85 Replies to “Y2Kyoto: The Documentary”

  2. Greg Weston has a new name for dion, that will probably stick, in his story re the ads.
    dion=Dr Did Little

  5. I hope someone will be following the great david with a digital camera and posting pics of him breaking environmental rules, especially what he drives or rides in, what he is wearing and what he eats. Of course none of the above will cause any GHG, energy, waste etc. Sorry to see Anne Murray in the fray.
    Income trusts will be the topic today, and Harper is getting heat for a broken promise. Time to list all the broken promises of the liberals, no wage and price controls, no raising excise tax on gas, no gst, no NAFTA, national daycare, to name a few. Add to the list.

  6. Thanks for the link Lakeshore Observer. I’ll be sending it to a few higher purpose persons.

  7. “The sky is falling, the sky is falling!!”
    All brought to you by the Big RED Rooster and Chicken Little.

  8. Che Suzuki. Hillarious poster.
    Wage and price controls, Mary T? Do you really have to go back to the mid-70s to find broken Liberal promises?

  9. “Remember headlines late last year such as “Greenhouse gases help make 2006 warmest year ever”? What didn’t get reported was the fact those doom-laden records were based on only the first 11 months of last year. When the temperatures for December were added to the mix last week, 2006 turned out to be the coolest year in the past five.”
    In the meantime, based on mantra repitition in the media, the unwashed masses believe there’s apocalyptic climate change happening right now and unless we all do something, we’re all going to die.
    Western energy generation, transportation and manufacturing infrastructure is Satan. And Kyoto is the messiah.
    Wooeee. Meanwhile Gore, Strong, Chretien, and the rest of the UN mafia are investing in China, as dollars from the purchase of Zellers coupon carbon credits pour in – all of which China uses to build 500 more coal burning plants.
    This is rackateering, no?

  10. Suzuki must be challenged to a public debate with Singer. Would Suzuki accept?
    Gore has refused to debate with Singer.
    The following dates back to 1997/1992. …-
    SEPP News Release:
    Physicist S. Fred Singer Challenges Government Scientists to a Public Debate on Global Warming
    Calls on Congress to Set the Time and Place
    WASHINGTON, D.C., OCTOBER 30, 1997
    [Excerpt:]
    A bit of history:
    On January 27, 1992, then-Senator Albert Gore was scheduled to appear on “Larry King Live” to discuss the global warming issue. When he learned that Dr. Fred Singer had been booked to appear on the same program, Gore backed out, saying that he “could not appear under those circumstances.” The segment was canceled. A week later, Larry King agreed to let Gore back on the show, alone and unchallenged. …-
    http://www.sepp.org/Archive/Publications/pressrel/challenge.html

  11. Yep, sure makes a lot sense to send carbon credits to China to build more coal fired plants.
    Only idiots with a VESTED interest in that human rights abusing country would be able to close their eyes to such outrageous waste of our money.
    If Kyoto isn’t the scam of the century, it’s close to it.
    It’s fitting that so many washed up and dried up celebrities and politicos hop on the bandwagon of all the Lefty causes. Nothing to give and nothing to lose. It’s over.

  13. While the bus is polluting the environment, Suzuki will be flying in his ozone builder, the new Focker Wolf II special. Here come da bus!

  14. Yeah…Gore is such an easy target for his hype and hysteria making that I can’t believe the press can ignore it.
    When he was on Leno promoting his crappy flick, he started off by saying something to the effect of, “The debate is over, all scientists now agree that global warming is a fact.”
    Just last week, I was skimming through my old copy of Rush Limbaugh’s “See, I Told You So”. To my amazement, Rush quotes Gore in May of 1993 of saying the exact same thing.
    So, for 13 years, Gore has been declaring the debate as being finally over. That’s a long time just to get the word out that something is finished.

  15. Awesome poster Kate…could ya print some up so I could put one on the back of my gas-guzzlin suv??Anyone else reminded of Kim Jong Il,by that photo of Suzuki? Now that’s scary!

  16. Dr. David is the poster boy for Stephane Dion’s
    “substanability”
    where we all get a substandard way of life as he idolized in Cuba.

  17. No I don’t have to go back to the 70s, there are many much more recent ones, but I want voters to know that libs have been breaking promises since their god trudeau was elected. Whats the matter, you don’t like to be reminded of the reason AB will never vote liberal.

  18. as Patrick Moore stated in his interview with Penn in Vegas, the enviro movement was hi-jacked by all the displaced commies and socialists after the collapse of communism….these moonbat/dippers/whackjobs do not care about the environment, they want to bring down ‘the man’….they are still living is some pseudo utopian socialist dream world, yet avail themselves to all the comforts provided by ‘the man’….MOONBAT IDIOTS!

  19. If ‘global warming’ were true – what would be the downside for Canadians? A shorter winter? A longer growing season? Access to our Northwest passage? More trees?
    The only downside would be if the government took billions more dollars off of our paycheques and sent it to China for ‘credits’.
    Unfortunately, no one can predict what the climate will do – we’re just as likely to get an Ice Age as have a warm period. No one can yet explain why we’ve had Ice Ages and warm periods in the past.
    Today’s alarmists can afford to make movies and produce a ‘scientific’ paper every week, it’s a pretty slick production. And indicates that there’s too much money tied up in this issue already – they’ll want to keep that coming.

  20. Loved the line in the Press release that says that people like Rick Mercer are lending their support because this is not a partisan issue!
    Sorry, but I believe Rick Mercers support or participation automatically defines that particular issue as partisan.
    How do these guys release this stuff with a straight face?

  21. From the link:
    “If you were Prime Minister, what would you do for the environment?”
    I would start by banning David Suzuki. All those hot air emissions he’s been spewing are probably causing global warming. Sure, banning people sounds like a horrible threat to the freedoms we have become accustomed to as Canadians, but remember: It’s worth it if it saves just one child!

  22. We are going through an extended period of nice sunny weather out on the west coast. When we had those storms and winds it was all “Global Warming” but now that we have this unusually nice weather no one is mentioning the GW… funny that. I make sure to start off all my phone calls with cursing the global warming and saying that the we should be hip deep in water and growing mold like every other year….

  23. Mary: It’s just that if you dig up examples from 30+ years ago, one might get the impression that you are running out of recent examples, which shouldn’t be the case given abundace of boonbdoggle and inactivity from the last administration.
    Phil: if Global warming is true, the effects wouldn’t all be positive. More erratic weather, including more prolonged droughts on the praries, would be a negative.

  24. Five hundred years ago our ancestors would have celebrated warmer weather because they could grow more food and live better. Five hundred years later the Enviromentalists want us to go back to living in caves.

  25. If someone has the time and enterprise to set up a competing Youtube “If I were Prime Minister” group for more “diversity” of proposals – I’ll be happy to make it a central feature here.

  26. let’s see, when I woke up this morning, the temp was -12. yesterday, -20, day b4, -22…consistently 3-4 degrees below our January average….if this is global warming, I want my money back….I was promised green, warm winters by the envirowhackjobs, so I drove my car, my boat, my lawnmower, all doing my share for global warming, and where is it???
    I WANT A REFUND!

  27. Any Historical Geology textbook explains very well the reasons for the major warming and cooling cycles that were experienced in the past. North America was subtropical many times followed by iceages which covered most of the continent. This happened again and again long before humans arrived and will occur long after the human race has disappeared.

  28. Jason: Reread my post, as an old timer I reminded voters of how long the liberals have been lying to cdns and breaking promises. I specifically asked people to add to the list, meaning more recent promises broken. Dion’s is making one now that if elected he would have honest government, and he has surrounded himself with those involved in all the corruption and scandal. So, that says he plans to break that promise also. The point is liberal PMs from trudeau, chretain, martin, have broken promises. There is a large population born after 1980 that are unaware of that fact. Considering there was a story out about the students entering university last fall have no knowledge of black and white tv, a test pattern, life without a remote control, hanging clothes on a line and other tidbits, why would you think they know anything about the liberals and their promise breaking record.

  29. “If someone has the time and enterprise to set up a competing Youtube “If I were Prime Minister” group for more “diversity” of proposals – I’ll be happy to make it a central feature here.”
    Joel at PTBC is really good at doing videos… I wonder if we could convince him.

  30. There are apparently two new books out and coming which reject human-caused global warming.
    Fred Singer, physicist and Dennis Avery, economist, have written one that came out in December, “Unstoppable Global Warming every 1500 years’ – a detailed examination of warming and cooling phases on earth.
    And Henrik Svensmark and Nigel Calder have one coming out in March on ‘The Chilling Stars, a new theory of climate change’.
    These refer to solar intensity as the chief factor in the planet’s continuous cycle of climate change from cooling to warming to cooling.
    The Kyoto fanatics have removed climate change from science, because they reject dissent. When you take a theory out of debate and critique then it becomes dogma. Theistic dogma. Not science. They have moved into Kyotism as a new form of utopian Save the World. Akin to communism; same emotional appeal, same intellectual emptiness.
    So- these two books are science; they are sceptical about humans as the sole or chief cause of the current global warming phase.

  31. Dr. Did Little Dion has diddled with Suzuki’s works in the past. The horror. The plagiarism. The stink. The copyright of it all. Dr. Did Little Dion is an intellectual thief, a fraud, a hoaxer.
    Dion exemplifies the Treason of the Intellectuals….-
    Part of Dion environmental plan changed after blog report
    SCOTT DEVEAU
    Globe and Mail Update
    Liberal leadership candidate Stephane Dion’s campaign hastily changed part of the candidate’s environmental platform as posted on his Web site
    today after a blog reported that parts of it were almost identical copies
    — without attribution —
    of a David Suzuki Foundation paper published the previous week. (complete article from G-M by subscription; firewalled by G-M for fee$)

  32. The whole media Kyotopalooza media hype job banging the IPCC drum about the release of the next report is really about Kyoto 2.
    Current Kyoto targets are, in comparison to those in Kyoto 2, quite small. Doesn’t matter that nobody is making their current targets, the big cookie is to prepare the ground for the next round of discussions.
    They hope to panic the herd into committing to massive UN mandated world government programs.
    I think they have goofed up – they are moving too soon. The reality of Kyoto 1 has come to impact on people yet. Of course everyone wants to “save the world” but the associated costs, when revealed to be high and not equally shared ( hello China and India) the tide will start to turn back to common sense.
    Taliban Jack & Enviro Lizzy Mae scream “make industry pay”. Go ahead, industry will just pass the costs along to consumers. Shut down the 30% of Ontario’s electrical supply that comes from coal and then ask the tens of thousands of workers that get laid off because their factories closed if they still are “green”. Uh huh.
    When the price of electricity goes up 60%-75%, when the gasoline price doubles, when everything made from petrochemicals doubles in price, citizens will be somewhat less likely to offer unconditional support.
    The Kyotoites, the Hockey Stickistas have made a serious error by stampeding the herd to early.
    It will be loud and crazy, but stay cool folks. Saner heads will prevail.

  33. Richard Gwyn-Tells us Why We Care in todays Red Star…We care because we are socialists and Global Warming is the ‘ultimate collective cause’. Hard to argue with that.
    snip-So all that remains for us to devote ourselves to is individualism – our personal needs and wants. Which is never enough. Humans are social animals. We live in society, not just in our own cave or condo.
    Combating global warming is the ultimate collective cause. It’s about doing good, not just to ourselves but to our grandchildren. It’s about doing good not to and for just our own country, but to the globe itself.
    Lastly, it is, in a way, the answer to terrorism. Terrorists just want to end the lives of as many people as possible. We want to try to preserve life.
    I may be wrong. But when was the last time so many Canadians cared so deeply about something so remote from their personal interests – unlike health care?-

  34. Hans, “The Sky is Falling, The Sky is Falling” and “The Sea is Rising, The Sea is Rising”.
    Chicken Little and Charlie Tuna, Chicken of the Sea, two of Dr. DidLittle’s talking critters.

  36. I believe I read somewhere recently that there was a genuine warming period during the Middle Ages that afforded the masses to thrive, read population boom, and contribute to a cultural great leap forward so-to-speak. Wars and sieges notwithstanding of course. So maybe these things do come in cycles.

  37. A real scientist would never say that the debate is over. To be a scientist is to be a skeptic. If your theories and the data to back them up are so sound then you should be encouraging others to try and find holes in your theory. This is how science works, or should work. The blog Climate Audit by Stephen McIntyre is a good read.
    Someone should remind Suzuki of something he should have learned back in University:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation

  38. Does admission to this schlocky cult horror bomb include a barf bag for those with any sense of reason?
    Seeing how this is another hysterical preachy Canadian bomb that can’t recover costs from private sector box office and DVD sales, I guess its up to the national film board to bail out the producer and CBC to endlessly run it as a “documentary”….followed by endless running on the Canadian sat and cable “specialty” channels who must tow the line to CRTC and it’s repressive Can-con broadcast laws ….the real horror of this horror flick is you can’t get away from it and you can’t stop paying for it no matter how much it makes you sick. 😉

  39. If it weren’t for the CBC, Suzuki would likely be just another psycho-babbling watermelon from the Left Coast and largely unknown. He might have had to block roads or commit other terrorist activities to gain enough prestige to attract the US corporate (useful idiots) foundation dollars that now fund much of his anti-industrial revolution.
    Whenever the question of continued public funding of the CBC is raised, think of Kate’s poster.

  40. Dr . Dave was a “bug scientist” and entymologist, actually a genetics prof. who worked with that most complex genetic specimen, the fruit fly.
    after that he was an announcer on radio and tv.
    he is a self proclaimed expect on most everything else.

  41. The wackos want to protect seals, whales, sharks, stinkweed, the enviroment, ssm, gaylifestlyes, swinging clubs, liberals, terrorists to name a few. Why are they so against protecting unborn children, family values, and Christianity.

  42. So we accept the idea that the earth is warming — the most important question is whose fault is it and can we do anything to change the situation. I want the answer to this question: Mars is also warming. Does that not indicate therefore that the SUN is mostly responsible for the ever warming earth? And what can we do to control actions of the SUN? Maybe I should ask Dion about this, I’m sure he’d have an answer!!

  43. John said:”If it weren’t for the CBC, Suzuki would likely be just another psycho-babbling watermelon from the Left Coast and largely unknown. He might have had to block roads or commit other terrorist activities to gain enough prestige to attract the US corporate (useful idiots) foundation dollars that now fund much of his anti-industrial revolution.”
    A point overlooked by many. Soozie is funded by special interests and when he speaks or propagandizes it is not as a private citizen but the head of a funded lobby goup…Call it a foundation if that makes him feel “sanitized” for taking money for his advocacy but it is lobbying by any definition….I think Suzie should be regarde as such and come under legal guidelines for professional lobbyists…to start His foundation should be paying for the weekly time slots on CBC he uses to advocate for his patron’s agendas.

  44. So our Environmental Czar was first a Bug Expert who found he was losing his main subjects due to changes in the environment?
    This explains what set him off scrambling in all directions. He has done plenty of research on larger subjects, sex lives of some Jungle animals etc. That would probably be about the time of his nude pose with a fig leaf covering his hardware.
    God forbid Suzuki should reincarnate as a Fruit Bat and eat up all the research of his humble beginning.

  45. When I was a little boy I actually thought David Suzuki was a great scientist and wanted to be just like him.
    What a difference three decades makes, however.
    Saw him on the tube the other day being interviewed and stuff. To my disappointment, he sounds as if he just blindly buys into the politically correct belief amongst scientists, leftists & the MSM that man is primarily responsible for all global warming and all climate change and can therefore, by spending tax dollars radically differently, for example, taking the money away from national defence and spending it on whatever as long as it’s “environmental” stuff. Yes, he suggested this.
    He thinks that we can influence the weather more likely than we can influence whether the Axis Powers will someday succeed in taking over the world.
    I’d rather protect the Free World with what money there is now than blindly spend it on an environmental utopian paradise fantasy and risk having the Axis take over the world once we no longer have the ability to fight them off.
    I’m afraid Suzuki has lost it.
    *Sigh*…

  46. Here is a recent exchange of emails I had with the Suzuki Foundation. I have erased the name of the correspondent, but he seems to be the front man. I have the distinct feeling I have been brushed off. Can’t figure out why:-).
    —–Original Message—– From: Len Pryor
    Why does the Suzuki foundation feel that human activity is the main
    factor in “climate change”?
    Len Pryor
    Mr. Pryor: Thanks very much for your inquiry.
    The preponderance of scientific findings and study — more than 900
    peer-reviewed scholarly articles and instances of research —
    establishes a definitive connection between human activity and climate
    change.
    It’s not so much that the David Suzuki Foundation “feels” human activity
    is the main factor, more that scientific fact has proven human activity
    is the main factor. You can find some of the scholarly articles about
    the subject through this link:
    http://scholar.google.com/scholar%3Fq%3Dhuman+activity+and+climate+chang
    e%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26oi%3Dscholart
    Also, Elizabeth Kolbert’s 2005 three-part series in The New Yorker
    magazine, “The Climate of Man,” explains the link between human activity
    and climate change. That series also served as the basis for a book by
    Ms. Kolbert, “Field Notes From A Catastrophe,” about climate change and
    human activity.
    I hope this is helpful
    Thanks for your prompt reply.
    When the Suzuki Foundation points out that over 900 articles of
    research establish a definitive connection between human activity and
    “climate change” (the new PC term for global warming) it skilfully
    infers as fact that human activity is the main cause. Almost nobody
    denies that the climate is changing. There is much evidence that human
    activity has a miniscule influence on the change. You can find some of
    the scholarly articles about the subject through this link.
    http://www.friendsofscience.org/
    I am sure that perusal of this site would be as informative for you as
    perusal of the site to which I was referred is to me.
    Sincerely, Len Pryor
    Mr. Pryor:
    The Friends of Science is a discredited group which is at least partly
    funded by a number of petroleum companies for political ends.
    Here is a story which explains the difference between Friends of Science
    and actual scientists: http://www.charlesmontgomery.ca/mrcool.html
    You may also find this story from yesterday’s New York Times
    informative:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/14/weekinreview/14basics.html?_r=1&ref=en
    vironment&oref=slogin
    This story from The Atlantic magazine from 2000 looks at some of the
    issues inherent in climate and policy:
    http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200007/global-warming
    Here is the chapter on the science of climate from Sir Nicholas Stern’s
    recent report on the economic impacts of the planet’s rising
    temperature:
    http://www.hm-treasury.gov.uk/media/9A2/80/Ch_1__Science.pdf
    Sincerely
    I certainly do want to see an environmental clean up, but lets work on
    clean air first. That does include carbon and sulphur scrubbers to
    reduce air pollution and will reduce to some extent the carbon dioxide
    emissions that have sent so many people into a tizzy. There are many
    polluted industrial sites that need to be cleaned and restored.
    I have consulted some of the sites you indicated, but haven’t had time
    yet to look at them all. I intend to do so.
    You mention that the Friends of Science is a discredited group. By
    whom, may I ask? I think your answer will not surprise me. I suppose
    the fact that they get some funding from industry and oil companies
    destroys their credibility. The same has been said of the equally
    disreputable Fraser Institute. Nasty people to say the least.
    Now that you’ve brought politics into it, wasn’t a fugitive from the UN
    one of the chief designers of the Kyoto agreement? Wonder where the
    loot from that scheme was intended to end up. Certainly not to anyone
    who dared to challenge that warped little game. The poor dupes (dopes?)
    who have fallen for that one are the real danger to our physical and
    economic environment.
    The money wasted on Kyoto will not be available to be applied to real
    clean up, but nestled in the pockets of the ilk of the “oil for food”
    scam. Maybe even some “green” groups.
    However, let’s not forget that CO/2 is not toxic, but essential for the
    survival of plant growth. If mankind reduces atmospheric CO/2, too much
    plant growth will start to die off and possibly by the end of the
    century many vegetative species will be extinct, and threaten our
    atmosphere and environment. Isn’t that a silly line of thought? Almost
    as bad as some other panic inducing pap that is being foist on an
    unsuspecting and gullible public.
    Sincerely Len Pryor
    P.S. Ever check out the possibility that solar activity might be a
    factor?
    Mr. Pryor:
    Those are all interesting point. I don’t have a response to any of them,
    mostly because I’m not familiar with the information you’re citing.
    I’m sure we’ll both learn more as more research is done and more facts
    become available.
    Sincerely
    That’s all folks, yibidee, yibidee, yibidee.

  47. Plenty of Libs and lefties have used the ‘foundation’ title for pet projects no accountability and no results…with all the loose Liberano money trails, it shouldn’t be too difficult to find out who is paying for this trip.
    Great poster Kate…are you taking the credit?

  49. Oops- meant to say that climate change, according to Suzuki, could be influenced significantly if we’d just spend billions on environmental stuff rather than on military readiness, etc. Lost my train of thought- am recovering from pneumonia which I had over the weekend… still uncomfortable, and that does distract the mind…

  50. The environment, global warming is the current “CAUSE CELEBRE”. It did not just suddenly appear; it has been a fact of life for us all since the start of the Industrial Revolution in the 19th century. We live and congregate closer to each other than during tribal, hunter/gatherer times. Mostly because that is where the jobs are, in the factories, power plants and mines that produce the every increasing quantities of product that we want to make our lives easier than our forefathers…
    I can accept that because of this and other human factors that we are modifying to some extent global weather, CO2 and H20 vapour levels; however I have a real disdain for WHY it is the energy producers fault and why they should be taxed or otherwise be made the fall guy. If we did not want this energy for our vehicles, home heat, plasma TV’s et al then business demands that it would not be produced.. No company will invest in a losing proposition (at least not a viable corporation with shareholders).
    If we really believe that we as a global community is responsible for the rapid change in the climate, then there is no solution that will be successful without India and China on board and as discussed in the NP article cited in ‘Lakeshore Observer’s’ comment.
    It bothers me too that the creation of greenhouse gases is the focus of the environmentalists… What about the lungs of the earth.. The massive deforestation that is occuring to create farmland, lumber for our homes, paper et al.
    What about the over fishing of the worlds oceans and the usage of the deep ocean trenches as a garbage dump.
    I can agree that the green’s will challenge that we have to start somewhere. Perhaps that is true.. and I look forward to seeing David Suzuki arrive in Calgary on an environmentally friendly Ass, speaking to the hoardes without the the electrically operated sound system and doing so standing on a tree stump in Princes Island Park using natures natural air conditioning…
    Certainly, I for one do not want to get on this hysterical bandwagon where Canada’s 1% of the world’s population is going to drive us all to 3rd world status to allow the other 99% to continue to maintain the status quo. Canada’s involvement in leadership on this file should be to bring everyone on board first, then take action… We do not want to experience first hand the problems in Europe created by an ill conceived Kyoto accord!

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