You know, it seems to me that if you set out to protest the views of a couple dozen left-wing white supremacists, you might choose a means of expression that doesn’t reinforce their position?
Update: ABC news caught in a misleading headline.
You know, it seems to me that if you set out to protest the views of a couple dozen left-wing white supremacists, you might choose a means of expression that doesn’t reinforce their position?
Update: ABC news caught in a misleading headline.
It’s sad, really.
What a species we are stuck with.
Half grasshoppers, half ants.
Since when are NAZI’s left wing ?
Um – National Socialist?
Umm.. yeah the name of Hitler’s party, you know killer of Jews,Homosexuals,and COMMUNISTS.
Was Hitler really a socialist or was he a Fascist ?
I’ll let you work it out for a while, maybe try a Google ?
Kate and Chad,
Left and right is a meaningless distinction. You’re both part of the same ideology. That goes for all other who consider themselves on either Chad’s “side” or Kate’s “side.”
“America’s Nazi Party,” if you visit their website, seems obsessed with the racist aspect of Germany’s Nazi Party. They seem to forget, much like contemporary conservatives and contemporary leftists, that racism was only one of the disgusting tenets of German Nazism, though, no doubt the most vile. It resulted in 20 million deaths, almost 7 million Jewish. One of the most horrific crimes in human history that should NEVER be forgotten, no dout. What conservatives and leftists forget are the other big government tenets of Nazism, tenets they themselves currently support, are what gave the German government enough power to carry out those unspeakable acts.
For example, strong nationalism, aggressive foreign policy for national interests, central planning of the economy toward right-wing ends, Christian-inspired public policy are whole-heartedly supported by today’s North American right. Many of these policies, rooted in especially German fascism, but also Italian fascism, find a home on this very blog almost daily.
There are also tenets of Nazism that the contemporary left can find roots in: support for economic corporatism, environmentalism, and government intervention in the name of protecting the people’s health (i.e. government sponsorship of tobacco, exercise, and healthy eating).
So when the left or the right accuses the other of being Nazis, even though this is meant as an insult, there’s actually quite a bit of truth in their accusations. Is Bush’s foreign policy fascist? Yes. Are the government of Canada’s tobacco controls fascist? You bet.
The only group that finds no policy or ideological ties whatsoever to the Nazi are libertarians. Conservatives, read up on history and snap out of our socialist roots.
Kate and Chad,
Left and right is a meaningless distinction. You’re both part of the same ideology. That goes for all other who consider themselves on either Chad’s “side” or Kate’s “side.”
“America’s Nazi Party,” if you visit their website, seems obsessed with the racist aspect of Germany’s Nazi Party. They seem to forget, much like contemporary conservatives and contemporary leftists, that racism was only one of the disgusting tenets of German Nazism, though, no doubt the most vile. It resulted in 20 million deaths, almost 7 million Jewish. One of the most horrific crimes in human history that should NEVER be forgotten, no dout. What conservatives and leftists forget are the other big government tenets of Nazism, tenets they themselves currently support, are what gave the German government enough power to carry out those unspeakable acts.
For example, strong nationalism, aggressive foreign policy for national interests, central planning of the economy toward right-wing ends, Christian-inspired public policy are whole-heartedly supported by today’s North American right. Many of these policies, rooted in especially German fascism, but also Italian fascism, find a home on this very blog almost daily.
There are also tenets of Nazism that the contemporary left can find roots in: support for economic corporatism, environmentalism, and government intervention in the name of protecting the people’s health (i.e. government sponsorship of tobacco, exercise, and healthy eating).
So when the left or the right accuses the other of being Nazis, even though this is meant as an insult, there’s actually quite a bit of truth in their accusations. Is Bush’s foreign policy fascist? Yes. Are the government of Canada’s tobacco controls fascist? You bet.
The only group that finds no policy or ideological ties whatsoever to the Nazi are libertarians. Conservatives, read up on history and snap out of our socialist roots.
A friend of mine who was a political science major once described the political spectrum as a circle. Draw a circle, start in the middle at the top. This represents the ‘centrist’ view. Move left or right from the top centre and apply your party labels as you see fit. Move far enough left or right and you end up pretty close to each other at the bottom of the circle (say fascism/socialism).
The ideologies start to get more similar again…
Food for thought.
“central planning of the economy toward right wing ends”
My nomination for the oxymoron of the week.
btw – the circle analogy is faulty.
The relationship of left to right is linear, with the left representing subjugation of individual rights, freedom, property and responsibilities to those of artificially constructed “group interests” while the right represents a refusal to accept that such groups even exist, much less supercede the rights and interests of the individual.
There is no point where these two concepts can come “full circle” and become the same thing, except in the foggy minds of safely tenured Political Science professors.
Hey Kate, I think your flat world thinking is outmoded. Go to http://www.politicalcompass.org, do the test. It breaks into Equality of condition to inequality of condition and authoratarism and individual rights.
You might also want to try:
http://www.self-gov.org/quiz.html
History history .. read it sometime. The Nazi pary was a socialist party .. plain and simple.
Ever hear of the Volkswagon. It means “peoples car” it was Hitlers effort to provide personal transportation for the common little people. An under powered miniature piece of shit much like the Hybrids all the lefties are buying now except it’s the elite left that are buying them for show while they save their SUVs for the main needs.
He also wanted to kill all the Jews who were not socialistic but rather entrepreneural and were generally doing much better financially than most Germans. I also remember his creedo “We suffering germans .. We need some breathing room” Those were the words he used to create some room by killing all jews and other non-germans.
I have said this before, “never underestimate the envy and hatred of a socialist”.
People, I’m with Kate on this one.
As I see it, today the left is bad and fascist whereas the right is good and stands up for the everyday ordinary person. It seems the poles have shifted. After all, we see the left allying itself with the Islamofascists and neo-Nazis, who are fascist, socialist, racist, sexist, anti-Semitic, and genocidal. The left supports regimes internationally that are all of the above while the right wants to fight them. The truth couldn’t be any clearer.
BTW, the German acronym for NAZI, NSDAP, includes the German word for socialism, which is what the ‘s’ stands for. Literally translated, it means “National Socialist German Workers’ Party”. Could it be any more lefitst-sounding? Could the Nazis of the Third Reich be any different idealogically from Stalin’s USSR, Saddam’s Iraq, Arafat’s “Palestine”, Robert Mugabe’s Zimbabwe, etc.?
Think about the whole thing. We “right”-oriented folk strongly, actively oppose all of those things and regimes that practice them. The left supports them all. Explain that, lefties. No namecalling, please, just reason, logic, cold, hard fact and consistency. I’m not holding my breath, though.
And one more point .. this thing in Toledo … Why would anyone be surprised? That’s they way most Negroes behave nowadays …. check out the North End of Toronto around the Finch corridor where they shoot each other every week.
And … maybe check out Africa sometime and see how they behave there and Haiti .. Jamaica … Florida … and while you are at it check out the secretary general of the United Nations … his behaviour is ….. well you know. Oil for food and so on.
In fact, can anyone name one country on this planet that is run by Negroes that you would want to live in or even visit for that matter.
The only way we can have a truly civilized black person running a decent country is if the brilliant Condi Rice runs for president of the USA and wins. That’s where I am pinning my hopes.
There are many good black people around the world, but they need leadership just like the rest of us.
Canadian Sentinel,
The Nazis were *very* popular, unlike the communists ever anywhere, and reflected the average German’s views. They were far more popular than the contemporary right is today (even in the U.S.). Most of their support, you are right, did come from the left of the time. In fact, most of the same German constituencies that voted Nazi before Hitler made a dictatorship voted social democrat until the last few elections.
Also, go back and read my last post, it explains that both today’s left and today’s right have equal roots in Nazism. The right today, especially the Republicans under George W. are very nationalist socialist. I would like your reply. You seem not to have read it.
Thanks Duke for your historical revisionism and racism. It is truly brillant stuff.It puts yours and Kate’s opinions into the perspective that is needed. Hitler hated socialists and communists, he thought they were lazy. They named the party National Socialist because it hid their true agenda and pulled the wool over the labour movements eyes. As far as Mugae, et al I would have to say that he came to power as a reformer of the apartheid system in then Rhodesia but was corrupted by dogma and power. I think your a little confused on facts in history and should read a few books.
Chad,
The political compass test is so biased towards contemporary, popular quasi-socialist theories of politics and economics that I can’t even answer many of the questions because they beg a reply that presupposes a ideological conception of the world that is inconsisten with my own views. It doesn’t even pretend to be impartial.
Then strongly diagree. Yes some of the questions are more comples then the 5 indications but follow this guidline, if you agree with the statement partially= agree, wholely= strongly agree and the same for the other end.
That is my system.
Actually Chad, the Nazis put in place legislation to protect worker’s rights that did not previously exist. They also planned higher pay for workers and instituted a welfare program for the working class that the North American labour movement could only dream of.
Further, non-Marxist socialist intellectuals in the West were, for the most part, very supportive of the Nazis.
I like how none of you here, left or right (minus Kate), acknowlege the libertarian argument in all this. You like to play the other wing is really the source of the Nazis when both of you find common heritage in it.
Ignorance is bliss I guess.
Chad, Did you ever read a history book that covers the past beyond 1939? Ask yourself WHY German people would support a movement like the Hitler spew of bile, WHY would Russian people support the same bile in 1917? Starvation and a mind-set of ‘no hope’ does stange things to people – they get mean and nasty when they have lost hope. Do a little more research before you challange other people and THINK about the historic cycle: cause, events, results. History is inter-active!!
Thanks Jema, I never knew that human despair could do such a thing to people. Hey, maybe that’s why we have EI, welfare,healthcare and all those other social programs. Wait a minute, was that because working people organized into trade unions and fought for those rights and privledges. Know its all coming to me, they did this so that all people could be free from living in despair, right, and , just maybe, that shoplifter at Safeway was actually just trying to feed his kids. Hmmm…. so maybe the whole libertarian conservative view is backwards. I see it all know, if these type of policies are adopted,again, it will lead to riots, like the regina riot, breadlines and soup kitchens, and if people get desparate enough some sort of revolution. Wow ! I better join a union, the ndp and get active so that the those conservatives don’t get in and destroy the delicate social balance, thanks your right.
Ok Union- in one -done ; NDP-check ; Active – working on it
And Seymour, I’m what they call a social libertarian, that means I belive in postive human rights not just negative.
I think people should have to pass a social studies or history test (Like for citizenship maybe) before they have the right to vote.
Chad would pass but no one else here so far. It’s a new right talking point of revising history to stick the left with Nazism. I’ve seen it a couple of times lately.
Sorry, the CPC is one mob or gas or food shortage away from being nationalist socialist.
Oh Chad, I was a bit dismayed to hear you calling me a racist, since I am a somewhat of a visible minority myself and have experienced bigotry many times in my life. I didn’t need any government money to get over it though. I am less visible now that the county has tons of really visible not so minorities.
I visited your site and saw that you are nothing but another progressive commie fool. I always consider the source when dealing with criticism.
I was born during the second world war and it was still fresh in everyone’s mind when I started school in the 40s and learned a bit about it. The apologists hadn’t rewritten much of the history of events yet. Why, I even spoke with men who were there and were still young enough to know what went down. The Canadian Legion has a way of pickling the memories of vets over time.
We were too polite to send women to war in those days. Of course in those days women behaved like women and rather enjoyed the respect they got from men. Do you know what a man is Chadly? I do appreciate bright, tough smart women like Kate though. I don’t see her as a shrinking violet. But I don’t see her as a man-hating Berken-boot wearing, fat, hairy man-hater such as is found in great numbers on your side of the fence.
Speaking of school, at age 33, don’t you think it’s time for you to get out of school and get a job. Maybe pay some taxes instead of benefitting from other peoples money forever. Maybe get some life experience, maybe get out of Saskatchewan and experience life where there are people who will hate you because you are white and male. You are white aren’t you? You may not be male though cause you sound a lot like a bitch.
No more personal attacks eh Chad baby! When you comment on my comments, stick to commenting on the comment. Think you can get behind that idea?
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Well Duke you sound like a well educated man. A little about I have lived in many parts of Canada, USA and UK. I am a fulltime employee,fulltime student and parents to very young boys. As far as the man comments I used throw guys like you out of the Plains Hotel,when bouncing in my youth and played semi-pro rugby thus my travels but I have learned those that talk tough are weak on the inside.
Thanks Steve, one should never give up the quest for knowledge and enlightenment and whenever possible should attempt to pass to others.
Steve,
Yet another personal attack on a great person.
Bush is the president and his successor will win too. It’s the death of liberalism and you just hate it. But then you know how to hate don’t you.
What’s with you lefties and the hate thing. I guess when one’s political leanings are in FREEFALL, that’s to be expected.
It also partly explains why the right is so polite and magnanamous toward adversaries. It’s hard to be a meanie when you are winning.
Presenting cartoons of GWB is childish. Are you childish Stevie?
If you care to read about the death of Liberalism … go here
And weep. It’s written my the Canadian MSM and it’s very interesting.
Duke, you’ve had your ass handed to you tonite.
Now, run along and clean up your room, and Mummy won’t charge you rent for your basement “suite” this month. There’s a good fellow.
No Chad, you didn’t throw guys like me out of a hotel, because unlike you, I didn’t hang around hotels. That’s where a lot of bad things happen and I know better.
And a rugby player too. A real tough guy … sounds like you should have worn a helmet. I mean … still have to go to school to learn stuff at your age?
You know, if you learned to read and write when you went to grammar school, you should be able to learn whatever it is you need to know without attending school where only socialists are allowed to teach. Objective learning is best and the only real education is self-education. Isaac Asimov said that. Know who he is?
Tone it down, or I’ll ban all of your asses out of here.
Only warning.
Steve,
FYI
I live in a large paid-for west coast home on Vancouver Island with a fabulous view of the ocean and mountains. I have a succesful business and lots of money. My lovely wife has a great career and makes lot of money too. I will probably retire in a couple of years and enjoy life even more than I do now.
We didn’t bother to have kids as they are so much trouble and noisy too. I prefer cats. They are much more republican.
I spent very little time in government schools which allowed me to think for myself and be succefull … rather than lining up for a government job.
I send money to my mother so she can have some fun too.
And I never worry about health care because I take care of my health and can afford to go the US if I need anything urgent. How about you dude?
Sorry Kate, will do.
Duke
Unfortunately, that method of education won’t help to provide my family with a better life.
Ahh.. the creator of science fiction. Yes, I read most of his works in elementary school, along with Orwell, Tolkein,Lewis, etc. But your never to old to read child’s books, it’s youthful and invigorating. You must be a very sad and lonely man to have to talk to people like you do, does it make you feel better about yourself ?
Chad,
You started it. I am actually a very nice person and I do a lot of nice things for others.
I comment here and you attack me.
Look in the mirror pal.
Ban my ass out of here.
But Duke is rascist.
Duke…about Condi-
Condoleeza Rice said the following this morning on NBC’s Meet the Press:
“The fact of the matter is that when we were attacked on September 11, we had a choice to make. We could decide that the proximate cause was al Qaeda and the people who flew those planes into buildings and, therefore, we would go after al Qaeda�or we could take a bolder approach.”
If that’s not an admission of war crimes, I don’t know what is.
In a perfect world, this will all end at The Hague with the Chimperor and his coterie on trial before the International Criminal Court.”
Thanks for answering my qestion Chad, you sounded like some other ‘guy’ spewing meaness and hate in another time but you did confirm what I suspected; you don’t know a thing about Germany prior to the Second World War or about Russia prior to The Russian Revolution during World War One. Duke gave you some good advice and you and Steve could not reply in a civil manner. Why do you wonder why Kate’s guests on this web page have a healthy lack of respect for the political left?
Jema , please enlighten me to how the well organized leftist threw Russia and Germany into chaos, especially Germany. I know the history of Lenin and his vanguard but don’t think that their approach was leftist, it was more about power. As far as Germany, all the information, I have gathered and read is it was the weakness of weimar rebuplic and WW1 reparations but your angle may be interesting.
Robert Seymour, I did read your post, and I’m afraid your logic won’t cut it. It sounds like opinion only, unsupported by real-world evidence. For example, you claimed:
“The right today, especially the Republicans under George W. are very nationalist socialist.”
Nationalist socialist? Bush’s America? Sorry, unless you can prove America is socialist, forget it. Nationalist, yes, which is ok, but socialist, get real. America is the most capitalist, democratic nation on earth. You may disagree, but you’re free to do so, unlike how it’d have been under a “national socialist” regime.
BTW, it’s illogical to simply declare any policy you don’t like as “fascist”. That’s a problem the left has had for some time. If they don’t like an idea of ours, they declare it “fascist”, while not accepting that their ideas are (they need to have SSM, etc. forced on the nation through sinister, undemocratic means, as we witnessed recently), for example.
For “fascist” to have any meaning, it cannot be so broadly, cavalierly thrown about to apply to whatever leftists wish.
CTS, I get up for a drink of water, and I see posts by CTS at 3:57. This is not addiction, really, just a healthy interest in an interesting thread.
I guess they are doing server work in Oslo Norway this late Sunday. My.Opera.com/T-G is not available.
I explained to Robert why Liberals should vote CPC in order to give the Liberals a time out to clean house and elect a new, *Clean*, leader.
Robert is threatening to vote NDP, so I pointed out that another stretch of lame government guaranteed to go down with a non-confidence vote would likely finish off his Liberal Party permanently.
Jack L has tough words for Martinites, but it’s just an act. Both parties are lame and they need each other to survive. In fact they are an unofficial coalition, but they are keeping it under the radar for now. 73s TG
Wow – imagine that, a thread that can’t be stopped by invocation of Godwin’s Law.
I have to agree with Chad (!) that left/right is too simplistic. And yes, the test at http://www.politicalcompass.org is very useful. Instead of a single dimension of political thought, it classifies according to two dimensions. And where Chad is correct in that one of those dimensions (the social scale) ranges from Authoritarian to Libertarian, he is incorrect about the other axis, the economic scale. It is not “equality of condition vs. inequality of condition”, it is controlled economy vs. free economy.
This two-dimensional thinking about political philosophy agrees with Robert Seymour’s initial point (“The only group that finds no policy or ideological ties whatsoever to the Nazi are libertarians.”) and also shows why both the left views Nazis as right wing and why the right views Nazis as left wing. On the left-right (economic) scale, the Nazi party was actually a centrist party. It is only when the second (social) scale is considered that it becomes evident that, while centrist, Fascist regimes are ultra-authoritarian.
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Now, getting back to the post that started this discussion. While the group whose march was the catalyst for the events in Toledo called themselves “America’s Nazi Party”, their demonstration had nothing to do with a authoritarian / economic-centrist ideology.
Instead, their premise is based upon racism: (a) the idea that people are members of homogenous collective groups, (b) that it is the characteristics of the group that determine the merits of the members of that group, (c) that the grouping may be done on the basis of skin color, and (d) that a stratification of society may be based upon the criterion in (c).
And the group that the neo-Nazis were demonstrating against, black gangs, are themselves also ascribing to this same sort of idea.
While some may argue that a collectivist view of economics and a collectivist view of individual merit are unrelated, even the most cursory examination of the left-right axis shows otherwise. The leftist economic philosophy requires this collectivization of people into groups, and the rightist economic philosophy requires individuals.
In short, what happened in Toledo was one leftist group rioting over the presence of another leftist group.
Imagine, the Liberals are too corrupt and incompetent so you vote NDP to save Canda.
Only in the glazed over eye of a blind lefty. There’s a fire, so throw some gasoline on to put it out!
If the Liberals are bad, an NDP government would be the final straw. Never forget what the NDP did to Ontario and BC.
Hmm, maybe it is time to unplug Canada from the ventilator.
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Both the nazi’s and the bolsheviks placed state and party over individual rights. Neither were democratic, other than the nazi’s taking initial power in a corrupt election. As a percentage, the size of government to population was out of control. Both were criminal organisations.
Seems they have more in common with Canadian Liberals and the so-called New ‘Democrats’ than Libertarians or Conservatives for that matter.
Kate said: “central planning of the economy toward right wing ends”
My nomination for the oxymoron of the week.
Yes it is unseemly and hypocritical until you realize that Canadians have never had a conservative/right government that didn’t run a centrally controlled economy. You may get them on the ropes and they will admit to being “Keynesian” but JM Keynes or Marx …there is but a split hair difference…both rely on central economic planning….what is it the Bank of Canada does? Federal marketing boards? Federal market regualtory boards?
In the US it was a self confessed “conservative” that intoduced central economic control via the fed reserve act and income tax and a Dem who initiated the socialist welfare state with that central banking control.
I think that ideological labels on active parties and politicians is futile as they compromise ideals to the point where their policies are identical. Left and right ideologies may have been polar opposite at one time but leftists using the Hegelian dialectic in public debate and the freedom of representative government, eventually got enough compromise from the right that today the political right is just a light mirror immage of the left differing only in approach to established leftist policy….look at Harper… all happy and comfortable with state run health care and welfare …he now argues as to how he can improve these systems and “save them”…as an economist he still believes in central banking setting economic policy and issuing fait money based in productivity and not gold standard…this is Keynesian economics which is fabian socialism at it’s economic best.
As far as the political spectrum is concerned, if you want accurate depiction of an ideology or a party or leader, draw a line… at one end is anarchy (no government) at the other is totalitarian statism (total governemnt)with constitutional republicanism (limited government controlled by the people) in the center…then place your ideals/party/regime on that line in bias to where they are situated relative to these two opposite political conditions.
The theory of socialism left nazism right or the circle theory they taught in high school always drove me nuts because it made no sense. Try looking at a different spectrum. On the left you have total government or communism and on the right anarchy or no government. All other systems fall somewhere between depending on how much government power is involved. Sorry, but a government with very limited powers would find it almost impossible to create gulags, concentration camps etc… Very little differentiates nazism and socialism because it is a form of socialism. A rose by any other name is still a rose. Back in my university days socialists would try to show opposites such as the nazis believed in private property but that is not true. Having a piece of paper that says you own a business, farm etc… is not ownership if the state stipulates what should be produced and controls prices etc… The racism of germany or the atrocities of other regimes are only a diversion. What is important is that a political system that vests massive power to the state makes these atrocities possible. Remember, Stalin justified his atrocities by saying they were for the common good. A vague concept that can be interpreted anyway the rulling elite feel fit.
Msr. Mackenzie- I wouldn’t be so quick as to dismiss equality of condition vs. equality of opportunity debate . Very important distinctions. As for Hegelian theories, it seems that if your statement were, true and Hegel correct, shouldn’t they be in a infinite cycle dialectic. Wouldn’t they keep moderating each other. Hey, wait is that what New Labour might be. or is the dialectic reversing its self.
Canadian Sentinel is right and so is Kate.
Fascism was re-baptized “guild socialism”. Guild socialism was a system in which the guild set prices and regulations completely and entirely within itself without reference to consumers outside of the guild.
In other words, if it were, say, a guild that produced pots, they might decide that every pot they produced would cost $10,000.
Obviously, this is completely unworkable. The market has to decide how much consumers are willing to pay for a pot. Guild socialism was destined to be a failure simply because you are not going to get a consumer to pay an outrageous price simply because the guild has determined that it can price things in whatever extravagant way it wishes.
Naturally, fascism has nothing whatsoever to do with the economic systems of countries like the US who lean very heavily in the direction of capitalism.
The real threat today comes from plutocracy being in partnership with socialists.
Plutocrats want the profits, and socialists want the taxes, and while they might appear to be enemies on the surface, actually they work with each other.
Let’s say that some plutocrats want to build something in a city so that they can receive enormous profits, even though the city doesn’t need it, and it would inconvenience the citizens. The plutocrats go to the socialist municipal authorities and present them with the deal.
The socialist administrators see that they can charge much higher taxes for this blessing should it be built in their city.
They both start to salivate — the plutocrats over the profits they’ll reap and the socialists over the taxes they will accrue. The average citizen doesn’t even know about this arrangement and will simply be stuck living with whatever these creeps have decided to do to them. The socialists, looking after their interests and wanting to please the plutocrats, may even find a way to float some kind of bond issue to make the people pay for this great blessing that has been bestowed.
Today we live in a new world, and regrettably, sometimes the enemies are never even identified.
Kaye: “‘central planning of the economy toward right wing ends.’ My nomination for the oxymoron of the week.”
Not so. It’s called rationalization of the means of production. Check out Mussolini’s corporate state. Or was he left-wing too? In which case, why did he keep Antonio Gramsci in jail?
In any case…here’s Hitler on the role of the individual. Sounds downright conservative to me.
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[All quotations from Mein Kampf
“Hence all inventions are the result of the creative faculty of the individual. And all such individuals, whether they have willed it or not,
are the benefactors of mankind, both great and small. Through their work millions and indeed billions of human beings have been provided with means and resources which facilitate their struggle for existence.
“Thus at the origin of the material civilization which flourishes to-day we always see individual persons. They supplement one another and
one of them bases his work on that of another. The same is true in regard to the practical application of those inventions and discoveries. For all the various methods of production are in their turn inventions also and consequently dependant on the creative faculty of the individual. Even in purely theoretical work, which can not be measured by a definite rule and
is preliminary to all subsequent technical discoveries, is exclusively the product of the individual brain. The broad masses do not invent, nor does the majority organize or think; but always and in every case the individual
man, the person.”
“Therefore not only does the organization possess no right to prevent men of brains from rising above the multitude but, on the contrary, it must
use its organizing powers to enable and promote that ascension as far as it possibly can. It must start out from the principle that the blessings of
mankind never came from the masses but from the creative brains of individuals, who are therefore the real benefactors of humanity. It is in
the interest of all to assure men of creative brains a decisive influence and facilitate their work. This common interest is surely not served by
allowing the multitude to rule, for they are not capable of thinking nor are they efficient and in no case whatsoever can they be said to be gifted.
Only those should rule who have the natural tempermant and gifts of leadership.”
“Though all human civilization has resulted exclusively from the creative activity of the individual, the principle that it is the mass
which counts–through the decision of the majority– makes its appearance only in the administration of the national community especially in the higher grades; and from their downwards the poison gradually filters into
all branches of national life, thus causing a veritable decomposition.
“Marxism represents the most striking phase
to eliminate the dominant significance of personality in every sphere ofhuman life and replace it by the numerical power of the masses. In politics the parlimentary form of government is the expression of this effort. We
can observe the fatal effects of it everywhere, from the smallest parish council upwards to the highest governing circles of the nation. In the
field of economics we see the trades union movement, which does not serve the real interests of the employees but the destructive aims of
[–].”
“If [we] should fail to understand the
fundamental importance of the essential principle, if it should merely varnish the external appearance of the present State and adopt the majority principle, it would really do nothing more than compete with Marxism on its
own ground.”
“The best constitution and the best form of government is that which
makes it quite natural for the best brains to reach a position of dominant importance and influence in the community.”
Chad sez: “As for Hegelian theories, it seems that if your statement were, true and Hegel correct, shouldn’t they be in a infinite cycle dialectic.”
Sorry Chad but if you had read Hegel you would know that he states the dialectic taken to its natural end will ALLWAYS produce “convergence”…the Hegalian dialect is not circular but finite and the end is convergence or assimilation of one or both the original opposites. When arguning in the Hegelian dilectic with ( socialism, fascism, despotism,zionism, communism and all the flawed political “isms”) to concede one point to them is to legitimize them and the greatest problems in the world in the last 2 centuries has been in people lending credibility to errant philosophies, ideologies and orthodoxies. So in any dialectic battle between right and wrong, wrong wins if conceded to. Thus it has been with statist-socialism in this nation,(BTW a perfect power substitute for royal statism) the political dialectic which produces incrimental compromise has reached a near conversion point where we have 3 parties who support intrenched socilaist-statist dogma…possibly to differing degrees but all have been dragged from the center towards the left (or totality side of the spectrum) by the nature of statist socialism and the population control needed to implement state enforced involuntary alturism and collective egalitarianism.
Again; the correct spectrum to plot an ideology/orthodoxy/political party or regime, is line… at one end is anarchy (no government) at the other is totalitarian statism (total governemnt)with constitutional republicanism (limited government controlled by the people) in the center. Canada’s major political parties are all on the totality side of the center with the socialists and liberal a tad closer to totality and the CPC a tad closer to the center but all arms length from each other. This is a sad state of affairs for those of us who wnat to get back to the center.