Ban All The Things!

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Montreal will ban gas-powered systems in new construction starting next fall, with some notable exceptions.

The new regulation, adopted by the city’s executive committee this morning, will apply to new, small buildings — up to three storeys and 600 square metres in area — as of Oct. 1, 2024, and larger buildings starting six months later.

Examples of soon-to-be prohibited systems include residential gas-powered stoves, indoor gas fireplaces, hot water heaters and furnaces that emit greenhouse gases and barbecues and pool or spa heaters that draw from gas lines.

The city says exceptions include emergency generators, commercial stoves in restaurants, gas-powered barbecues with removable tanks and temporary heating devices used during construction work.

Industrial buildings are also exempt, as are combustion heaters in larger buildings that draw only from renewable sources of gas.

36 Replies to “Ban All The Things!”

  1. People should demand the numbers of the net effect on the world climate situation, I’m guessing somewhere between less than zero and Trudeau’s IQ.

      1. I’m with ya on that…

        Seems Quebec loves their Stephan Guilbeault Environmental Terrorist & arsonist supporter.

        The list for those that should be blindfolded & up against a concrete wall grows daily…

  2. They are doing this to destroy the oil and gas producing provinces in Canada. Climate change, global warming is BS, nothing more, nothing less. They need to disconnect all forms of energy from Parliament Hill and prevent any MPs and bureaucrats from owning or operating any vehicles, riding in any vehicles and live in houses without heating or lighting. Only by doing this will the set the proper example and maybe remove their personal carbon footprint from the equation.

    1. This comment has a gem in it. Imagine if energy policy were run by an entirely independent entity similar to how BoC manages the currency – something that politicians have no control over.

      Granted, BoC ain’t great at what it does, but being structurally separate from government has enormous benefits.

      RNrn

      1. I would beg to differ regarding the separation between the government and the BOC. It may be separate on paper, but the level of incest between the BOC and the ruling party coalition is staggering. A true economist, for example, would not have agreed to buy back outstanding Canadian bond issues when Trudeau went down the path of “I will borrow money so you don’t have to” because he would have recognized the inflationary cycle at its inception. Most of our current economic woes stem from that ill conceived and inherently false statement because when the government borrows money, WE are borrowing money. Increasing the currency in circulation during an economic downturn due to ill advised lockdowns increases the number of dollars chasing the same goods leading to devaluation of the currency, increasing the price of goods and services. Most of the increase in the national debt is hiding on the balance sheet of the BOC which is not required by law to report its current state to the public.

        This was not done at arms length but merely for plausible deniability.

        1. Agree absolutely, I’m just saying that conceptually it would be preferable, and that both BoC and “EnergyOfCanada” perform independently as designed.

          RNrn

  3. When the grid crashes, there will be a lot of freezing to death. This is the perfect companion legislation to MAID.

    1. Until the green police ban replacement appliances and then require retro fits.

      First they came for the new contraction. I did not speak out because I already had a home.
      Then they came for replacement appliances. I did not complain because my appliances were new.
      When they demanded retro fits there was no one left to speak for me.

  4. So the place that has had two massive ice storms that knocked out electrical power for weeks in the middle of winter in one of the coldest cities on the planet will now rely entirely on electrical power for heating.

    Great idea.

    1. One severe cold snap and Canadian politicians will rediscover why the Bourbons were guillotined.

  5. A tour through the city’s executive committee’s houses may prove a tad embarrassing, me thinks.

  6. “The city says exceptions include emergency generators”

    Rich smart people will not freeze in the dark.

    1. … and when electricity is too expensive (including those peak use times), flip the switch and burn the gas

  7. And they banned wood burning several years ago.
    It’s like planting mines and, having finished, realizing that you’re now surrounded by your handiwork.
    Somebody call up some Indians to do a Mother of All Freezing Rain Dances.

  8. I bet the folks making these decisions already have their fossil fuel goodies safely grandfathered.

    O’ Canada.

    We ban stoves……but not terrorists or their supporters.

  9. My gas bill is usually about $26 for the gas stove and fireplace, a bit higher in the early fall/late spring when I use the fireplace for heat.

    Electricity bills, on the other hand, are outrageous, even if thermostats in less used rooms are set on low and lights are turned off when one leaves a room.

    Vancouver homes built after 1995 invariably have electric baseboard heating and electric water heaters.

    Cooking on an electric stove is so annoying, as commercial chefs know very well. Many recipes call for initial high temperatures; then slowing quickly to simmer. BC wokey folks are planning to copy Montreal.

  10. Good, screw ’em! Shut off all exports of oil and gas to that province. No propane, Nat gas, gasoline or diesel.
    They can live off all the hydro capacity they have. Let them beg the Saudi’s or the USA when they have need.
    Also, since they don’t have need of the west’s resources, CUT OFF ALL EQUALIZATION from the west. Make them GIVE BACK as a ‘have’ province!
    All provinces should be able to make do with what they have on hand. You have hydro, great, but don’t bemoan the provinces that don’t, but do have coal or other fuels and seek to use them efficiently.
    This forced use of only one type of energy lacks redundancy. Get rid of a bunch of politicians and nobody will notice. Get rid of gas, gasoline, propane and wood and people will notice..

    I suggest biomass burners fed off of politicians, there’s a plentiful supply.. One term and it’s off to do the greatest good for your constituents!

    1. John; Please remember not ALL eastern bastards buy into this BS. I think it will be hard to separate the Good eastern bastards from the Bad and Stupid ones. Steve O

      1. When a civilization is punished for it’s collective sins, ALL suffer, the good and the bad people together.

    2. I was born in New Brunswick, spent the first half of my life in Saskatchewan, and then left because of employment for Ontario where I now reside. So which category do I fit into as I still try to live by Saskatchewan values of thrift and logic?

      Not all of us in the East espouse Liberal/NDP coalition values. I have never ever voted Liberal at any level and I will never do so.

  11. I wonder what the executice committee do in their homes.

    And …

    Since when do government official, elected or not, rule us serfs , we who pay their wages, by dictat.

  12. They stuck homeowners, but not the others, because they think stupid homeowners will just sit there and take it.

  13. Excellent.

    Finally, Eastern Canadian bastards are self-inserting themselves into freezing darkness.

    Let evolution begin!

  14. A handful of Canadian cities signed on to C40 Cities Climate Leadership Group. Montreal appears to be one of those cities. If my city was on the list, I’d consider moving. Banning natural gas heating and London’s ULEZ vehicle taxes are just the start of their warped vision of the future.

    https://www.c40.org/cities/

    In the end, I think that Alberta and Saskatchewan will be the only provinces with affordable, reliable winter heating. Both provinces have their own natural gas supply and governments who aren’t interested in following either federal government or global edicts. In provinces where winter temps can reach as low as -40C/F, you can’t go along with stupid, misanthropic green policies that would result in death.

  15. It would be nice if the province reminded the cities, you do not have this power, but it will never happen in either quebec, ontario or BC

  16. Will be interesting to see what happens to Montreal when the next solar storm hits. With any luck it will be in January.

  17. The Churchill Falls contract runs to 2041, hopefully someone in Newfoundland has made arrangements by then to lay cable under the straight from Labrador to NFLD and then to N.S. and then to the USA so as to never again be beholden to the type of one sided contract which the SCOC has no problem with.

    Quebec can then pay “world price” for their electricity, perhaps even buying this power from the USA.

    No, I don’t care what Quebec does after 2041, nor what happens to them in winter, nor “in the dark”.

    https://montrealgazette.com/news/quebec/n-l-premier-to-legault-on-more-tapping-into-hydro-power-show-us-the-money

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