We Don’t Need No Flaming Sparky Cars

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Via The Truth About Cars;

A Mercedes store operator said he has a more than six-month supply of EVs compared with about a 50-day supply of gasoline-powered vehicles.

“The EVs are coming whether or not you asked for them or earned them,” he said. “There is too much of a price premium — especially at the top end of the EQ lineup — and almost no [lease] support.”

The executive said the EVs lack the “lust factor” of Mercedes’ gasoline-powered flagship models, such as the S-Class sedan and AMG-GT coupe.

“Our cars need to be ‘want’ cars,” he said. “The S-Class has maintained good loyalty because it’s aspirational. An EQS is not something that most people aspire to own.”

The rest goes onto explain how they’re running out of stupid rich people.

45 Replies to “We Don’t Need No Flaming Sparky Cars”

  1. The electric vehicle market is dead too…the manufacturer’s just don’t know it yet.
    A huge wave of investment revolt and bankruptcies has no choice but to hit this terrible technology that gives off vast amounts of radiation, is explosive and can catch fire in buildings and near other vehicles.
    Soon, the manufacturer’s emails and complaints will be scrutinized by lawsuits.
    The manufacturer had a choice in creating this mulfuncting product as government pressure and subsidies enticed them to invest in them.

    Good luck getting insurance when this breaks.

    1. Actually insuring an EV is skyrocketing as minor accidents are getting these cars written off.

  2. EVs can’t hold their value. The batteries needed to store the power take to long to charge and when it comes time to replace them cost more then the car is then worth. Look at your cell phone, it’s fantastic at the start but the storage capacity of it battery falls over time and rapidly after a few years. With a car that’s lost range and accessory power. In winter that could be a death trap because it cannot continue to heat keeping the people warm. The range also falls in winter due to the nature of batteries not holding as much power when they get to cold. Look at your gas powered car trying to start on a cold day. These cars also use batteries that when tier chemicals are mixed start fires that can’t be put out with water. A death trap in a crash that damages them. To charge them at home your power service needs to be upgraded. The power grid is incapable of supplying the needed electricity to more than a couple cars on a block. Our power capacity is also at its limit so more power plants would be needed to supply this power. Under the liberal government these can never be built. Not to mention the enormous amount of toxic chemicals electric cars contain that need to be safely disposed of or reclaimed when they are crushed at the end of their lives.

    Electric cars are a dead end.

    1. At least I can get a battery for my cell phone for 10-15% the price of a new phone (for an official battery) or 5-10% for an aftermarket one, but it doesn’t take me to work, or keep me warm and the charging requirements are minimal.

      An electrician neighbour and I were discussing what it would take to retrofit a faster charging station into the garage of an older home and it was on the order of $25k by the time you factor in: cable from source to house, upgrade panel in house, cable to garage, pony panel in garage, charging cable and connectors, all to current code with specific breakers..
      He suggested a battery system like Tesla, to slowly fill up during the off hours and high rate charge off the batteries, once the car is plugged in, due to the grid not being able to handle more than a few cars being plugged at once.
      Or, you could just go get a tank of gas!

      If we are already having grid alerts in the winter and in the summer, it would suggest we are already at the current limit (see what I did there) of electrical supply, in this province.
      The time to commission more power sources, and/or upgrade the grid to bring in power from another location (where?) would be 5-10 years or more. Also, what’s going to happen to electricity prices in the meantime? Not everyone has or needs a car, but most every person uses electricity, the prices will go up for everyone! The situation is untenable..

      Meanwhile, we sit on plenty of other resources,
      One option would be micro generation, each house has something like a natural gas fuel cell that powers our specific needs and sends the surplus to the grid, but that’s hard to keep a stable grid, as we all know from “renewables”.

      It akin to being found starved to death, beside a fridge full of food, with a lock on its door, that you can’t open..

        1. Actually I just got a new battery for my iPhone this summer. It was either $50 or $80….can’t remember exactly…..London Drugs did it……

  3. Electric vehicles are disposable. When the battery pack reaches end of life, so will the car. Who wants to drop $20,000 on a five year old car? I don’t, and won’t. Not only is the battery is wearing out, but so are the electronics. I don’t have much faith in a used EV market providing an alternative.

    I wonder if some people would look at the time just before the battery wears out as the perfect time for a fortuitous accident totaling out the vehicle? Because insurance companies will total an EV if they even suspect damage to the battery pack, due to fire dangers. If so, can you imagine the insurance premiums that would be necessary?

    1. I am curious to know if there will be leases available on the EVs .. that would possibly eliminate the resale problem. However, the lease costs would likely be very high to cover that new battery when the lease is done. And when the subsidies end ….

      EVs are a dumb item being bought by dumb people who virtue signal. I cannot think of ever one good reason for EVs … they are not exempt from creating massive amounts of toxic pollution. They can blow up and burn buildings. There are very heavy due to the massive bomb … er battery.

      Further to ….
      When there are many driver-less EVs out doing deliveries and so on they will be stolen, robbed and wrecked by you know who … Especially if they manage to get the big rigs running without a driver …. tons of unguarded cargo.

      America appears to have developed a cargo cult among young black people who raid stores in a gang and steal whatever is in sight … so take it from there.

  4. ANyone making bets on when Mercedes will realize it will be out of business in 2030?

      1. Woke and greedy. You KNOW the ONLY reason corporations are “on board” with all this global warming hysteria is $$$. They’re woke and GREEDY. Net Zero is a cash cow … or so their “progressive” Boards believe. Mercedes is begging to sell $104,000.00 electric saloons instead of the “cut rate” $52,000.00 models. Pssst … the consumer wants the $52,000.00 models.

        Enjoy your bankruptcy … when you finally acknowledge your utter misunderstanding of the REAL marketplace … not the fantasy one invented in your puny little heads.

    2. Ford is losing $40K on every F150 Lightening they sell.
      The greener eco twats go on about how the EV market is exploding by 50%, well 50% of not much is not much.
      Ford sold (I believe last quarter) 479,000 ICE vehicles to 20,000 EV’s.

  5. Imagine what could have been done with the hundreds of billions already wasted by government and private enterprise on this nonsense, not to mention the hundreds of billions (trillions?) more into the future. The thousands of acres of asphalt devoted to housing the millions of charging stations now and into the future is also an abomination. The increased stormwater runoff alone should be a wake up call to all these so called “environmentalists” who promote this stupidity.

    1. Yes they have pissed away a pile of money – but not going to happen in the future (at least on the EV front) – very select few will be allowed to own cars. The whole EV thing is just part of the scam to get people to buy into their own collective demise.

  6. “and all the dingbats”
    Says it all and it wasn’t from Archie Bunker.
    IMO a luxury EV is an oxymoron.

  7. If we ever want to build enough EV Li-ion battery packs, we are going to need to find a whole lot more African Slave Children to mine the minerals for the batteries. Because nothing says Progressive Success like enslaving children.

  8. Use their smugness against them.

    Thinking of printing up this bumper sticker.

    ” This vehicle free of African child slave labor.”

  9. Go figure. A niche product suited for warm climates is not fit for purpose in freezing temps. Who would’ve thunk that. Cold weather is the bane of all EV vehicles. Not only does it reduce the battery performance by over 30%, but the drain on the batteries just to keep the windows clear of frost and ice and the interior warm enough to prevent a run on Preparation H in stores, eliminates EV’s as a viable replacement of ICE vehicles.
    Right now an EV purchase is optional. There will come a time when it is not, as the ruling elite endgame is to reduce mobility for the masses anyway, and this tech suits that purpose.

    2. The writers in the comments on this site are amazing and so smart. John Gault makes the same point I have made for years on EV’s. The business model is severely flawed. The batteries should never have been affixed to the vehicle. And cold weather is the destroyer of batteries. Living in SK our garage gets so cold in winter, the Dyson cordless vacuum won’t even take a charge when it gets below -30 C. I won’t feel bad when the regular snow storm hit and all these EV’s die on the freeway. It will be gridlock of epic proportions.

      1. Better Place tried the battery swap idea and failed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Better_Place_%28company%29
        Tesla also toyed with the idea early in it’s early days but gave up on it as impractical.
        Re charging in the cold … I think all the cars heat the batteries for cold weather charging … one of the cold range reduction culprits. A tesla will start heating the battery when you ask it to find the nearest charger. With others ie Mustang E you may need to tell the car to start heating … check it out if you care.
        Anyway charging in the cold isn’t a problem but you do need level 2 220 volt service.

        1. “Re charging in the cold … I think all the cars heat the batteries for cold weather charging … ”

          They do. They also cool them when necessary. Lithium-Ion batteries are finicky that way…not quite as bad as Lithium-Polymer or some other technologies, but still they need to be kept within a certain temperature range to charge.

      2. Love it………we are on the same wavelength …………A new neighbor just moved into the neighbourhood and “of course” has a RED Tesla….my wife and I just laughed to ourselves….He gets out of the driveway and looks around to see IF anyone is watching him drive his EV……….just like a little kid in a park with his parents..”look at me, look at me”…it’s all so hilarious………..So tis winter when I go down the street with the snowblower I just might skip his sidewalk cause he probably has an EV Snowblower that cost 2X as much as my new gas snowblower…….LIFE IS GRAND

    3. Not suited for many warm climes, I have a sister in Texas who tells me they are just as range limited under A/C as under heating.

  13. They’re playing with the supply vs. demand factor to artificially inflate the cost of gas powered cars in order to make the EV’s more attractive. It’s the same little game they’re playing with oil/gas and refining. By lowering the domestic production, tacking on massive regulations and leveeing higher taxes they artificially inflate the cost to power a gas engine.

    All by design.

    The Mercedes dealer in this story sees that…and no doubt the executives at Mercedes see it too, but someone up high is doing the government’s work. It’s either under subsidy, threat or favors.

    1. Orson, “The Mercedes dealer in this story sees that…and no doubt the executives at Mercedes see it too, but someone up high is doing the government’s work. It’s either under subsidy, threat or favors.”

      That right there is the reality. ++++++
      The WEF has lots of bribe money, and I’m sure a few wet work types on their payroll, and we’ve all heard of the whistleblowers saying they have satanic rituals including torturing children to death, all while recording the act to have a means of control over that individual if needed later!

      However, to accept such a reality requires the peasantry to awaken and fight back……Sigh!

  14. Elon Musk should sell Tesla to the democrat party. They can go down together.

    I love most the things Elon Musk does or is doing. However, electric battery cars are not one of his greatest ideas …. I think he did get the money though … so good on him.

    Let Ford and GM and others take the hit. Tesla has quite well up till now .. what with all the tax payer subsidies AKA poor man’s taxes subsidize rich man’s virtue signal.

    1. I look forward to the day when liquidating a big chunk of his Tesla stock to buy Twitter … is gonna look like the Trade of the Decade

  15. …and a ‘loaner’ EV from a Mercedes dealership caught fire in the customer’s garage and burned the house down. The customer’s ICE Mercedes was in for service.

  16. Everything Government touches turns to shit.
    So Government commanding the economy.
    Will end in more shit.

    Electric Vehicles is a classic example of Regulation by government ,morons bringing an industry to its knees.
    Then subsidizing it as a zombie.
    And then complaining when the zombie bites.

    The Car Industry has no chance of rebellion,they have been ground down by endless regulation,to the point they are forbidden to make what the customer wants.

    Station Wagon? Gone.
    Plain Jane 8 foot box pickup? Very limited choice.
    Cargo Van with power? Extinct.
    The future vehicle of North America?
    Mahindra.

  17. Come on out back and I will show you my electric twanger?.. Said, nobody at all..

    The hassle factor.. A car is not supposed to be a range stress pain in the ass.. What are you going to do if you have 2 or more cars in your home?.. Charging multiple cars outdoors in the winter.. Where you gonna get the load to handle that and who is going outside at 1am to move the cars around?..

    Don’t get me going about apartment buildings and condos.. They are going to require their own power stations because these buildings are built in clusters.. A 1000 cars in a very small area..

    We are nowhere near wide adoption.. The mandates are fools gold..

    1. My Ram 1500 has a 123 litre gas tank. When I fill it up it says I have 900 km range. And it actually has more as it an usually go another 150 km of range after the warning light comes on.
      Of course, the pain is paying at the pump.

  18. Here is a little anecdote about where these EVs are heading.

    Back in the Sixties a friend I worked with had a neighbour who was happy, well actually ecstatic over a new car that he’d purchased. This neighbour was a bit of a …..well to coin a phrase a Twit, capital T. So my friend would sneak out once or twice a week and dump a few gallons of gas into the new car. This was when gas was priced in gallons, $0.40 to $0.50 per. The Twit was raving about the mileage of his new car. This went on for a couple of months and then the car went in for a check-up at the dealership. When it came back and my friend stopped adding the few gallons the mileage plummeted. Twit went back to the dealership and kicked up all kinds of hell about the loss of mileage. Bottom line was the Twit never again bought the brand. Moral of the story is that all the TWITS that bought EVs didn’t think that we have all been paying for their ‘happiness’ and we’re now reaching the point that we’re going to stop adding the ‘gas’.

  19. 200 years and counting…
    Since the “electric car” lost in the competition for customers business.
    But just like Wind Powered equipment,the “wisdom of government” insists they know better than the people actually using these tools.
    Electric Car and trucks are natural failures,imposed upon by societal failures.
    The Parasitic Overload.
    Time to junk them all.

    And as you drive through the farmlands of Alberta and Saskatchewan,you will see little islands of parked dead vehicles..
    These are not “Spare parts”,the farmers are lying to you.

    These are Trophy Fields.
    Proclaiming “I killed that”.
    Each has a tale of mechanical torture and human idiocy.
    “Hold my beer and watch this”.
    “Or boom the input shaft snapped”.
    Each a marker on the score card.

  20. I’m agnostic on EVs.

    But the reason why Mercedes has an inventory build is pure economics.

    Tesla has dropped vehicle prices by over $10,000 over the last year. Tesla is soaking up demand and the high end EV market is already saturated

    When you look at buyer intention data, there’s a lot of interest in EVs but it’s all at lower price points.

    Again, I’m agnostic on EVs so don’t lose your shite. This is just pure economics.

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