Jeffrey Epstein Didn’t Kill Himself

The torpedoes are coming for the human Venn diagram of Democrat funding; This thread is a compendium of various messages that Hoffman and Epstein exchanged. Consider it a trailer of what’s next.

50 Replies to “Jeffrey Epstein Didn’t Kill Himself”

    1. She must have … forgotten … the day, time, or year she visited the island. Or the boutique dress shop

  1. helluvalot of dirty laundry got buried with epstein.
    things do get exumed on occasion.
    an aside note ALL THIS tells me there was an intervention from Providence, nudging, nudging that bullet’s trajectory with orders from Him to ‘let it tap his ear so they all know just how close that nation came to its own version of hell on earth, delivered up by the Demoncraps who ever since have unabashedly shown their true colours’.

  2. uj: you show the qualities of one l wd love to go see a play some evg, then a dinner date to trade stories.
    l did a season @ Shaw Festival N-O-T-L Ontario tech support, marvelled how the actors memorized their lines, NO bloopers allowed, next night do it again. they wdnt tell me the trick, l think it was superstition

    1. Well, I hope they are at least qualities that are of some usefulness. I have no idea what an ‘evg game’ is. And my husband would have to come along on said dinner date — but neither one of us likes socializing, so…
      If you think I’m a meany, well…one of the few who caused a SERE instructor to crash and burn — excellent observational skills coupled with the ability/willingness to exploit(ruthlessly) opportunities…and thing of marvel and beauty! There is a reason we were meant for each other — a post Valentine’s shout out to my one and only!

      There are multiple methods of memorization — a person just has to find the one that works best for them and above all else, practice.
      But some people have a talent for rapid memorization and don’t need to rely upon techniques as much as others — Bill Clinton was one of these people; in my opinion it was really one of the things that made him such a hazard.

      1. Ah, my apologies: a play some evening, not an ‘evg’ game…unfortunately the theater is rather hit or miss any more and quite a lot of modern drama just bores me. A local college used to do quite good productions of Shakespeare for their annual week long Bardfest, but then the old director retired and now…well, we can’t have nice things.
        Still, the rest stands.

        Hey, anyone seen Wuthering Heights?

        1. You’re not from around here; the Shaw Festival and the Stratford Festival are about a two hour drive apart, and at one time were bastions of classic live theatre. They’ve both since gone to absolute sh*t, both in terms of quality and The Message. Stratford shoving Shakespeare to the back of the bus in favour of mass appeal musicals has helped them financially but even they can’t resist giving major roles to subpar singers on the basis of ethnicity. And Shaw seems to have largely given up on Shaw in favour of mediocre dinner theater.

          1. No, I’m not from around here.
            That’s very sad to hear. I like some of Shaw’s work, even if he was a damn commie.

          2. Well … now that we’re told Shakespeare was a raging Trannie … perhaps your Festivals will restore “his” works? I believe it was the Trannie UC Berkeley prof. (down page) who edited the Shakespeare page to include her/his/their “transition” …

  3. If even 10% of what is being reported is true then this is the most disgusting crimes I’ve ever read about. A mixture of extreme child trafficking and abuse, a death cult and an international power broker syndicate that was operating for decades.

    The investigation into these crimes has not been adequate considering the severity of the crimes. I assume this because the perpetrators are masters of the world types in politics, finance, business, high tech, Hollywood and academia.

    This is the type of organized crime where RICO laws and perhaps a tribunal investigating crimes against humanity could apply. How you’d find impartial investigators not linked to the organization would be a problem.

    1. Nuremberg X 20. so ya, find some impartiality? it was a godam jail guard slipped Goering the cyanide

      1. There seems to be surprising amount of apathy regarding these grotesque crimes. It is similar to the apathy from the political and chattering class in the UK about the grooming gangs that were allowed to commit crimes for a couple of decades. There was a time, not long ago, where crimes against children were considered the worst of the worst. Like I’ve said before, it feels like we’re all living in the twilight zone. Societal norms and rules no longer apply, apparently.

        The silence of political and spiritual leaders and even children’s advocates is deafening. A complete failure by all institutions to protect children and prosecute criminals who exploit them.

        1. LC
          The ‘CHURCH’ and pedophilia are a thing, and this has been so for over a millennia, so why the stressing now????

          1. All I know is that a lot of politicians like to speak about their Christian faith. They should consider the Epstein files as a test of their faith. If they ignore these crimes against children for political reasons, then I’d say they’ve failed that test -or- they were/are fake Christians.

        2. I just finished the movie version of The Rag Nymph, a Catherine Cookson novel about in 1854. It was normal for women and children of the poor to be stolen and trafficked for the benefit of wealthy English perverts. This is not a new thing.

          1. Maybe … but what’s actually NEW is that the LAW and even the Catholic Church now do nothing about it. Where are the cases against ANY of Epstein’s clients? The Catholic Church has been (almost) sued out of existence and Priest-offenders tossed into jail. But Epstein’s “List” of clients? Nada.

        3. Children used to be sacrosanct … but they’ve now become fair game. If THAT alone doesn’t certify just how depraved our culture has become … nothing will.

          Ai: The term “sacrosanct” originates from the Latin phrase “sacro sanctus,” meaning “made holy by a sacred rite.” It refers to something that is considered extremely sacred, inviolable, or untouchable, often used in religious contexts to describe laws, rituals, or places that are protected from violation or criticism

          Erasing Christianity from the culture … enables cretins like Epstein and all his cumpatriots to diddle children with impunity. Every EVIL has a point of origin.

    2. It also comes down to: what do you know; what do you think you know; and what can you prove? Is there a ‘there’ there? Yes, but can it be proven off the information given beyond a reasonable doubt? Therein lies the problem with prosecution, at least at this time.

      And the push to release things unredacted has done a wonderful job of muddying the water — fruit of the poison tree and all that. That doesn’t help any prosecution.

      But…I suppose it has given people a glimpse into just how filthy the whole filthy system really is…

      1. Yeah, I’m not buying the “there’s nothing we can do” narrative. Everything about this case screams cover-up. With today’s surveillance technology and forensic capabilities, that’s not a plausible explanation for the lack of a thorough investigation into these horrific crimes.

        1. It’s not what can be found; it’s what can be presented in a court of law and will actually stick. No prosecutor is going into a court room with e-mails talking about ‘ice cream’ — it may be well known that it is code, but unless you’ve got better evidence than that the defense will blow it out of the water.

          And as far as surveillance and the like? Again, there are all kinds of hurdles to admissibility — might I call attention to a big one: chain of custody. We just had an administration prior that sat on these files for four years.

          And then we can get into grandstanding politicians (who may have had other reasons besides grandstanding) who helped to muddy the waters like I said. Kind of makes a prosecutor’s job even more difficult.

          This isn’t being blase about it, but it is pointing out the realities as they are now. We’ll see if some things don’t come about, but they may not because (see my comments above).

          1. They haven’t thoroughly investigated any crimes of Epstein associates.. Which VIPs have been questioned? Why has the ranch not been searched? Has electronic equipment been seized? Have any videos been matched to people in the files? Have IRS forensic audits been done on the Epstein associates?

            Many a mobster was taken down by financial crimes, which is why RICO laws were created. The problem of prosecuting coded words is kinda flimsy when this particular crime syndicate appears to have committed so many other crimes. They’ll likely turn on each other to save themselves.

          2. Unless you can bring something more substantial than “you were mentioned as being on Epstein’s island; you are in emails talking about jerky with Epstein”, no lawyer worth their salt is going to let you within a 100 miles of their client or any access to their property or communications.
            Therein lies a pretty big problem.

            And if there is something being done; nobody worth their salt as an investigator or prosecutor would come out and say anything about it during the investigatory phase at the very least.

          3. l repeat a hypothetical prediction. the setting is a criminal case in some court known for high level and serious stuff. RICO things. goes like this:
            an expert is giving testimony on the status of the technology of the day:
            your honour, because theimages originate in digital format, and manupulatimng them can be done at the pixel level because of the speed of the processor, we cannot definitively anymore, tell what is original and what has been modified. the software driven by AI is smart enough to fine tune such things as shape nd size of shadows where they would be if X was either deleted or inserted. even digit images of analog recording, the software can convincingly fake the pops scratches and flicker so preciesly as to be undiscernable.
            the digital forensic profession collectively agrees we cannot authoritatively provide reliable criteria anymore. it is all questionable now.

            and then it all goes out the window. cant get convictions when the defendants deep pockets pays for their own ‘experts’ to provide a matching time and location but different recording of events.

            The End Times are here.

          4. we cannot definitively anymore, tell what is original and what has been modified

            Sure you can. The same way x.509 certificates and digital signatures work. Tamper-proof image formats and the hardware to produce them have existed for over ten years.

          5. To kritter down below:

            Why do you think Obama and the rest were making such a stink about AI deepfakes last year? Anyone on any sort of digitalized evidence is going to go with that defense.
            And remember: the burden is on the prosecution; the defense will go with this because the jury might buy it.

            But…vengeance is mine; I shall repay…and all that.

          6. LC …

            Many a mobster was taken down by financial crimes, which is why RICO laws were created. The problem of prosecuting coded words is kinda flimsy when this particular crime syndicate appears to have committed so many other crimes. They’ll likely turn on each other to save themselves.

            Heidi Fleiss … Madame to the Stars … served 20 months in prison for tax evasion. She never served a day on sex trafficking charges. Meanwhile P Diddy is jailed for doing NO MORE than Heidi Fleiss ever did. Paying women … grown women … an insane amount of money to get their freak on at a freak off or whatever freaks call those sex parties.

            Yeah, that makes NO sense to me … except someone in Power went after P Diddy. Why? Beats me, I have no idea.

            Wake me up on the Epstein “Files” when a single John … a single child fkcuer is put on PUBLIC trial.

  4. Apparently Steve Bannon was very close to Epstein and “talked to each other about seemingly everything”.

    “The files of messages between them contain some shocking stuff happening in the background while Steve Bannon was in very close proximity to candidate and President Trump. The level of disdain Bannon had for Donald Trump’s family and for Donald Trump himself is really something CTH did not expect to see.”

    From.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2026/02/16/steve-bannon-and-jeffrey-epstein/

    1. Ah yes…good ol’ Sloppy Steve. It will be fun watching him squirm, not going to lie.

      Maybe the denizens of CTH need to be careful who they follow?

      1. Did Bannon ever fkcu a child at an Epstein estate? On his plane? Or did Bannon just order ice cream from Epstein? Is Bannon a self-serving egomaniac? Uh, yeah ah ah. That’s why he lost his office in The White House which that surely left a mark on him … such that he whined to Epstein about it.

        I’m really not interested in middle school mean girl gossip as much as I am interested in CRIMES against children … and the vigorous prosecution of those crimes to the full extent of the LAW. With things like evidence, testimony, proof, and Jury deliberation. That’s how our system works. Everything else is prurient bullshit.

        1. There are other things besides criminal charges that are at work within those files. Most people are focusing on the more purient allegations, but what the Bannon-Epstein emails point to is that Bannon may very well have been stabbing our President in the back and working with dear Jefferey to meddle in affairs of state.

          That’s not criminal, but the exposure could cause him to lose some influence, which is, in my opinion only of course, a good thing.

          And the ‘Sloppy Steve” comment was our President’s own back in his first term — wonder why he called Bannon that?

      1. Not a single actionable offense listed. Wow. Good for Wikipedia. Just curious … Will the UC Berkeley Trans-Professor (down page) be editing the this Wikipedia page to “out” the “trans-histories” of all these “criminal” associates of Epstein? I can’t wait! gawwwd.

  5. I dunno…almost half a million kids in North America go missing every year but I’m told almost all are returned home before supper. Phew!!! That’s a relief!!! The rest are just starry eyed kids who make their way to Hollywood to seek fame and fortune and sit around a malt shop all day waiting for that big break. Imagine going to Vermont and finding it empty every year.
    Yet we’re treated to an earful of the worst noise imaginable on the Iphone if junior goes for a ride with dad and the drama queen mother calls it into the police. Watch the media spring into action.

    I can only conclude there are some who absolutely refuse to wrap their heads around the fact that there are some evil, sick and twisted, fucked in the head kind of people in this world.
    Deny it all you want. It isn’t going away.

    1. Story time!
      Toddler came in to a local ER; needle track marks all over its body, presence of meth in blood work, suffering from gonorrhea — evidence of extreme neglect and abuse. The two people picked up with said kid by the cops were not the kid’s parents after DNA swab confirmed. Admitted to buying said child as infant — no birth record, no id of any kind, a ghost kid. Reason for buying kid? Using it for money (you can guess).
      Second story: kid came in to local ER for a cold; techs and nurses noticed some suspicious bruises; kid turned out to have extensive (extensive and internal!) injuries attesting to sexual abuse; cops took parents in for questioning; parents eventually admitted to allowing babysitter to make kiddie porn with their kid…as long as they got their cut…Nobody ever had suspected because on the outside they looked like a normal middle class family — dog, picket fence, minivan.

      And that was just two instances in nowhereville-that-looks-like Mayberry. So yeah, there’s a lot of filth in the world.
      May be why I’m so nasty to people though…among other things.

        1. Oh no, no I have not. Not even close, not even a fraction. And I am very, very grateful for that.

          I like to keep my life compartmentalized; choice is important; joy is important.

    1. Well, dear Jeffery seemed to like cultivating the acquaintance of intelligent people so…

      1. Personally I think it was because the CIA already had kompromat on Justin (i.e. the West Point Grey Academy story), so there was no need to invite him to Epstein’s Island.

        1. Now, now … those cases were all … settled.
          I admit, I find it curious that parents of children who have been sexually abused by famous people are happy to take cash for silence. See: Michael Jackson victims.

          Yeah, yeah … the parents didn’t want to drag their children through the trauma of a criminal trial … SMH

  6. There are no many moving parts to this horror movie.

    Someone needs to pin the FBI down and demand full disclosure on all the documents and especially video recordings on not just Epstein Island but also The Ranch in New Mexico and the NY residence.

    What is it about the FBI that they keep the evidence locked away? It is well documented that the FBI cleaned up all the evidence in the NY residence, many boxes of material removed and never seen again. Where has that evidence gone and how much of it has been given the Hillary hard drive hammer treatment?

    Regular folks don’t have the stomach for what really happened and who the perpetrators are.

    1. I’ve not seen a single minute from a single tape … left in Epstein’s NYC mansion … for Epstein’s Estate to collect. Nada.

      Hence, I don’t know what to believe. We were promised thousands of hours of famous men (including HER) diddling children. I’m waiting.

      1. Yup, there would be a large number of influencers, judges, politicians and media in those. It would be the money people behind the companies as well. How much SRA was involved as well? Maybe thats why they are covering the revelations? There has been much done, much that needs to be accounted for. Will we ever see it?

        For the good of the common man, I hope so.

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