Ban All The Things!

Tom Slater;

At the Conservative Party conference last year, Sunak decided that making England ‘smoke-free’ would be his chapter in history. So he announced Britain’s biggest experiment in prohibition for generations: a phased-in ban on tobacco products that will mean today’s 15-year-olds will never legally be able to buy cigarettes.

Now Sunak is going after disposable vapes, too. This is despite the fact that vapes are at least 95 per cent safer than cigarettes and currently help between 50,000 and 70,000 people in England quit cigarettes each year, giving ex-smokers the pleasure of puffing without the considerable health risks. We can’t be having that, it seems.

19 Replies to “Ban All The Things!”

  1. It can’t be said enough, an elected government’s only two priorities are protect the people that elected it and preserve the society that the people have created, PROTECT & PRESERVE!
    When these elected politicians and their masters, the bureaucrats that advise them, try to ‘fundamentally change’ the society that elected them by instituting laws and legislation that the electors had no input or voice in, that is the epitome of tyrany and fascism. I did not vote for an immigration policy that is changing the society that I helped build. I did not vote for a foreign policy that gives my tax money away to countries that oppose my fundamental beliefs. I did not vote for a policy that cannot secure the national border. I did not vote for a policy that denies me the right to self defence. I sure as hell did not vote for a policy that allows petty bureaucrats, politicians, and their handlers to dictate how I can spend my money or how I lead my life.

  2. Ah, vapes.

    Anyone else remember when just before the Wu Flu was unleashed, there was apparently a yuge uptick in vaping deaths amongst the ‘youts?

    I ‘member…

    1. Vaping will turn out to be just as bad smoking.

      I know several vapers who have lungs all clogged up with vegetable glycerin and artificial mango flavoring.

      Inhaling anything besides clean fresh air is bad for you.

      1. You don’t have to tell me, lifelong non-smoker, and while I tried a few puffs when pot was legalized, I realized how much I hated smoking anything.

        That, and my mom died of COPD, and my FIL died of lung cancer (also a lifelong non-smoker, but those steel refineries weren’t renowned for their safety back in the day).

  3. This won’t matter much. Britain now changes PMs faster than an infant has diaper changes. Sunak has already exceeded his life expectancy. His rivals are already measuring his political coffin.

  4. I agree with Antenor’s political stance. Even if you are anti-smoking, there is another reason to seperate out smoking cigarettes from vaping. I’m not a big fan of cigarettes but nicotine by itself, although highly addictive, has therapeutic value. This is, of course, a controversial area of science and medicine since people associate vaping with cigarette smoking.

    “There’s a cheap, common, and mostly safe drug, in daily use for centuries by hundreds of millions of people, that only lately has been investigated for its therapeutic potential for a long list of common ills. The list includes Alzheimer disease, Parkinson disease, depression and anxiety, schizophrenia, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), and even pain and obesity. Why has interest in this potential cure-all been slow to develop? One reason: in its current forms the drug offers pharmaceutical companies no possibility of substantial profit. Another, perhaps more important: the drug is reviled as the world’s most addictive. The drug, of course, is nicotine.”

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC526783/

    1. They dont add Nicotine to vapes for therapeutic value, they add it because its addictive.

      Personally I find a vape, cigarette, and weed to be equally annoying ,particularly if blown into my face and these days the people who blow vapes are by far the most abundant.

      Pretty sure they are going after the end user, because its a lot easier then tracking down 100’s of vape importers, finding out there real list of ingredents, making sure they dont change there ingredients and figuring out the future medical issues that may be caused. OK if x is carcinogenic, how dangerous is 0.0001 grams when inhaled.

  5. Heh, an unelected “PM” wants to leave a “legacy.”

    That being said, Canadians would swallow this, hook line and sinker, it just may take a generation, just like they swallowed MADD drinking and driving policies hook, line and sinker.

  6. Might as well transition everyone over to pot – legal government taxed of course.

  7. God bless the NATIVES and their cultural enrichment that is tobacco.. They make BANK off that scht and anybody thinking of shutting down that billion dollar road blocking entitlement knows nothing of the black market..

    Face the facts.. The UK is a Muslim Caliphate and they don’t smoke.. Do with that what you will..

  8. “You shall obey”
    “Respect muh authority”..
    “I know better than you,how you shall live your life and manage your affairs”.
    Small wonder these same cretins do not understand the Trump Vote.
    When you consider the accomplishments and lives of, those who would rule over us,you are looking at very thin gruel and bad choices…yet they believe themselves to be amongst the smartest people on this planet..
    Ignorance and arrogance is a lethal combination.
    And I am coming to believe in “A Tax on all do-gooders”.
    Billyclub in hand.
    Yes. They are this stupid.
    Only kinetic communication will get through to them.

  9. Conservatives in power of leviathan states and not engaged in demolishing it are leviathan “managers” and not necessarily any better at it than progressives, likely worse because the bureaucracy is possibly undermining them from within. Leviathan managers feel compelled to add to the mountains of regulations and statutes as they are already compromised by tolerating the 90% of scope of government that they “manage” that is illegitimate. Doing something, anything, is a substitute for good governance. Activities inspired by the nanny state are always popular as they don’t usually cost government much and allow for virtue signaling at election time. Leviathan managers are pleased when they get co operation in parliament and what better way than enact their opposition’s legislation. Eventually the Conservative leviathan manager’s conservative base stays home at election time and they turn over their warmed seats to the progressives, until the next time.

  10. I hate cigarettes. I’ve always hated them and the smoke filled bars that my friends loved so much.
    Having said that, I despise the anti smoking laws even more. I now consider the initial moves against smoking, which I first experienced in 1986, as the “gateway drug” to all the behavior controlling laws that have followed.
    I would prefer to live in that time again.

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