97 Replies to “They Went From “Flatten The Curve” To “Put Your Hands Behind Your Back” So Fast We Didn’t Even Notice”

      1. Prolly because they’re afraid of some crazy wagon burner with surplus lead. Anyone here taking notes?

        This guy will be among the first to the internment camp, once built.

        1. There is already one built and ready to go, south of Portage la Prairie, MB. Keane Bexte from Rebel news did a vid from there and interview one of the workers.

  2. Meh. What the heck, Defund the Police!!!

    In the same vein, may as well defund the government while we’re at it.

    1. I’m actually a fan of that. Defund the government and the cops with it. They could stand a nice hearty 50% budget cut every year for ten years.

      I used to say 10% but I think these days their budgets are really needing to be cut down like roadside weeds. Get out the mower, trim the bastards to size.

    2. They go from watching assholes riot, burn, loot and murder while doing nothing to prevent it to arresting regular people FOR doing nothing. Just following orders?

  4. “And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?… The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If…if…We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation…. We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

    ― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956

  5. Although I’m skeptical of the rush to produce these new vaccines, I wonder if the bought and paid for media’s sudden trashing of one vaccine and the push that we won’t see any for months, just part of governments pushing fascism over the long term.

  6. Because police are the good guys. Right law and order morons?

    Jackbooted thugs one and all.

    Every time a cop gets cancer Baby Jesus smiles.

    1. You are mixing up the front line cops with the politicians who order them around. Your comments are revolting.

      1. No, not really. They take the money, don’t they? And they arrested this guy today, didn’t they?

        Your tax dollars at work, Art.

        Cancer might be a bit much though, must say. Boils, maybe? Nothing like a nice case of boils.

      2. “Ve ver yust folovink orderz” is not a valid excuse. Can you cite a precedent?

        The man put his livelihood on the line. He had the guts to defy amoral orders. It was cops’ moral duty to do the same. Instead they have blindly followed. There is no excuse for their behavior. They made a choice. They deserve all the scorn sand contempt. Again.

      3. Sorry, Art, but I cannot agree.

        The police have a duty to protect and defend. They also have moral duties to not carry out nonsensical or cruel orders. No one has evidence that this joint was spreading disease. In the light of the riots, train stoppages and vandalism, this clearly looks like the police are nothing more than the Gestapo.

      4. “You are mixing up the front line cops with the politicians who order them around.”

        NO. My father’s generation settled that argument to the negative back in Nuremburg in ’48.
        Following orders is no excuse to commit Crimes Against Humanity.

  7. “The police are murdering their reputation.” – Ezra Levant

    Totally agree. Blue Lives Matter, but TPS and OPP aren’t cops anymore as far as I’m concerned.

    1. Awful that the police enforce this.
      Just following orders … didn’t work at Nuremberg and doesn’t work here.

      1. Exactly, they had a moral duty not to carry those orders. They have chosen otherwise. Because they are nothing but thugs. Low IQ thugs at that.

      2. The difference is that at Nuremberg they were brought to justice by outside forces,there is no such agency to protect us here. The communists have won.

  9. I like the idea of police in general but holy frick I hate the political pricks higher up in the police forces that cause officers to enforce politics on the citizenry. Although some officers you think love to do it. So while I can’t be 100% anti police I sure get anti-individual cop sometimes and situations like this make me want citizens to have FULL recourse against these actions.

    1. Lots of police like being the boss and get pumped when someone questions their authority.
      If they behave like pricks, like this lot in Toronto, they lose the support of the average person . Once that support is lost, their job becomes ten times more difficult.

      1. Their job becomes ten times more difficult, Mike, if you think their job is / was law enforcement, at that point it becomes impossible, because when the police loose public confidence all of their time is taken up protecting law enforcement personnel, along with their entitlements, pensions and interests. They don’t have enough time for that, let alone the suddenly ten times more difficult law enforcement, which most of them never saw as their primary function anyway.

    2. There are three types that become police.

      Most want to be of service.
      Some want to get even with those who bullied them.
      Some are bullies that find the police a convenient means to continue.
      It’s the latter two types that are the problem.
      The first type would protest and argue with the brass that they are not breaking the law just to satisfy some prick politicians.

  11. “But there comes a time, as it came in my life, when a man is denied the right to live a normal life, when he can only live the life of an outlaw because the government has so decreed to use the law to impose a state of outlawry upon him.”

    Extracts from the court record of the trial of Nelson Mandela held in the Old Synagogue court, Pretoria, from 15 October to 7 November 1962.

  12. The contrast between how the police react to government-approved public gatherings (e.g., BLM protests) and those that government disapproves of (e.g., Adam Skelly’s) is identical to how China treats public gatherings. If your group is in public to support President Xi, you are allowed to gather, block traffic and shout slogans. However, if your group intends to protest against the Chinese regime, the leaders are arrested and jailed without trial, while the group is attacked with batons, tear gas, water cannons, and even tanks.

    Welcome to Chinada 2020.

  13. I’m fine with Skelly getting arrested. Day 1, nice protest gesture. Day 2, fine, made your point. Day 3, well, now you’re just flouting the rule of law.

    There are literally thousands of independent restauranteurs and other small business owners in Canada who’ve followed the rules, switched to takeout/delivery/curbside pickup/online business models when called upon, took advantage of CEWS, CERS, etc. Hasn’t been easy, hasn’t been fair, hasn’t been smooth, to say the least. There have been plenty of casualties and a lot of heartbreak, but neither did any of us just decide that the law simply doesn’t apply to us.

    Skelly may self-righteously claim the mantle of victimhood and martyrdom, a courageous defender of “freedom” against a bullying, tyrannical state, but his version of “freedom” is all entitlement and zero responsibility. There are real issues that need to be addressed, and serious people with actual ideas for saving small businesses. Skelly’s a distraction.

      1. No, he should do what other small business owners in the same position as him have done — temporarily adapted their business models, applied for every last available cent of financial support for businesses, and vocally demanded better still from government…while also NOT feeling entitled to take the law into their own hands.

        I have friends who’ve lost their livelihoods, and I have friends who’ve pulled through so far. Nothing is fair, but nobody is throwing tantrums either.

          1. Because you don’t sit around a table at Home Depot, Walmart, grocery stores, etc., within a couple feet from others, talking and laughing without a mask, for an hour at a time.

            Skelly could’ve still offered takeout and delivery, he just had to close down his dine-in tables temporarily. A hardship, for sure, but something plenty of other restaurant owners have abided by without resorting to lawlessness.

      1. Is there no Mayor’s or Governor’s mansion to burn to the ground? We’re pretty close to this point.

    3. “3, well, now you’re just flouting the rule of law.”

      Amoral, unjust, revolting law. Law that the cops should not be enforcing had they had any shred of integrity left.

      1. That’s right. It’s a Free Man’s duty to break bad laws. Why? Because it’s the only way to get them repealed.
        Never forget: They work for US, they are supposed to SERVE US. We are not their subjects.

      1. “Ever speed in your car? Only once or twice?”

        As much as the next person.

        And what do you do, Red Dot, if you’re caught speeding and end up with a ticket? Do you go pay the fine, or do you tear it up in the cop’s face and declare that speed limits don’t apply to you?

          1. The likelihood of a second wave has been known since the early days of the pandemic, and Premier Ford has been signalling for weeks if not months that another lockdown was coming to Toronto.

      1. Actually, the opposite is true. If you want to open a restaurant at any time, the onus is on you as the owner to first demonstrate that you are abiding by whatever local health and safety regulations are currently in place, applicable to any such establishment, to ensure that you will not posing a health and safety risk to the public.

        So, in fact, Skelly needs to prove that the way he wants to run his restaurant will NOT spread COVID-19.

        1. And how is Mr. Skelly NOT providing a safe service?

          If the cops are there to shut him down, one assumes it is because his establishment is not safe.

          I will also assume that they have evidence for that.

    6. “Skelly may self-righteously claim the mantle of victimhood and martyrdom, a courageous defender of “freedom” against a bullying, tyrannical state, but his version of “freedom” is all entitlement and zero responsibility. There are real issues that need to be addressed, and serious people with actual ideas for saving small businesses. Skelly’s a distraction.”

      This is how people think when they have lost their nerve and have accepted being ruled over. They enjoy mentally kneeling before their masters and obediently sit down and shut up and await further orders on how to run their lives. Pretty sad.

    7. That argument was used on Mandela as well. “OK, OK, you made your point the first time, but millions of blacks have obeyed the law, and followed the orders of the white cops. You should come down off your sopabox, work within the system, and obey too!”.

  16. Re: “A flashback.”

    I’m quite sure, though, that the universal position here at SDA back during the summer was a full-throated demand for police to crack down on BLM protesters, to enforce the law, can’t abide lawlessness, what kind of society would we be then, et cetera, et cetera.

    If you’re now going to snarkily highlight everyone’s hypocrisies, perhaps you should start with your own.

    1. Doug: your logic is distorted and nonsensical. If the police did not crack down on BLM (and never will), nor on muslims gathering in Toronto in July to chant “Jews are Dogs”, nor on activists occupying parks and public plazas in Toronto, not aboriginals blocking roads and railways, why are they cracking down on Adam Skelly?

      Look forward to your answer.

      1. Doug: You have replied to two others, but not to me. Why is that? Having trouble arguing with hard facts?

        1. “…why are they cracking down on Adam Skelly?”

          I thought it was obvious — there is no law in Ontario that prohibits peaceful protests, of which the first three events you referenced are examples. Specific incidents of violence or other criminality occurring during those protests are, of course, a different (illegal) matter, but any such incidents do not invalidate the legality of the protests more generally.

          Blockades by Indigenous protesters are a more complex legal matter, as they get into contentious Constitutional matters (1982, s. 35) that are unique to Crown-Indigenous relations. Happy to debate those further if you wish, but they’re neither here nor there, unless Mr. Skelly is now self-identifying as Indigenous and claiming a treaty right to offer dine-in smoked meat platters to customers even in the midst of a global pandemic.

          Assuming he isn’t, then there are several relevant laws currently in force in Ontario that prohibit Mr. Skelly from attempting to re-open his restaurant after it was ordered shut earlier this week, e.g., https://www.ontario.ca/laws/statute/20r17.

          So, why are they “cracking down” on him, but not BLM protesters earlier this summer? Because unlike BLM protesters earlier this summer, he’s breaking the law, and insists to continue doing so even after several warnings.

    2. Doug, you have no idea what this business owner is going through and how that might compare to other businesses.
      People can stand up to their “rights” and break the law if the issue is racism, or gender equality, but not saving a livelihood?
      Don’t speak for others’ suffering. Are you taking a financial hit over covid or are you continuing to draw full pay and benefits?
      If the former, then give your head a shake and show compassions for others; if the latter, STFU no skin in the game boy.

      1. I’ve closed one business, had to let some really great employees go, dramatically restructured another, managed to keep those employees paid, and dipped into our retirement savings to keep our household afloat.

        Any other questions, Shamrock?

        1. Try answering my question instead of mind reading. Do you have access to the financials of the owner in question?
          Yes, here’s a repeat of my question. what do you know about other people’s businesses? You didn’t answer that one.
          Either way don’t speak for others you know nothing about. I believe I mentioned that too.
          Any other questions Doug?

          1. “Try answering my question instead of mind reading.”

            You literally asked me, “Are you taking a financial hit over covid or are you continuing to draw full pay and benefits?”, so I answered.

            “Do you have access to the financials of the owner in question?”

            No, I don’t, obviously. Do you? Of course not. Does that therefore preclude any further discussion on this topic, from you or I and anyone else other than Skelly and his accountant? Of course not. Kate doesn’t have access to his financials either — for all we know, he’s making a killing in takeaway brisket — yet here she is, blogging about him, inviting comments about this story. Maybe your delicate sensibilities melt quickly whenever a dissenting opinion shatters the exquisite purity of the SDA echo chamber, but that’s your problem, not mine.

        2. “I’ve closed one business,” ~Doug

          You probably mismanaged it. After all, you’re clearly an idjit.

    1. *
      “chant “the Jews are Dogs”

      doesn’t count. those are the ‘special people’
      protected by ‘justin’s special people law’.

      *

  19. Speaking of starting with your own…. did you condemn BLM protestors back then Doug? If not, then shouldn’t you also defend Adam Skelly now?

    I condemned BLM Protestors because they were assaulting people and destroying property. I would condemn Adam Skelly if he were doing the same thing, but HE IS NOT. See the difference?

    1. I supported the peaceful BLM protesters’ right to protest, but not to defy the police if and when they were ordered to disperse. Toss a brick through a store window? Enjoy a holding cell and a criminal record. Physical assault? Prison time for you, pal.

      Skelly’s actions on day 1 was a protest, which I support. Day 2 was civil disobedience, which I also give him kudos for, though the subsequent fines were also justified (and he’ll have no problem attracting benefactors to cover the costs). Today, however, is simply reckless disregard for the law. His choice, but also his responsibility. Actions have consequences – his is now a court date in March.

      2. “I supported the peaceful BLM protesters…”

        No such thing exists.

        “Enjoy a holding cell and a criminal record. Physical assault? Prison time for you, pal.”

        Good luck with that, there was no enforcement against Black Looter Mob and Antifa violence. Nor there was enforcement against Injun terrorists trying to derail trains earlier or terrorizing people at Caledonia now. Enforcement is strictly political. Enforcement only applies to civilized people trying to make a living.

        “Today, however, is simply reckless disregard for the law. ”

        Nope it is continued defiance against unjust orders issued by paranoid government. He is no different that Hong Kong protesters, and you are no different that Chicom fellators legitimizing the crackdown.

  21. I love how they’re trying to download responsibility for the spread of this virus onto the VICTIMS!

    Never forget it was our pathetic virtue-signalling politicians who permitted infected people from CHINA fly into this country in the first place! THEY’RE the ones who screwed this up! Not us!

    1. When cases went up in USA the media blamed Trump. When cases go up in Canada the media blames the people.

      When parasites break the law the police honour them. When hard working citizens try to save their livelihood, they get arrested.

      If the police are going to harrass honest citizens while failing to protect us from goons because they’re just following orders, they don’t have my support.

      I will happily change my position when they change their’s. Nothing hypocritical about that.

      PS: Thank goodness for Rebel News!

    2. “…who permitted infected people from CHINA fly into this country in the first place! THEY’RE the ones who screwed this up! Not us!”

      Actually, most of the imported cases that seeded the first wave in Canada came from the US and Europe.

      1. Ok then I would have expanded my proscription to include countries that weren’t blocking travel from china as well.

      2. So the Chinese Plague Monkeys flew to the US and Europe before coming to Canada, eh? Sounds about right.

  22. hey Copper! Come carry my bags. When they do this and won’t do the rail blockades or housing projects or riots or jihadi protests the lost all respect I ever, might have had, or ever will have.

  24. Lets face it: the cops and the politicians know that they protect each other. More protests equals more OT and or more cops. The cops need to back the politicians because they’re the budget makers.
    Its a virtuous circle as far as they’re concerned.
    Like I wrote in Tips this morning, I’m no defunder but its pretty difficult to care very much about pricks.

  25. And yet they give gifts of maple syrup to indians at blockades. When are they going to end the blockades at Caledonia?

  26. Skelly is showing a failure of imagination here,on being bailed out he should start selling “Via Rail Flambe”,where you throw the burning material against a moving freight train and dive onto the track..
    For these same “minions of the Liberals” had no problem with that.
    Year by year my opinion of Roscoe the Cop Hater changes..
    Consider this,twenty years ago when I extrapolated that the taxes on working people would equal or exceed 50% of their income..I was a nut.
    When we predict the return of vigilante justice,this is a bridge too far.
    The nanny state is made of children,too inexperienced and too stupid to understand human nature.
    Do the Lethbridge Cops think that 19 year old girl is ever going to trust police again?
    Most of them will dismiss her as unimportant,just as the OPP,RCMP and TCP all think what they do is A OK cause they are following orders..
    And when they are lumped in with the criminal element they serve and protect,they will be appealing to the public for sympathy and support..the very same public they betray right now.
    We have no police,here in Kleptocratic Can Ahh Duh.
    We have servant of the corrupt.
    Minions to a man,for no oaths are ever upheld by our “helpers”.
    Serve and protect…Who?
    Ain’t me ain’t you but we have to pony up them tax dollars for services we never see.

  27. We are at a huge disadvantage in this war,and I don’t see a positive outcome. The BLM antifa assholes are basically societal parasites, none of them own any property most of them probably don’t even have jobs, so the politicians are afraid of them as they literally have nothing to lose. They can only be penalized by incarceration which is very expensive, so it’s cheaper to let them walk.

    Those of us who did or do work for a living and own houses can’t win because the State can and will seize everything we have worked for all our lives. This has become so obvious the last few years as we watched groups of deadbeats loot burn, blockade and terrorize while the cops,under orders from the politicians, stand around with their fingers up their asses, and there is SFA we can do about it. Like all of us us here,I worked hard for over fifty years to get my humble mortgage free home and I am not about to lose it by attacking a well armed establishment army to make a point.
    We have lost. And it doesn’t matter what political stripe is in power, we have been disenfranchised by the system and it was no accident. Welcome to the new age of feudalism.

  28. Dr. Tam; China was a equal opportunity infector. They sent infected people to all nations so it could not be isolated.If infected came from Europe U.S.A or China it mattered not .The infection originated in China and you are being a useful idiot to say otherwise.

  29. Except for one obvious fact.
    You are going to lose it.
    All wealth will need to be confiscated to allow “wealth redistribution” to be carried out.
    You may believe you own your home,but just try defaulting on the rent demanded by your local authority.
    No pay those taxes,you are homeless..
    For Canadians have no right to own their property.
    Every avenue of theft by government is set up to rob you as smoothly and painlessly as can be..for the thieves.

  30. When it comes right down to it, when your livelihood is at stake, you can be made to participate in atrocities. Proof is in the pudding as they say. Take your everyday friendly neighborhood cop. Every one of them would not hesitate to arrest you, bash your head in if you resisted and knowingly transport you to a detention center that they knew would commit further abuse on you. Look at pre-ww2 Germany for proof of that.
    At this rate, might as well defund the assholes.

  31. Meanwhile, there are no “lockdowns” going on in Wuhan or Hangzai Province or anywhere else in CCP land… I guess the Chinamen know something we don’t. The Federal Liberals didn”t follow their own rules when it comes to “pandemic” protocol… why? Why did they invite the Chine Virus into the country ?
    The border to China has never been closed. Flights from China arrive everyday, they never stopped… why ?
    The border to America is closed but the border to China where the China Virus originated remains wide open… why ?
    Hey, when the Communist Chinese have more freedom then Canadians, something has gone terribly wrong.
    Hate to say it but those cops had a choice between doing whats right or choosing to be political tools of suppression, they chose wrong.
    Its about a paycheck for those assholes. If the cops, Media douchbags and politicians were deemed “non essential” then this dictatorship would end overnight. F#$K em all.

  32. The “flashback” images are new to me, and were nauseating and scary to see.

    Any LEO who kneels to a mob of scum needs to be handed their pink slip – end of story. Get off your damn knees and tell them to disperse, or turn in your badge. You’re supposed to protect civilization, not applaud its erosion, IDIOTS.

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