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I’m not a big Jordan Peterson fan. I think he’s too willing to give certain individuals and entities the benefit of the doubt when in fact they have a chronic history of the same abhorrent behavior. That being said, I find it hilarious that some “social media expert” is going to have to contend with him in their re-education camp. That job is going to rank up there with “Deadliest Catch” and “Ice Road Truckers.” It’s not a job any sane individual would relish.
Are you kidding me? There will be a huge line of the ideologically pure waiting for the chance to be the one to break him. His history being replete with instances of leaving lefties on the debate floor holding their heads in pain is but a challenge to them. Only the grifters will be crapping their pants at the prospect of facing him one on one.
If JP tapes the session(s), it will garner tens of millions of hits.
Apparently he has stated that he plans to make the whole process public and see where true transparency leads.
How many of the cry bullies want to be the next BBC presenter?
Hail Lobster!!!
I would tell them to to G F T.
“Re-education” … and then he’ll be “re-habilitated”. How many pages of Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn’s books was this mentioned in?
Something that escapes all liberals, “freedom of expression” or free speech, isn’t worth anything if it depends on gov’t protections, certainly not the thumb imprint on the scale from the liberal justice system in tier 2 Canada.
It truth doesn’t need “weighing” against anything, it’ll do just fine standing on its own.
The decision:
https://www.jordanbpeterson.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Peterson-v.-College-of-Psychologists-of-Ontario-DC-714-22-FINAL-18-August-2023.pdf
Rehabilitation? One night? Doesn’t sound so bad…!
The college of psychos needs to be shut down. They add zero value to society.
Just another form of lawfare … using bureaucratic apparatus to waste time and money on specious claims. The process is the punishment.
Communists are gonna communist
And seeing as how a majority of Canadians self-identify as Communists … well … they’re all cheering from the Gallery. “Criminal!” “Criminal!!!”
The court should have ruled that the non-client complainants have no standing and disciplined the college.
EIS. Everything is Stupid. Jordan’s enjoying life, his complainant’s aren’t. Whatever the final outcome, he wins.
So obviously the solution is any “pronouncements” from the college should result in a barrage of complaints for any spurious reason you can think of?
“Social Media Sensitivity Training”…..what a steaming pile of bull.
Having to attend and having to absorb their nonsense are not the same thing. Make their lives a living hell by questioning everything and arguing every point. I forget the movie but something to the sense of “you think I’m trapped in here with you, but actually you’re trapped in here with me.” Quite confident he will have them seeking counseling before it is over.
You missed the part about how the training has to go on until they say he’s been reeducated and he has to pay for it.
I did not see that. I guess you have to figure out how much the fun is worth and go from there. Hopefully he will be able to appeal this rubbish, but given the SCOC I wouldn’t put a lot of money on his chances.
Appeal to the blackbirds is just another way to drain the target’s resources. There is no hope of justice, merely process. What we have now is politics, not law.
It’s quite evil, when you look at what these proceedings actually take in time, money and human energy.
The College evidently expects to enrich itself and its toadies at Peterson’s expense. I don’t really think they understand the gravity of what they’ve undertaken here. Canada’s Bud-Lite moment? Could be.
One thing that could certainly happen is the casting of the entire College and all its members into disrepute. If people conclude the practice of Psychology in Canada is fundamentally corrupt, then they will STOP GOING TO PSYCHOLOGISTS. As well they should, given the obscene atrocities being committed on kids in the name of transgender.
The psychologist is required, by law and by College regulation, to tell your little boy he is in fact a girl. To tell your little girl she is in fact a boy. They are required to recommend catastrophic surgeries and destructive drugs to YOUR kid. Are you going to send your kid to that guy? No way.
So just let that discontent percolate a while, and pretty soon “psychologist” has the same meaning as “witch doctor” and the lawsuits will be piling up. Lawyers will like that, but the College of Psychologists will not.
The pay for it raised my eyebrows.
Reddic
The Watchmen…that line was spoken by Rorschach.
Where this will go:
* He will be compelled to sit in the room with his ‘educators’ as they ‘instruct’ him on how & what to say in public.
* He will refuse to heed any of these instructions.
* The instructors will report back to the college that the training was not completed successfully.
* The college will, perhaps, give him a second opportunity to complete this training, or perhaps proceed directly to disciplinary action.
* Said discipline will mean either a suspension or revocation of his license and an order that he cease referring to himself as a psychologist.
* He will refuse to obey this order.
* The college will take him to court again, citing his refusal to obey this order.
* The court will find in the college’s favor and attach further legal penalties for his refusal to comply.
* What he does at this point is a little fuzzier, but perhaps he leaves Canada permanently rather than comply.
This is Canada; this outcome is all but preordained. The culture of judicial deference to regulatory authorities is powerful, and our precious Charter all but worthless in such matters.
RE: Judicial deference to “regulators”, See: CSA
In Jordan’s case other jurisdictions have already said they would licence him to practice. So he can continue to call himself a licenced psychologist and tell ON to FO.
RNrn
IM, this was a civil court, not a criminal court. He can simply refuse to comply and defy the College to revoke his licence. As RN rightly noted, he can be approved by any other jurisdiction and granted a licence to practice. As for the Charter, you are right; it’s always been worthless in cases of regulatory overreach.
Did ya know there is also a re-education camp for leftists. It’s called hell.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut116mBuPpg
Since Peterson has announced his intention to record and make public the re-education, it will be interesting to see if any “suitable” professional would be willing to take the contract. The college may win an order which is impossible to enforce.
the College provided the names of 2 acceptable “educators” that Peterson can hire, at his own expense, to complete the required punishment
That would constitute cruel and unusual punishment. And to make it more so, he has to pay directly for it.
Remember when Ezra Levant recorded the attempted reprimand by Alberta Human Rights Commission? I enjoyed that and watched it a couple of times.
Coups are top down and revolutions are bottom up.. Make of that what you will..
I’ve seen this movie before:
https://youtu.be/FQnNCGN2ywE?si=X9170A7-tSykK_SM
Funny the court cited “public interest” in their findings. Pure Alinsky, as the fact is, what they are enforcing and promoting are globalist elite interests.
JP has the gravitas to end the re-education camp gulags like Mark Steyn and Ezra crushed the “Human Rights” courts.
Ezra Levant filming his interrogator is what also came to mind for me. Peterson should insist upon it.
L – The quote that explains: 3 years of Lockdowns, arbitrary detentions,
complete contempt for Constitutional Rights and Freedoms and for the
first time in Canadian history, a dropping standard of living, incomes
averaging 60% of that of our American cousins and heading lower.
Take up the challenge to adventure. Logos or chaos? You choose.
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“All responsibility on the political front abdicated by the average
citizen will be taken up by tyrants and used against you!”
Prof. Jordan Peterson
What these morons didn’t learn from history is that the useful idiots eventually wind up in the gulag or a hole as well. Now where’s that popcorn?
Popcorn, hell! Time to reach for the pitchforks & shovels ourselves.
It is strange to think that one of the leading Conservative voices, in the world no less, is a Canadian Clinical Psychologist.
And used to work for the NDP, in a time long ago.
I’m no longer a big fan of the man.
“Just get the vax.”
“America should go to war with Iran”
…and when challenged on these statements, he resorted to standard BS attacks on his critics:
“You’re killing grandma”, “You’re a misogynist”, etc.
That being said, he has every right to say what he likes, and no-one has any legitimate authority to stop him.
No-one has any legitimate authority to stop anyone from saying anything, short of incitement to murder or commit mayhem, and no-one has any legitimate authority to prevent me from listening to whoever I want.
…of course the Forever War folk don’t agree with me, and think that what they call “Enemy Propaganda” should be banned, so here we are, with a man getting punished for speaking his mind.
Be careful what you wish for.
Peterson is naive if he thinks he can play this game with them and win. Has he not seen The Last Emperor? He will also not be allowed to record the process. That will be a form of non compliance. He should tell them to pound sand and refuse to play.
Secret re-education, aka room 101.
Rats!
He will record and broadcast the whole thing. They made that a certainty when they said -he- had to pay for it. If he’s paying for it, then it happens with the “professional” of his choice, in the location of his choice, under whatever conditions he decides.
The very first problem the College will face is finding a “professional” willing to become widely reviled in Canada. Because -we- are all going to know who they are. Personally, I would spit on that guy in the street if I knew who they were. It will be the last job they do, possibly.
Who knew there was an “Association of Aggrieved Regulated professionals of Ontario”
I like Jordan Peterson!!!! This is the Lefts bullshit! Jordan tell them to go to HELL!
I like him too. This fiasco on the part of the College is disgusting.
Jordan seems to like continuing his clinical practice, perhaps because he wants to help where he can.
However, I would muse that he could move on, and still help much more, sans the clinical niche.
In short, tell them to stuff their shite and be the meta dude. He don’t need no license to tell the TRUTH.
Piss on the rules at this latter stage of the grand game.
I believe your sentiments are bang on, Stevie.
Considering some of the outright insanity, irrationality and pretense of the PTB, there is no obligation to honor a social contract that ceased to exist years ago. They honor no rules and they have no rules of honor.
Pissonim. Don’t miss a spot.
Quite some time ago, Peterson said he could survive nicely without the professional designation. The reason he is fighting for it is for those of us who cannot afford to. My admiration for him increased exponentially with that ❤️
They’re going to eat him.
They’re going to kill all of us.
I’m ready to take that bullet.
Come and get me.
Take one or two or more out with you, and you can die happy.
Honestly — happy or not, I just want to die
I don’t want you to die, I want you to live, and maybe fight, no matter how futile it may seem.
At worst, another sunrise is worth seeing, even from a cell.
I wonder how much he pays, per year, for his license?
An MD pays around $35 000/year, just to be allowed to practice, if he misses a payment, he ain’t a doctor no more, no matter what, no matter how good or bad he may be.
The USA, profiteering bastards that they are, have a way better system than Canada, but then again, so do most countries. We are taught the lie that we are Sofa King We Taught It.
Sad that there are plenty of voters happy to see free speech regulated
Funny, the overlap between the Forever War folk and the ban free speech folk.
Hooda thunk it?
Peterson is one bear I wouldn’t dare think of poking. Peterson has facts, logic and truth on his side. The candy asses, out to ruin him, have only feelings and a smug sense of self importance because they regulate his professional body.
I haven’t read far enough into this story to see the Justin Trudeau angle, but I’m sure our benevolent emporer in blackface had his sissy feelings hurt by the good doctor.
“facts, logic and truth” are irrelevant.
As of their defeat in 2016, they are playing this game for keeps. On every front. The sooner everyone realizes that, the better.
https://wiki.killuglyradio.com/wiki/File:Zappa_in_Warner_Bros._Sucks!_shirt.jpg
It’s later than we think.
We’ve slipped this far.
Zappa could shite on a major corp with impunity.
Register a complaint with the Ontario College of Psychologists here:
https://members.cpo.on.ca/public_register/complaint_form
Here is mine:
I wish to lodge a complaint against the College for impinging on the Charter rights of Dr. Jordan Peterson and by extension, myself and all Canadians.
I am an Honorable Lifetime Member of the Professional Photographers of Canada (PPOC), like the College, a regulatory body for professionals. Without informing its’ membership, PPOC publicly aligned our members with Black Lives Matters, trans-activism and instituted their own Diversity, Inclusion and Equity Advisory Committee. I was not in agreement with the political direction my organization had undertaken as I believed, based on nearly 40 years of association and participation, that PPOC was impugning both the organization and our members by making the assumption that we were at the very least, vessels of inherent if unrecognized racism and sexism.
Like Dr. Peterson and the College, I was threatened with the loss of my credentials unless I were to submit to a tribunal of the PPOC ethics committee, despite the fact that my concerns and complaints were made internally rather than publicly. I would suggest to the College that you are acting unethically – that your concern lies not with the public nor patients, but with an ideology that demands fealty and fears free thought. Canada, once a proud, honourable and free nation, is not the Canada I have always known and loved. The College and it’s enablers are leading us to a very dark place while proclaiming the moral high ground. This cannot end well.
Excelent. If only more peope will lodge comlaints.
I had a similar situation years ago. I stood up and was hammered down. Everyone else got the message loud and clear. Apart from hand wringing, no one stood up for me. Count on it.
I didn’t make it past the soft porn advert YouTube fed me. They know his audience for sure.
The “progressive” Left recognizes no moral authority other than themselves.
Once you realize that, you need to come to terms with the reality that continuing to co-exist with them is impossible.
I’d refuse – but only if my money was all out of the country and hence, out of their reach and beyond their bank-account-freezing. “Well we’ll THROW YOU IN JAIL!” ” – Whatever…”
I would love to see him take social media training, he should record it. The trainer would be massacred
So just out of curiosity, who’s the conservathot? I couldn’t be bothered to watch the whole clip to find out but hot blonde in a tank top? That’s the only person who would interview JP?
His daughter.
“That’s the only person who would interview JP?”
Ya, Jordan Peterson can’t buy an audience or an interview.
Her first words were “Dad, nice to see you” 41 seconds in
And your take away is “hot blonde , tank top” and you know nothing.
Please stay.
JP is a much sought after interviewee. Programs are typically planned well in advance and this decision just happened, His daughter is involved in media and a big supporter of his. I think it is just fine that she is backing him and helping him get his message out. Did you expect the CBC to give him a platform?
He should write a book “Social Media Resilience for Snowflakes”
“I couldn’t be bothered to watch the whole clip”
Try listening to it while cleaning your room.
Whoever it is that takes the task of re-educating JBP better realize that he’s an intellect with an IQ somewhere north of 185. Watch a few extended clips of him taking questions, making comments and lecturing and you soon realize, if you care to check, that his ability to analyze, formulate an answer and communicate it exactly as he means it is unfathomable to the vast majority of viewers. We’ve been accustomed to BS fluff for so long that when truly brilliant people speak we take it as the regular BS. He, as a psychologist, will analyze the speaker, come to a conclusion and then re-educate them all day, for months if that’s what they want to subject him to. I look forward to this process playing out. Nothing like a Saskatchewan born fella, raised in the hinterlands of the Peace country all book learned and fancy, having NDP volunteer experience, kicking a bunch of wokies in the crotch repeatedly and unapologetically simply because he can afford to do it, and enjoys a good (even if one-sided) debate. The lineup of lefties to apply for the task will be incredibly privileged if they win the brass ring to get free counseling by JBP.
He must save a lot of money shopping at the used clown clothes store.
My nomination for “social media expert” is Ezra Levant, he is the only one in that field I would consider to be an expert.