In the Saudi daily bAl-Jazirah;
“The question that must be asked courageously is: Have the clerics of our times fulfilled their duty, as our forefathers did when they [fought] against the Khawarij? The most direct answer is: Sadly, no! Let’s assume that the government decides to allow women to drive without obligating them, for instance, to wear a veil; what would be the reaction of these clerics and students? How many protest delegations would come to Riyadh from all the provinces? How many fatwas would be signed? How many accusations would be leveled? How many noisy sermons would be delivered by many imams in the mosques?… Is a woman driving a car, or even not wearing a veil, a more serious prohibition in Allah’s eyes… than the acts of murder, slaughter, destruction, and violation of women’s honor [committed] by these ‘sick people?’ Why in the name of God [do we show] all this gentleness, forgiveness, and a tendency to ‘speak gently’ when it comes to terrorists, while [we show] extreme blatancy and harshness when it comes to women, for instance?…”
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“In 1945, a short time after Nazi Germany’s surrender, a conference was held in Potsdam, Germany, in which one of the important articles [adopted] was ‘denazification.’ This conference is credited with uprooting the culture of Nazism from Europe. [The conference] aroused the world’s conscience against Nazism with the end of World War II, firmed up the revulsion towards it, and made it into something similar to a crime, not just in judicial and political terms, but also in terms of culture, ideology, and especially, the media. Thus, it suffices in Europe nowadays to accuse a politician of having Nazi tendencies, or of inciting to Nazism, for him to turn into something of a bandit. The [Potsdam] Agreement was signed by Britain, the U.S.S.R., the U.S., and China � the important world superpowers at that time.
“Why shouldn’t we learn a lesson [of the Potsdam] experience, which had the greatest impact on the uprooting of Nazism from the world?… Imagine that the way of dealing with statements by Al-Salafiyya Al-Jihadiyya� was comparable to the West’s way of dealing with Nazism. Would a [TV] channel, like Al- Jazeera, for example, dare to spread this ideology and to relate to statements by its leaders and preachers in the spirit of ‘point/counterpoint’ [5] and ‘freedom of speech’?
Everybody knows that this channel in particular has had the greatest media impact on the shaping, spreading, and strengthening of this dangerous trend, and that it provides it with wide space to express its ‘acts of heroism’, its statements, and its videotaped operations, to the point where it [Al-Jazeera] has become the primary platform of [Al-Salafiyya Al-Jihadiyya], as is happening today in Iraq.
Kill the Infidels and Other Muslims: Islamist Terrorism.>>>>>>>
What is a Khariji and Who are the Khawarij?
Khariji or Kharijite: a follower of the Khawarij, or the attribute of following the Khawarij.
Khawarij: the group that expels people from the fold of Islam upon innovated principles and revolts against the rulers, causing much turmoil throughout the land
The original Khawarij were the descendents of a man named Dhul-Khuwaysarah, as prophesied by the Messenger of Allah (may Allah raise his rank and grant him peace). They are the sect that were responsible for the killing of many of his companions. They differ from the followers of the Salaf (the Prophet and his companions) in that they do not restrict themselves to the understanding which the Salaf had when applying texts related to takfir (excommunication). Hence, they use textual evidences, but fall short in understanding them. This is why the likes of Osama Bin Laden make unrestricted takfir.
Regarding the Khawarij, Shaykh Saalih al-Fawzaan, one of the great Salafi scholars of this time, said: “So having enthusiasm and an over-protective love for the religion is not sufficient. They must be founded upon knowledge and understanding of Allah’s religion.”
– abridged from the book: The ‘Wahhabi’ Myth.
http://www.thewahhabimyth.com/khawarij.htm
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“This is why the likes of Osama Bin Laden make unrestricted takfir.”
Takfir:
Al Takfir Wal Hijra
Al Takfir Wal Hijra may be the most terrifically terrifying terrorist operation in the world today. The fact that you’ve never heard of it is part of the problem.
Al Takfir Wal Hijra means “anathema and exile” or possibly “excommunication and emigration.” A theologically extreme extension of the Saudi Arabia’s Wahabbi doctrines, Takfir is dedicated to restoring the Caliphate, the Islamic political empire that once spanned the Near and Middle East.
Ayman Al-Zawahiri is a member of the Takfir sect. While Osama bin Laden is usually called the leader of al Qaeda, Zawahri runs the terrorist network in most meaningful respects, including ordering attacks and concocting theological justifications for killing.
The founder of the Egyptian Islamic Jihad organization and a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, Zawahiri is one of several international terror masterminds linked to Takfir Wal Hijra.
Takfir is as fundamentalist a sect as you can imagine. Its major tenet holds that all the world’s non-Muslim leaders should be overthrown by any means including (and especially) violence. Not only are infidels subject to sanctions up to and including death, but even other Muslims who don’t fit the Takfir ideal. >>>>
http://www.rapp.org/url/?JR50FLFG
The writer sounds like he must have some highly placed protectors, in order to get away with smarting off at the ulema like that.
I worked in Saudi Arabia for 2 yrs – and this is one screwed up country… Whether religious or not…
Their own people don’t even work at McDonalds… The Malls are filled with immigrant workers…
Whatever happened to the 16yr old kid pumping gas to hopefully buy his 1st truck – nope some Bangledeshi sending money home to his family…
Women driving is the least of their worries… We have women drivers in Canada – and we seem to do ok with them…
That’s a real dilemma as it is a religion and not a political movement. It is much easier to halt the spread of or actively attack a political movement. While religion is a touchy issue because faith is stronger then ideology. A good reason to separate their respective business but that’s another debate.Banning a religion even a sect is never an easy thing to justify.
The Allied occupational forces did a s Shit-poor job of “denazification” in Gemany and Europe….particularly when they put known hi ranking nazies back into high level bureaucratic positions to run post war Gemany/Europe.
The Russins were basiclly raping, pillaging dogs in most of their European occupation but at least their idological driven occupation executed many prominent Nazis and Nazi sycophants until they realized that many made good commissars in the new soviet east block states.
As far as this arab viewpoint goes they seem to have misnamed the type of despotism used in the fundamentalist arab states…like the Iranian and ex Iraqi regimes which operated less as a national socialist organ ( Nazi) than a theocratic form of Stalinism. One of the main critiques the fundamentalist Imams driving totalitarian theocractic states, have with the west is our “decadence” and “materialism”…these must be shunned and enforced by the state. Sounds more like fundamntal Stalinism than nazi dogma…nazis loved their wealth and hedonism.
I wonder what this guy’s life expectancy is?
About the same as a chinese student stopping a tank in tiananmen square. You can count the seconds…
Saddam’s trial on murder charges set to begin Wednesday
Posted by mdittmar
On 10/17/2005 6:29:53 PM PDT � 5 replies � 96+ views
monterey herald.com ^ | Oct. 17, 2005 | NANCY A. YOUSSEF Knight Ridder Newspapers
BAGHDAD, Iraq – (KRT) – Former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein will enter a bulletproof cage in the center of an Iraqi courtroom Wednesday for the start of his trial on murder charges. Unlike the trial in The Hague, Netherlands, of former Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic, Saddam will be tried by a court of his countrymen, not an international tribunal. Saddam – along with seven co-defendants – will be placed in a cage in the middle of the courtroom. To their right will be the defense counsel’s table; to the left, the prosecution. In front of the cage will be the…
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If convicted, he could be executed, even before he faces any other charges.>>>>
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1504280/posts
What’s the big deal? The muslims are at the same point in their history as the Christians were during the inquision. The church gave out instructions on how to do in a heathen with a sword from horse-back and by droping ones arm have the body slide off smoothly, ready to bring the next one to Jesus. As I see it the Moslims are just keeping up with the times.
Whats the difference. According to the tree-huggers we’re all going to be fried by a nonexisting sun anyway.
chad, a poltical movement is somewhat like a bowel movement, poof it’s there then it’s gone.