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When you think that this goes ALL the way back to the early days of Creation … almost 6000 YEARS AGO (!!) it is truly amazing!!!!
all the way? , well lets say 1% for rounding , 67,000,000 years out of 15 billion.
amazing preservation none the less, just as amazing is that they found out the dinasaur was called Dakota not Gronk.
Kate; Very Cool. Laughter is the best medicine. Thanks Merle Underwood.
cal, sorry to challenge you BUT the vast majority of readers here are well aware of the fact that the Holy Bible teaches us that Creation of the Universe happened about 6000 years ago! The Bible cannot POSSIBLY be wrong! No Way it can be wrong! Readers here KNOW, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the BIBLE is COMPLETELY WITHOUT ANY ERROR OR OMMISSION!!!
didnt know that you could speak for the vast majority of readers here. but go ahead.
the MSM says it speaks for the vast majority as well, hence this blog.
leftdog,
I think Joe Tory is the only one left that still believes in bible-style creationism…all the other theocon rightoids have got past that one with pseudo biblical metaphor massaging.
There’s a problem, leftdog, with your commitment to leftism.
You see, leftism rejects science; it rejects reason; it rejects data-based conclusions. Leftismm operates within ungrounded opinions.
Oh, and leftists have lots and lots of these ungrounded opinions.
Opinions about climate change, which they attribute to the sins of mankind.
Opinions about Islamic fascism, which they attribute to the USA and in particular, to George Bush.
Opinions about solving socioeconomic problems, which they attribute to capitalism.
On and on and on. Opinions Without Facts. Without evidence. Without logical connections. Opinions, opinions, opinions.
Leftists are eager and willing to opine about everything. After all, when you don’t need to substantiate your opinions, heck -…
So, your conclusion that “the vast majority of readers here” is, in the usual leftist mode, unsupported by factual evidence. It’s just your leftist opinion.
Opinions, opinions, opinions. That’s the Leftist Way.
Unless I’ve read things wrong I believe Liberal Ron and Leftdog are sniffing each others butt to determine Alpha Leftie.
leftdog, this Catholic with a degree in Geology thinks you should shove it, save that your head is already in the way.
Comments by known socialist imbeciles aside, this is soooo cool.
A couple years ago somebody found soft tissue inside a tyrannosaurus bone, but this goes ‘way beyond it. Skin patterns, ligaments, the lot.
Sweet!
If some of the genetic DNA code of Tutankhamen Rex is intact — could be interesting !!
Wonder how much of Dino’s code is similiar to ours ??
After all, I was just talking to a genetic pharmaceutical reasearcher — the genes of mice (used in the reasearch for cancer, ect medicine) are 100% identical to humans. The DNA code, of course, is much different. That is what causes the House Mouse to have a tail and we not.
Primates not only have identical genes to ours, the DNA code is also VERY similiar.
We, yes we, have genes for a tail — but they are not turned on.
What if it was possible, someday, to turn on the tail switch ? Would the hyppies be interested ?
Leftdog read a Jack Chick comic once, and he’s considered himself an expert on “Xtians” ever since. Such are the qualifications for knowledge and expertise among his peers. People have been made religion columnists at the Globe & Mail for less…
Dakota?
Should have named him Mohammed.
Did it have a preserved copy of the NY times clasped in its paw?
Cool. Love this stuff.
leftdog…I am trying to see things from your point of view,but I just cannot shove my head that far up my A##
“Opinions, opinions, opinions. That’s the Leftist Way.”
Liberalism mean never having to say ‘here are the facts’
What is even more amazing is that they also this dinosaur’s found perfectly preserved Liberal Party of Canada membership card, and his Toronto Star press credentials.
This is archeology and as a science it will point to the fact that the earth is not billions of years old.(This fossil could not have been around for millions of years, let alone billions.) I know leftdog was being his facetious self, but there are many of us commenters on this blog that believe science proves the Creation and disproves the theory of evolution.
And there are some commenters here that still believe the theory of evolution.Mutual respect is the norm until a lefty makes derogatory remarks because with lefties you have to think like them…that is the parameter of their ‘tolerance’.
Okay, am I missing something…..like the Rex. Other than the scale-imprinted sand, I must be missing an imagination.
Tres, tres cool. As the excavation leader said this “exceeds the jackpot”. And to think a student archeologist found this on his family’s back lot.
But, of course, that is just my humble “opinion”.
Heh.
I just knew I would not be able to venture into this thread without encountering some pinhead partisan airheads using it to take cheap potshots at each other.
I find it comforting that scientists in the field of paleontology don’t seem to be particularly agendized and tend to welcome finds that shake up previous held notions.
I hope this helps futher mankind’s quest to discover the truth of our very existence here.
Ahhh bluetech … I knew that I could rely on someone from the ‘Right’ to come along and set the rest of these ‘unbelievers’ straight! Too bad the Chrisitan Right doesn’t kick a bit more ‘evolutionary Right’ butts!
Thank God that Stockwell Day agrees with my first post above!!!
Joanne: Click on Kate’s pic. See story. In second paragraph see link to pictures of dino mummy.
Actually, Ted and bluetech, it’s not archaeology, but paleontology. The former is the study of the ancient works of man; the latter is the study of ancient life.
Gordinkneehill: You are obviously correct. My d’oh.
Read the article Joanne, “…mummified…” 🙂
I don’t get what this is all about? I have a ruler just like the one in the picture but I didn’t think they existed 6000 years ago. And another reader says 15 billion — I’m not that stupid !!
As for the age of the earth, the Ferrar Fenton’s Version of the Bible, was translated into English directly from the original Hebrew, Chaldee, and Greek languages, and this version of the Bible states the creation of the heaven and the earth to be in ‘periods.’ Atheists usually like to use the age of the earth as some sort of proof that the Bible is false, but in reality, neither atheists or Christians can state with any certainty the exact age of the heaven and earth. I would like to point out that non-believers cannot even come to a consensus on the age of the earth.
In the Bible II Peter 3:8 “…that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.” In this chapter God is wanting us to take heed to his words and to remember that he keeps his promises, and that II Peter 3:9 “The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.”
Here “each day for a year” –
” After the number of the days in which ye searched the land, even forty days, each day for a year, shall ye bear your iniquities, even forty years…” Numbers 14:34
We do not know for certainty the age of the heaven and earth in human terms of time, but knowing God is infinite, a ‘day’ or ‘period’ in human terms is of no consequence to the belief that the heaven and earth was created in six defined lengths of time and that God rested on the seventh.
Hey know-it-all leftdog, please quote the bible passage that states the earth is only 6000 years old…..
My stupid……lucky dino made it all the way down to North Dakota; otherwise, it would be a fossil fueling my vehicle…..
The find is fascinating. The accompanying article also illustrates the character of good science. I found particularly interesting the remarks of the movement modeller, Hutchinson. Despite the fact that his models model simple mechanics and can be tested against living creatures, he’s extremely cautious about extrapolating the models’ analytical ability to an untested and, ultimately untestable, entity i.e. a fossilized hadrosaur. He’s very open about the range of error — 50% and very skeptical of second order analyses based on these models i.e. the prey/predator relationship between the hadrosaur and T-Rex. Contrast this serious science with the ludicrously certain, fatuous predictions offered by climate modellers about the earth a hundred years into the future. Real science versus fools’ bombast.
Atheists usually like to use the age of the earth as some sort of proof that the Bible is false
… or at least some sort of proof that a literal reading of the Bible stating that the earth being created in on 144 hour period, 6000-10,000 years ago is false.
Erratum: “mummified” hadrosaur.
(Some of the comments on this thread are so tired.)
Cool story. But surely the story’s references to preserved skin are incorrect. After all this time it would be a fossil of once preserved skin.
“readers here are well aware of the fact that the Holy Bible teaches us that Creation of the Universe happened about 6000 years ago!”
Posted by: leftdog
It does no such thing, as only someone who has never read it would know. There is a difference between the text of the Bible and how it has been interpreted over the years.
What it does say is that the universe had a beginning, and we are the products of design, not blind, uncaring chance. Oh yes, and also that we are loved. But, of course, to the atheist love doesn’t really exist; it’s just chemical drips in the brain caused by a cruel quirk of mindless evolution, no more or less meaningful or valid than the urge to kill someone.
The even bigger story, of course, is the fact they discovered what killed hadrosaur Dakota …… George Bush.
universe about 15 billion years.
first generation stars 12 billion years
type IIsupernova that caused earth 5 to 7 billion,
first life archean around a billion.
dinosaurs 250million
mammals 100million
primates 1 million
humans 100000
agriculture 10000
democracy 2000
canada 100
SHPM 2 years. so its has taken us billions of years to reach this great aocomplishment.
And you wonder why Lord Bishop Wilberforce had thought that Mr Huxley was uppity.
(Written tongue-in-cheek.)
very true chip, the actual story in national geographics says the whole thing is mineralized with minimal chance of DNA or flesh recovery.
This is blasphemy. Any good Christian knows that dinasours were put here to test our faith. A true believer accepts Jesus in the face of this highly improbable crap. Massive lizards roaming the earth…come on, what are these “scientists” going to say next?
Posted by: BCer at December 3, 2007 3:53 PM
“The even bigger story, of course, is the fact they discovered what killed hadrosaur Dakota …… George Bush.”
Sorry, BCer, but you just can not blame everything on George Bush. The results of an autopsy on this reptilian subject produced bird shot consistent with the type used by Dick Cheney when hunting. Also, I’ll bet you did not notice the skin impressions look a lot like the alligator brief case carried by Karl Rove.
There may be some kind of conspiracy afoot here, but I’m pretty sure that Dan Rather can prove that George Bush was in the Texas AGN when that hadrosaur expired.
Heh. Leftoids making fun? Aren’t these the fools that believe in Utopia? Multiculturalism? Kyoto? Karl Marx? Jack Layton? Gore? And, and, and Dion?
Not an original thought in their collective heads either. Not even when it comes to insults…
“Rightoid,” sez Liberal Ron. Where do you think the empty cranium support system came up with that?
Posted by: cal2 at December 3, 2007 3:56 PM
“first life archean around a billion.”
Actually, cal2, much older than that; and Canada has some of the oldest.
(http://geol.queensu.ca/museum/exhibits/archean/archean.html)
The early Earth was quite different from today with constant bombardment by meteorites, intense volcanism, and a poisonous atmosphere. However, fossils known as stromatolites in rocks 3 to 3.5 billion years old show geologists that life evolved very early in the Earth’s history. During the time known as the Archean (~4 billion to 2.5 billion years ago) stromatolite fossils are very rare. Canada has three of the world’s known examples at Red Lake, Ontario, Steep Rock Lake, Ontario, and near Yellowknife, Northwest Territories.
Stromatolites are layered mounds, columns, and sheets found in the rock. They were originally formed by the growth of layer upon layer of cyanobacteria, a single-celled photosynthesizing microbe growing on a sea floor. Cyanobacteria are prokaryotic cells (the simplest form of modern carbon-based life) which lack a DNA-packaging nucleus. This simple organism would be the only life on Earth for the next 2 billion years.
Richard Ball: “There is a difference between the text of the Bible and how it has been interpreted over the years.”
See, Mr Ball, here’s what I don’t get. On the one hand, people say that the literal text of the Bible and its interpretations over the years are two different things, and that the latter is what represents the modern Christian faith. On the other hand, the literal text of the Koran is taken to be what the modern Islamic faith is all about, even though the vast majority of Muslims interpret it in far more moderate terms. So what gives?
looks like a tire track to me
“This is blasphemy…. A true believer accepts Jesus in the face of this highly improbable crap. Posted by: dave
A true believer accepts Jesus because of the convicting power of his words, including what he says about himself and the condition of the human heart, and because of their conviction that he rose from the dead — as was attested by his disciples who backed up this assertion with their lives. Jesus testified that he would send his holy Spirit to believers. It is the testimony of present-day believers that He has done exactly that.
So a believer’s faith is not based on blind trust. It is reasonable, informed, and authenticated.
The Jesus you seem determined to mock God has raised up and made both Saviour and Lord.
actually, Yoop, we have absolutely 0 data on what the earth was actually like 3.5 billion years ago. It’s all theory and speculation, based on geologists interpretations and best guesses derived from the scant evidence still in existence. Also, we don’t know that life evolved very early in Earth’s history, or was introduced to Earth from external sources (meteorite, aliens, God, etc).
you got me yoop, the strat section on the wall only went to the precambrian, I was too lazy to look up the parts of the precambrian so used the billion years cutoff. the archean is an older era of the precambrian.
my interest stops at the granite wash. lower devonian.
anyway, I cant think of anyone that takes 4004 BC oct 23 at 9 oclock in the morning as literal. seems to me that was calculated sometime in the 1700s.
Evolution is a fact proven by the geological, paleontological, and modern biological study. It is not a theory. The theory which bluetech speaks is Darwin’s theory of evolution. His theory of natural selection was used to describe the paleontological and geologic finds.
Get your definitions right.