Margin Of Fraud

The Federalist;

Earlier this month, Fulton County admitted that approximately 315,000 early votes from the 2020 election were illegally certified but were nonetheless still included in the final results of that election.

The admission came during a Dec. 9 hearing before the Georgia State Election Board (SEB) stemming from a challenge filed by David Cross, a local election integrity activist. Cross filed a challenge with the SEB in March 2022. Cross alleged that Fulton County violated Georgia statute in the handling of advanced voting ahead of the November 2020 election, counting hundreds of thousands of votes even though polling workers failed to sign off on the vote tabulation “tapes” critical to the certification process. […]

Voting laws also require poll workers to begin each day of voting by printing and signing a “zero tape” showing that voting machines are starting at zero votes.

If there is no record of whether the tabulator was set at zero at the start of polling, there is no way of telling whether ballots from a previous election (or ballots from a test run) were left on the memory card and might later be counted. Notably, this happened in Montana, where officials discovered more votes than were cast and believe the votes were leftover sample data that had not been cleared.

23 Replies to “Margin Of Fraud”

  1. The logic behind the vote fraud argument seems a little sketchy. Why would all the added votes necessarily give the Democrats the win? Someone would literally have to invent phony ballots to pull that off, which leads to the next question: why wouldn’t the Republicans just do the same thing when they had the opportunity? Wouldn’t each party’s fraud just cancel out the other’s? I have a hard time believing that just having a Republican Party membership card automatically makes you incapable of engaging in fraud.

    1. Assuming the tapes are coming from a Democrat stronghold County … you don’t need to screen for Democrat votes … as these areas vote 90%+ Democrat anyway.

      But here’s the thing that gets me about the “promise of flying cars”. These are computer tapes in our “unassailable electronic voting systems”. Our high tech … “perfectly secured” … voting systems. And they can so simply be rendered fraudulent by a “sworn affidavit” by some flunky vote bureaucrat. SMH.

    2. You are presuming that they were all valid. Did you not see the stories about 10,000 mail votes being dropped off at multiple county offices with very little change in handwriting between them? Or the mule who caught at one of them and said she was hired online to fill them out and physically deliver them?

    3. Also, you presume that both parties commit fraud in equal measure. Do you have any evidence to support this?

      1. You’re the one making the initial claim of fraud perpetrated by Democrats. The onus of proof is on you. If you just toss the onus issue back at me, you’re not making a very convincing case.

        1. “You’re the one making the initial claim of fraud perpetrated by Democrats. The onus of proof is on you. If you just toss the onus issue back at me, you’re not making a very convincing case.”

          So you admit then that you know nothing about the issue, yet you are trying to defend the Democrats by effectively saying, “well, they ALL do it anyway”?

          No, Dennis…they don’t. Only one side spent millions of dollars to *prevent* any legitimate investigations into the 2020 election anomalies from being launched. It wasn’t the Republicans.

          1. I’m not defending Democrats, much less voter fraud. Just trying to understand exactly what the process is by which one can manufacture phony votes. The article doesn’t explain any of that, so I remain unconvinced that this is as widespread as many seem to think it is. Just pointing out some of the gaps in the arguments being presented. Those arguments remind me of the TV show Curse of Oak Island where the narrator constantly leaps to unwarranted conclusions, amounting to baseless speculation, that are only peripherally supported by the evidence that is actually presented.

          2. “Those arguments remind me of the TV show Curse of Oak Island where the narrator constantly leaps to unwarranted conclusions, amounting to baseless speculation, ”

            Makes me crazy. Wish I could stop watching it.. 🙂

          3. With ya, Fred. Dennis’ avoiding my post about the tens of thousands of mail-in ballots, and the woman who was caught in the act and claimed it was a paid job (and your further note about unfolded mail-in ballots) shows that Dennis is acting in bad faith.

        2. I claimed nothing. The initial story made claims. Separately, I provided supporting documentation. You claimed both sides do it. One side has their case on the public record, you appeared to be pulling the other side out of your ass. When asked to support the claim, you blew smoke. Who blew that smoke in your ass in the first place? It sure wasn’t me.

    4. “why wouldn’t the Republicans just do the same thing when they had the opportunity? Wouldn’t each party’s fraud just cancel out the other’s?”

      They never get the chance. These are Democrat run elections in Democrat controlled polling stations. Remember when Republican poll workers would take a bathroom break and then not be allowed back into the counting station? Remember when they were told to stand back too far to see what was actually happening? Remember pizza boxes being taped over windows, or Republican poll workers being told to go home so that a couple of Democrats could then pull ballots from under a desk and frantically run them through a counting machine?

      How about the states who hired 7-8 Republicans out of every hundred applicants, despite laws requiring them to do otherwise?

      (and speaking of election laws, notice that the guilty parties are defending themselves by referring to those laws as election ‘rules’?)

      Don’t even get me started about the Arizona fraud, and the outright *refusal* to comply with court rulings forcing them to produce crucial evidence.

      1. Wouldn’t they get the same chance in polling stations controlled by Republicans? There must be lots of those around. If the penalties for voter fraud are as non-existent as the narrative seems to indicate, why wouldn’t Republicans just engage in the same thing where they have effective control? Who’s going to prosecute them?

    5. Dennis, it is Fulton county, run by democrats top to bottom, it is not Georgia writ large. In 2024, Fulton county voted 72% Democrat.

      1. Seems like an odd place to stuff ballot boxes then. If you have that much of an electoral advantage, wouldn’t it make more sense to stuff ballot boxes in districts where the race is really close?

        1. “Seems like an odd place to stuff ballot boxes then. If you have that much of an electoral advantage, wouldn’t it make more sense to stuff ballot boxes in districts where the race is really close?”

          Good point. I would counter with: maybe the Democrats win Fulton county by so much not because they are popular but because they cheat?

          1. I disagree. Fulton was a big county. The goal wasn’t to win Fultin, it was to inflate the Fultin votes to win the state. Which they did.

  2. Finally someone under oath. It’s not enough to get the perpetrators shot for committing a coup, but the more daylight on this the better.

    One question for any who are sure Biden won: since the percentage of black voters who voted for Trump was the highest in about 50 years for a Republican for president, do you really believe that more individual black voters showed up to vote for Biden than showed up to vote for Obama?

    1. “do you really believe that more individual black voters showed up to vote for Biden than showed up to vote for Obama?”

      I use that one a lot. It usually results in blank stares…

  3. Ray Smith
    Rudolph Giuliani
    Jenna Ellis
    Sydney Powell

    These four individuals were charged with election interference in Georgia for stating that there was fraud in the 2020 general election. They were charged, tried, and convicted or forced to take a plea deal instead of rolling the dice. They were removed from the bar in the respective states. They were fined obscene amounts by the Court.

    And now, Fulton County admits (on the record) to certifying in excess of 300,000 votes illegally. It will be interesting to see what happens next. Sydney Powell, for one, is not a fragile little wallflower who tends to sit out a good fight.

    1. Expect Dennis to pull out “both sides can do it” as if an opportunity to do illegal and/or immoral acts means all people will react the same in similar situations.

      The “mass migration” crises show that, writ large, different cultures mean different moralities (status of women, personal rights, acceptable behavior). There is a similar difference for moral questions, IMHO, between Judeo-Christian believers and Progressives. One side says “if I tell a lie I break the 10 Commandments then I go to Hell”, and the other side says “everyone does it.”

      (BTW, well said!)

  4. According to the interwebs the entire population of Fulton county is about 1.1 million, and they supposedly had 315,000 early votes?

    According to Georgiavotes.com there are about 900,000 registered voters. In a population of 1.1 million that math isn’t mathing. A lot of those voters must be dead people.

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