219 Replies to “Final Count”

  1. So even the early promising results from Atlantic Canada vanished. NS 10-1 LPC at a 57-35 vote split (UGH!) and that snake Fraser re-elected. NL 5-2. NB 6-4. PEI as usual all red. So only 7 when it was looking as high as 11 or 12.

    And now it’s official, Poilievre’s lost his own seat, so his political career finishes in outright disgrace.

    I’m not sure exactly when the country became unrecoverable. Perhaps 2015. I think Canadians’ lust for Covid lockdowns and vaccine mandates exposed what they had become, scared little sheep who want a shepherd aka big government to take care of them.

    There’s no hope to take away from yesterday. This country is in terminal decline.

    1. And now it’s official, Poilievre’s lost his own seat, so his political career finishes in outright disgrace.

      Good! Not that I give a damn about this shithole of a country (WEXIT!!!), but maybe, just perhaps, the next “conservative” leader will actually be conservative & not Lieberal-lite.

      1. DB
        I see a pattern in cuckservative electioneering and believe it is either back room stupidity, or intentional.
        As the losses are most often done in similar fashion, and this includes tory losses in ontario.
        PeePee, should have presented himself as able to negotiate with Trump, rather than spout negative BS about Trump.
        But lets not forget the general negative crap on the right, anti gays, anti abortion, anti muslim, anti MAiD, which are mostly personal things that are non of the pounder’s business, so they should learn to STFU on those files.

        1. gym… why don’t you just STFU on your bigotry.
          The religious have every right to speak out on these very important society issues. You’re talking like a real communist when you spout bull-crap like that. Maybe that’s what you really are under that con mask you want us to believe that you’re wearing.

          …and you want us to believe that it’s the pounders that are really liberal? Give your head a damn shake… hard enough to have it fall off your shoulders.

          Maybe that’s why this country is so f’d up. Maybe they’ve abandoned God. Society doesn’t end well when it’s people abandon God. Look what happened to Sodom and Gomorrah.
          Canada has chosen to follow the same path, fulfilling the very definition of insanity.

      2. “And now it’s official, Poilievre’s lost his own seat, so his political career finishes in outright disgrace.

        Good! Not that I give a damn about this shithole of a country (WEXIT!!!), but maybe, just perhaps, the next “conservative” leader will actually be conservative & not Lieberal-lite.”

        Agreed, DB. Cowardice and political opportunism did him in, thinking that he could exploit the “Elbows up!” and “Rah Rah Canada!” lunacy better than the Liberals themselves. Rather than trying his own hand at “Orange Man Bad” , he should have realized that honesty, integrity and explaining to the Canadian people what was *really happening* were his only real chance, and he simply refused to even attempt it.

        100% his own fault. Let’s just enjoy the decline until a real leader emerges.

        1. But, but, but … why blame P.P.? It’s ALL Trump’s fault, right? Trump is nutty!
          Trump wants the border secured.
          Trump wants to deport illegal criminals.
          Trump wants an END to the slaughter in Ukraine.
          Trump wants to stop gov’t. waste of taxpayer dollars.
          Trump wants to reduce … if not eliminate taxes on salaries under $150k
          Trump wants to end taxes on tips and taxes of SS income.
          Trump wants to unleash the energy sector. Drill, baby, drill.
          Trump wants FAIR trade. Internationally… with EVERY country.
          Trump wants to ensure Freedom of speech. All speech.
          Trump wants biological girls and women to compete with biological girls and women in sports.
          Trump wants an end to Lawfare.
          Trump wants to trim the size of a bloated and dysfunctional government
          Trump wants to modernize government technology
          Trump wants to return lost manufacturing back to America
          Trump wants to rebuild Americas hollowed-out middle class
          How “nutty” and outrageous of Trump! Right?

          Good for you P.P.! You showed your Canadian brethren how TOUGH and anti-Trump you’d be. And now you’ve engineered your own P’P’XIT. Good riddance.

          1. In all fairness, Kenji… Trump DID ADVERSELY AFFECT PP’s chances of winning the election.
            Maybe it’s Trump that should have STFU with his provocative talk of 51st state, and his confab with Carny… who at the time had no mandate to affect foreign policy.
            That threat alone spouted the “Canada Strong” campaign which was a driving force in the lieberal win, causing collective amnesia among the electorate regarding the past 10 years of lieberal tyranny.

            Maybe PP made a mistake in siding with the “Canada Strong” crowd, but I don’t see it that way. The way I see it, if PP agreed with Trump, that would have been all the liebs needed to say to Canadians “See? He’s with Trump!!!” You forget that this electorate was conditioned by the conniving lieberals with the couf, the vaccine mandates, and the general fear instilled by the libs convincing the electorate that their sovereignty was being threatened by OrangeManBad.

            Despite the latest polls showing Trump’s popularity softening, I still say that Trump was the best candidate to lead the US, considering the opposition, but a lot of good that did for us north of the 49th.

            Trump could still redeem himself by rescuing the west from the colonialist east, but he’d better be careful in light of this election’s results. We’ll see how these next few months play out.

          2. fc … I agree that PP was in a tough place. Essentially, he was in the same place Trump was during COVID. Initially, Trump downplayed COVID and told people not to panic, because the numbers of people dying didn’t come close to matching the computer modeling. Trump took so MUCH grief and pushback that he had to go along with COVID hysteria just for political survival. And he STILL took crap during the election for initially downplaying COVID.

            So yes, PP was cornered. Yet, I believe he could have far more “artfully” addressed Trump’s tariffs and negotiations. Stamping your feet, and saying NOTHING IS CHANGING… I will RESIST Trump … was stupid. Oh wow! PP will “stand up to bullies”. What a man! What a fool. And now Canada will PAY the price.

            What should he have done? He should have declared he will NEGOTIATE with a negotiator. Trump is a negotiator. Ignore him, or fight him, at your peril. What’s best is that the two countries work out an agreement that is FAIR to both countries.

            And I have to tell you … the more I think about it … the more I think PART of Canada should become America’s 51st State. It would be beneficial for BOTH of us … but in all honesty … MUCH BETTER for you.

          3. Agreed, Kenji. AB and SK would make fine additions to the US economy, and at the very worst, they’d be “swing states” by your standards, giving the GOP a fighting chance during elections.
            Annexing the entire country as a whole would have been foolhardy. It would have turned the US into a one-party state forever. So why would Trump even bring it up?

            I also agree that negotiation would have been the proper course for both countries instead of tariffs, but where I would respectfully disagree with your assessment is PP arguing that in front of the Canadian electorate, who… let’s face it… collectively HATE Trump!!!

            If PP would have aligned himself anywhere near Trump, the liebs and the media would have torn him to shreds. Just look at how they behaved, even AFTER PP denied any ties or alignment with Trump. They lied through their teeth to smack PP. Imagine what they would have done if PP actually proposed negotiation during an election campaign. They would have been given justification to portray PP as our version of Trump. You know our media would do that. Our media is just as bad if not worse than yours.

        2. It really takes skill to be such a worthless c@#t as you are so consistently.

    2. AGREED………we are in for some VERY DEEP HURT in this country…….once AGAIN, KWEBEK & ONTARIO which gets MOST of the Western TRANSFER PAYMENTS…they are addicted to that so why would they vote differently……………WEXIT would cure that……….??

      1. Wexit would also reduce Canada’s carbon emissions.

        An independent Alberta and Saskatchewan could build coal fired power plants.

    3. And now it’s official, Poilievre’s lost his own seat, so his political career finishes in outright disgrace.

      He ran a weak campaign, but it certainly was undermined by Ontario’s Liberal premier, Doug Ford.

      1. I’d bet that Ford wants the big job, and given he’s a rank opportunist, he thought it better to support the Carney.

        1. Yup.

          I’m reminded of the assassins in Shakespeare’s Julius Caesar. Only Brutus took part because he believed that killing Caesar was for the good of Rome. The rest did it for personal gain or ambition. Mark Antony says this of Brutus in the final scene (Act 5, Scene 5):

          “This was the noblest Roman of them all.
          All the conspirators save only he,
          Did that they did in envy of great Caesar;
          He, only, in a general honest thought
          And common good to all, made one of them.”

    4. So many stupid people
      Education system created sheeple,
      Predictably frightened and scared,
      Cowered and easily sheered

      Let the fleecing continue,
      Later on they’ll just skin you,
      It’s all for the common good,
      Then they raze your neighborhood

      1. But, but, but … your new WEF banker will shower Canadians with FREE STUFF!, eh? FREE “Green” stuff

  4. Biden won the US election in 2020 after swing states stop counting votes (to see how many fake ballots were needed to win), the Romanian election got ‘annulled’ when the wrong guy won, and Carney & Starmer, (two candidates that no one in their right mind would ever vote for), are seemingly appointed as the PMs of Canada and the UK.

    I can’t help but think this is all a sham, that elections are just a dog & pony show to mollify the masses, and that dark, malevolent forces actually rule us. I truly don’t believe democracy exists in western countries.

    1. have you ever used a pencil to vote? this was the 1st time ever that i had to use a pencil. take from that what you will

      1. You didn’t have to use a pencil. Elections Canada only provides pencils, but you can use a pen if you want. There are no shenanigans going on with pencils. The ballots are all counted by multiple people in front of witnesses, results tallied and recorded, and the ballots are sealed back up. There is no opportunity for anyone to change anything. Implying otherwise displays a lack of knowledge of the voting process.

        1. Mech
          Yer ASSuming honest people do the counting, I feel many people involved in elections are bought and paid for, including Cuckservative back room boys who are ‘advising; the CUCK leaders. It’s 4 elections in a row, lost to similar stupidity by the leaders.

          1. Having worked in different roles in many elections, I can assure you the manual approach isreliable and the result is correct. Beware any machine voting or counting.

          2. GYM
            or as the saying goes
            its not how you vote that counts
            its who counts the votes that counts

          3. Never discount the inherent ability of the CPC to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. They’ve gone 4 for 4 now. Think of the CPC as the Washington Generals to the Liberal’s Harlem Globetrotters. It’s their job to put on a good show and throw the game in the end. They do their job flawlessly. Every time.

          4. GYM clearly loves cucks too, in addition to ass poundings…yer mighty freaky ain’t cha?

          1. I’ve been a central poll supervisor for years. I got into it because I wanted to learn about election integrity. Anyone who wants to observe the vote counting or voting process can do so by following a few simple procedures. We rarely have more than one or two scrutineers show up to observe.

            If people can’t get off their backsides and put in an effort to involve themselves in the process, they should STFU with their conspiracy theories about why the voting process is corrupt in their minds.

        3. It is not a lack of knowledge of our voting system, which is perhaps the safest in the world, as the average Canadian can volunteer to sit as a scrutineer certified by the party they support to sit and watch the ballots as they are counted. The problem with the system is that the average Canadian is as dumb as a bag of hockey pucks on an outdoor rink in Saskatchewan in January. Why any sentient, critical thinking, human being would vote Liberal after ten years of scandals, grift and corruption just because a banker is now the leader is beyond comprehension.

          2. “Why any sentient, critical thinking, human being would vote Liberal…”

            Yeah. That’s where I am today. I’m just sitting here, again, wondering what the f- goes through people’s heads.

            It’s like they’re standing at the gas pump, filling up the gas tank of their car full of screaming kids, with a cigarette in their mouth. Oblivious to everything, not even engaging a brain cell. And if I go and tell them to butt it out before they kill us all, -I- am the bad guy.

            I finally understand what happened in Nazi Germany.

        4. // There are no shenanigans going on with pencils ??
          Apparently the paper is produced to make pencil erasing impossible.

      2. At the pole where I was a DRO, Election Canada provided pens at the voting screen.

    3. You may be very close to the truth.
      Too all those that say that our elections are secure (with all due respect to Robert of Ottawa), I seem to recall a video of an obvious lieberal lunatic defacing a conservative candidate’s signs, caught by the candidate himself, and actually arrested by the police.
      He was working for Elections Canada, as a returns clerk, of all things.

      As Ynott eluded to in this thread…
      its not how you vote that counts
      its who counts the votes that counts

      I hate to agree with anything gym says, but in this case, he may be on to something.

  5. The crap they pulled re Carleton and Sean Fraser was quite visible. Knowing how Librano$ are, I’m pretty sure they did other shenanigans we can’t see yet in other places where a Liberal win/Conservative loss was critical.

    Anyway, I think the demise of Canada will be faster this way. Carney is incompetent re Finance, he proved that while in UK + he’s ZERO re politics. Most probably, this way Canada will be much easier to overtake by US.

    1. This is what Trump is up to:

      https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2025/04/28/how-the-nafta-usmca-2016-review-underpins-president-trump-remarks-on-canada/

      Essentially thanks to Trudeau and Nancy Pelosi, Trumps’ hands were tied until the 5 year moratorium on trade negotiations with Canada ends this Summer. Then he is free to negotiate with Canada once more. He doesn’t want NAFTA, he wants individual treaties with Canada and Mexico and that is how this will play out.

      The US and Trump don’t want Canada. We want Canada to fix itself.

      It’s up to Carney/Friedland and the Laurentian Elites. Let’s see how smart they really are. Chretien was a Liberal who didn’t like the US much but he liked Canada. Does Carney like Canada or the WEF?

      1. Well 🙂 we all know very well the answer to that. I understood from Steyn’s last text that Tony Blair convinced Carney to run for PM, and it took some work/time since Marx Carnage was quite ok with having a nice-posh do-nothing job at Bank of England.
        But Yeah, the text from ConservativeTreeHouse explains a lot + Trump has much more leverage against Carney so future negotiations will be easier.

        1. Tony Blair convinced Carney to run for PM

          The more I hear about Blair, the less I like him.

      2. Most Americans, if they have any knowledge of Canada beyond the Dudley Doright level, see Canada as an important ally with whom we share so much that we want to be close. I am sorry to see that CBC controls too many Canadian minds. It is a powerful lesson for us about PBS and NPR.

        1. It was … compared to NAFTA.

          But times and things change. America cannot survive without a viable manufacturing middle class. Yes, you should all be interested in what’s best for Canada … and I guess you all just voted for “a better Canada” according to your electorate. A Canada that tells Trump, America, and Americans to Go Fkcu ourselves. That’s your right, and I will defend your right to be stupid as I believe in God-granted Free Will and the Free exercise of your lives. You’ve now officially given America a big middle finger! Woo Hoo!

          However … I will remind you that Free Will doesn’t ensure Smart, Mature, Reasoned, decision-making. And let me remind you that emotional responses are transient and mostly meaningless. But if you all F-E-E-L good today … I suggest you cling to that feeling … because you’re all about to PAY for your poor choice … with REAL PAIN. And, no, it won’t be America, Trump, or Americans causing that PAIN … the PAIN will be coming from within your own house

          1. Kenji… I don’t feel good today, and I think it’s pretty apparent that the vast majority of this blog’s users feel the same way I do. Yes, this country is in for a world of hurt, which is why I am praying that Alberta, and who ever wants to join us, secedes from this shithole country. I would love it if Alberta saw the wisdom of joining the US, but for now, I’d be satisfied with us just becoming independent — free from the colonialist bastards back east.

            I suppose you are referring to the collective electorate of Kanuckistanians who are undoubtedly celebrating this morning, but please remember that we don’t all feel that way. According to Elections Canada, at least 40% of Canadians voted with their brains. Please don’t lump us in with the rest of the lieberal lunk-heads, who haven’t a clue of what they just voted for.

          2. I don’t fc … my real emotion at the moment is empathetic sadness … worry for what’s going to happen to Canada. Concern for my philosophical brethren on Kate’s pages. Concern for your children and grandchildren. Concern for my own grandchildren who have dual US-Canada citizenship.

            We are truly brethren, as I am a conservative in California. I feel your pain, because I LIVE that pain. As I said above … I believe there are at least a couple of Provinces that would benefit greatly from becoming Americans. I am sure you’d like to secede from Ottawa as much as I want to secede from CA.

    2. Like Carney’s upcoming doubtless damning financials, China interference and support of (not “targeting”) Carney, Trump shutting down the Ontario auto industry and the utterly negligently biased mismanagement of information by the mainstream mediocracy, these shall occur after the election when, once again, it’s too late.

      IOW, the usual strategy, the one that worked to perfection in 2015. We can count on the same result.

      Watch for prefab houses stacked together, paid for by greedy boomers’ lottery win house equity, which, while it will create quite a boom due to lottery winning avoiding sales, it shall destroy the home realty market.

      Once again, sought revenues become what Carney the economist learned is “negative marginal tax revenue.”

      Aka more borrowing, more inflation, higher interest rates, followed by yet another progressive doubling down.
      For the unlucky lottery winners who do sell, they can join their children in the Soviet rental housing projects.
      The Apparatchik Administrative state shall further assert itself to increase Canadians’, that is, their, fortunes.
      And the West will say, good show everyone, let’s get them next time. No, they won’t, Preston Manning is right.

  6. If you thought Trudeau deficits were bad, Carnage is going to make Trudeau look fiscally responsible.

    Question. How long until Carnage restores the carbon tax?

    1. Joke
      Try listening to what liars say for once, Marx likes the your-O-peen model, and gas over there is quite expensive, but no VAT, just hidden in the price presented.

      2. ГЫМ

        Carnage will have a carbon tax. It may be hidden, but you will still pay it.

        Carnage can also restore the consumer carbon tax with a stroke of a pen. Since Quebec didn’t have the consumer carbon tax (they have cap and trade), the Bloc would support its reintroduction to the rest of Canada.
        Note the cap and trade tax amount Quebec paid was less than the rest of Canada was charged.

        “no VAT”? Europe has quite hefty VATs. When I lived in Europe it was 21%.

      3. The VAT only works if income taxes are repealed, revenue rolled into an overall sales tax system and is much more effective at managing its effects on the non-income taxed poor, with far less economic distortions than income taxes. Europe, OTOH, did both.

        But that would involve thought and sincere desire to help Canadians, rather than just rule them.
        Hmm, hours of data, analysis and thought, considering other’s ideas, or living the good life off our poor.
        Which will they choose? The End.

      4. Again with the peen…creep show. Methinks your homoeroticism is showing…

        1. Er, his homoeroticism has been flashing like garish neon over Times Square for some time now, Mr. Observant. He’s gayer than bottled coffee.

          1. True I was soft shoeing it a tad. No longer. Agreed GYM loves smoking sweaty hogs while the pounders nail his ass all day long.

            All. Day. Long.

    2. What time is it? The carbon tax wasn’t revoked, but simply set to zero to fool the voters. It can be brought back immediately and with all the additional increases, probably the second after the new government is sworn in.

  7. This is fabulous news!

    Finally the people who love freedom, justice and prosperity, the ability to own your own land and your own house, to raise and protect your family as your mandate and responsibility, now have an opportunity to congregate and consolidate. We can decide what kind of country we would like to have and what form of Republic we would like.

    Time to shake off the boot from our neck, the thief from our bank account.

    Freedom will now cost us much more, but will be sweet victory in the end!!

  8. I have to question the sanity of the voters in my riding of Edmonton Strathcona. Not only has it remained NDP, but the MP, Heather McPherson, is quite unpalatable, considering her open cheering for Hamas in the House of Commons.

    Yet, I don’t recall her ever campaigning on that issue. Her biggest beef was that the riding might actually have gone back to being Conservative after nearly 20 years of being orange.

    1. There is a university with 46,000 students in that riding.
      Were you expecting a PPC upset?

      1. I can see my alma mater from my balcony, which was one reason I chose to live here many years ago.

        The thing is that the riding was right-wing until that buffoon Rahim Jaffer made an absolute ass of himself in Ottawa.

        What baffled me, though, was she openly advocated support for Hamas and, yet, she was re-elected. Either I’m surrounded people who aren’t paying attention to the news or they’re vehemently anti-semitic.

        1. On those rare occasions I pay attention to the news, I see more than a few vehement antisemites. If you can see U of A from your window maybe you’ll see ’em too.

    2. Don’t lie LD. She called for a ceasefire. Most of those dying weren’t, and aren’t, Hamas.

      3. “Don’t lie LD. She called for a ceasefire. Most of those dying weren’t, and aren’t, Hamas.

        BULLSH*T they aren’t.

        And Hamas can have a ceasefire any time they want it: release the hostages and surrender. Or (and this is my personal preference) keep fighting until you are all dead.

  9. We’re probably in the same situation, a Liberal minority propped up to majority power by the NDP, when the Liberals became openly hardcore socialists (a political philosophy indistinguishable from fascism) merger with the NDP became inevitable. How can the NDP compete? I expect the country to be looted and crushed in the name of the cause, as Mao said, everything must be burned down because the phoenix that rises from the ashes will be so much better than the evil system (western civilization) that existed.

  10. Trump’s response will cause a few loony lefties’ last remaining braincells to explode

    1. Who gives a fk what that syphilitic imbecile has to say about anything. Nice to see China humbling that old windbag

      1. Enjoy being ruled by China-lite. You will get used to your religion, your opinions on same sex marriage, global warming, Hamas etc. being used to debank you and starve you. Have you read any eschatology lately? Lining up pretty damned close.

  11. Gee, that sure looks like a country completely divided. No commonality between East/West, North/South. Quebec wants to separate. Clearly the West now REALLY wants to separate. Who would have thought that remote northern wilderness and major Canadian cities would be on the same page, but really they aren’t. Everything from this point forward will be simply to satisfy every Quebec demand to remain in power. Every Blue area will be screwed on purpose by this vindictive globalist Net Zero marxist.

    This country won’t be around in 4 years.

    1. Quicker, I hope, but I doubt anything happens because I have learned that Canadians are cosseted cowards. And now the pain will continue unabated.

  12. Well, I called a Liberal minority a week ago, but I’m still shocked that Ottawa-Carleton appears to have turned its back on Poilievre after 20 years.
    Now Carney gets to do the hard stuff, and wear all of it. The next year’s gonna be ugly.

    1. The running of so many candidates in Ottawa-Carleton looks like a (Liberal) dirty tricks operation which was designed to confuse voters.

      1. That’s what I thought at first.

        But now I believe the increase in public servants by 100,000 is the reason.
        I realize not all of those newbies live in Ottawa, but quite a few.
        As well, many have retired in the last 9 years so they get replaced by party members.

        Ottawa is red everywhere now.
        The suburbanites I thought may be afraid of anti O&G Liberals and losing their gas cars have been overtaken by brown snivel servants.

      2. SO many candidates that have the same official agent… and I bet that their signatures on the nomination papers are all the same people.

          1. The 91 independent candidates in Carleton got a combined total of 840 votes. Not enough to matter.
            The NDP in Carleton went from 8,000 in 2021 to less than 1,200 in 2025. Those Dippers, a large proportion of which are Ottawa civil servants, flocked to the Liberals.

        2. It’s a protest group against first past the post. They’ve been doing this in every by election the last few years.

    2. It’s now the riding of Carleton. It went through redistribution in 2022. So it’s essentially a new riding. With different demographics. Obviously not friendly to the Conservatives. Ottawa, being a government town is no friendly to Conservatives. You need lots of rural voters to win around here.

  14. Are May’s voters STILL that stupid? Party of ONE?

    Not even listed by party name in the official government results.

    1. anton
      You are really STUPID ain’t cha, Max votes are protest votes to give the bible pounders a heads up. Butt it’s the stupids who whine about suff that is none of their business that help throw this election to the libtards. Now STFU jackass.
      I speak to a wide range of people, and the religious based crap is what turns many off the CUCKs, and that includes some cons.

      2. I don’t want to speak to the people you are speaking to, gym. They sound just as bombastic, ignorant, and as hateful as you are.
        I wish you would STFU, and give us all a little breathing space. You’re polluting the atmosphere around here.

    2. “PPC 0.7%

      Maybe now people can STFU about Max.”

      And the Green Party too, right?

  16. I think Trump, in the interests of the USA, thoughtfully made his “51st state” comments to help Carney win.

    Why would he do that? Because I would assume that a lot of Brookfield Asset Management’s assets are in the USA, and Trump could threaten those as leverage against Carney to get the best deal for the USA at the expense of Canada, something he could not do against PP.

    1. Trump doesn’t need to threaten Brookfield.

      Trump knows Carnage wants to shutdown future oil developments, tax big CO2 “polluters” such as steel, cement, etc. These companies and their investors will move to the U.S.

      And with Carnage’s push for EVs, US auto plants will be able to sell in Canada.

    2. Reader
      YUP!!
      Or destroy Canada as a nation, so it becomes easier to fold into the USA as 51st state.

    4. Carney moved BAM to the states, gr5eat patriot that he is 🙂 But I have been baffled by Trump’s approach to this election, he certainly did help Carnage.

      1. No big surprise, this may stoke Alberta and Saskatchewan separation, which is good for the US whether joined or independent, and who in their right mind would want to be shepherd of the spoiled coward sheep in the rest of this diseased shithole?

        1. I don’t know where you live so I can’t comment on that area, but your last two words certainly describes what has become of where I live in the Greater Toronto Area.

    5. Actually, I don’t think Trump really thinks ahead. He just blurts out what is top of mind. He rightly perceives Canada to be economically very weak. We will soon have a choice to join the US or languish in our poverty. Strong regions will likely choose to join the US or maybe stand alone Weaker areas will simply embrace poverty.

      1. Divide and conquer, Linda. Divide and conquer. Trump is Obi-Wan-Kenobee, “These are not the bots you are looking for.” in other words “Canada” is not the country Trump wants. Canada is now three distinct separate geographical areas which by their own actions will be easier to assimilate. Quebec which has been holding the other areas in contempt for over 150 years, the west which contains the most of the natural resources, and the ‘intelligent’ triangle’, London/Windsor-Ottawa-Montreal, which cannot exist without the other areas. The west now knows that as things stand they will never reap the harvest of their efforts and will begin in earnest the sessesion that Quebec has been threatening with for years. Once that happens, and there is no way to stop it, America will flood the area with capital. That leaves Quebec crying in their beere, and the ‘intelligent triangle’ stupidified that the west had the audacity to leave. Monroe doctrine accomplished with not a shot fired and a fifth face carved into Mount Rushmore. Divide and Conquer.

      2. Then again, it is entirely probable that Trump never wanted the whole Canadian pie. Trump would be a fool to absorb two more Californias into the American voting pool, and he has his political demographic map now. The last thing most Americans want is ON and QB voting in our elections. They would have some moron like Bernie and/or AoC in office just out of spite. No, AB and Sk were always his targets, and now he may very well have them.. but a complete and unobstructed path to AK is the real prize.

    6. Look up “Kushner, Brookfield, 666 Fifth Ave, Qatar.” You’ll see how much influence that Carney has over Trump!!! Yes, it’s incredible, but it’s all there.

      Jared Kushner, now a senior adviser to President Trump, purchased 666 Fifth Avenue for the Kushner Companies in 2007 for a record $1.8 billion.
      However, the purchase was ill-timed, as the global financial crisis dealt a significant blow to the real estate industry, and the building struggled financially.
      The Kushners attempted to sell parts of the property to cover debt, but the building remained a financial burden.
      In 2018, Brookfield Asset Management took a 99-year lease on the troubled building, paying the rent for the entire term upfront, which relieved the Kushners of their biggest financial headache: a $1.4 billion mortgage on the office portion of the tower.
      This deal was seen by some as potentially connected to the lifting of a Saudi blockade of Qatar, raising questions about whether the financial interests of the Kushner family may have influenced U.S. foreign policy.
      The building, located in Midtown Manhattan, was originally built in 1957 and has been transformed into a Class A office building by Brookfield.
      Despite the bailout, the building’s history and the circumstances surrounding the deal have been a subject of controversy and investigation.

      1. So, parties long active in the New York real estate market can be shown to have engaged together in a New York real estate deal, and this justifies setting our hair on fire (“controversy”).

  17. Canada’s economy will continue it’s slide. The standard of living will continue to decline. Crime and the drug trade will get worse and worse. Taxes will bleed us dry but the eastern half of Canada will still keep voting Liberal.

    Probably a time to make sure you have an exit plan. Find a nice foreign country and start to liquidate Canadian assets to fund your relocation.

    1. Way ahead on that LC, 75% of my assets are in USD, and I’m a dual. Haven’t dedided on the US for sure, but considering. Mexico and Panama also attractive, as is Argentina.

      1. Yeah, we need to visit a few countries before making a final decision. Mostly in south or central America. Friends have told us to check out places like the Philippines and Thailand too. Might live in the USA near the Canadian border for a few years for family reasons. My husband is a US citizen, which should make relocation easier.

        I would prefer to stay in Saskatchewan in an independent Alberta and Saskatchewan but we’ll have to see how things evolve.

        1. A down-payment on property in Alberta within the next six months could prove to be very beneficial financially.

          1. Pretty sure I could “rent” a basement suite from one of my many relatives who live in Alberta and become an Alberta resident rather quickly. An independent Alberta is the only way for Alberta to reach its economic potential. Ditto for Saskatchewan.

            Canadians are repeatedly voting for steep economic decline. Alberta and Saskatchewan should say goodbye to Canada and save themselves.

          2. Now do you see why I moved out here?
            My first choice would have been to move to the US, but that proved impossible given my particular set of circumstances.
            So I did the next best thing.

            If you can’t bring Mohammed to the mountain…

    2. Well, I hear Vietnam is very inexpensive and it also is a Communist country like Liberal Canada.

  18. If you click the prov. numbers, you will understand why the pollsters lump SK and MB together.
    By mixing MB and SK, they dilute the fact that SK is more conservative than AB, and by doing so isolate AB, and make her the target. It’s easier to have 1 target, rather than 2 or 3.
    MB has had little in common with SK, since the ’70s.
    Any movement for SK and AB would have to exclude MB, atleast till what’s west of the 99 degree longitude leaves MB. What’s east of the 99th can stay in Canada.

    1. I agree 100 percent. Place the border at 99 longitude. Personally, i’ve been on the separation train since the early 80’s. Living in east central Alberta in those days (Viking Ab.) convinced me that this country is not worth saving. Republic of western canada or 51st state. Bring it on.

    2. Correct, Carl.
      I raised an eyebrow when I saw how the pollsters combined results from SK with MB. Wondering why the hell they would do that? The two provinces have little in common, but after pondering, I came to the same conclusion you arrived at.

      1. It’s quite normal to lump Man and Sask together for polling purposes. Not because anyone imagines that they’re an integrated unit, but because for polling purposes they’re a bit small, but work nicely combined. Alberta makes an obvious unit and is obviously distinct from the rest of the west, so there’s a rationale for treating the West as Alberta and the rest. This has all been common practice for years. It may not be appropriate in this case but it’s not sinister.

  19. The plan is to run $50 billion deficits plus for the next four years. With what the last ten years add up to as the biggest generational wealth theft in the history of Canada. Anyone under 50 should be making plans to move out of the country.

  20. The electoral riding map represents the illusion of Canada being a united country in its people. It was never designed initially to work equally and never will unless we decide to change it. They have won and now its our turn in the west if we decide to create our own destiny and take that power away from them. Canada is in my rear view mirror, lets move on to a better future.

  21. Looks good to me. You people in your loony far right echo chamber are slowly realizing that Canadians roundly reject your views. You can’t win an election on the back of angry incels and other assorted nut jobs.

    Thank God loser PP went on Jordan Peterson’s show to talk shit about Canada, because it exposed him for the extremist he is, and after that Canada was done with his Con job.

    1. Enjoy Carnage’s massive deficits, riding public transit, and high taxes.

      Carnage’s personal money is invested in the US.

      1. Joe, Spare Ribs probably doesn’t care. He/she/they is probably a childless government worker who looks out only for themselves and is not concerned about the future because there is no lineage and all there is to focus on is the here and Godless now. They are concerned mainly about access to weed, “free” healthcare, and the pricing of blue hair colour dyes.

    2. Calling PP or Conservatives generally ” far right” is simply nonsense. Canadians are not ” far right” period. Moreover, Canadians agree on about 90% of the stuff. If anything, these days, the left is seeming “far left”. The country is going broke. Nearly all of the GST goes to servicing the debt. And yet, the left calls any attempt to reign in spending ” far right’. Pollievere is to be commended for the lengthy interviews he gave. Carney could not be bothered introducing himself to Canadians and explaining his ideas — preferring phony hockey photo ops. This showed no respect for democracy, but in ignorance many people fell for it. Canada will pay a steep economic price for such thoughtlessness.

      1. Your average conservative voter is to the left of Bernie Sanders. A slight exaggeration, but definitely to the left of the most centrist Democrat in most issues.

        1. “Your average conservative voter is to the left of Bernie Sanders. A slight exaggeration, but definitely to the left of the most centrist Democrat in most issues.”

          Yes, the CPC would all be considered Democrats down south. The Liberals would be laughed at and the NDP would just be banned outright.

        2. I think the Conservatives are the most centrist of the parties now that the Liberals veered hard left. Either Canadians do not see that, and or they themselves have abdicated the balanced centre for left extremism. Some will disagree with this but virtually all of a Trudeau’s (Carney’s) policies have been both extreme and detrimental. (drugs, crime, immigration, climate zealotry, MAID, excessive spending, preferential identity politics, etc., This why a lot of Canadians no longer recognize their country

    3. 41%
      That’s a lot of loons, JSR…
      Maybe too many to fit into one echo chamber, you moron!

      But not to worry… You’ll soon be rid of about 6.3 million of those “loons,” (I hope).
      Let’s see how well you will get along without us.

  22. Green Jobs are BROWN JOBS.
    WITH THE 5,000 000 extra FILTHY LIBERALS brought in from India to replace us, WE WILL NEVER WIN ANOTHER ELECTION.
    NEVER.

    To All my LIBERAL Canadians. – Congratulations.
    To my Grandfather that fought for 6 yrs for this Country? ……crickets

    1. You are correct. They did what the Democrats in the US wanted to do. This was Canada’s last election. The country is over, and we will never ever win another election.

  24. What is worst of all is hearing the commentators state that it was because PP catered to the far right of the party, rather than be socialist. This is how the media steered the election. As I have said since the time of the Alliance, the job of conservatives is to convince the “middle” of the electorate of the conservative position, no0t pretenmd they are not conservative.

    GRRR

  25. You can be sure. China is looking to pick up the pieces as Canada sinks even lower.

    Darn shame…. )-:

  26. I honestly don’t care that PP lost his riding, but it seems odd that the ballot was so long. What are the odds that a bunch of lib strategists realized, “if we get a lot of names on the ballot, like a lot, PP will find his name way down the list and people will have a hard time finding his name. We shouldn’t get Helen Aaronsson to run, that’s too obvious, but if our candidate is in the first third, before the other party’s, we’ll get a boost from fatigue”

    Are nomination signatures ( not party nominations, the names of electors in the riding you need to get on the ballot) available? It’s be interesting to look for overlap

    1. Having worked elections going back to the 70’s, that is a very high probability.

      I know that when, present Ontario NDP MPP, Peter Tabuns, was a Toronto City Councillor a long time ago, that he had pushed for the ban on smoking in bars and restaurants, so the local restaurants encouraged a Mr. Tabins (I can’t remember if he had the same first name) to run against him, which ensured Peter Tabuns lost.

    2. I care. PP put forward a gargantuan effort and lost the popular vote by only 2%. If I were he, I would say F-it at this point. Canadians are governed by ignorance and indifference. They deserve a weak opposition leader, as the next Conservative leader will no doubt be, and perpetual Liberal abuse. PP will go down as the new ” Robert Stanfield” as best PM Canada never had. Those cheering PP’s loss care nothing for the good of the country.

      1. ” Canadians are governed by ignorance and indifference. They deserve a weak opposition leader, as the next Conservative leader will no doubt be, and perpetual Liberal abuse.”

        They already had a weak opposition leader. A strong one could have easily beaten Carney.

        “PP will go down as the new ” Robert Stanfield” as best PM Canada never had.”

        I doubt that. Stanfield was a ‘progressive’ conservative (aka Liberal Lite). Poilievre has made too many poor decisions to be thought of as anything different.

        “Those cheering PP’s loss care nothing for the good of the country.”

        Or we do, only we believe that his loss is just one more step towards a desperately needed political realignment in Canada, similar to what is happening right now in the USA.

    3. They all share the same Official Agent, and I would suspect that the 100 people that signed the nomination papers are the same people all the way down.

      1. Doesn’t matter.
        The entire 91 member independent candidate group only got 840 votes in total among them. Not enough to defeat Poilievre. It was the 7,000 NDP voters who shifted to the Liberals.

    4. Adam, besides the confusing long ballot Poilievre’s EDA was gerrymandered prior to the election and a very large number of migrants, not familiar with the concept of democracy and speaking little if any English or French, were moved into the newly defined ridings.
      These major moves, coupled with the Liberals usual dirty tricks during elections, were enough to shrink/confuse Poilievre’s historical voter base.

  27. I decided to sit this election out. I didn’t pay attention to the media. I didn’t go to any rallies. I can see why the liberals won. I don’t cherish that thought after the disaster of Trudeau but I can see how the liberals won. The only bright side is that this may well trigger an independence vote by the ‘west’ and finally Alberta and Saskatchewan and northern BC will be able to attain a level of freedom and economic independence that they have longed for since before confederation.

    1. ” The only bright side is that this may well trigger an independence vote by the ‘west’ and finally Alberta and Saskatchewan and northern BC will be able to attain a level of freedom and economic independence that they have longed for since before confederation.”

      I’m hoping for the same. The inevitable economic failure should help speed things along.

  28. I voted in Carleton and the ballot was posted on the wall so you could find your candidate before wasting time in the booth. The ballot also included the party affiliation . PP was listed on the right side .

  29. Perfect set up.
    The divide is stark.

    The West can suck it up to even more rape and pillage,or they can stand on their own feet.
    The parasites are concentrated in the few urban centres.

    The State of Thuggery has the support of 52% of those who voted.
    This is a country in which the citizen has zero rights or freedoms that government cannot take away.

    Currently we spend more on debt interest than we do on the mythical “Free Healthcare”.
    Of the federal imperatives,such as defence,law and order..all we see is continued failure and deceit.
    There are perverse incentives upon all productive behaviour.
    Tax on everything.

    And what benefit does Canada provide its western citizens?
    Even more theft?
    We will act,when all our options are gone.

    These results,however short the term of the minority, tell of a divide beyond repair.
    Who would go into business with a partner,they know to be a kleptocratic,lying slob?
    What kind of business embraces bankruptcy?

    Forget Reform.
    Let us employ retribution,by removing the deadbeats hands from our wallet for good.

    1 Referendum(After full discussion,disclosure,,informed citizens are essential).
    2 Collect all tax provincially.
    3 Throw out the RCMP.
    4 Deputize all licensed gun owners,as Buffalo Militia..Use the Swiss Model for National defence.

    But we really need to start the heavy lifting of “Jaw,jaw jaw” A nation does not create itself,especially not out of resentment and broken promises.
    Canada is become a State of Thuggery.
    Can we create a “More perfect Union?”
    Or is this is what you would leave to our children?

    1. There is another divide, John. My kids 25-35 hate this government and have only contempt for Canada, all through their education they were told they are privileged white colonial oppressors. Canada=Shithole. My kids were raised in NS, oldest in California now, youngest to follow to the US after graduation.

  30. Canada is not recoverable. If you are white, Christian, straight, conservative, competent, hard-working, it is time to leave.

  32. Don’t get mad, get even.
    Lots of ‘mad’ with this loss, just like in 2015, 2019, and 2021.
    Not a lot of getting even after those losses. I suspect the same after this one too.

    PS: What happened to Maverick and Buffalo and all these other separatists?

    1. The Wildrose Independence Party disintegrated due to infighting. Maverick lost its party status because apparently certain documents weren’t filed.

      If separation is going to be a viable option, things will have to get real bad in order for people to wake up and take action.

  33. Fact is the CPC was a victim of their success
    It is clear an abundance of NDP voters chose Liberals over having PP as PM. While Trump did help , no matter what he did he would have been painted as the existential threat. Give the Liberals their due. The whole process from the Carney installation,to the abbreviation of the campaign and control of the media were beautifully manipulated. Unfortunately their focus on running the government will only be to meet their own ends.

    1. It always is. Liberals’ primary motivation is power, and they have gotten very, very good at obtaining it, maintaining it, asserting it. A softer version of 1984. So long as it’s a Liberal boot on Canadians’ throats, Canadians are mostly fine with it. Liberals of course are ecstatic because they can continue to loot the treasury, maintain the core institutions of the country in a manner supporting perpetual Liberal rule, and tell the citizenry that as bad as they may think they have it, Conservatives are always ready to make it worse for them.

      1. My biggest short term concerns are them bringing back Bill C63, as whatever number this time, the Online Harms Act, which was intended to shut down criticism of The Religion of Peace™ which is how a member of the former Justice Minister’s, Jama Mosque, described it to me with glee.

        Then comes them again increasing immigration and “temporary foreign workers” numbers. In the UK the “conservative” Rishi Sunak promised to do and once elected, did nothing. Then the Labour leader Keir Starmer in the UK election reminded people repeatedly reminded the electorate of Sunak’s lie and promised he would cut back immigration and stop the flood of illegals, but once elected instead increased immigration and provided more free housing incentives for the illegals encouraging increased numbers coming in.

        Then comes all the green crap designed to kill our oil and gas, mining, forestry industries and agriculture.

        1. I think Carnage may bring in the controlled speech policies of the UK Labor government.

          Far fetched? Didn’t the Dems try that in the US? If it wasn’t for Musk buying Twitter, the Dems might have won in 2024.

  34. Close. Surprised how blue BC and Ontario are, the nemesis again – Quebec. They needed BLOC voters to turn blue, didn’t happen.

    1. I grew up in NE B. C. which was largely conservative in thought as far back as I can remember.

  35. You know the NDP are going to play lap dog to the Liberals again. Just like last time.
    Poilievre loses his seat?
    What a filthy pig disgusting country Canada is.
    Northern Saskatchewan even went Liberal. WTF.
    Canada is not a serious nation.

    1. The boundaries changed for the northern Saskatchewan riding. The town of meadow lake, who usually vote conservative, was removed. Very few people live in the northern Saskatchewan riding and most of those living there rely on government benefits. It’s Saskatchewan’s PEI.

    2. Don’t let the map deceive you. There’s only one electoral riding in northern SK. Sparsely populated — mainly by first nations.

  36. This is our Vimy Ridge moment ! We can give up OR be like the Farm boys from Saskatchewan and Alberta and do something that no Ally could do ! Let’s take our VImy Ridge!

  38. Many thoughts on election

    I lived in N.S. 1963 – 1976 As I recall about 50% of election was on who could get the most out of Ottawa

    Media 1 Canada 0. Only partially

    Liberals in the 60’s started defficate financing

    The east has decided on the break up of Canada
    So I as a British Columbian sat GIVE it to them. & hard

  39. Western Canadians aren’t serious about freedom.

    How many have mortgages and do business and investment with Toronto banks. That employee hundreds of thousands of GTA voters. That vote liberal?

    Their Canada is not the same thing as your Canada. You feel good shipping Canadian at Superstore or no frills? Owned by Loblaws, a Toronto grocery chain owned by Weston’s that are awfully cozy with the Liberals. Same with Sobeys Safeway etc.

    “But it’s cheaper!” they all whine. They are also cucks and chronic prn addicts. Western Canadians have flushed Canada down the toilet with every penny saved. With every Canola seed.

    Think. Who are you sending your money to when you buy stuff and pay bills? The same GTA voters that will enslave you so they can have more abortions and you can’t shoot 2 gophers without reloading.

    There are western banks and grocers. Imagine for a second that all the people in Alberta moved their business to local business rather than paying tribute to Ontario.

    Or you can save a few bucks here and there to pay for your knee pads and lubricants.

    1. Regrettably, often the state of one’s bank account overrules political ideology. As Benjamin Franklin wrote in Poor Richard’s Almanack, “Hunger never saw bad bread.”

  40. If the Cons, Bloc and NDP got together they would have 174. Now that’s a natural coalition if I ever saw one!

  41. The Liberal/NDP free stuff army continues to squeeze more free stuff for parasites from the working West.

    Maybe Alberta, Sask, and rural BC need to just stop working. General strike. Stop empowering the parasite Left.

    1. MIght be an 11 on the dumb scale. Stop working to show them, as dumb as “counter tariffs”. Just separate, meantime take your portion of CPP out of Carney’s clutches.

  42. As I stated above, adding 100,000 snivel servants in the last 9 years of which most probably live in Ottawa, + add new workers to replace retirees, and that’s why PP is out.

    Public Servants vote Liberal.
    They’re no different than their Chicom brethren.

    Even if I could, I wouldn’t move to a foreign country.
    Unless it was the US.
    But I don’t consider it foreign even though they would consider me a foreigner.

    1. The only people in the world who distinguish a difference between Americans and Canadians are Canadians. Trump’s 51st state idea didn’t form in a vacuum, and the only time Europeans openly distinguish is when there is an agenda.. such as ‘orange man bad!!’..

  43. Poilievre can continue on as leader of the opposition, but he can’t sit in the H of C. It remains to be seen whether the party will demand a leadership review or find an MP in a safe seat to step aside and he can run in a by-election. Either way, with a leaderless NDP and an effectively leaderless CPC, the Libs will get to do whatever they want for several months at the least while the opposition sorts out their leadership woes.

    1. IIRC the party constitution mandates a leadership review following an election defeat.

      There are no good options open for him or the party by this result. Either he tries to stay on and is mercilessly mocked by the Liberals and their cronies for trying to hang on with no seat, waiting for a byelection that the Liberals will delay calling as long as they possibly can just to watch him squirm; or he steps down and the party has to go through a leadership race, with the Liberals licking their lips at the prospect of calling a snap election while the party is rudderless and/or painting a fresh new leader as the next “far right extremist” boogeyman for them to defeat.

      It was rank political incompetence to allow this outcome to come to pass, getting so focused on the national race that he & his team completely fumbled the ball in his own riding. I think it’s a mortal political wound and he can’t recover from it.

      Someone mentioned 1972 up thread, and then 1974 as what followed. I suspect that’s where we’re headed.

        1. So? Liberals are held to different and much lower standards than Conservatives.

          Hell, Liberals are practically held to NO standards in this farce of a country.

          1. I wouldn’t put it that way. You could say that Liberals are twice what Conservatives are.
            Conservatives have standards – Liberals have double standards.

    2. Mellissa Lantsman, Thornhill and CPC deputy leader, can certainly hold her own against any Liberal and would cause Carney considerable embarrassment.

    3. “…or find an MP in a safe seat to step aside and he can run in a by-election.”

      Don’t forget that it’s the PM that calls the by-election!
      How fast do you think that’ll take, knowing how fond Carney is of debating PP in the HoC, as seen during the debate? /sarc

      1. 6 months from when an MP resigns is the maximum the government can stall, by law, before having to call a by-election.

  44. It’s a sad situation, certainly, but one can relieve the pain somewhat by watching Jagfart’s farewell speech over and over again. The NDP will stumble back, they always do, but they won’t have much influence until after the next election at the earliest. In the meantime, Carney has to preside over our declining country using all the caution he can muster, because he’s a high wire artist working without a net. Pull up a chair folks, ( you too DJT), it just might get interesting.

    1. Carney has to……………really missed the plot there bud. You can’t escape the paradigm of doing good for Canada. He will be operating in what is (he thinks) good for the globe (read globalist elites).

    2. Carney doesn’t give a fart. His money is safe and it will probably increase while he is in office. Canada, not so much.

    3. Jagderp doesnt care about the NDP or Canada… he is a globalist… the NDP will still be Liberals working side by side with Carney… nothing has changed… Liberal/NDP/Bloc Government… again.
      Jagderp will be rewarded not just with the thieving “Gold PLated Pension” program taxpayers are forced to reward him, but he will also be rewarded by his Liberal masters with some kind of special appointment.

      Jagderp is a dishonest imbecile, but he is also a loyal Liberal and a hardcore Globalist… just like Carney… he took down the NDP to keep the Liberals in power and he will be rewarded ( pay-off ) for those efforts.

      1. That’ll all be confirmed when Carney appoints the jughead to a plum government assignment.

        (note that I said “WHEN,” not “IF.”)

  45. People don’t understand Carney the uber globalist. He said “ the old relationship with the US is over.” That is the cope he offers Canada for the truth: “ … and the new relationship with China begins! “ China will support The Loonie, and provide aid for infrastructure ( docks to load Canadian exports, etc. ) Canada will be a medium income Chinese vassal. Enjoy those Chinese police stations!

    1. Campaign rhetoric aside, Trump would never allow China that much foothold in North America (5-eyes territory). I don’t think Trump would go full ‘Putin” (ala Ukraine), but Trump has other options at his disposal, and I don’t think Carney will push him far enough to find out. Bottom line, Trump got what he wants, and that was Carney to hammer on until he breaks, so now the gloves can come off and Trump will get dirty. Trump is in a position to make an example of the Carney and his Libs, and they will own the mess it makes, all without strangling a nascent ‘MCGA’ movement in the crib. Now, whether PP was the man to lead a new MCGA movement is another matter entirely..

  46. PP’s success was in driving the Bong from office. Much is made of the 25 point lead but it was meaningless as there was no election. Plus it was not based on the popularity of PP it reflected the revulsion of trudeau even by liberals.

    The CPC is more popular than PP himself. They gained in both seat count and popular vote.

    Once Trump started in on the 51st State stuff he set the table for Carnival’s win. He became Carnival’s target not PP. A smart liberal move.

    1. If only it were possible to review all the posts I have made over the past 2 to 3 years. You’ll all think of me as some kind of clairvoyant.

      Sorry to toot my own horn here, but it had to be said. So often times I’ve been ridiculed around here for some of the things I have said.

      Particularly, being accused of being a “liberal bot.” (Still waiting for that apology, Eric.)

  47. A typically Canadian result: the most boring outcome with just enough hope to make you think things might work out ok. Last night it looked like we might get a delightfully messy outcome with Libs + NDP + Green short of a majority and the Bloc holding the balance of power. But instead we’ve got the Libs with a bare minority that the NDP will support for dear life. The minority makes you think that maybe at some point things will get so bad, the opposition will bring down Carney, but that will never happen. Instead, Carney will carry on pretending to be moderate until he sees an opening to call a snap election to get a majority. See Trudeau Sr. after the 1974 election. Canadians will fall for it, and then he’ll proceed to stab everyone in the back for the benefit of his paymasters.

    1. Don’t discount the possibility of a handful of NDP MPs crossing the floor. Even if they don’t get a cabinet seat, they would still get a much larger budget than a party without official status and a voice, however muted, in a governing caucus. It would only take 4 and the Libs have a majority.

  48. Well, I certainly blew that call…I’d be the guy in the Titanic’s crow’s nest yelling down to the Captain “it’s just a scratch!”.
    It’s official – This country is rock hard stupid

  49. THERE IS NOTHING LEFT TO SAY …. CANADIAN VOTERS SAID IT ALL ….

    NOW LET THE WEEPING BEGIN.

  50. Nothing changed. On a vote of confidence, the NDP will haul the water, if necessary. I don’t see the block being very eager.

    1. I think the Liberals will want a quick election. If Carney gets any kind of decent win in early negotiations with Trump I expect he will quickly go to the polls to secure his majority.

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