Deputy Commissioner Killam has instructed – in a signed internal memo – RCMP members to refrain from providing their own opinions on the firearms registry all while senior RCMP brass and organizations like the CACP claim that they represent the almost unanimous voice of Canadian police officers.
There is no point in enforcing a gun law if it doesn’t address actual gun violence. Drug-dealers and gangs do not register their illegal guns. The current gun registry merely penalises legitimate gun owners.
This is so elementary yet bears repeating.
Yep, we need to keep a 2 billion dollar slush fund that does nothing to protect society; but is nothing less than a large opportunity for corruption.
The gun registry should have been shot down long ago.
Cheers
Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”
I always thought the quote was:
” ‘Shut up,’ he explained.”
😉
Garth
The commissar whoops I mean commissioner has spoken! We will now have no discussion on the matter.
Of course the cops want to keep the registry; it lets them know which law abiding citizens have guns. Makes perfect sense in a land with no enshrined private property rights and a growing deference to state interference in private lives and liberties.
Cut and paste everywhere you go:
THERE IS TOO MUCH “GOVERNMENT” ON PLANET EARTH
Osumashi Kinyobe
[….There is no point in enforcing a gun law if it doesn’t address actual gun violence. Drug-dealers and gangs do not register their illegal guns. The current gun registry merely penalises legitimate gun owners.
This is so elementary yet bears repeating.]
It was never against crime or criminals. It was always against the law-abiding.
I recall reading a National Geographic, in a waiting room, a while back, an article about Yeman. It devoted a lot of space to the tragedy that the population was so well armed that the government was so “restricted” in it’s authority.
Fiefdom Defense 101.
Everyone knows what the frontline cops think. The politicians/policymakers aren’t officially being allowed to hear it. In committee.
I wonder if the committee should be a travelling committee?
Indeed, sasquatch.
I’m glad to see this pointless exercise bite people in the butt.
Commissioners don’t like the public to know just how f-ed their management is, so they just tell the rank and file to SHUT UP!!! in the faint hope the boys will actually follow illegal orders.
SOP for incompetent dorks in way over their heads. Makes me feel all safe and protected, know what I mean?
Q: How many police officers does it take to toe-the-line?
A: All of them???
Wonder if the Canadian Police Association has any thoughts about this blatant, authoritarian attempt to restrict the freedom of speech of its membership???
No, eh. Wonder why?
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/police-groups-join-forces-in-support-of-long-gun-registry/article1558553/
They claim it is a success because the cops “access the database” 11,000 times per whatever time frame.
How about they show us the numbers, you know, the actual decrease in gun crimes that didn’t happen?
The last honest RCMP officer was former Commissioner Murray, who in 1995, refused to endorse Alan Rock’s Fed. Justice Ministry gross distortion of crime stats to deceive Parliament into supporting the Liberals C-68 Firearms Act.
Why would only government officials be trusted to possess firearms and not the citizens who they work for and who pay their salaries, and from whose individual sovereignty the delegated power of elected representatives and public employees originate?
Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.-Lord Acton
I observed at the outset of the Librano sponsored Gun-reg fraud that the only police supporting it were the Association of Chiefs … at that time it was just the pres. of the group who was pushing it.
Now it’s become the official position and group members are cowed into following.
Rank and file … never …. supported this pos legislation.
Actually folks it is not the police officers who favour the gun registry. Please never confuse them with the police chiefs, who are politicians rather than policemen. That is exactly why the talking heads do not want the rank and file, those who actually do police work, to have a say.
Here is the relevant thread on the blueline.ca forums: http://forums.blueline.ca/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=17710
One lone loon in support of the gun registry, full support for ATTs to be included automagically with an FAC and some even in favour of concealed carry permits.
Police officers carry as part of their job, but if they want a gun themselves at home they have to go through the same crap everyone else does. Most do, and aren’t fond of the useless extra paperwork.
Politics at its absolute worst. Too bad we don’t vote in police chiefs!
Actually folks it is not the police officers who favour the gun registry. Please never confuse them with the police chiefs, who are politicians rather than policemen. That is exactly why the talking heads do not want the rank and file, those who actually do police work, to have a say.
Posted by: Alain at May 12, 2010 7:16 PM
Sorry Alain, wrong on that. The Canadian Police Association – which represents the rank and file has come out in support of the Registry.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/police-groups-join-forces-in-support-of-long-gun-registry/article1558553/
I’ll say again: now that they are onside with the chiefs, do you think it’s likely they’ll obnject to this attempt by the chiefs to muzzle dissenters? Not likely, eh?
Small Town Sask, 2009.
A friend of mine had a booze problem. He drank himself silly,, then he phoned the cops to tell them that he’s had enough, he’s gonna do himself in. They picked him up, drove him to hospital, he has now joined AA everything is cool.
RCMP Corporal searched firearm database, they got a warrant, searched his home. They seized all of his registered guns.
A week after he came home, my buddy, who was still totally upset about having had his guns seized, told me that his suicide plan was to start up an old restored Dodge pickup that he had in his attached garage. A 1966 Dodge with no catalytic converter will do a person in (inside garage) in about 30 mins. The cops hadn’t seen the keys in the ingition of the Dodge, yet they found the guns that were in the attic. Ironic? You bet.
Garth:
Me too. But who wrote it? Somehow, I think of Chandler, but I can’t place it. Runyon?
Let me play devil’s advocate here for a moment.
Is it not possible that asking the rank and file RCMP not to provide opinions on the gun registry is similar to asking members of (say) the Canadian Wheat Board to refrain from expressing opinions on the need for the Board? In other words, the job of a government employee is to carry out government policy, not to express opinions on it? Of course, if asked to give an opinion to an MP or a committee or something, that’s different.
I admit there are differences between the two examples so they’re not quite analogous.
Like I said, I’m just playing devil’s advocate, rather than swearing up and down that I’m correct on this.
Jamie McM
The CPA “says” it represents. Let’s poll the actual members on that position. Did the members vote on that “position”? Or was it just assumed they would fall in quietly?
Ever watch a formation march? There’s always someone that’s not in step at some point.
The CPA “says” it represents. Let’s poll the actual members on that position. Did the members vote on that “position”? Or was it just assumed they would fall in quietly?
Posted by: curious at May 13, 2010 9:53 AM
Of course no one voted – but just like most Canadians, they will “fall in quietly.”