or right, Heston or Moore…both are frickin IDIOTS!
With all due respect to robertbollocks, if I hear much more chatter about “insensitivity” from this, that, or the other group of the Sensitive and Vocal, I’m going to come out shooting.
Michael Moore fudges with the truth???
For crying out loud…..just file that under “No Shite Sherlock!”….
Who on this planet would be surprised?
I think a ‘Christopher Columbus’ award should go to these new film makers. For discovering what was already there.
Big problem is the big fat blob will get to keep his
money gained by BIG FAT LIES.
Hope it was largely from Leftist Moon Bats.
Have to worry equally about people like Gore and Suzuki getting access to our Kids with their
propaganda.
The NRA convention was scheduled months if not years in advance. Trying to stop it in a days notice was impossible. Having said that the NRA has nothing to do with Columbine. The NRA does not advocate school shootings and if you’re too ignorant to figure out the difference between legal use of firearms (which the NRA supports) and criminal use of them (which the left seems to have little problem with) then maybe it’s time you took a class in logical thinking.
Actually, we should stop using the word “progressive” for the left wing. The word really has a positive connotation to it and therefore it does not accurately reflect the left wing.
Balloks boy used dylexic moralizing to come up with this mind fart: “how many you anto-Bowling for Columbiners think it was perfectly acceptable and appropriate for charlie heston aka moses to show up within days, at columbine, at an nra rally? despite the shock and condemnation of the families of the victims ????
pretty insensitive I would say.”
So how many of you fraudulent moralists think it was OK for out of state leftoid retards to pick, slnder and physically assault NRA attendants…even thought they had sheduled the meeting months in advance and members were flying in from all over the nation….contrary to your insinuation the NRA had nothing to do with the Columbine murders and represents responsible lawful firearms owners who exercise 2nd amend ment constitutional rights.
To fly inn professional protestors to piss and moan about an event that has nothing to do with the plight of crime victims is the height of “insensitivity…and constitutional civility as well…but then again the degenerate left wants to deconstruct the constitution…so I guess their “insensitivity” is secondary to their anti-American and uncivil behaviour.
Stranely enough It was Heston who was on the ground supporting their 1st amendment rights to free speech and who marched in the 60s to end civil rights abuse in the south….but you knew that Robert, before you made such an intellectualy dishonest rebuff of the man.
If you didn’t then you’re really not as intelligent as you pretend to be on this issue.
“put your hand up, how many you anto-Bowling for Columbiners think it was perfectly acceptable and appropriate for charlie heston aka moses to show up within days, at columbine, at an nra rally?”
“.everyone is free to make as big an idiot out of themselves that they please….left or right, Heston or Moore…both are frickin IDIOTS!:”
bollocks & kingstonlad you might be interested in this:
Heston’s “cold dead hands” speech, which leads off Moore’s depiction of the Denver meeting, was not given at Denver after Columbine. It was given a year later in Charlotte, North Carolina, and was a response to his being given the musket, a collector’s piece, at that annual meeting. Bowling leads off with this speech, and then splices in footage which was taken in Denver and refers to Denver, to create the impression that the entire clip was taken at the Denver event.
Fact: When Bowling continues on to the speech which Heston did give in Denver, it carefully edits it to change its theme.
Moore’s fabrication here cannot be described by any polite term. It is a lie, a fraud, and quite a few other things. Carrying it out required a LOT of editing to mislead the viewer…
Moore has actually taken audio of seven sentences, from five different parts of the speech, and a section given in a different speech entirely, and spliced them together, to create a speech that was never given. Each edit is cleverly covered by inserting a still or video footage for a few seconds. http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=6841
The problem with MM’s films it that it isn’t just leftoids that swallow his lies hook line and sinker.
I have downtown Toronto friends … I know, I know, you’ll say they’re leftoids .. .well no, not all of them, some even vote Conservative and they keep insisting that I must see F911 and that will prove once for all that Bush/Cheney/Halliburton and their pals in the Bin Laden family are the cause for the Iraq invasion . .it’s all about oil because MM says so.
I’ve meet rational, more or less conservative European executives, who will say the same thing. Then when I say MM is a fraud .. they’ll go … oh you North Americans ,it’s only a movie, lighten up, don’t take it so seriously. I respond that I wouldn’t take it so seriously if they’d stop using MM movies to try and prove that Bush is behind all that is wrong with the ME . .on it goes.
My point is … that one of the reason Canadians are so anti-American is because half of America is anti-American, led by Hollywood and their MSM. We import this MM crap into Canada and into the EU and it’s a serious problem . .for our environment. We need to trade MM emission credits for some 24 TV series credits . .Kiefer Sutherland’s ours right?
yo, william lyon et al:
moses was under NO OBLIGATION to speak at the nra rally, he could have bowed out. it was 10 days later at denver actually, plenty of time to find an alternate speaker.
as far as the quip about shooting up the place in response to the ‘sensivity’ question, how the &%!^&@# do you think the families felt seeing all that in their midst? there was LOTS of time to announce cancellation of the whole thing, not like it was the same friggin day but noooo, nra did it to rub in the faces of their fellow countrymen who dont think you get armed to the gills just because you have a right.
nra is in favour of bloody assault rifles fer cryin out loud. they are ONLY good for robbery and killing humans. no challenge whatsoever on a target range to just spray away and if anyone used one for hunting I would not care to consume the meat.
nra is a very powerful lobby and are partly responsible for the 30 deaths every DAY in the great US of A from guns.
spoken like a true ‘moonbat’ eh ?
oh and this is aimed at you geoff w, I put 20 out of 20 rounds in my handgun qualification target when I signed on with niagara region cop auxilary.
only 1 other in the whole bunch and judging by the banter he was vastly more experienced.
I didnt get so much as a ‘very good’ or ‘gee bollocks, did you cheat or sumptin’. no, all I got was an awkward silence until I came up with a very very stinging comment about the silence treatment.
so if you wanna ‘come out shooting’ geoffy babe I’ll put 3 rounds in you before you hit the floor.
I remember reading that the NRA meeting in Denver was actually the AGM and by law could not be cancelled.
All other convention events and gun shows were cancelled, but, by law, the AGM had to be held.
The Moore made splicy splicy with the speech.
But for me he truly went cukoo when he accused Dick Clark of murder.
To robertbollocks:
Suh, that is a challenge and we shall meet on the field of honor to settle our differences like gentlemen. At ten paces… mark!(fade to commercial).
Threatining to shoot each other over the internet is a lot like “OH YEA MY OLD MAN CAN WHIP YOUR OLD MAN” Grow up kids.
Robert, your ignorance of so called “assault rifles” nicely outlines your general lack of knowledge. First of all it should not matter what type of gun anyone owns. The problem is NOT the gun it is the owner. Secondly, “assault rifles” fire the same cartridges that are used in hunting rifles, most often the 308 winchester and the 223. The 223 is not a suitable deer cartridge as it does not meet the .24 calibre requirement most (if not all) provinces require for big game hunting. The 308 winchester is however an excellent cartridge for deer, bear, and many other big game animals. The 223 is an excellent cartridge for coyote, and other vermin.
The fact that you are unable to distinguish criminal fault between an inanimate object and a human being demonstrates why leftards are not only incapable of properly running a country but also why they should have standard intelligence tests before allowing people to vote for said governments. Your statement of your shooting ability and then threatening to kill someone further illustrates why leftards are scared to allow “normal” people to own guns…they think everyone else is as bloodthirsty and as filled with hate as they are.
It is my hope that someday all voters would be intelligent enough to make rational choices when stepping up to the ballot box rather than voting based on irrational fears that have been “installed” into irrational sheeple.
Good luck with your treatments.
I don’t think these two women get it yet.
SNIP:
“”If you have to sell out your values and principles to get at a greater truth, where does that leave you?” said Melnyk. “If we think it’s wrong for the Government to lie and manipulate, how do we think that (left-wingers) doing it is the solution?” ”
…get at a greater truth?
Truth has degress now?
How about the real truth, the factual truth or hey, the plain truth?
The last statement is astounding to me, that they can’t draw a line of maybe, just maybe, the ‘left’ has lied and manipulated to hide, that their holy “greater” truth doesn’t exist.
I am astounded that anyone would choose to believe any of the MM stuff. Anyone reasonable would only need to be informed of any one single lie exposed and they would at least be suspicious of what they thought was truth. It would seem that there is way too much at stake for the Leftoids to admit their hero is lying. http://www.davekopel.com/terror/59Deceits.pdf is a review of Faren height 9/11 by a Lawyer and civil rights advocate. Check out some of his charges and see for yourself if they hold water.
Follows an opinion of the movie made to expose MM lies and the web site where it can be found. It took me all of 2 minutes to find this so anyone who is serious about knowing the truth has no excuse for ignorance. The movie Faren-Hype 9/11 is available for sale in DVD format. Just Google it.
“This movie completely destroys the credibility of Michael Moore. People in the film acknowledged how they were ‘duped’ by Moore and taken out of context. Well done. I was embarrassed for Moore while viewing this film. I am a former fan of Michael Moore – but now he will be considered completely ignorant. I am a democrat and was curious about Fahrenheit 9/11 because things in Moore’s story just didn’t seem to add up logically. The guy clearly has an extreme left wing agenda and will propagate any way possible. If you want to see what even Hollywood insiders think of Moore – a very liberal gang – see Team America: World Police. Surely a ridiculous movie, but it is fun to see Moore get blown up – as he is as a result of FarenHYPE!!!!” http://imdb.com/title/tt0427228/
And by the way: FarenHype 9/11 is made and features mostly Democrats. It seem even they want to distance themselves from MM. MM represents an extreme element most reasonable Demo’s want to distance themselves from for fear they will keep the party in the political wilderness.
“Kathy “the Cunt” Shaidle.
…ha, ha, ha….I’m hilarious just like Ann Coulter!”Posted by: Minion #48583 at March 4, 2007 6:43 PM
OMG…runaway and hide Kathy. Minion used the verboten “C” word!! As my wife says, thanks for calling me a cunt,at least it is useful,unlike minion. He’s probably still sitting in Mommie’s basement,j**king off to the fact that he got to use the word…LOL
He’s basicaly the left’s answer to Coulter, although not quite as vicious he’s ultimately unreliable.
“I then pointed out that in canada you are politely asked to LEAVE the firing range if you show up in cammo gear.
cammo gear is for urban gerillas and hunters who conceal themselves from their prey or professional soldiers. I concluded the costumes were intended to create an ‘image’ or a reaction of awe.”
Really?? Funny, I’ve worn my camo to the grocery store, to the movies, and all over town. I’m sure I’ve worn it to the range as well…funny thing…nobody ever said a word. I assume you live in and were referring to Eastern “Canada” as opposed to Canada.
Please keep in mind that western Canada is dominated by clear thinking intelligent people with common sense in contrast to people that vote for one of the “other” parties.
Oh wow, you mean Michael Moore doesn’t always give us the absolute, complete, unbiased truth all the time? I’m shocked. appalled even. Though not really surprised…
It’s really not proper English sentance construction to use “Michael Moore” and “truth” in the same sentance as they are conflicting syllogisms. 🙂
My favorite gaff of “Moore Docu-fiction” was in the Columbine movie… he shows the bank clerk giving him a rifle for opening an account…as if they are so weak minded that they would allow a customer to have a firearm in the bank….the bank chain, when they saw the final edit on the segment in the film, told the press that the whole incident was “staged” that Moore told them to get the gun and hand it to him in the bank as part of a “promo” for the bank….the reality is that a customer opening an account who wanted to claim his free rifle, was given a voucher which he could redeem at the sporting goods store of his choice as long as he had all his federal and state fireams permits in order…there was NEVER any stock of rifles kept at the bank to give to customers as the film portrays.
Similarly Moore films a Kid in a Canadian Walmart selling him some ammunition….the Walmart chain had lter make it clear this was done to accomodate Moore’s wishes in making the movie…all customers buying ammo at Canadian Walmarts are required to show a federal firearms permit before they will sell to you….more staged “reality”
To me this revelation proved that Moore put on film things that are not the way reality dictates but the way he wished reality to be so it conformed with the paranoid suspicions/conspiracy theories of the fringe left….and it also revealed that this was his main audience…. as his distribution expanded he took fringe left mythology into the mainstream media machinery of Hollywood….but I don’t consider him successful in this…. and the only people I know who would view a MM flim as anything but partisan propaganda are ..in fact..fringe left.
Al Gore buys carbon credits from himself, Suzuki tours Canada in a rock star sized diesel fume spewing bus and Mikey Moore refuses to be interviewed. I think I’m going to church today, the end times are coming for sure.
How much truth ends up on the cutting floor… hmmm
This is the convergence of the moonbat left and the Islamofacists. Both are happy to use “taqiya” or “lying through their teeth” to achieve their goals for us.
Say it ain’t so. Not Michael.
“If you have to sell out your values and principles to get at a greater truth, where does that leave you?”
In the case of Mr. Moore it leaves you very wealthy.
The sweet irony of Moore’s films and books is that they can’t get enough of it in Europe or in other leftist drawing rooms around the world. They might refuse to eat a “Royale Cheese” but lap up his fast food Anti-Americanism. This pseudo lefty is a capitalist success story.
A documentary is the film version of the news …
Does it surprise anyone that in modern times facts are left out and lies are told in Documentaries in order to push the agenda of the film maker?
Just add him to the growing list of scam artists.
Who can bear to even look at the blob?
He’s like the all the rest of the extremists of the
Left, reality takes over in the minds of the masses and eventually pulls them down with a thud, in his case it should make a dent.
It’s the old story, you can fool some of the people some of the time…………!
Cal why do people like you have to point to Europe as if they are the only ones who buy into this crap. The film makers were a couple of lefty, Moore loving CANADIANS.
WLMR
Brilliant piece of work.
Syncro
2 more people with there eyes opened.
My ex wife went to school with Lardass Moore in Davison Michigan. She described him as a “loudmouth contrarian” nothing more.
Moore is simply and opportunist. Nothing he does is motivated by belief or principle. He knows that Leftards are gullible and will swallow his propaganda wholesale. Meanwhile, the whale is laughing all the way to the bank. He’s cashing in on the industry of Leftist propaganda and the Left could never admit to this, it’s against their religion.
“Cal why do people like you have to point to Europe as if they are the only ones who buy into this crap. The film makers were a couple of lefty, Moore loving CANADIANS.”
Posted by: Pissedoff at March 4, 2007 11:30 AM
Having trouble with reading comprehension, pal?
I’ll retype this very slowly for you,
“or in other leftist drawing rooms around the world”
Nuff said.
Syncro
I look to Hollywood & its environs as the very definition of deceit. In the name of entertainment.
One only has to count the times annually this time before Easter, that they put out an anti-Jesus film.
Men like James Cameron & Michael Moore are just meat puppets for the father of lies in my opinion.
This not only runs true for Religion but any history in general. At one time Hollywood admitted this. Poetic license, or just a story. Now its become the Truth no matter how outrageous or unbelievable!!!!
Really! How can you take people who’s profession is lying & pretending seriously? Celebrities today think their smarter than the rest of us. Fame & Money has insulated them from authenticity. Most don’t even graduate high school, yet think their saviors of the world or prophets by right of exposure to fame.
When in actuality they just sprout the misconceptions of the left who worship at the alter of celebrity. I guess if you had people hanging on every word in adoration you would begin to think your golden, & without peer too. You can see this drift even in a movie from the 40’s like “Aunt Mame”. Today because of no classical education to many have become less aware of what is real compared to fantasy in this illiterate age. People hardly read books of knowledge anymore, so there faculties for judgment have been impaired for any charlatan to come along with a good sounding bag of bull. Which they fall for not having an education in logic.
Just my opinion.
I look forward to seeing the film,”Manufacturing Dissent”. Will Moore sue?
Cal
Having trouble with reading comprehension, pal?
No buddy, but just like a lot of Canucks you point to Europe first. As I said these are CANADIANS first and foremost.
I typed that really slowly so you can understand, Canada is just as bad if not worse than Europe.
CBC knows what manufacturing the truth is all about, or just leave it out and that way you’re not lying.
Michael Moore AGAIN?!??!
How ironical – Michael on the run from some of his own ilk. It’s about time a few of them woke up to Moore’s antics.
Won’t that money-grubbing reality bending leftard ever go away?
Just retire already Michael. You’ve made enough millions seducing gullible nitwits with your distorted brand of ‘truth’.
My favourite “moore-ism” is when he stalked congressmen in Washington asking whether they would send their children to Iraq. What an ass!!
Hmmm, if your kids are under 18, they can’t join the army, and if they are over 18, they are adults.
…. and of course, once we start to dig deeper into this, we find out that there are way more Republican “kids” in the military than Dems. John Mcain’s son just shipped out to Iraq with little fanfare.
In other news, the sun rose in the East today and seems about to set in the West.
pissdoff shouted: “As I said these are CANADIANS first and foremost.”
Ohio is in Canada? When did Canada annex Ohio? …-
“Melnyk, 48, a native of Toronto and a freelance TV producer, who even now expounds on the good she says Moore has done. ”People go to see documentaries now and, as documentary makers, we’re grateful.”
But according to Caine, 46, an Ohio-born journalist and cameraman,” …-
http://www.sltrib.com/homeandfamily/ci_5305468
And somebody has yet again discovered the clear blinding light of the dead obvious. Tomorrow somebody else is going to discover that if you roll a round object on the ground you can make it go really fast and he’ll try to patent it as a “wheel.” Zzzzzz.
peedoff
i I typed that really slowly so you can understand, Canada is just as bad if not worse than Europe.
silence is golden
thusly if’n you adhere to the golden rule you may appear informed
as it stands you you appear foolish, as I,m from Europe, and nooope, us,n kanuks ain’t able to hold a candle to the leftards over there
Bowling for Columbine was nothing but lies fruad and half truths and so is AL GORES junk science ego trip A INCONVENT TRUTH i mean its all a fruad there should be a congresional or senatorial investigation into these award shows
in the columbine thing, he went to and interviewed a bunch of michigan home guard types on ‘manouvers’.
all decked out in cammo gear.
I enquired to manys a subscriber on a previous blog what intent and effect the self-appointed ‘civil defence’ types were trying to achieve.
talk about hostile reaction, oyph.
I then pointed out that in canada you are politely asked to LEAVE the firing range if you show up in cammo gear.
cammo gear is for urban gerillas and hunters who conceal themselves from their prey or professional soldiers. I concluded the costumes were intended to create an ‘image’ or a reaction of awe.
they were TOTALLY unnecessary for what the participants were doing. moore was accused of misrepresenting his interest as if no one in friggin michigan knew who he was after scooping an academy award for the roger thing.
the self-appointed home guard guys KNEW who he was and KNEW he was filming them, to then later whine about how he ‘misrepresented’ their words and actions was farcical.
put your hand up, how many you anto-Bowling for Columbiners think it was perfectly acceptable and appropriate for charlie heston aka moses to show up within days, at columbine, at an nra rally?
despite the shock and condemnation of the families of the victims ????
pretty insensitive I would say.
yes, but that is the beauty of the American way…everyone is free to make as big an idiot out of themselves that they please….left or right, Heston or Moore…both are frickin IDIOTS!
With all due respect to robertbollocks, if I hear much more chatter about “insensitivity” from this, that, or the other group of the Sensitive and Vocal, I’m going to come out shooting.
Michael Moore fudges with the truth???
For crying out loud…..just file that under “No Shite Sherlock!”….
Who on this planet would be surprised?
I think a ‘Christopher Columbus’ award should go to these new film makers. For discovering what was already there.
Big problem is the big fat blob will get to keep his
money gained by BIG FAT LIES.
Hope it was largely from Leftist Moon Bats.
Have to worry equally about people like Gore and Suzuki getting access to our Kids with their
propaganda.
The NRA convention was scheduled months if not years in advance. Trying to stop it in a days notice was impossible. Having said that the NRA has nothing to do with Columbine. The NRA does not advocate school shootings and if you’re too ignorant to figure out the difference between legal use of firearms (which the NRA supports) and criminal use of them (which the left seems to have little problem with) then maybe it’s time you took a class in logical thinking.
Actually, we should stop using the word “progressive” for the left wing. The word really has a positive connotation to it and therefore it does not accurately reflect the left wing.
Balloks boy used dylexic moralizing to come up with this mind fart: “how many you anto-Bowling for Columbiners think it was perfectly acceptable and appropriate for charlie heston aka moses to show up within days, at columbine, at an nra rally? despite the shock and condemnation of the families of the victims ????
pretty insensitive I would say.”
So how many of you fraudulent moralists think it was OK for out of state leftoid retards to pick, slnder and physically assault NRA attendants…even thought they had sheduled the meeting months in advance and members were flying in from all over the nation….contrary to your insinuation the NRA had nothing to do with the Columbine murders and represents responsible lawful firearms owners who exercise 2nd amend ment constitutional rights.
To fly inn professional protestors to piss and moan about an event that has nothing to do with the plight of crime victims is the height of “insensitivity…and constitutional civility as well…but then again the degenerate left wants to deconstruct the constitution…so I guess their “insensitivity” is secondary to their anti-American and uncivil behaviour.
Stranely enough It was Heston who was on the ground supporting their 1st amendment rights to free speech and who marched in the 60s to end civil rights abuse in the south….but you knew that Robert, before you made such an intellectualy dishonest rebuff of the man.
If you didn’t then you’re really not as intelligent as you pretend to be on this issue.
“put your hand up, how many you anto-Bowling for Columbiners think it was perfectly acceptable and appropriate for charlie heston aka moses to show up within days, at columbine, at an nra rally?”
“.everyone is free to make as big an idiot out of themselves that they please….left or right, Heston or Moore…both are frickin IDIOTS!:”
bollocks & kingstonlad you might be interested in this:
Heston’s “cold dead hands” speech, which leads off Moore’s depiction of the Denver meeting, was not given at Denver after Columbine. It was given a year later in Charlotte, North Carolina, and was a response to his being given the musket, a collector’s piece, at that annual meeting. Bowling leads off with this speech, and then splices in footage which was taken in Denver and refers to Denver, to create the impression that the entire clip was taken at the Denver event.
Fact: When Bowling continues on to the speech which Heston did give in Denver, it carefully edits it to change its theme.
Moore’s fabrication here cannot be described by any polite term. It is a lie, a fraud, and quite a few other things. Carrying it out required a LOT of editing to mislead the viewer…
Moore has actually taken audio of seven sentences, from five different parts of the speech, and a section given in a different speech entirely, and spliced them together, to create a speech that was never given. Each edit is cleverly covered by inserting a still or video footage for a few seconds.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=6841
The problem with MM’s films it that it isn’t just leftoids that swallow his lies hook line and sinker.
I have downtown Toronto friends … I know, I know, you’ll say they’re leftoids .. .well no, not all of them, some even vote Conservative and they keep insisting that I must see F911 and that will prove once for all that Bush/Cheney/Halliburton and their pals in the Bin Laden family are the cause for the Iraq invasion . .it’s all about oil because MM says so.
I’ve meet rational, more or less conservative European executives, who will say the same thing. Then when I say MM is a fraud .. they’ll go … oh you North Americans ,it’s only a movie, lighten up, don’t take it so seriously. I respond that I wouldn’t take it so seriously if they’d stop using MM movies to try and prove that Bush is behind all that is wrong with the ME . .on it goes.
My point is … that one of the reason Canadians are so anti-American is because half of America is anti-American, led by Hollywood and their MSM. We import this MM crap into Canada and into the EU and it’s a serious problem . .for our environment. We need to trade MM emission credits for some 24 TV series credits . .Kiefer Sutherland’s ours right?
yo, william lyon et al:
moses was under NO OBLIGATION to speak at the nra rally, he could have bowed out. it was 10 days later at denver actually, plenty of time to find an alternate speaker.
as far as the quip about shooting up the place in response to the ‘sensivity’ question, how the &%!^&@# do you think the families felt seeing all that in their midst? there was LOTS of time to announce cancellation of the whole thing, not like it was the same friggin day but noooo, nra did it to rub in the faces of their fellow countrymen who dont think you get armed to the gills just because you have a right.
nra is in favour of bloody assault rifles fer cryin out loud. they are ONLY good for robbery and killing humans. no challenge whatsoever on a target range to just spray away and if anyone used one for hunting I would not care to consume the meat.
nra is a very powerful lobby and are partly responsible for the 30 deaths every DAY in the great US of A from guns.
spoken like a true ‘moonbat’ eh ?
oh and this is aimed at you geoff w, I put 20 out of 20 rounds in my handgun qualification target when I signed on with niagara region cop auxilary.
only 1 other in the whole bunch and judging by the banter he was vastly more experienced.
I didnt get so much as a ‘very good’ or ‘gee bollocks, did you cheat or sumptin’. no, all I got was an awkward silence until I came up with a very very stinging comment about the silence treatment.
so if you wanna ‘come out shooting’ geoffy babe I’ll put 3 rounds in you before you hit the floor.
I remember reading that the NRA meeting in Denver was actually the AGM and by law could not be cancelled.
All other convention events and gun shows were cancelled, but, by law, the AGM had to be held.
The Moore made splicy splicy with the speech.
But for me he truly went cukoo when he accused Dick Clark of murder.
To robertbollocks:
Suh, that is a challenge and we shall meet on the field of honor to settle our differences like gentlemen. At ten paces… mark!(fade to commercial).
Threatining to shoot each other over the internet is a lot like “OH YEA MY OLD MAN CAN WHIP YOUR OLD MAN” Grow up kids.
Robert, your ignorance of so called “assault rifles” nicely outlines your general lack of knowledge. First of all it should not matter what type of gun anyone owns. The problem is NOT the gun it is the owner. Secondly, “assault rifles” fire the same cartridges that are used in hunting rifles, most often the 308 winchester and the 223. The 223 is not a suitable deer cartridge as it does not meet the .24 calibre requirement most (if not all) provinces require for big game hunting. The 308 winchester is however an excellent cartridge for deer, bear, and many other big game animals. The 223 is an excellent cartridge for coyote, and other vermin.
The fact that you are unable to distinguish criminal fault between an inanimate object and a human being demonstrates why leftards are not only incapable of properly running a country but also why they should have standard intelligence tests before allowing people to vote for said governments. Your statement of your shooting ability and then threatening to kill someone further illustrates why leftards are scared to allow “normal” people to own guns…they think everyone else is as bloodthirsty and as filled with hate as they are.
It is my hope that someday all voters would be intelligent enough to make rational choices when stepping up to the ballot box rather than voting based on irrational fears that have been “installed” into irrational sheeple.
Good luck with your treatments.
I don’t think these two women get it yet.
SNIP:
“”If you have to sell out your values and principles to get at a greater truth, where does that leave you?” said Melnyk. “If we think it’s wrong for the Government to lie and manipulate, how do we think that (left-wingers) doing it is the solution?” ”
…get at a greater truth?
Truth has degress now?
How about the real truth, the factual truth or hey, the plain truth?
The last statement is astounding to me, that they can’t draw a line of maybe, just maybe, the ‘left’ has lied and manipulated to hide, that their holy “greater” truth doesn’t exist.
I am astounded that anyone would choose to believe any of the MM stuff. Anyone reasonable would only need to be informed of any one single lie exposed and they would at least be suspicious of what they thought was truth. It would seem that there is way too much at stake for the Leftoids to admit their hero is lying.
http://www.davekopel.com/terror/59Deceits.pdf is a review of Faren height 9/11 by a Lawyer and civil rights advocate. Check out some of his charges and see for yourself if they hold water.
Follows an opinion of the movie made to expose MM lies and the web site where it can be found. It took me all of 2 minutes to find this so anyone who is serious about knowing the truth has no excuse for ignorance. The movie Faren-Hype 9/11 is available for sale in DVD format. Just Google it.
“This movie completely destroys the credibility of Michael Moore. People in the film acknowledged how they were ‘duped’ by Moore and taken out of context. Well done. I was embarrassed for Moore while viewing this film. I am a former fan of Michael Moore – but now he will be considered completely ignorant. I am a democrat and was curious about Fahrenheit 9/11 because things in Moore’s story just didn’t seem to add up logically. The guy clearly has an extreme left wing agenda and will propagate any way possible. If you want to see what even Hollywood insiders think of Moore – a very liberal gang – see Team America: World Police. Surely a ridiculous movie, but it is fun to see Moore get blown up – as he is as a result of FarenHYPE!!!!”
http://imdb.com/title/tt0427228/
And by the way: FarenHype 9/11 is made and features mostly Democrats. It seem even they want to distance themselves from MM. MM represents an extreme element most reasonable Demo’s want to distance themselves from for fear they will keep the party in the political wilderness.
“Kathy “the Cunt” Shaidle.
…ha, ha, ha….I’m hilarious just like Ann Coulter!”Posted by: Minion #48583 at March 4, 2007 6:43 PM
OMG…runaway and hide Kathy. Minion used the verboten “C” word!! As my wife says, thanks for calling me a cunt,at least it is useful,unlike minion. He’s probably still sitting in Mommie’s basement,j**king off to the fact that he got to use the word…LOL
He’s basicaly the left’s answer to Coulter, although not quite as vicious he’s ultimately unreliable.
“I then pointed out that in canada you are politely asked to LEAVE the firing range if you show up in cammo gear.
cammo gear is for urban gerillas and hunters who conceal themselves from their prey or professional soldiers. I concluded the costumes were intended to create an ‘image’ or a reaction of awe.”
Really?? Funny, I’ve worn my camo to the grocery store, to the movies, and all over town. I’m sure I’ve worn it to the range as well…funny thing…nobody ever said a word. I assume you live in and were referring to Eastern “Canada” as opposed to Canada.
Please keep in mind that western Canada is dominated by clear thinking intelligent people with common sense in contrast to people that vote for one of the “other” parties.