…and It’s Kind Of Weird That Nobody Is Freaking Out?
I actually hadn’t twigged this properly until now. The last manned mission to orbit and land on the Moon was Apollo 17 in December 1972: Gene Cernan, Harrison Schmitt, Ronald Evans.
To date, Cernan is the last human being to have walked on the Moon, on December 14th 1972 – when I was just over a year old.
So yes, this is huge. I reckon we should all be talking about this (yelling, in fact) – and applauding the astronauts who are about to travel further from home than almost any living human being…
With the incredible advancement in virtual reality, the pieces may finally be in place to risk faking “space” again.
Up until now, anyone with the will and applied intelligence could debunk the fiction of space, and the ridiculous footage of “space”, “space walks”, the ISS, and the most pathetic footage of all, the “moon landing”.
The freemasons cosplaying as “astronauts” haven’t helped their cause.
But now they may well be able to show the stars because they can calculate what they would look like from that position, have lighting consistently shining from a single source (req’d with the fictional heliographic model), and for the first time ever show both the earth and “space” in the same video sequence. Including looking back at “earth” when desired.
The days of green screens for ISS footage, swimming pools for space walks, hairspray for “women in zero gravity”, the vomit comet for anyone in zero gravity, and obsolete VR contacts for interacting with weightless objects that don’t actually exist can all be retired.
But I’m guessing that Devon Island will still be on backup for future Mars footage. Which always comes with the risk of someone with a good eye discovering yet another space rodent, or space polar bear.
I grew up with, and still ski with, a guy with three shuttle missions under his belt, including a stopover at the ISS. So unless I totally missed a huge helping of sarcasm, crawl back under your rock.
There are no shortage of people who told others that they were Vietnam vets who never served in any capacity. There are Jews who were found to have fabricated their stories of being Holocaust survivors. To this day, Steven Segal claims to be a legitimate martial artist tough guy.
I can’t speak to why people way what they say, but I imagine if you were to ask your ski buddy a loaded question off the cuff without giving him time to prepare, his response would disappoint you.
I was at his first launch at the cape. Pretty sure I didn’t imagine the spectacular nighttime launch seen from the VIP seating.
Of course not – the launches are a site to behold. As are fireworks.
Though if people claimed that the fireworks flew upwards “to space”, I’d have questions. Maybe not as a child, but hopefully when I grew up.
Otherwise I’d keep believing what someone else told me.
Watto is nucking futs.
I’m a geologist and we had a lab in 3rd year with moon rocks and thin sections of the moon rocks. Simply out of this world. We had to do the lab in the prof’s office to not let the lunar specimens out of his hands. NASA soon stopped the sharing as too much went missing when losers like Watto would five finger discount the moon specimens. Some folks aren’t fit to actually be out in public.
Folks look at Full Moon for some of best of the original Hasselblad photos from the moon released for the 25th anniversary …. beautiful pictures. https://goodreads.com/book/show/922115.Full_Moon
Ah, so you independently identified that they were moon rocks. Based on your previous knowledge of moon rocks and how they differed from earth rocks…
Just like how one could prove anthropogenic global warming by being shown pictures of advanced glaciers that today aren’t advanced.
Gotcha.
Faking a moon landing would be much more difficult than actually going there. And then there are all the people in the control room, they would have to be in on it. Not to forget the US’s number one enemy at the time Russia, they would somehow agree that they actually tracked the mission that never happened…
If this is the first conspiracy you’re diving into, then there are a lot of topics to cover as to how this is done. But that statement is tantamount to saying “Faking capturing a T-Rex would be more difficult than actually capturing one.”
If something isn’t possible, then by definition it is most definitely easier to fake it. The moon is not a solid object and this is provable.
And once you understand that the moon landing was a hoax BECAUSE IT ISN’T POSSIBLE FOR ANYONE TO LAND ON, and not because of technology issues or some other reason, then other questions like yours with Russia unveil more disturbing things.
The moon is not a solid object and this is provable? Provable by who? When and how was this proven?
The multiple observations over the centuries of being able to see stars THROUGH the moon during its crescent phase. Among other things.
LOL…Anyone who’s viewed AI videos on YTube will tell you the time of pulling one’s hair out to separate fact from fiction is truly upon us. Unless of course you think it’s entirely possible for a hunter to pull a thorn out of a Grizzly’s paw and then said bear becoming the hunter’s BFF up to and including bringing her cubs to the cabin to show the hunter how awesome a mother she is. The comments are…how you say?…a snapshot of some pretty confidently stupid people.
Moon shots have been delayed once, twice, thrice, maybe more because of “technical issues”, what technical issues there are now that weren’t there in ’69…they’re not saying.
What am I trying to say? Oh, nothing.
Blast off!!!
Well … I sure hope NASA will be studying terrestrial global warming from the vantage point of the moon. Because that IS their new Muslim-staffed mission … right?
LEM descent stages still on the moon, along with instrumentation used to this day and footprints, photographed by half a dozen nation’s moon probes including India, China and Japan. 800 pounds of minerals brought back, some older than earth’s crust, examined by by geologists worldwide.
I remember when Trump announced Artemis, right around the 50th anniversary of the Apollo 11 moon landing. He detailed that the moon would be used as a gateway to Mars, so that the upcoming effort to the moon was tied to the real objective: Mars.
Global broadcast this interiew at the end of the newscast. Dwana Friesen, true to her NBC roots, concluded that Trump didn’t know the difference between the moon and Mars, and said in her best Barbie voice “astronmy is difficult”! And that attitude is why you don’t hear much about this. Hopefully there are enough 2SLGBTQ+ crew in that capsule that the media is interested.
There are plenty of claims of the things you mentioned above. And we are left to trust those claims. Or not.
There was also a moon rock brought back by the Apollo 11 astronauts that turned out to be petrified wood. Weird.
The videos of the moon landings by China are a sight to behold. It immediately becomes apparent why western audiences aren’t shown them – they make old Star Trek footage appear authentic by comparison.
I know you’re just too smart for the rest of us. They fooled all the hundreds of thousands of contractors, engineers, clerical workers, janitors, doctors and they faked all the launches (even the shuttle launch I saw) and all the re-entries and all the comms and all the stuff in the museums are fake, even the rocks older than the earth itself. But not you. They can’t fool you. No sir.
It’s not a case of being smarter, it’s simply the result of a combination of questioning what other people tell you, using your own brain, and resisting cognitive dissonance, gas lighting, and peer pressure to conform.
Most of the people in the world believe in space. Not b/c of independent investigation, but b/c that’s what they’re taught. Despite education failing in mathematics, spelling, history, etc. for some reason it’s imperative that people learn about space.
And viruses/vaccines, but I digress.
In any case, have you ever wondered why all the rockets after reaching a certain altitude level out? Do you believe it’s because they’re starting to orbit? Or it’s because of the earth’s curvature? I’m genuinely curious what your view is, and not what you might be tempted to enter into Google.
“There was also a moon rock brought back by the Apollo 11 astronauts that turned out to be petrified wood. Weird.”
Not so much. It was an object given to the Dutch National Museum years ago. The original gift was made in 1969 but the mistake was not discovered until 2009.
It is believed the original rock was swapped or that the ambassador was mistaken, as the rock was not officially gifted by NASA/President Nixon, but rather a private gift.
That is the spin provided after the fact. In a most Clintonesque fashion, I might add.
Friesen was a rookie reporter with CKND TV (now called Global) in Winnipeg BEFORE her stint for NBC in the States.
Her roots are in Winnipeg.
Well, that didn’t take long… our favorite FE friend. The phrase “applied intelligence” is lacking in that post regarding the subject at hand. I’ve personally worked with satellites everyday for the past 25 years, but of course I’m the one who is deceived. I have a very good friend who’s brother has been to the ISS twice, but of course he’s a liar. I have another friend who did critical development on the shuttle, but he’s a liar. I’ve been to the far south, Southern Hemisphere probably 30 times (different constellations and no N Star) and yes, the world is round, but I’m a liar. I have another friend who spent a year in Antarctica (24 hr daylight or darkness) but of course he’s a liar too. I have a cousin that flew an SR-71 high enough to see the earths curvature 50+ years ago, but of course he’s a liar and it’s all optics… should we go on? I guess even blasting you up 100 miles straight up would be a lie too.
I really feel sorry for individuals like this as a previous post today on another topic was really good, but your credibility really takes a shot with posts like this. The “win” for posts like this is that someone actually takes the time to respond when it’s really not worth the effort.
I could go point-by-point, but I imagine you’ve already done your own research. You could work with what you’re told are satellites for a lifetime, and so long as you are fairly compensated for your time and effort, you should feel rewarded. Same with your friend who did critical development on a shuttle.
I’ve also been to the far south, and the different constellations and the inability to see the north star are irrelevant. That would be true even were the world a globe. That’s like saying that you’ve been to Nepal and couldn’t see Mt. St. Helens.
I haven’t yet heard anyone that believes that Antarctica doesn’t have 24 hours of darkness. Just not 24 hours of sunlight.
The guy from MythBusters famously flew in an SR-71 and claimed that he could see the curvature of the earth, despite SR-71 pilots having not made the same claim.
I can’t speak to the claims of people you say told you things. I don’t know you, let alone them.
Though I will say that once you are aware that something isn’t real, it doesn’t matter how many people tell you that they know a guy who knows a guy that said/did something. In the same way that I hope we both agree that there are no monsters under your bed, and Santa isn’t real, the moon isn’t a solid object and CAN’T be landed upon. Even were it the size claimed and the distance from the surface we’re told.
There’s a reason why so many flags exist showing a crescent moon and a star WITHIN the circumference of a full moon.
Starlink isn’t real either right?
Sure it is. Why is it hard to believe that that technology wouldn’t exist? The technology is real, it simply doesn’t involve satellites.
Though it does involve a network of high altitude drones, balloons, and other unmanned craft.
Thanks for the reply, and I’ll waste some more time I don’t really have on this. What utter gibberish! I truly feel sorry for you. There are ton’s of videos out there that show the curvature, but they are ALL optical illusions of the Freemasons… right? It’s all a grand deception. James May in the U2 comes to mind right now.
Yes, I’m well paid… and I’m very rewarded by the communications, positioning, remote sensing etc. that has enhanced our lives over the past 70 years due to the orbiting of satellites around the earth. I work with GPS, which cannot work on a FE model (without purposeful deception) but it does… to within a mm.
Feel free to believe whatever you want if it gives you satisfaction but one day reality will smack you in the face. I know you get great satisfaction from getting people to argue over the FE fallacy which truly isn’t worth the time. There is a ton of deception in the world and we can agree on that, but this ain’t one one them.
Actually there isn’t a single video showing any curvature, though it might comfort you to believe there is.
And yes, GPS would work exactly the way you see it work w/o satellites using high altitude balloons, drones, and other unmanned aircraft.
I don’t expect anything I type here to convert anyone. In the same way that de-programming takes experts, time, considerable effort, and at least some participation from those who have been conditioned. But I’ll play my part in hopefully starting the journey for someone.
Imagine that you’re the one who’s wrong – wouldn’t you at least want someone to try to help you? Would you rather I didn’t try b/c I’d be mocked? In the same way that someone might not want to try to save a swimmer who was drowning b/c they may be kicked multiple times in the attempt.
How many millions of people involved with high altitude balloons, drones, and other unmanned aircraft would have to be in on the fraud???
And not just here, all over the world, China, Europe India, Russia Australia, everywhere. 100 million? More?
There needn’t be millions. Much like with false flags, such as the Charlie Kirk “shooting”, or Sandy Hook, there only have to be a small minority in the know.
There are no shortage of people who simply mop the floors in the Houston office, or whose work is silo’d and believe they are contributing to the big picture. People who knowingly use balloons wouldn’t know, for example, that the payload the balloon carries for future satellite or “space” experiments is actually the doing the work attributed to satellites.
I could go on all day.
Nasa is by far the greatest purchaser of the world’s helium, and they have many high altitude balloon launches including in Antarctica. This is not secret information – it’s publicly available but not advertised. Since the dawn of such technologies as Starlink, the demand for helium has skyrocketed. Such that the commercial ramp-up of drilling wells to specifically find helium and hydrogen (sold to the public as an alternate fuel) has recently taken off.
Yeah, do it. And when they return Trump should declare the moon is America’s just for fun.
I’m not going to be content until they kidnap, incarcerate, and then stowe away the President of the Flat Earth Society on one of these missions; And then telecast from space of them unlocking the guy, taking him to the window and pointing back at the Earth and saying… “See?”
Just watching one of those ingrates deflate on live transmission would be hilarious. You know there would be a half-assed attempt at rationalization.
“But…but…but that’s a hologram.”
“Hologram eh? Come with me to the air lock. We’ll go outside and check.”
(Disclaimer: I despise purposeful ignorance)
I’d be more than happy for something to happen to anyone associated with that controlled-opposition site as well.
I wonder how high they’d have to go to make it to “space”. High altitude balloons have gone well over 100,000 feet up (much higher than the ceiling of the SR-71) and videotaped the horizon, showing NO curvature whatsoever.
And up until now, those wanting proof of space have repeatedly asked for a single video of a launch where the camera panned back “from space” to show the earth.
They’re still waiting.
KATE …. can you give this obviously deranged individual a much deserved time out sitting in a virtual corner.
Watto is just wasting space (see what I did there) on the blog!!
So do my words bother you more than, say NME666’s posts? Have I been rude? Have I insulted anyone? Is the purpose of this site to only chat about things we all agree about?
No! No!!
I’m enjoying to back and forth immensely.
I also look forward to clicking on the comments section each time a vaccine discussion is about to ensue.
Carry on!
Well, that’s easy. Your moral and intellectual superiors don’t care to make a big deal out of anything good that happens on Trump’s watch. Orange Man Bad, you see.
You know where we’re definitely not going?
Mars.
Sorry trekkies. I know watching The Martian with Matt Damon made more than a few hearts soar – but among other glaring impossibilities, growin’ taters with your own shit was a bridge too far for this guy.
I know Musk says differently but it isn’t doable and won’t be.
The days of green screens for ISS footage
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Are you saying the International Space Station isn’t really up there circum-navigating the Earth? Because, you do know you can visibly see it from the Earth. Right? I’ve seen it a number of times. That’s a pretty elaborate cover to keep operational. You know, floating some piece reflective metal around on a predictive navagatory path for years and years is a pretty advanced thing to do for a hoax. Why, I’ll bet some entity that could do that might, also, be able to do so with a more functual piece of reflective metal….LIKE AN INTERNATIONAL SPACE STATION.
ISS Tracker:
https://www.astroviewer.net/iss/en/
There are planes that mimic the ISS. (I can’t recall the exact plane off of memory, but it was a DARPA aircraft.) Though the real question s/b how the ISS can exist at the low orbit it is said to “fly” in. According to NASA, the temperatures it would experience would melt the materials the ISS is said to be constructed with.
But if you have a good chunk of the budget of the US, for example, these things aren’t a big deal.
This is freakin awesome!!! I never thought guys like you actually existed. I just assumed it was a caricature embellished for entertainment factors.
Basic physics: When a solid is in vacuum or near vacuum the gas molecules are very, very significantly limited. You need these gas molecules to transfer heat to that solid. Also known as convection. That’s why the ISS doesn’t melt. Not to mention insulation (multiple layers) and radiator cooling / heating systems.
Do you really believe everything you’re saying? Or, are you trolling? It’s hard to tell. The former is scary. The latter indicates you need to practice.
I’m always open to different opinions and devote the time necessary to either dismiss it or put it in my “Warrants further Study” folder.
Bart Sibrel brings up some very good points.
What gets me is how people lose their ever loving sh** when confronted with an opinion differing from what they’ve been told to believe.
It isn’t like Watto stepped on your mother’s head.
Graham Hancock and Robert Schoch can tell you all about how the high priests of academia seek to destroy those who dare question the narrative.
Questioning the narrative is honkey dorey. Telling me that what I’ve seen with my own eyes doesn’t exist, and then backing up that argument with a non-understanding of entry level physics is beyond the pale. You’d be hard pressed to find a bigger contrarian than I am. But, I’m, also wary enough to do my own digging (for research…not a bigger hole).
One of my favorites is watching the astronauts flipping over aboard the ISS. Especially when the invisible wires on their shoulders stretch the material on their jackets as they spin.
Or when they’re doing a space walk and the hatch to the space station bends like a piece of wet cardboard upon opening. Or when bubbles escape from just below their helmets and float upwards. As though they were actually in a darkened swimming pool…
My favorite is British Freemason Tim Peake explaining to a watching audience something about space while above the ISS. Especially when another sharp-eyed viewer synced his teaching exercise to former President George W. Bush being pushed in a wheelchair through a large NASA complex past a green screen where Tim was talking to a camera.
If the ISS was traveling through “space”, then what you say would be true. But it’s instead supposedly travelling at amazing speed through the same layers of “space” where the space shuttle requires space-age heat shielding to keep it from burning up. Insulation and cooling systems aren’t applicable here. That’d be like holding a welding torch to a tin can with a mouse inside, but claiming that it’s ok because there’s a batt of Owen’s Corning pink insulation in there and a hand-held fan.
And yes, I could go on all day. But I tend to do this while at work so can’t hold multiple convo threads, and likely won’t see each one to the end. I’m simply providing some quick counterpoints and relying on memory. I used to believe in the same things as you, but changed my mind now many years ago as better evidence to the contrary overwhelmed my previous indoctrination.
Watto, you’ve just spent a lot of time flooding the zone with all kinds of stuff but you have yet to offer scintilla of evidence, let alone proof, for your claims.
How about starting with one of my favorites: “The moon is not a solid object and this is provable.”
As I mentioned in another thread, there have been multiple observations of stars THROUGH the moon while in its crescent phase. Many muslim countries put this in plain site on their national flags.
Oh, why didn’t you say that earlier? I’m convinced!!
Inshallah.
Watto, all you have proven over and over again is you know nothing about physics and nothing about the properties of light.
And yet I passed all my physics courses and was taught the principles of light. What am I missing? Where do you find I’m short?
You may have taken physics courses and passed them, but that doesn’t mean you actually learned physics.
Its funny how the moon launch is tied in with some archaeology stuff.
I hope they can do it finally. I buy all the LEO manned stuff inside the Van Allen belts – shuttle, ISS, etc. Not so sure we’ve truly ventured outside them. Hopefully they have the shielding figured out.
RNrn
I’ve got to think Watto is having us on. Nobody could be that self deluded and still tie their shoes in the morning.
OK Watto all you had to do is hit these close minded people with the 8″ per mile squared.
Why is EVERY LAKE FLAT? Science is scalable yet nobody, even the PHD’s can’t make water curve. Can you?
Every “Image” from space is just that, an “image”. Not a photo.
Show me a ship on top of the”Globe” and a ship upside down on the”globe”. Never gonna happen.
Why don’t they update the”BlueGlobe”? It has copy pasted clouds on it.
Watch the so called Moon Landing Press Conference. These are liars who “couldn’t remember if they could see stars”. OK..
Is Katy Perry the astronaut gonna take her shiny pony Justin with her to the moon? Maybe Uranus
Explain how we are a pressurized atmosphere inside of the most powerful vacuum of space. This isn’t possible.
Why did NASA “Destroy” all of the data and trajectory info to get there?
Look at a plane flying at 38000 ft. Barely visible. How could you possibly see something like “Stars” 100’s of light years away? or a “satellite” the size of a car? 100 km of altitude?
The curve is not just the horizon, it is EVERY direction like a basketball. Yet most think left to right.
Why are buildings, towers and antennas, 50 miles apart, Parallell? You Globe people should agree they should be visibly tilted, not impossibly parallel 50 miles away. 50×8″ =33 ft of tilt.
You can’t talk on TV with someone overseas without a delay. Listen to the radio comms from the “moon” and explain how they had no delay.
I can’t explain these points. Never mind that “planes”, never correct their flight to compensate for the curve. Why not?
If the earth is spinning 1000 miles an hour, why are clouds not whizzing by, or explain how the air moves with the earth.
Anyway, I’m all ears if you brainiac Globe people can explain these.
Send FILTHY LIBERALS through the Van Allen belt. Cosmic radiation for 35,0000 miles. No human would survive. No atmosphere means no shielding. The “Astronauts” had mylar and a thin capsule. Where did the dune buggy with the functioning satellite dish get stored? If you watch the moon vids, it sure looks like a guy in an RC Car.
“Why is EVERY LAKE FLAT? Science is scalable yet nobody, even the PHD’s can’t make water curve. Can you?”
The sea is curved, and it’s visible from any airplane. Even a tall building on the coast. It’s harder to see on small lakes, but the Great Lakes are visibly curved.
“Explain how we are a pressurized atmosphere inside of the most powerful vacuum of space. This isn’t possible.”
Gravity, it’s called. It gives the atmosphere its weight, which creates pressure.
“I can’t explain these points. Never mind that “planes”, never correct their flight to compensate for the curve. Why not?”
Pilots do have to make corrections. The pilot reads the altimeter, or the autopilot will do it, and it maintains a constant altitude by controlling the aircraft’s pitch attitude. Since the earth’s surface is curved, this results in a curved flight path to keep the altitude constant.
“If the earth is spinning 1000 miles an hour, why are clouds not whizzing by, or explain how the air moves with the earth.”
Friction against the earth’s surface. But in fact, the atmosphere is constantly moving, both with the earth and because of Coriolis Force, a phenomenon caused by the momentum of the moving air (caused by the heating by the sun) and the rotation of the sphere of Earth in space.
For the atmosphere to remain still with the Earth rotating inside it, would require something in space restraining the atmosphere from following the Earth. But there’s nothing there.
We studied all this stuff in Commercial Pilot training. One has to know it to understand weather. And these are just a very few examples. Physics matters here, and only those totally ignorant of physics fall for the flat-earth stuff.
No the sea is not curved, and no you can’t see the curve from any airplane whatsoever. Though several years ago, the passenger windows in planes were replaced with curved windows that give the impression of objects, including the horizon being curved.
A vacuum can not exist beside an atmosphere. Period.
Gravity does not exist, can’t be proven, and is the reason why to this day it’s called the THEORY of gravity. It is also the only force that can’t be reconciled with any other.
Pilots make corrections just like drivers touch the wheel now and then even when driving on a straight road. It has nothing to do with the supposed curvature of the earth.
Every layer of the atmosphere that people experience does not move at any rate even remotely close to the speed req’d for the globe earth model. And so they have to claim that only the upper levels that we can’t experience move that quickly. It’s like claiming that the inside of a merry-go-round doesn’t move, or can’t perceive to be moving, and that just the outer edges do.
Physics is a thing and is perfectly consistent with a flat earth model. Astrophysics is anti-scientific BS that conflates real science with junk-science and unobservable theory like space, gravity, space-time, quarks, neutrinos, etc.
In addition to what you’ve posted, to this day NASA still claims that you can see the proof of the earth’s curvature by watching a ship sail over the horizon. This despite that not being even remotely true. It is simply due to perspective – a basic fact taught in arts school.
And this despite the fact that one can buy a good optical camera and make the ship reappear through zooming in on it, and then have it disappear over that horizon. And then repeat that process several times.
I bought a Nikon Coolpix P1100 with an 83x optical zoom and can vouch for the BS of that “proof” of the curvature of the earth.
It’d be one thing if NASA simply claimed that example as a teaching aid for children, but no, they actually still state that the ship disappears due to the curvature of the earth.
The shadows of solar eclipses also travel in the wrong direction using the globe earth model. Something NASA NEVER addresses. A year or two ago, NASA had to take down their instructional video showing the moon’s shadow travel across the earth when sharp-eyed viewers noticed that the earth was rotating in the wrong direction AND the moon was travelling way too fast.
So they replaced it with…
nothing.
Nobody remembers the names of Apollo 10’s crew (except us space nerds).
Flying around the moon is fairly cool and I would go if asked, but lets save the hype for the real thing: an actual lunar landing.
Thankfully the previously unknown identical twins of at least 6 of the 7 astronauts killed in the Challenger space shuttle carry on in their siblings shadows, amazingly working in the same scientific fields.
On another note, when I visited the Houston Space Center, they had moved the older pictures of the astronauts very high up on the wall with the space crews through the years. Which makes it virtually impossible to see their various freemasonic objects and hand positions from the floor.
Guys, Watto’s trolling you and you’re falling for it. At least he’s consistently amusing.
As for the Moon landing – Star Trek has a lot to answer for. There is no point in going to Mars. Period. Utter waste of time and resources. Bruce Sterling nailed this twenty years ago.
There is a good reason to go to the Moon, but it’s not mining, colonization, science or any of the other fantastical BS that gets bandied about. It’s because space is the ultimate high ground, and if you have it and the other guy doesn’t you can drop civilization-ending rocks on him with impunity.
Why would we freak out over going to the Moon? We’ve all been there:
https://youtu.be/73ks2TPPyho?si=jFiIoSFupkp6BiSV