It’s one thing to admit that BC’s approach to hard drugs has failed, but it’s another to offer up taxpayer funded treatment programs for every addict for as long as it takes as the alternative. I’m pretty sure that Elenore Sturko’s not planning to fund any of that on her own.
“If someone voluntarily wants to get help, I am your biggest champion,” she counters. “I want you to walk into any door and to be able to say, ‘I want detox today, and I need to go to treatment, and I’d like lifelong support and counselling if I need it, and a nice place to live that’s drug-free and safe for me.’
MAiD can fix a drug problem and a tax problem at the same time!
If MAID is a good enough Veterans Affairs solution for a veteran, surely it’s an ideal solution for a junkie.
I’m happy to pay taxes for free Fentanyl for the druggies. Lots and lots of it. The strongest Fentanyl we can buy.
“A nice place to live that’s drug-free and safe for me.”
Nothing stopping New Democrats from taking these people into their own homes.
Probably a few thousand people thinking I just have to take some drugs and get caught and I get a nice place to live thats safe?
Sign me up.
I WANT “A nice place to live that’s drug-free and safe for me.”
And I want a pony!
Someone give me the stats on recidivist de-toxers … so this is another revolving door of government spending?
Ai says: Nick Reiner reportedly went to rehab 18 times by the time he turned 22 years old.
Around 70% for those who don’t go into treatment programs; around 50% for those who enter into a treatment program. But those are rough numbers and don’t take into consideration specifics.
The type of drugs they are addicted to can influence recidivism, as can the type of treatment program they enter (there is a wide range: some are more successful than others), as well as whether or not they voluntarily entered a program or were court ordered to do so (I will leave you to guess which group is more successful here).
Do I believe people should have a shot at redemption? Certainly. Do I believe that handing out goodies is a successful path towards that redemption? No, it works at counter purpose if you ask me — and it smacks of another taxpayer shakedown/fraud scheme that will do nothing to really help people…rather like the ‘gender affirming care’ thing: setting people up to crash and burn, and all the inherent destruction that come with it, and then generously applying sweet nothing in order to virtue signal (and line certain pockets on the sly) at the public’s expense. The public will of course cast their ire NOT on the people who set up the whole odious thing, so quite a safe shakedown.
At some point the elephant in the room has to be addressed: has society enabled the conditions whereby people wind up becoming addicts? (I would say, yes, it has; for quite some time now).
Enabling people to become, and stay, addicted is a crime against humanity, utterly immoral. And I choose the word “enable” very purposefully.
100% … thank you for expanding on my shorthand version of the problem.
The BC government need find out how their Chinese paymasters managed to solve the opium problem after the revolution, and then go do that.
Short version:
If you wanted to get clean, you got help doing that.
If you didn’t, the communists considered you a “class enemy,” as if you had collaborated with the Japanese or with Chiang Kai-Shek, and liquidated accordingly.
It worked. The drug problem was quickly eradicated in China and did not return umtil after Mao’s death.
So it’s known how to solve a country’s drug problem if you’re serious. Alas, there’s more money to be made by Beijing pushing drugs and by our overseers pretending to fight drugs than there is to get Canadians off drugs.
The best way to deal with this is to have a “three strikes” concept for administering Narcan….after the third use, it can be assumed that the person has chosen MaID.
These drug use enablers are just like the poverty industry.
They don’t want to solve the problem, they want to commonise it.
They want to monetize it. After all, not all Liberal Arts Majors can work at the fry station at McDonalds or sling overpriced coffee at Starbucks.
Dear Sir or Madam:
I resolutely refuse to pay for this. It will work itself out.
Sincerely,
Charles Darwin
I dont have a problem with taxpayer funded detox. And I don’t have a problem with an effective detox program as a mandatory component of a sentence for a criminal conviction.
By the same logic used by the the feds, if you can force the citizenry into quarantine, force the public to take the shot, you can damn well force detox. Why do druggies get the kid glove treatment? Who do they think they are? Native?
Good point
Bingo!
…you can damn well force detox.
Years ago I dated a gal who was an addict. Pharmaceuticals, grass & alcohol. She’s been straight since ’83. In various conversations I had w/ her, as well as a psychologist prof in uni (trying to understand her addiction) at the time, the underlying message was, until you had actually bottomed out & genuinely wanted to get better, detox was unlikely to be effective.
I don’t know if that has changed or not. I’ve been meaning to contact her & have a sit down. If it hasn’t changed, then all we are doing is pissing away taxpayers money under the guise of actually doing something.
With the information I currently have I’m dead against Alberta’s new legislation to recommend someone close to you get picked up & thrown into detox. I find that akin to forced vaccinations. I argued this w/ my MLA & he could not see the parallel.
This is correct. The most successful recovering addicts are the ones who finally choose to recover.
I’ve been around a lot of addicts; there are a lot of other things going on besides the addiction in most cases, but the one commonality is that they have to finally get to a point where they decide to quit (and that also means they’re willing to address the other issues going on).
It isn’t easy for all concerned.
Allow me to add that many addicts have mental illness that prevents them from ever being cured by detox and rehab. They need constant psychotherapy and minding. Yeah! Reopen the Institutions.
The mental disability/mental illness to homeless to addict pipeline is real. A big problem is the mentally handicapped: after they turn 18, unless someone has legal guardianship of them (and that can cost 2K and up in legal retainers, many families can’t afford to do it), they’re adults and can make their own choices according to the law. And that’s before we get into ‘responsible guardianship’. And don’t get me started on some of the homes for them; they don’t often attract the best sort of people; we’ll leave it at that — I would want to leave to.
I think everyone can see the problem here. I will just reiterate: these are people who are so easily preyed upon, and they will not be able to get themselves out of a bad situation if they find themselves in one.
You should be hating the predators and the enablers of the predators, and not the prey.
“I’m dead against Alberta’s new legislation to recommend someone close to you get picked up & thrown into detox. I find that akin to forced vaccinations.”
Alberta has a history of this kind of legislation.
During Social Credit days, up until the Progressive Conservatives repealed it in 1972, there was legislation that allowed “someone close to you”(family) to have you incarcerated in a mental facility and sterilized too.
“Who do they think they are?…”
Liberal and NDP voters.
It’s not a coincidence that few to no one gets “cured” by these programs. In fact, the number of “clients” keeps growing. It’s all part of the business plan.
Addicts get to choose “a nice place to live that’s drug-free and safe for me.”
On the other hand “the addict is released and citizens are told to barricade their homes.”
Something is backwards. I want “a nice place to live that’s drug-free and safe for me.”
What they want is that last bit about a home. The other stuff is the means, the home is the end.
I blame Tears for Fears for the nihilism that defines free drugs, free needles, free streets for these addicts.
https://youtu.be/CohEpttOZv8?si=d0W7e_XRMexgHoGI
And I find it kind of funny
I find it kind of sad
The dreams in which I’m dying are the best I’ve ever had
I find it hard to tell you
‘Cause I find it hard to take
When people run in circles it’s a very very
Mad world
I blame Nile Rogers for nilism…
Yeah … he’s coming out … drawing his inspiration from the Trans clubs … certified platinum nihilist.
https://youtu.be/ZY3w3XJLWzo?si=9yZD43MmvYFksj9P
It is a real problem & it’s everywhere you look. When in the work force I just set my rules on whom I was working with. [no alcohol, no drugs, no being late, give 100% to the job & treat everybody & yourself with respect]. If these 5 rules were not met you were kicking rocks down the road, simply because you were fired. Got into a lot of arguments with HRC.
I could not know the approach of a cure simply because I do not believe that any help you could give they do not want.
A contractor who did some work for me revealed that his brother was an addict and living on the street and of course all the shit that comes with it.
Brother offered and he accepted full time work…he bought a truck, rented a house, girlfriend, the whole enchilada, life was good. Then one day – Boom! He was gone. Didn’t show up to work…truck taken away…girlfriend left and he was back on the streets.
Brother went to look for him and found him – He says: “Listen, I know you care and bless ya for trying to help me…but I’m just far happier here.”
So there it is. They say people with addictions have to hit rock bottom first…If there’s a lower level than where they’re at now I’m all ears.
My point…Don’t have one. Other than you have to want to quit and until such time those trying to help are just pissing in the wind. You might get a half a year or so but they’ll be back.
Now it’s an industry. So now it’ll never get solved.
You will own nothing and be happy!
That is the perverse life of an addict. I don’t think they are happy, but they are free to be totally selfish with no responsibility to anyone.
just an aside comment/observation/question: any chance freeloaders are going to catch on and slip into the lineup for a free ride lasting as long as the taxpayers/voters allow?
It’s likely set up with that very thing in mind.
Does anyone think these places will be drug free? Can’t even keep drugs out of prisons.
So, addicts get treatment, and then get to live on the dole in a nice prison for the rest of their lives.
WTF ..?
“and a nice place to live that’s drug-free and safe for me.’”
Here’s a ticket to Singapore. They will handle your drug problem