I Want A New Country

Because I no longer recognize the one I’m in: Montreal church fined $2,500 for hosting U.S. Christian singer without permit.

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Let me get this right Montréal:

1) You canceled our permit for a peaceful outdoor worship gather for no reason.
2) You threatened a CHURCH on private property to not have church.
3) You send a battalion of police to intimidate us.
4) Antifa throws 2 smoke bombs at my head inside the church – you do nothing!
5) Now you want fine the church for doing what the church does – WORSHIP.

Every Canadian should be embarrassed/concerned with this. No bigger scandal in Canada.

What could possibly go right?

Bumped for update.

67 Replies to “I Want A New Country”

  1. Here in the States … Churches are approved with “Special Use Permits”. That allows for a high occupancy use … such as buildings that hold 300-500 people to be located in a single family neighborhood (where those still exist). Why? Because “Special Uses” such as churches, swim clubs, baseball fields, schools, etc. are compatible uses for residential neighborhoods (or at least they used to be). It is understood that church services and special events will be held at these churches and that large groups will gather. They don’t need additional permits to hold special events so long as they don’t exceed the occupancies already approved by their underlying use permit.

    This permit demand sounds legally bogus. It sounds politically punitive. It sounds like Maoist Communist China. Chinada has become a basic dictatorship.

    And yes … the WAR on Christianity is coming full bloom.

    1. Well, quebec has been attacking religion for a number of year, even though it’s full of catholics.

      1. Quebec has been attacking Christianity for a number of years.
        Other religions appear to be exempt. And you have to ask yourselves why that is.

          1. Fine a Mosque!? How about fining every single one of the Muslim mob blocking streets while they pray to Mecca or something? And if those mobs actually obtained permits to block the streets … then WHY? Why do Muslims get to occupy PUBLIC spaces for their rent-a-Muslim-mob?

            Yeah, 2-tier policing … 2-tier Religious freedom.

    2. In the U.S , churches punished for meeting during COVID won huge settlements for abusive closings by governments. Our Bill of Rights is still effective. WEXIT and join a nation with guarantees of civil rights.

    1. heeeeeyyy kenji.
      now that l registered let me say at times sometimes lm scrolling backwards and before l hit the name on the posting curiously sometimes l recognize your writing style and issues. bravo. and you sure as h-e-hockey sticks know politics this side of th 49th

      1. My son in law is Canadian and FN Métis. My grandsons have dual citizenship… US and Canada. Kate keeps me knowledgeable about what my closest relatives are up against.

        1. Trump might solve more than just this issue by invoking the Monroe doctrine of 1843. It’s painfully obvious we don’t have the will or courage to do it ourselves.

  2. L – BREAKING: Montreal Police Storm Church where Sean Feucht is Scheduled to Perform
    Rebel News
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm9UNwCt8Rs
    ———————————————————————————————————————————–
    In the Canada of traditional values, teaching the values of don’t steal, don’t lie, don’t kill and
    love your neighbour, whether you like them or not(et al). Those were the values that made Canada into a trust society.

    The shared values and culture make a nation, with a nation-state being a self-governing people, with functional borders and laws to protect those same traditional values. In some parts of the country, those values(Charter Rights and Freedom included) are being more honoured in the breach than the observance.

    Nevertheless, the West should be able to have trade relations with the post, nation-state, lands
    of chaos and perfidy. But due to the risks of trafficking in their totalitarian, mind virus… visas might be contra-indicated for those from Monstrial and the Greater Torontotalian Areas.

  3. How is that even possible? The guy sings and preaches just like every other Christian clergy and he is obviously legally in Canada. So he gets fined for singing in church. Those frog Nazis are seriously effed in the head.

    1. It’s not just the dipshits in queerbec….he’s been cancelled in NS and a place in ON. Will be interesting to see what the commies in Manitoba do.

      I suspect this whole story will be a nothing burger in SK and AB.

  4. The entirety of Sean Feucht’s X/Twitter has been an expose on tier 2 Canada’s problems.
    I don’t expect anyone in Canada to get anywhere with telling gov’t in Canada that they are wrong. They just don’t care, witness the recent EV mandate still in effect.
    What did President Trump say about those countries looking for a free trade deal while trampling on free speech? To the UK, “No free trade without free speech” and in current negotiations with Europe, much the same thing. No doubt it’s being noticed in D.C.

    https://x.com/MichelleRempel/status/1949125517212274716

  5. Eva Chipiuk:
    “In this landmark 1959 Supreme Court case, a Montreal restaurant owner, Frank Roncarelli, was punished by the Premier of Quebec, Maurice Duplessis, for helping bail out fellow Jehovah’s Witnesses. Duplessis ordered the cancellation of Roncarelli’s liquor licence, not because of any legal violation, but because of who he chose to support. The Supreme Court of Canada ruled that the Premier had acted arbitrarily and in bad faith. It was a clear message: no one is above the law—not even the government.

    That case was not just about one man’s restaurant licence. It was about the principle that public power must be used lawfully, not vindictively.

    And yet, here we are again.

    This week, a Montreal church was fined $2,500 for allowing Christian singer Sean Feucht to perform. The city says it was a bylaw issue, but the context suggests otherwise.”

    https://x.com/echipiuk/status/1949273044213809615

    1. Yup, and in the Roncarelli case the RC church was behind the persecution. I wonder what thoughts Montreal’s current RC leadership has about this most recent example of religious persecution by agents of the state?

      For that matter, what about the other Christian denominations?

      1. This will probably get me in hot water with a lot of the trad Christians here, but there’s a reason I haven’t gone to church anywhere since I was dragged there as a teen, and this, right here, is the reason. I saw it all the way back then, and I’m still seeing it now.

        Am I reading anywhere that the big denominations are camping on Montreal mayor’s doorstep over this? Did I hear even of a strongly worded letter from the Bishop of Quebec, either the Anglican one or the Catholic one? No, I did not hear that. I have heard -nothing- from those guys. Crickets.

        And I heard nothing from them during Covid. They rolled over like trained seals. All of them.

        So no. I do not go to those churches, because they do not appear to have any religious convictions whatsoever. They are focused on their funding and their public relations, just like McDonald’s is. They’ve become corporations that sell daycare to the middle class and hall rentals to Tai Chi and yoga. Which are not Christian things, although I am a big fan of both.

        I expect McDonald’s to be that way,they sell burgers. I expect more from a church. Sorry, that’s just how it is.

        1. Don’t be misled into trusting any church for humble truth and spiritual guidance. Christ calls us sinners to repent and receive salvation from Him. The church is made up of sinful (missing God’s standard) people. Praise the Lord when you find a person who admits this and lives in that humility.
          There are zealous church congregations that are quite opposed to Sean Feucht because his music/performance doesn’t match their strongly held views. I might prefer Alice Cooper, but I’ll worship with Feucht any day because he understands God’s salvation and power.

        2. This (Lutheran) Christian isn’t the least bit offended. In fact, Lutheran Social Services happily sold out America as they sided and participated in the illegal alien invasion of our nation. Why? $$$$$ … pure and simple. The pews are empty. The collection plates are empty. So the church has gone into business with leftist politics. Goodbye USAID $$$$$.

    2. Montréal police are criminals. So are most COVID bureaucrats. But nothing is done since government deems itself above the laws it creates.
      Criminal Code
      176(2) Every one who wilfully disturbs or interrupts an assemblage of persons met for religious worship or for a moral, social or benevolent purpose is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction.

    1. Where exactly is the political Fulda Gap located? Quebec seems bent on becoming Haitian.

      1. The old song: “If you knew Fulda, like I know Fulda, oh! oh! oh, what a Gap!” No, that can’t be right.

  6. Multiculturalism was the nihilism that portrayed Islam as “morally equivalent” to Christianity and now Islam and the pantheism of pseudo-environmentalism have asserted their “self-supremacy” to snuff out Christianity immediately after Judaism. Their useful idiots and dhimmis are the leftists, progressives, Marxists, Liberals, NDP, Greens, and Red Tories and the police state that favors enforcing thought crime over real crime.

    1. They don’t just portray Islam as morally equivalent – they have set it at the apex of their victim hierarchy for the brown and religious. I understand Islam isn’t a race but they don’t seem to.

  7. Holy Jeez! A pastor with balls! He’s what … the 5th or 6th one in the country?

  8. if that fine is f’ing PAID then xians in viva montreal DESERVE a torrent of bad consequences.

    1. I agree, Fight the fine. Elsewhere, the Premier has said he wants to ban all public prayer, which would go a step further than the UK, where a mother was arrested for the crime of praying to close to an abortion clinic. They saw her lips moving , which prompted the cops to defend upon her and ask what she was doing in front of the closed clinic. Amazing how the ones who oppose prayer of the Christian kind, fear it so much.

      1. It’s the Authoritarian way. There’s no use actively opposing them, As Russian dissident Alexander S. counseled it’s best to simply ignore them, thereby denying them what they most crave – obeisance.

      2. “the Premier has said he wants to ban all public prayer”

        Want to stop that shit in its tracks? Call the press saying that your name is Mohammed Ali Badass and that you are going to protest this attack on Islam. Get a hundred bearded/hijabbed people together in front of the legislature and get on your knees and face Mecca.

    1. Unfortunately often all of Canada gets what Kaybeckers voted for. Which is why Canada hangs by a thread.

  9. Weren’t French Canadians heavily devout Roman Catholics? Nothing surprises me in this crap hole anymore.
    In the voice of Fergie Olver ‘How ’bout those Blue Jays?’.

  10. When Islamists take to the streets to pray we are told it’s free speech, oh we all see what is going on and if we continue to tolerate the intolerance of the left we will not have a freedom left. We are going down the same path as the communist in Eurabia, I hope he seeks legal recourse against the police and the Mayor via the world court.

  11. Canada is completely recognizable. When a nation comprised of weak and coward sheep is discovered by people less weak, they will take what they wish. Cowards, being what they are, will feed the crocodile in hopes it eats them last. All the Canadian virtues:
    Tolerance = afraid to stand for anything
    Politeness = afraid of disagreement
    Peacekeeping = afraid of a real fight

    Shithole.

    1. L – “Blessed are the Peacemakers, for they are the children of God.”

      (Frontier was good, but for Peace Officers the Peacemakers meant the bad thought twice before breaking the peace. Hence that was better for keeping the peace. It was muscular Christians that created Western Civilization.)

      1. lemme tell ya about peacemakers.
        as opposed to peace *keepers*.
        the peace *keepers* wait until the shooting quiets down then like the un blue helmets, talk nice a jeepers hostiles ‘dont shoot wese unarmed’ or something.

        otoh George S Patton, a very famous peace MAKER comes in armed to the teeth smashing killing and burning to RENDER the aggressor *incapable* of war and violence. aka he *MADE* the peace happen
        Colonel Paul Tibbets, a famous peace MAKER.
        l got a tat rt thigh peace sign with
        blessed
        are the
        peacemakers
        Mt 5:9
        stitched between the spokes.
        God the Creator has directed this. fine by me.
        smash kill burn destroy the bad ones. fine by me.

      1. So the new rules are that one needs a permit to participate in Christian worship in Canada. Got it.

        1. There are generally laws prohibiting the interruption of religious services, for “any” religious service in their designated building. I don’t know if this transfers to those who hold religious services in public or on public land (as the upcoming service on the AB legislative lands will be)
          Perhaps if the police go into the building (in Montreal) with the mindset that whoever is in there is preaching or singing without a permit, this eases their minds to do what the mayor instructs them to do.

          But, I think this is covered in section 2B of our near garbage constitution, not that it matters.

          On Sean Feuche’s X/Twitter feed he posted in January, of him meeting with and sharing a hug with the Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth. They seemed friendly. It’s not like Sean is an outsider in the US. He knows some folks, the leadership of the USA holds freedoms above almost anything else, and the gov’t of this land is looking at not having a free trade deal for the vast majority of their produced goods, while the only way Canada exports seems to be by discounting their goods with a cut rate dollar.
          A 35% tariff is going to negate that advantage… Is eastern Canada going to export their goods to the EU?

          That’s insane. The business leaders of Canada can’t be serious by supporting the #Libranos. Is eastern Canada “hoping” that things will improve after having to ship/export to Europe to make a sale?

          1. “Is eastern Canada going to export their goods to the EU?”

            No, because A) the EU doesn’t even know Canada exists and B) they do not have any -money-.

            Besides which, Eastern Canada doesn’t really make much of anything, anymore.

  12. Canada’s new speech rules: ‘The Old Rugged Cross’ and ‘Amazing Grace’ are hate speech while WAP by Cardi B and other misogynist rap music lyrics are art.

    Canada needs a two state solution.

  13. Comments on NP: (gotta be some SDA’s in here)

    … Churches in Canada require a permit for each hymn, in triplicate.

    … the Pope is banned from singing in Canada without a Montreal municipal permit.

    … Whistling will get you 2 to 5 in Montreal depending on the tune.

    … any citizen caught singing Do-Re-Mi will have their tongue glued to the flagpole outside City Hall.

    … You can’t speak here! We believe in inclusion so get out!

    … those choirs get so uppity.

    … church thinks they’re “above” the law.

    … The Left feared it might incite the Left.

    … barbarians have lifetime permits, comes with immigration.

    … a guy named Masse is the Anti-Christ spokesperson, for a mayor whose name means ‘vegetable’.

    … They’re going to have to take the cross off their flag.

    … no fines for burning a church.

    … guy sings, frogs croak.

  14. They were fined because they didn’t apply for a permit, for a guy to sing in a church. And would that permit have been granted?

    1. Of course not, that’s the point, you must suffer the bureaucracy so that they can say no, and then fine you more.

  15. I am upset with this crass fascism as anyone. But it 8s up to someone to sue Montreal city hall for the right to worship. Unless someone sues, the attacks against Christian worship will continue.

    1. Again with the courts!! This is Canada, the courts are Librano kangaroo potemkin sideshows, who do nothing but what the Libranos dictate, and give it a veneer of legitimacy. Shithole.

  16. If they were singing about killing Jews, then no problem in progressive Montreal.

    The police would even bring them coffee and donuts.

  17. I hope the city hall switchboards aren’t overloaded by people calling in to get permits to sing or worship in Canada.
    That would be a shame.

    “For events in specific locations like Mount Royal Park, contact the City of Montreal’s Public Events Division or Les amis de la montagne at 514-843-8240, ext. 239 for additional permits. “

  18. What is the point of Canada now?
    Why does it exist, and should it continue?
    What does Canada stand for, in reality?

    1. My father came from post Bolshevik Revolution Russia (got out in the mid 1920’s). He would often say that Canada wasn’t a country….just like the Soviet Union wasn’t a country. Took me a long time to realize he was right.

  19. The sooner the Dominion Dystopia is terminated, the better.

    How it comes about, through a peaceful revolution or not, through a defederation of the provinces, or whatever, I certainly don’t give a shit.

  20. The level of Christomisia shown by the Laurentian elite is rather surprising, normally they hide it better. It must be the TDS that’s got them off balance.

  21. l have a cpl 4X6 or is it 3X4 maple leaf flags.
    occurred to me a cocky little stunt might be to douse them in varsol and publicly burn them in dramatic fashion to demonstrate “the Canada that existed when l bought these no longer exists so no point in keeping them.”
    lm kind tempted but in process selling my house. will advise.

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