Mr. Murray got one thing wrong. Everyone in Western countries needs to watch the Hamas videos. Especially young people, who should be aware of what they are supporting.
well, the young idiots supporting HAMAS atrocities are the same ones back in the 60/70s that ignored the atrocities committed by HoChiMinh’s Viet Minh ….
If you keep your youth dumb and are told in school every who doesn’t look or agree with you are monsters. It’s easy to convince them of doing such thing. Like the folks who support Hamas.
“well, the young idiots supporting HAMAS atrocities are the same ones back in the 60/70s that ignored the atrocities committed by HoChiMinh’s Viet Minh ….”
Same ones that wear Che Guevara t-shorts…
Rachel Notley has a Che Geuvera wristwatch…..or maybe it’s Mickey Mouse who has a Rachel Notley watch, I can’t remember.
It would be tragic, but fitting for some of these liberal cultural relativists to watch their own loved ones butchered in front of them to see if they are even capable of cognition, or are simply too stupid to understand that evil exists.
Godwin’s Law notwithstanding, in this case, Douglas Murray wins the argument. HANDS DOWN!
fc
Here’s dustoff’s quote
“If you keep your youth dumb and are told in school every who doesn’t look or agree with you are monsters.”
That’s why the RCC tried to control the use of the printing press, when it was first invented. And by some of your BS posts, they were very successful in keep their constituents STUPID!
666
Hey Satan, bad news, I read the book and you lose. Sucks for you, but those are the breaks.
Quite right, fc. And ignore Satan. It’s already advertised itself as being a monster.
Just one more that I scroll right on past without reading and certainly without responding.
I feel it’s good to let some get some support rather than letting the last word go to scum like 666.
People paying attention knew they gleefully filmed themselves committing the worst atrocities imaginable within days of the attack, so nothing new here. I had suggested every elected western leader should be forced to watch the images. Maybe we should go full A Clockwork Orange on all college students as well. Except, I don’t think there will be a need for drug induced nausea. Eric Weinstein has recently said our liberal value system is not equipped to properly respond to this.
Good for Murray.
I don’t give a s*** about Palestinian children, their parents or their grandparents.
Israel needs to make the place uninhabitable.
Take a cue from history and, once its emptied of them, salt the f***ing place.
How about uninhabited? Quicker.
Illiberal societies thrive on a dearth of critical thinking skills. Hamas are mining Palestinian victimhood for the benefit of Western Eloi and their elected Jacobins and their sponsor’s submissive Muslims. Only truly devout Muslims and psychopaths practice barbarism with such zealous fervor.
Where is Mark Steyn?
Just reading his book “After America.”
I am sadly suspicious that he is unwell and that might explain why we haven’t heard from him.
Murray has taken his place on world commentary, and doing well.
He’s had 3 heart attacks and is bound to a wheel chair. He had to fly back to North America and then to DC to attend his defamation trial against Michael Mann. Then the rial got postponed because the judge was ill. The same judge who required Steyn to attend in person against doctor’s orders. To keep abreast of all things Steyn, go to steynonline.com.
Truly sad. It will be Mark predominating my thoughts tomorrow at 11:00.
Just a few points to make here:
1. The Nazis tried to cover up the atrocities after they figured out they were going to lose. They were not moral, they were trying to escape punishment.
2. Hamas has been in power for almost 17 years. That means almost half the population of Gaza has been indoctrinated by Hamas for all of their lives. Add in the adult true believers and it’s likely over 75% of the population favours a genocidal policy concerning Israel.
3. There was no cease fire with the Nazis. It was total defeat and capitulation. The only way to prevent the resurgence of Nazism was the complete abolition, humiliation, and demonization of their ideology. The same will likely be needed for Hamas if the Gazans are going to survive as a people.
….”salt the f***ing place “.
I’m not sure that’s necessary, isn’t the entire strip just one big concrete city?
Where are the farms, or gardens, or orchards?
Where are the industries or factories?
What do people do other than live off the handouts from the rest of the world?
What benefits to the rest of the planet are served by that strip?
Jews in America raised over $15 Million USD to buy the greenhouses in Gaza that were gifted to the people of Gaza… less than one year later they were all totally destroyed…
there is no “industry” to speak of in gaza, unless you count Rocket and Bomb Making
I don’t know anything about the industries that make up the Palestinian economy, but Ahab, who sells Israeli and American flags at The Dirty Infidel Flag Emporium is making bank! Hardly a day goes by when they’re not burning these in the street. I wonder if he throws in the matches and lighter fluid for free with every purchase.
Look at the Gaza Strip on google earth or equivalent. There’s a lot of buildings, but a surprising amount of farmland and olive groves.
“Where are the farms, or gardens, or orchards?”
The ‘Palestinians’ probably destroyed them all along with the many greenhouses they inherited when Israel pulled out of Gaza.
Worse than the Nazis and damn proud of it! Now there’s a claim to fame. We should remember that Hitler took courage from the Turks’ brutal treatment and attempted genocide of Armenian Christians, thinking no one cared about or tried to defend them, who’s going to care about the Jews.
Douglas Murray perfectly articulated what many people are privately thinking about Hamas and Palestinians. A recent poll had 67% of Palestinians favouring Hamas behavior.
BTW , all those screaming genocide should review some history of the British fire bombing Dresden during WW2 (death toll 200,00 – 500,00) or the Americans fire bombing Tokyo during WW2 (death toll ~100,000). Both of these raids were aimed primarily at civilians not military complexes.
If you start a war you had best be prepared to win , otherwise things can go very badly for you.
“LeMay was legendary for being monosyllabic,” remembered McNamara. “I never heard him use more than two words in sequence. It was basically yes, no, yup. But this time, LeMay looked at the pilot who had shouted at him and, uncharacteristically, tried to reason with him, ‘Why are we here?’ LeMay asked, almost pleading, not just to the pilot, but to everyone else sitting in the large, silent room. ‘Why are we here? Yes, you lost your wingman and it hurts me as much as it does you. I was the one who sent him there. And I’ve been there. I know what this is. But we lost one wingman and we destroyed Tokyo.’”
Warren Kozak
The Life and Wars of Curtis Lemay
Dresden death toll was approximately 25,000. This was confirmed by Dresden city council in 2010.
The 200,000 casualties figure was published by Germany in March 1945.
I believe it was Hemmingway who said,
“If you find yourself in a fair fight – your tactics suck.”
Douglas Murray is very articulate and clear.
Look up his Munk debate performance along with Matt Taibbi. He managed to turn around a significant portion of a downtown Toronto commie audience.
The Allies force marched German townspeople through the neighbouring concentration camps to show them the utter horror and evil that they closed their eyes to, if not deliberately, then in totally willful ignorance. So while we are not responsible for the sins of our ancestors, like people that vote for HAMAS knowing that which they did and do, holding them responsible is not only right but a moral obligation
I stand with Israel!
I cannot say I don’t care about the Palestinian children and non combatants because I do. However, they overwhelmingly support Hamas, and the sick evil attacks on the Jewish people. They are indoctrinated from early childhood to hate the Jewish people, so what can we expect from them when they grow to adulthood?
The males become Hamas fighters, and the females breed more Hamas fighters. It will never end if this continues. I therefore sadly agree with the majority in this thread. Gaza, Hamas, and even Hezbollah needs to be eradicated. The mullah’s and government of Iran need to be placed in check as well. It’s simply a matter of survival, civilized people must remove and extinguish the threats permanently!
Very good conversation – recommended!
I agree
Oh. My. God. A Truth.
Mr. Murray got one thing wrong. Everyone in Western countries needs to watch the Hamas videos. Especially young people, who should be aware of what they are supporting.
well, the young idiots supporting HAMAS atrocities are the same ones back in the 60/70s that ignored the atrocities committed by HoChiMinh’s Viet Minh ….
If you keep your youth dumb and are told in school every who doesn’t look or agree with you are monsters. It’s easy to convince them of doing such thing. Like the folks who support Hamas.
“well, the young idiots supporting HAMAS atrocities are the same ones back in the 60/70s that ignored the atrocities committed by HoChiMinh’s Viet Minh ….”
Same ones that wear Che Guevara t-shorts…
Rachel Notley has a Che Geuvera wristwatch…..or maybe it’s Mickey Mouse who has a Rachel Notley watch, I can’t remember.
It would be tragic, but fitting for some of these liberal cultural relativists to watch their own loved ones butchered in front of them to see if they are even capable of cognition, or are simply too stupid to understand that evil exists.
Godwin’s Law notwithstanding, in this case, Douglas Murray wins the argument. HANDS DOWN!
fc
Here’s dustoff’s quote
“If you keep your youth dumb and are told in school every who doesn’t look or agree with you are monsters.”
That’s why the RCC tried to control the use of the printing press, when it was first invented. And by some of your BS posts, they were very successful in keep their constituents STUPID!
666
Hey Satan, bad news, I read the book and you lose. Sucks for you, but those are the breaks.
Quite right, fc. And ignore Satan. It’s already advertised itself as being a monster.
Just one more that I scroll right on past without reading and certainly without responding.
I feel it’s good to let some get some support rather than letting the last word go to scum like 666.
People paying attention knew they gleefully filmed themselves committing the worst atrocities imaginable within days of the attack, so nothing new here. I had suggested every elected western leader should be forced to watch the images. Maybe we should go full A Clockwork Orange on all college students as well. Except, I don’t think there will be a need for drug induced nausea. Eric Weinstein has recently said our liberal value system is not equipped to properly respond to this.
Good for Murray.
I don’t give a s*** about Palestinian children, their parents or their grandparents.
Israel needs to make the place uninhabitable.
Take a cue from history and, once its emptied of them, salt the f***ing place.
How about uninhabited? Quicker.
Illiberal societies thrive on a dearth of critical thinking skills. Hamas are mining Palestinian victimhood for the benefit of Western Eloi and their elected Jacobins and their sponsor’s submissive Muslims. Only truly devout Muslims and psychopaths practice barbarism with such zealous fervor.
Where is Mark Steyn?
Just reading his book “After America.”
I am sadly suspicious that he is unwell and that might explain why we haven’t heard from him.
Murray has taken his place on world commentary, and doing well.
He’s had 3 heart attacks and is bound to a wheel chair. He had to fly back to North America and then to DC to attend his defamation trial against Michael Mann. Then the rial got postponed because the judge was ill. The same judge who required Steyn to attend in person against doctor’s orders. To keep abreast of all things Steyn, go to steynonline.com.
Truly sad. It will be Mark predominating my thoughts tomorrow at 11:00.
Just a few points to make here:
1. The Nazis tried to cover up the atrocities after they figured out they were going to lose. They were not moral, they were trying to escape punishment.
2. Hamas has been in power for almost 17 years. That means almost half the population of Gaza has been indoctrinated by Hamas for all of their lives. Add in the adult true believers and it’s likely over 75% of the population favours a genocidal policy concerning Israel.
3. There was no cease fire with the Nazis. It was total defeat and capitulation. The only way to prevent the resurgence of Nazism was the complete abolition, humiliation, and demonization of their ideology. The same will likely be needed for Hamas if the Gazans are going to survive as a people.
….”salt the f***ing place “.
I’m not sure that’s necessary, isn’t the entire strip just one big concrete city?
Where are the farms, or gardens, or orchards?
Where are the industries or factories?
What do people do other than live off the handouts from the rest of the world?
What benefits to the rest of the planet are served by that strip?
Jews in America raised over $15 Million USD to buy the greenhouses in Gaza that were gifted to the people of Gaza… less than one year later they were all totally destroyed…
there is no “industry” to speak of in gaza, unless you count Rocket and Bomb Making
I don’t know anything about the industries that make up the Palestinian economy, but Ahab, who sells Israeli and American flags at The Dirty Infidel Flag Emporium is making bank! Hardly a day goes by when they’re not burning these in the street. I wonder if he throws in the matches and lighter fluid for free with every purchase.
Look at the Gaza Strip on google earth or equivalent. There’s a lot of buildings, but a surprising amount of farmland and olive groves.
“Where are the farms, or gardens, or orchards?”
The ‘Palestinians’ probably destroyed them all along with the many greenhouses they inherited when Israel pulled out of Gaza.
Worse than the Nazis and damn proud of it! Now there’s a claim to fame. We should remember that Hitler took courage from the Turks’ brutal treatment and attempted genocide of Armenian Christians, thinking no one cared about or tried to defend them, who’s going to care about the Jews.
Douglas Murray perfectly articulated what many people are privately thinking about Hamas and Palestinians. A recent poll had 67% of Palestinians favouring Hamas behavior.
BTW , all those screaming genocide should review some history of the British fire bombing Dresden during WW2 (death toll 200,00 – 500,00) or the Americans fire bombing Tokyo during WW2 (death toll ~100,000). Both of these raids were aimed primarily at civilians not military complexes.
If you start a war you had best be prepared to win , otherwise things can go very badly for you.
“LeMay was legendary for being monosyllabic,” remembered McNamara. “I never heard him use more than two words in sequence. It was basically yes, no, yup. But this time, LeMay looked at the pilot who had shouted at him and, uncharacteristically, tried to reason with him, ‘Why are we here?’ LeMay asked, almost pleading, not just to the pilot, but to everyone else sitting in the large, silent room. ‘Why are we here? Yes, you lost your wingman and it hurts me as much as it does you. I was the one who sent him there. And I’ve been there. I know what this is. But we lost one wingman and we destroyed Tokyo.’”
Warren Kozak
The Life and Wars of Curtis Lemay
Dresden death toll was approximately 25,000. This was confirmed by Dresden city council in 2010.
The 200,000 casualties figure was published by Germany in March 1945.
I believe it was Hemmingway who said,
“If you find yourself in a fair fight – your tactics suck.”
Douglas Murray is very articulate and clear.
Look up his Munk debate performance along with Matt Taibbi. He managed to turn around a significant portion of a downtown Toronto commie audience.
https://youtu.be/3vkgROIINEs
That was classic!
I have watched twice now!
The Allies force marched German townspeople through the neighbouring concentration camps to show them the utter horror and evil that they closed their eyes to, if not deliberately, then in totally willful ignorance. So while we are not responsible for the sins of our ancestors, like people that vote for HAMAS knowing that which they did and do, holding them responsible is not only right but a moral obligation
I stand with Israel!
I cannot say I don’t care about the Palestinian children and non combatants because I do. However, they overwhelmingly support Hamas, and the sick evil attacks on the Jewish people. They are indoctrinated from early childhood to hate the Jewish people, so what can we expect from them when they grow to adulthood?
The males become Hamas fighters, and the females breed more Hamas fighters. It will never end if this continues. I therefore sadly agree with the majority in this thread. Gaza, Hamas, and even Hezbollah needs to be eradicated. The mullah’s and government of Iran need to be placed in check as well. It’s simply a matter of survival, civilized people must remove and extinguish the threats permanently!