One Flu Out Of The Wuhan Nest

Last week,

… two of the top scientific advisors to Anthony Fauci testified before the House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic, which is investigating the origins of Covid-19.

Bob Garry told members of Congress that the novel coronavirus had emerged in nature and not from a lab.

His colleague, Kristian Andersen, denounced Republicans for spreading a “conspiracy theory” that he and Garry had worked with Fauci in early 2020 to produce disinformation about Covid’s origin in the form of a March 17, 2020 Nature Medicine paper, “The Proximal Origin of SARS-CoV-2.”

That paper dismissed the lab leak theory and has been viewed nearly six million times since its publication.

Andersen, a professor at Scripps Research, acknowledged that some earlier, heavily-publicized emails between him, his colleagues and Fauci had shown that they had previously considered the lab leak hypothesis as a serious possibility.

But, Andersen told Congress, after he and his co-authors had carefully considered the evidence, they concluded that “culturing” in different cells or animal species in a lab, which can make a virus more infectious and well-adapted for humans and other animal species, had not occurred, and that the virus had spilled over from wildlife to humans.

“By the time we published our final version of Proximal Origin,” Andersen explained in his written testimony, “I no longer believed that a ‘culturing’ scenario was plausible.”

Andersen emphasized to Congress that this wasn’t because Fauci, National Institute of Health Director Francis Collins, or anyone in the White House or Intelligence Community had asked him to. The reason was simply that he and his colleagues were practicing science.

“As is almost always the case in science,” explained Andersen, “this change in belief was not based on a single piece of evidence, but a combination of many factors, including additional data, analyses, learning more about coronaviruses, and discussions with colleagues and collaborators.”

But now, Public and Racket have obtained hundreds of previously unreleased email and Slack direct messages which cover the period when Andersen and his colleagues collaborated to write “Proximal Origin.”

Those communications paint a starkly different picture from the one Andersen and Garry presented to Congress last week. They show that Andersen and his colleagues clearly thought it was indeed possible not only that the virus that causes Covid-19 had leaked from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, but specifically that it had been cultured in the laboratory.

In non-conspiracy theory developments, the US government has announced they will no longer fund that research lab in Wuhan that Fauci & Co. had nothing to do with.

On a local level…

17 Replies to “One Flu Out Of The Wuhan Nest”

  1. Wonder when it will come out that the Winnipeg lab and the Chinese characters had anything to do with the biological attack.

    1. I’m sorry. I can’t hear you. There’s a landfill to dig up.

  2. Murray Wood? That CKOM news director? The one with the serious Trump Derangement Syndrome? That Murray Wood?

    Don’t expect any serious news out of that crap radio station. When was the last time John Gormley discussed anything other than flowers and cake recipes. He used to be a serious journalist until Murray Wood took over.

    No longer on my channel list.

    1. Gormless is a star in Canadian talk radio. Every radio station has a milquetoast talk anchor who only has opinions that conform to the woke orthodoxy. Anything controversial and your gone.

  3. So these scientists either perjured themselves last week, or admitted they aren’t very good scientists having come to the incorrect conclusion.

    1. It’s a common misconception that as a scientist you have to be good or smart. You just have to have the ability to generate a real good doomsday story for the media and politicians. Have a look at Neil Ferguson who in his professional scientific life never got a prediction right, they call him “Doctor Doom” at the Imperial College of London. In fact been kind of stupid allows you to have the confidence in your abilities to pull it off over and over again.

      https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2020/05/08/so-the-real-scandal-is-why-did-anyone-ever-listen-to-this-guy/

  4. K. Andersen
    “I’m worried that we can’t fully disprove culture… We also can’t fully rule out engineering.”
    Of course they fully ruled out engineering.

  5. And a recent NYT article buried a paragraph that admits COVID deaths were probably over counted by at least 30% – which means it was probably much higher than that. And we are supposed to trust the “experts” – sure…..

  6. But, but, but. It’s (safe) right?

    After years of organizing and advocacy by people suffering autoimmune injuries from the COVID-19 vaccine, one of the world’s top scientific journals reports on the existence of “Long Vax.”

    Which by the way. My wife has. 2 years of suffering.

  7. I’m sure quite a few of these “scientists” were fully aware that this was a man made virus created in a lab; and it got loose.

    At least they did until that promised “grant” from Fauci and company showed up.

    Then it was just Chinese people eating crazy shit that caused it.

  8. Well, this is just more evidence that our “elites” were convinced that the Chi-Com-Flu was developed within a Chinese bio-weapon project, that Western governments paid for (and probably spied upon). And if they did indeed believe that it was an actual bio-weapon, or just a “proof-of-concept” agent, that explains why governments did their wild freak-out over the disease.

    The release of this disease could easily be construed to be an Act of War, requiring a rather serious response from Western governments. However, the scandal of their own funding of an enemy’s bio-weapon development program, along with rather a lot of graft flowing to those who supported that funding, made an appropriate and proportional response impossible. Instead, what we got was a lot of our leaders pretending that this was nothing but a bizarre accident of nature, and forcing entire populations into lockdown and quarantine.

    Our leadership should pay dearly for their corrupt deception, but instead they will be secure in their sinecures, continue to collect their filthy blood-money, and pretend that they were just humble public servants trying to protect the world from a terrible accident of nature.

    1. Yes, the problem with affixing blame to the CPC and Wuhan Institute is that our own mad scientists were intimately involved and guilty as hell.

  9. Hey, what’s the big deal? You all just “experienced it differently”, no big deal, don’t ask questions, don’t demand anyone accept responsibility. Quit your fussing people of Turtle Island. You have TikTok and Tinder, what more do you need? Stop thinking too hard, the government is here to help you.

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