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And in other news:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13170999/Terrifying-moment-wheel-falls-United-airplane-taking-San-Francisco-airport-crushes-cars-parked-below.html
More bad news for Boeing, this time a 777
“OH FUDGE!!” except the pilot didn’t say ‘fudge’.
Loose wheel nuts aren’t on Boeing. That is routine maintenance. That is on United.
Usually only one big nut, not like a car with multiple studs/nuts.
For the wheel to come off, the bearings inside would have to bypass the retention nut, if present. There are various forms of nut retention, from lock wire, to cotter pins, to a seperate locking bolt assembly.
If the nut stays on, the wheel can still come off if the bearings fail catastrophically, usu from lack of lubrication or incorrect torque applied. There is usually a seating torque, then backed off and a running torque applied, just like a trailer wheel, except the hub is usually part of the wheel itself and the brakes are a multi segmented and layered ‘basket’, unlike most cars where the disc brake and caliper/bracket retains the wheel.
I’ve ran into cases where just the seating torque was applied and not backed off and retorqued. Grease was melted off and bearings were blued from the heat. This is usually how the wheel comes of. Due dilligence to procedure is critical, on anything aviation related. The procedures are there, they’ve been tried and tested, follow them. Most accidents occur because of not following procedures, as we have seen..
Source: Aircraft mechanic with 30 yrs experience.
Zon
Nailed it. The wheels on a plane are noting like your car.
Someone goofed.
30+ years Pilot fixed & rotor
Agree with all of it. I’ve also seen where the key washer under the wheel nut was not transferred to the new wheel so the nut reached the end of the threads before the bearing was seated.
There can be no shortcuts working on planes, you have to follow the manual exactly.
Retired AME (Aircraft Maintenance Engineer).
Of course this doesn’t mean that the general public won’t think it’s Boeing’s fault.
That’s funny, I just flew from Houston to Calgary on a United 737 Max 8. Maybe it flew back this morning…
Scar – you are aligned with what the Guardian reported on this. Like a stopped clock, the Guardian is right twice a day.
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2024/mar/08/boeing-plane-off-runway-houston-texas
I believe in the industry that is referred to as an “oopsie doodles”. The terminology might explain the state of the industry.
You picked a fine time to leave me, loose wheel.
RIP Kenny Rogers
You picked a fine time to leave me, loose wheel.
{slow golf clap}
Foobert – great dad joke!!
At what point do we say this isn’t incompetence? NTSB has come forward and said the deliberate detonation of derailed tanker cars in East Palestine was completely unnecessary.
I’ll take Diversity, Equity and Inclusion for 500.
Those dancing women down at the Renton Assembly facility? Yeah, well … their male supervisor said something “mean” to them … so they got back at him the way women do … passively and aggressively. They intentionally left out some bolts (passive) … so he would lose his job (aggressive). That’ll show him! That awful white male! Who does he think he is !?
You go girls !
SmallDeadAnimals is usually better than this, Boeing has its problems but the recent couple of incidents are NOT their fault. The report states; “a Boeing 737 MAX 8 carrying 160 passengers and six crew members, skidded off the taxiway and into a grassy area after landing at George Bush Intercontinental Airport in Houston. ”
The landing gear collapse occurred after the wheels left the taxiway, so the error is with Uniteds pilot, just as the wheel falling off the B777 United jet is also United’s problem.
For those concerned with the quality of air safety (and you should be) perhaps look to Buttigiegs outfit and Uniteds CEI hires.
My advice to you? SELL that Boeing sock that made you so much $$ post-pandemic. SELL SELL SELL
Chuckle, my advice to you is to avoid speculating on peoples motivation. Never owned Boeing stock, have no commercial interest in the company.
Boeing has earned a well-desrved reputation for shoddy management recently, but that is no reason to apportion blame where it does not belong. The two recent issues reside squarely on United’s shoulders, and untimately with a mismanaged FAA. (Biden and Buttigieg)
See Al in Ottawa’s comment
I do own Boeing stock and sorry to say the company has gone full-blown DEI, and they are up front about it. It’s a sad thing to see. Get back to building planes.
….aka DMV America.
This one is on the captain, the nosewheel steering tiller is on his side so he does all the taxiing. The plane could have turned off the runway sooner but asked permission to taxi to the last taxiway but the tower asked them to be quick. https://onemileatatime.com/news/united-boeing-737-max-gear-collapse/
My guess is the gear would have been supporting at least 60,000lbs so once it rolled off the concrete taxiway the two wheels would have sank right into the ground. A former 727 flight engineer told me that Boeing designs the gear to tear away from the rear spar before the fuel tank is broken open.
somewhat on the subject at hand here.
I was just taking an on-line Angus Reid survey about race relations and “equal” opportunities. Three quarters of the way through when I said whites were being discriminated against, it said I didn’t qualify for the survey. DIE is pushed by the entire corrupt system.
Just freaking great. Boeing has admitted they have NO paper work to back up the removal or reinstall of the door plug.
People need to be fired and it should start with the CEO