19 Replies to “The Deniers”

  1. She certainly knows how to skirt the the politicians and academia or would have been fired or censured decades ago.
    Anything not through the scholastic system was ignored or criticism as pseudoscience.
    Our politicians absolute belief in the IPCC report made anyone criticism as uneducated to the politicians agenda going forward. They’re ‘experts’ paid by the government grants system.
    Tried showing a total different path of study only to be censured consistently.

  2. “shopping for the teenager or member of parliament”. Those are not end-members. Judith Curry is one of the few climate scientists who has pushed back successfully against the Borg.

    1. I received correspondence once from Jack Layton and his beliefs in the IPCC report was absolute and any criticism was from the uneducated to government paid experts…brick wall…or thick as a brick…
      Hmmm, I wonder who he was married to?
      Could it be another politician running for Toronto Mayor?

  3. I really do want to THANK HER though for these criticisms actually pushed me to do a Velocities Mapping of our orb.
    It’s shows the speed of wind particles on our planet without our atmosphere present.
    It was published on JoNova and a couple times in other blogs and died there.

    I had thought that I hit a home run with showing facts that can be recreated to University’s and Government agencies…two weeks of absolute silence and not a single reply from 70 plus emails that I sent worldwide with the mapping enclosed.

    I did continue into many more other factors that of study to compliment my knowledge base further into the mechanical structure of our planets orbit with the Sun different light and heat times.

  4. I wish her success. I have zero f’s to give on climate doom, Covid doom, the alphabet people, trans rights, Zelenskyyyyyy and Ukraine or June teeth (autocorrect insists).

  5. I like Curry’s approach. Her work is well within scientific standards — she doesn’t deny that CO2 is a greenhouse gas, for example — but shows solid skepticism towards the ideologically driven agenda that has captured much of climatology. It’s exactly what climate science needs to steer itself back to rationality.

      1. It is not. It is neither a pollutant or a climate driver. The terminally stupid like to think so.

    1. “I like Curry’s approach. Her work is well within scientific standards — she doesn’t deny that CO2 is a greenhouse gas, for example ”

      Yes, a *minor* greenhouse gas.

      “but shows solid skepticism towards the ideologically driven agenda that has captured much of climatology. ”

      That’s because, as she has stated, she is retired and cannot have her career threatened.

      “It’s exactly what climate science needs to steer itself back to rationality.”

      They would first need to acknowledge the many distortions, fabrications and outright *lies* they have told up to this point…or they will never be trusted again. Period. I’m not hopeful.

  6. Ask anyone who lives near an ocean if the seas are rising noticeably .. or falling. Climate “change” goes on in all times and the notion that significant global change is being effected by human activity is not supported by the simple observation of sea levels. As with Covid-19, arguments for and against a need for extreme interventions separate people in two camps — both ignoring the obvious: we couldn’t see any pandemic affecting people we knew; and sea levels aren’t concerning for those familiar with the sea.

    1. As if the Obamas would have bought a multi million dollar mansion at Martha’s Vineyard if they believed it for a second.

  7. The Canadian prices on this book are outrageous — $52 for the paperback. I wonder what is behind the pricing.

  8. I find it odd that Western Nations are saying the earth is dying and we must restrict our use of abundant fossil fuel energy and others while we watch Asian countries ramp up theirs with coal. They don’t seem to be worried in any effort at curtailing. Something tells me we are owned and destined for a suicide march by our minions in power. Going outside now to burn some wood at the fire pit to make my small contribution. sarc>

    bverwey

  9. “Denial” is a leftist term for disagreement. On the evening news I learned that people investigating whether there actually are any bodies in alleged mass grave sites on former residential school property are “body deniers” rather than just skeptics who aren’t prepared to take a leftist’s word for something without evidence.

    Maybe bodies have been discovered somewhere, but certainly not in all locations being discussed. The disturbing part of all this is that very few people seem to see any problem with calling disagreement “denial” which tends to indicate that most people just incorporate the opinions of self-appointed experts as facts, without subjecting them to any standard of verification at all.

    This is how we got into the current mess of woke socialist (un-) government. Other things a reasonable person could currently be denying might include:

    (a) fraud in U.S. elections
    (b) dangers involved in gender “transitions” for young people
    (c) all aspects of climate change as presented by elites (in particular, more severe weather events, the least defensible of their claims)
    (d) purported safety and efficacy of COVID-19 injections
    (e) justification for so-called gay “pride”
    (f) official versions of the war in Ukraine (although here it’s a comparison of denial on either side depending on who wants their narrative enforced)

    and no doubt the list is a lot longer.

    Narrative enforcement — it’s a bit longer term than Nazism or Marxism, but more or less the same thing.

    My message to our self-appointed betters is simply this: we will investigate what we want to investigate, and ignore your term “denial” perhaps we might say, deny the denial. Deal with it, it’s called freedom of speech and freedom of inquiry.

    1. Unfortunately, the words themselves are potent — which is why some words are deliberately used in propaganda. Calling someone a ” denialist” attempts to subconsciously equate the issue with holocaust denial. Calling people ” haters” or ” conspiracy theorists” also works to dismiss their concerns. It’s manipulative, but has an impact on public consciousness.

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