Elbows Down!

Former Liberal MP Dan McTeague offers his thoughts on the future of Canada under a Carney government. In a nutshell, it’s not good.

“I think the Conservatives have to be prepared for the Liberals going forward. [They] can always…deceive Canadians and can always get gullible types to go along with COVID in 2021 [and] bad orange man… south of the border in 2025. I’m sure they’ll probably find another boogeyman out there for the next election.”

32 Replies to “Elbows Down!”

    1. the liberals won because Canada is flooded with low information voters. They don’t even explore the alternatives, like Stepford wives they march weakly into the booth and look for the red liberal symbol and walk away happy in their comatose state

      1. Yup – Carney offered national suicide, and enough took the offer. There’s more than one way to interpret Net Zero.

  1. Meanwhile Australia just elected a majority socialist government because ‘Orange Man Bad’. China is happy.

  2. The West’s paradox—-the only way we can change Canada is by finding ways to leave it.

    Of the four options open to western Canada, as outlined here in the last to issues, the first two just don’t work. The Chretien Plan—that we accept the status quo, shut up and do as we’re told by Ontario and Quebec—is both offensive and fatal. That has been the path taken by Atlantic Canada, reducing it to its present state of economic serfdom.

    The second, the Harper Plan, advanced by political scientist Stephen Harper—that we follow the Quebec example by some how managing to assert the maximum possible provincial autonomy with in the present system—is belied by past experience. In various ways, three Alberta premiers tried it: William Abrerhart, Earnest Manning and Peter Lougheed. All three were trumped by the federal authority. How much autonomy we assert will be entirely decided by Ottawa.

    Moreover, we should recognize how Quebec has, namely by threatening to separate. That is the real Quebec example, and it argues not for the Harper plan but for option No. 3, the Gibson Plan that we actually embark on a movement to separate. Its proponent, former B.C. Liberal leader Gordon Gibson, maintains that all we now lack is a leader like Rene Levesque.

    Just examine the platform announced last month by Jean Charest as Quebec Liberal leader. He wants Quebec constitutionally recognized as a distinct society. He wants the provinces to nominate Supreme Court judges, and he wants Quebec’s right too name three of the nine written into the constitution. He wants the present constitutional amending formula abolished. And on and on.

    Not one of these policies can be instituted by a Quebec government; they all represent demands made on Ottawa and the other provinces. Can you imagine, for example, B.C. Liberal leader Gordon Campbell announcing that he will run for office on a platform which will see B.C. demanding constitutional recognition of its special geographic status. Special powers over environment question, elected senators and more B.C. senate seats?

    People would assume he had lost his mind, yet similar demands in Quebec raise not one eyebrow. Why so? For one reason only. Behind Mr. Charest’s demands lies an implicit “or else.” Or else what? Or else Quebec will leave Canada, obviously. Mr. Charest can point to a separatist government at Quebec City. Mr. Campbell can point to no such phenomenon at Victoria. Everyone assumes Quebec really might leave, and that B.C. never would.

    This fact voids B.C.’s ability to win any significant concessions from Ottawa or Canada. The same disability cripples all four western provinces. Unless we make credible threats to set up on our own we will get absolutely nothing by way of constitutional change, or any other kind of change. We will be bashed down ever time. If we threatened to leave and meant it, we would have enormous clout in Canada, more even that Quebec. By refusing to entertain such an idea, we have no clout whatever. That is the message of history—and of the last three elections.

    So am I advocating separatism? No. What I’m advocating is this: the Canadian Constitution, as regards provincial authority, was negotiated in the 1860s. And “negotiated” is the correct word; there was nothing mystical about the process—it was hard-headed trading. At that time the whole prairie region and the interior of what is now B.C. was a vast wilderness with no railways, no roads, no industry, and no farms apart from a few tiny gardens along the Red and North Saskatchewan Rivers. Aside from some fur traders, the people were natives that only recently acquired the horse, living in essentially stone-age culture. This was the western Canada that the negotiators looked upon when they figured out how it would be governed. And the formula that they devised for governing has never been significantly changed.

    But the time has surly come to change it. We should go back to the negotiating table, just as Quebec is proposing to do, and we should go back as Quebec goes back—with other options clearly in view—such as an independent state, or joining the American union. If we go to the table with these alternatives thoroughly explored, tenable and widely understood, we will come away with quite a bit, and a very new Canada will emerge. If we go to the table with out these options, we will come away with nothing whatever. All central Canada need do is stymie the negotiational process and we will have to slump back into the status quo as we always have.

    In other words, we are presented with a paradox. The only way we can change Canada is to develop ways of getting out of Canada.

    The Report
    Written by Ted Byfield

    February 5, 2001

    1. L – Ted Byfield, a man of wisdom and a patriot. Separation, a threat required to save a nation
      or a lifeboat so the viable parts can survive. This, when the captain of the Canadian ship of state is headed, full speed ahead, for a looming iceberg. Though, just before the ship of state
      crashes into the iceberg, Mark Carney will jump ship into a waiting speedboat or helicopter
      to save himself. Just as any James Bond movie villain would do.

      Evolutionarily speaking, Canada was not constitutionally constructed for long term survival.
      The Western Republic Canada could be. Before the fall of Rome, Emperor Constantine, the
      Great, moved and established Constantinople, and the Byzantium Empire survived Christian and free for another thousand years. Because of the schism, this part is missing in the taught history of Western Civilization. The legacy of the Eastern Roman Empire is kept alive by the Orthodox nations of Serbia and Russia.

      Note- Constantine was the Roman Emperor, who legalized Christianity in the Roman Empire,
      circa 333 A.D. His mother established the church of the Holy Sepulchre.

      1. A quarter century later we have a much clearer view of the future. There is no future for the west in Canada if only because Canada has no future. It is about to collapse. Is the west going to go down with the rest?

    2. I agree 100%, it is long past time for Quebec to be removed from complete control over Canada. The problem now is Carney in charge he will bend over backwards to appease Quebec

  3. Gullible? You mean rock hard stupid don’t you? The irony was lost on most I suspect when this country’s Bolsheviks had to look to the U.S. and ask ex Canadians to say a word or two about their “Elbows Up” campaign. Mike Meyers agreed, albeit reluctantly I’d bet…it’s tough to leave your luxury penthouse apartment in NY (or was it his luxury cottage on Lake Champlain?) to fly up to this talent squashing backwater to do a commercial for this country’s communists. His ad featuring himself and Carney at a hockey game was #11 on my cringeometer. I almost died from second hand embarrassment.

  4. And the deep state just keeps rolling along… backed by wealthy communists from China of course…

    Elections Canada is a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Liberal racist Party, but you would think out of an entire bloated bureaucracy there would be at least a handful of people with integrity?

    How do they select for all scum?!

    1. looking for a liberal with integrity is like looking for a needle in a haystack

  5. …we’re f***ed…”Elbows up”? No. Up yours to the elbow. There, I fixed it.

    1. Elbows up! What a joke. More like “tits up”.
      The masses are urged to buy “Made in Canada” when they really want us to buy “MAiD in Canada”.

  6. Canada? Will start to look like Cuba … with people all driving 40yo ice automobiles? Yep. You already have Cuba’s incompetent “free” medical care, so why shouldn’t you have their automotive industry too?

    And why shouldn’t you be OWNED by the communist Chinese? It’s really sad that all the genial people of Canada are not just “nice”, but they’re stupid too. They actually BELIEVE that everything is “free” and you can live in a fabulous, wonderful world where everyone of all colors and creeds can link arms and live without the “meanness” of dog-eat-dog capitalism.

    Nah … you’re not “nice” … you’re STUPID. And in the end … stupid is real nasty … not nice.

      1. You’re not looking for an argument or debate, are you? Yeah, we’re seriously STUPID.

        1. But I’m told the denizens of Colorado, Washington State, and New York are worse!

  7. If CUCKservatives just whine a little harder……

    Cucks are like butt-plugs, and have a shitty outlook on life…….

    And that is on display in here 24/7/365

    1. GYM
      I couldn’t possibly comment re your butt plug knowledge and expertise.

  8. So, Western world, how is that “democracy” thing working out for you now?

    “There is a great deal of ruin in a nation”.

    This is why, once a nation is ruined, it doesn’t recover.

  9. In other news, Japan holds 1Tn in US debt and is planning to use that as “leverage”.

    When you owe the bank $100,000, you have a problem. When you owe the bank 1Tn, … then it is the BANK that has a problem.

  10. If Carney was in the cpc party how fast do you think the msm will expose his net-zero, Carbon tax , tariffs on foreign businesses who fail his net’zero, his tax evasions, his wife’s business in NY,Carney removing Brookfield from Canada, His gas guzzling cars and several homes that consume energy while you live in a hut, tent….. .How fast will the MSM broadcast it? Within a Heartbeat+24/7.

  11. McTeague knows the LPC, its corruption and it’s cunning/ chicanery. He’s not buying. Good on him.

  12. A thought re. separation and various Native objections.
    Let em stay in Canada.
    The borders of AB and SK are no more sacred than the borders of Canada.
    Yep, we want up to Ft Mac, but most of the far north voted red or orange. Ok….see how long the Ottawa teat sustains you with no milk.
    Bu bye.

    1. Let the reserves remain in Canada. Then require a passport and no criminal record for entry.

  13. Poilievre’s riding boundaries were enl;arged, incorporating a l;arge suburban AKA Liberal area and, on top of whicjh, many servile servants moved out to Carleton with the work from home covid scamm.

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