Trying to imagine a debate like this in Canada’s “Parliament”‘
A debate? How quaint. Some countries, actually trying to get it right, are refusing to inject healthy men <40. We are still pushing and encouraging it, without any mention of possible risks. Surely at this point some entity in Canada or US can be sued for failing to warn the uninformed.
Jabocide .
Society will learn nothing. I’m not trying to be cynical, I’m basing this on the fact the UK learned nothing from the 2009 H1N1 swine flu and Pandemrix Vaccine. Does this sound eerily familiar to you:
“n October 2009, the US National Institutes of Health infectious diseases chief, Anthony Fauci, appeared on YouTube to reassure Americans about the safety of the “swine flu” vaccine. “The track record for serious adverse events is very good. It’s very, very, very rare that you ever see anything that’s associated with the vaccine that’s a serious event,” he said.
Four months earlier, the World Health Organization had declared H1N1 influenza a pandemic, and by October 2009 the new vaccines were being rolled out across the world….
Now, eight years after the outbreak, new information is emerging from one of the lawsuits that, months before the narcolepsy cases were reported, the manufacturer and public health officials were aware of other serious adverse events logged in relation to Pandemrix.”
The way H1N1 fear was played up, the pushing of barely tested vaccines/new adjuvants, freedom from liability for big pharma…it was a test run, imo. It took over eight years for vaccine victims to receive compensation and the UK government fought against the injured citizens every step of the way.
My kids were little in 2009. Like covid, I researched the disease and the vaccines and then refused to give my consent to vaccinate the kids. Public health tried 3 times to change my mind. At least there weren’t any mandates, vaccine passports or segregation and discrimination that time.
No wonder people are becoming ‘vaccine hesitant’. We’re literally being used as Guinea Pigs.
It’s obscene. It’s like the entire population has advanced societal dementia and, every decade or so, forgets everything we’ve learned about human rights, full and informed medical consent and a prohibition against human experimentation.
“every decade”? As someone once said something like: A week is a long time in politics.
“He’s saying what I can’t . . . remember.”
I gotta “remember” that line, it’s a classic.
I watched it just to see if anyone keeled over.
[Deleted. – ED]
The best part was calling out Canada as a bad actor.
Quote from Mr. Danny Kruger – Member of UK Parliament: “…I would say that the UK as a whole, while many questions need to be answered about our Covid response is by no means the worst offender. We’re not Canada or New Zealand or China. Places where they think they can exterminate Covid by depriving the population of the most basic civil liberties.” And the Oscar for the WORST ACTOR goes to…
The only thing politicians are interested in learning about is how to get re elected. It is my opinion that most of them are dumb asses who couldn’t make it in the private sector.
At least it is becoming okay to discus this monstrous thing that has been done to millions of people. Many who have not yet suffered side effects will spend the next few years waiting and worrying,
Those are already suffering or who have died, need justice.
Everyone who lost their jobs or businesses need to be compensated … preferably by big pharma rather than we tax payers.
I never got the jab nor did most of my extended family. We are skeptics and wisely so.
If our kids and grand kids grow up with lingering health problems .. they will at the very least, piss on our graves.
From my close observations politicians are:
1. Careerist . These are the worst of the species; they did PoliSci 101 at Uni and worked unpaid fopr MPs for a couple off years and finally, after running in an unwinnable seat, earn the easier to win seat after sme waiting, as a reward. They are now back benchers and follow the party central committee establishment/strategists to give them clues how to ingratiate themselves with the leader and his cronies. The smart ones make media contacts. Government is secondary to these people, their advancement is paramount and the bureaucracy is their to take care of their problems.
2. The idealist. These are DIppers and the lucky ones gt union support for a happy life untroubled by government until their 6 years and they get full retirment benefits. They later become available for UN missions, members of Royal Commissions, etc.
3. The businessman. He struts around using his success in business to bully his way to the public front. His money makes him independent of the usual fundraisers. However, he generally suffers many of the problems of the idealist, not appreciating that the game has nothing to do with good government or doing good. He usually loses an election and retires to write columns for national newspapers that no one reads.
The businessman, sorta like Garth Turner.
University of Toronto gives discrimination and defrauding Canadians the green light
At the end of June, I sent my third and final letter to the University of Toronto requesting an investigation into Fisman’s fraudulent study1 that was used to vilify the “unvaccinated” and provide justification for the government’s discriminatory policies and restrictions against anyone who refused to take the rushed-to-market covid “vaccines.” …”
This is an important post. It makes it clear that there is an agenda in play that has nothing to do with health. When the Fisman paper came out, a number of scientists wrote scathing and detailed critiques to rebut Fisman’s claim that unvaccinated were some how more of a danger for transmission than vaccinated. The paper was deliberately designed to promote the government narrative. Reports on the paper, repeating the misinformation were carried in newspapers across Canada– no coincidence. I wrote 5 letters to the Globe, pointing out the problems and requested either a correction or publication of one of the scientists challenging the findings. No such luck. On the Covid vaccine issue, the Globe and most other Canadian news sources are deliberately deceptive. I am very glad the Fisman fraud has not been forgotten. Everyone should read the statscritic posting linked above. It is a reavealing post about the deception and conflict of interest in our institutions.
I find this vid absolutely incredible, contrast the calm question and answers to the Canadian Parliament where Lieberals snarl non answers to questions. Where if you disagree with the government you are deemed to be a racist and misogynist. What ever that has to do with vaccines.
The safety of vaccines and informed consent is still not up for debate in Canada. People are still going for their fifth vaccination despite having had covid. I can’t condemn these people they have been terrorized by our government. Some of them are my friends and I am afraid they will succumb to the effects of the vaccines in the next few years.
The problem still remains. There is too much money from Big Pharma supporting public health agencies so they are technically in a conflict of interest when it comes to their chartered responsibilities. The first spokesman from the MHRA is similarly affected – the MHRA is funded to the tune of 85% of its budget by Big Pharma. No one bites the hand that feeds them.
Why governments were so insistent on 100% vaccination was to not leave a residual of unvaccinated population that could be used as a control.
L – Robert of Ottawa, that is an astute observation, indeed.
This cover-up resembles a homicidal maniac trying to cover their tracks and fingerprints, and
to degrade any mRNA linking them to the crime, a crime against humanity in this case.
If the truth be told: We know. They know. They know, that we know, that they know.
Already, they are pleading for an amnesty. But haven’t said for what, exactly.
Full informed consent from Pfizer et al. has been a colossal farce and deception.
They knew what they were doing with malice aforethought and were only interested in profit.
As opposed to actually helping people with their health conditions, Pfizer et al. arguably pursued the option to degrade health conditions. Hence the Pfizer et al. desire to bury their data for 75 YEARS, which they knew impacted some 1200 known health conditions as per the FOIA release.
The full on nonstop propaganda machine to get the “clot shot”, as pathologist Dr Ryan Cole aptly named it, was purely and solely to generate recurrent streams of royalties from each shot given via nanotechnology and mRNA patents.
Amnesty for the perps is needed, from where rope meets lamp post…Nuremburg 2.0
Cheers
Hans Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
1st St Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”
Also why Pfizzer and Moderna got to “vaccinating” those control groups that were supposed to be monitored for a couple more years.
A debate to determine the safety & efficacy of a vaccine?
What kind of science is that?
Note: If you answered “Well hell, it’s obviously the same kind of cheesy, political, paid-for, non-science, crap they call ‘Climate science'”, then congratulations.
You are correct!
You’re joking when you criticize the debate to determine vax safety and efficacy, right? As near as I can figure it’s the total lack of public debate with regards to the vax that’s led to the big lie to spread from just protecting seniors to jabbing expectant moms and 6-month-old infants. Get the studies side by side in public. Compare the data. Give voice to the vax injured. Put bureaucrats on the spot to justify their tone deaf one-size-fits-all Covid policies. There’s many levels and facets to “safe and effective”. It was the obvious lie that was the key to opening Pandora’s box of Pandemic Hell. The more the Public hears, imo, the more they’re gonna want to know. Much more.
Your comment is spot on. I wasn’t making jokes about the debate, I was just lamenting the fact that it was conducted by politicians after the damage was done rather than by real scientists before hand.
The vax crap is killing people and Canadians walk around with their heads planted up their a**** and the government is babbling about masks again, Jesus are we really that stupid?
Trying to imagine a debate like this in Canada’s “Parliament”‘
A debate? How quaint. Some countries, actually trying to get it right, are refusing to inject healthy men <40. We are still pushing and encouraging it, without any mention of possible risks. Surely at this point some entity in Canada or US can be sued for failing to warn the uninformed.
Jabocide .
Society will learn nothing. I’m not trying to be cynical, I’m basing this on the fact the UK learned nothing from the 2009 H1N1 swine flu and Pandemrix Vaccine. Does this sound eerily familiar to you:
“n October 2009, the US National Institutes of Health infectious diseases chief, Anthony Fauci, appeared on YouTube to reassure Americans about the safety of the “swine flu” vaccine. “The track record for serious adverse events is very good. It’s very, very, very rare that you ever see anything that’s associated with the vaccine that’s a serious event,” he said.
Four months earlier, the World Health Organization had declared H1N1 influenza a pandemic, and by October 2009 the new vaccines were being rolled out across the world….
Now, eight years after the outbreak, new information is emerging from one of the lawsuits that, months before the narcolepsy cases were reported, the manufacturer and public health officials were aware of other serious adverse events logged in relation to Pandemrix.”
https://www.bmj.com/content/362/bmj.k3948
The way H1N1 fear was played up, the pushing of barely tested vaccines/new adjuvants, freedom from liability for big pharma…it was a test run, imo. It took over eight years for vaccine victims to receive compensation and the UK government fought against the injured citizens every step of the way.
My kids were little in 2009. Like covid, I researched the disease and the vaccines and then refused to give my consent to vaccinate the kids. Public health tried 3 times to change my mind. At least there weren’t any mandates, vaccine passports or segregation and discrimination that time.
No wonder people are becoming ‘vaccine hesitant’. We’re literally being used as Guinea Pigs.
It’s obscene. It’s like the entire population has advanced societal dementia and, every decade or so, forgets everything we’ve learned about human rights, full and informed medical consent and a prohibition against human experimentation.
“every decade”? As someone once said something like: A week is a long time in politics.
“He’s saying what I can’t . . . remember.”
I gotta “remember” that line, it’s a classic.
I watched it just to see if anyone keeled over.
[Deleted. – ED]
The best part was calling out Canada as a bad actor.
Quote from Mr. Danny Kruger – Member of UK Parliament: “…I would say that the UK as a whole, while many questions need to be answered about our Covid response is by no means the worst offender. We’re not Canada or New Zealand or China. Places where they think they can exterminate Covid by depriving the population of the most basic civil liberties.” And the Oscar for the WORST ACTOR goes to…
The only thing politicians are interested in learning about is how to get re elected. It is my opinion that most of them are dumb asses who couldn’t make it in the private sector.
At least it is becoming okay to discus this monstrous thing that has been done to millions of people. Many who have not yet suffered side effects will spend the next few years waiting and worrying,
Those are already suffering or who have died, need justice.
Everyone who lost their jobs or businesses need to be compensated … preferably by big pharma rather than we tax payers.
I never got the jab nor did most of my extended family. We are skeptics and wisely so.
If our kids and grand kids grow up with lingering health problems .. they will at the very least, piss on our graves.
From my close observations politicians are:
1. Careerist . These are the worst of the species; they did PoliSci 101 at Uni and worked unpaid fopr MPs for a couple off years and finally, after running in an unwinnable seat, earn the easier to win seat after sme waiting, as a reward. They are now back benchers and follow the party central committee establishment/strategists to give them clues how to ingratiate themselves with the leader and his cronies. The smart ones make media contacts. Government is secondary to these people, their advancement is paramount and the bureaucracy is their to take care of their problems.
2. The idealist. These are DIppers and the lucky ones gt union support for a happy life untroubled by government until their 6 years and they get full retirment benefits. They later become available for UN missions, members of Royal Commissions, etc.
3. The businessman. He struts around using his success in business to bully his way to the public front. His money makes him independent of the usual fundraisers. However, he generally suffers many of the problems of the idealist, not appreciating that the game has nothing to do with good government or doing good. He usually loses an election and retires to write columns for national newspapers that no one reads.
The businessman, sorta like Garth Turner.
University of Toronto gives discrimination and defrauding Canadians the green light
https://statscritic.substack.com/p/uoft-fraud-green-light?utm_source=direct&r=1b6bhp&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
“The #FismansFraud fiasco continues.
At the end of June, I sent my third and final letter to the University of Toronto requesting an investigation into Fisman’s fraudulent study1 that was used to vilify the “unvaccinated” and provide justification for the government’s discriminatory policies and restrictions against anyone who refused to take the rushed-to-market covid “vaccines.” …”
This is an important post. It makes it clear that there is an agenda in play that has nothing to do with health. When the Fisman paper came out, a number of scientists wrote scathing and detailed critiques to rebut Fisman’s claim that unvaccinated were some how more of a danger for transmission than vaccinated. The paper was deliberately designed to promote the government narrative. Reports on the paper, repeating the misinformation were carried in newspapers across Canada– no coincidence. I wrote 5 letters to the Globe, pointing out the problems and requested either a correction or publication of one of the scientists challenging the findings. No such luck. On the Covid vaccine issue, the Globe and most other Canadian news sources are deliberately deceptive. I am very glad the Fisman fraud has not been forgotten. Everyone should read the statscritic posting linked above. It is a reavealing post about the deception and conflict of interest in our institutions.
I find this vid absolutely incredible, contrast the calm question and answers to the Canadian Parliament where Lieberals snarl non answers to questions. Where if you disagree with the government you are deemed to be a racist and misogynist. What ever that has to do with vaccines.
The safety of vaccines and informed consent is still not up for debate in Canada. People are still going for their fifth vaccination despite having had covid. I can’t condemn these people they have been terrorized by our government. Some of them are my friends and I am afraid they will succumb to the effects of the vaccines in the next few years.
The problem still remains. There is too much money from Big Pharma supporting public health agencies so they are technically in a conflict of interest when it comes to their chartered responsibilities. The first spokesman from the MHRA is similarly affected – the MHRA is funded to the tune of 85% of its budget by Big Pharma. No one bites the hand that feeds them.
Why governments were so insistent on 100% vaccination was to not leave a residual of unvaccinated population that could be used as a control.
L – Robert of Ottawa, that is an astute observation, indeed.
This cover-up resembles a homicidal maniac trying to cover their tracks and fingerprints, and
to degrade any mRNA linking them to the crime, a crime against humanity in this case.
If the truth be told: We know. They know. They know, that we know, that they know.
Already, they are pleading for an amnesty. But haven’t said for what, exactly.
Full informed consent from Pfizer et al. has been a colossal farce and deception.
They knew what they were doing with malice aforethought and were only interested in profit.
As opposed to actually helping people with their health conditions, Pfizer et al. arguably pursued the option to degrade health conditions. Hence the Pfizer et al. desire to bury their data for 75 YEARS, which they knew impacted some 1200 known health conditions as per the FOIA release.
The full on nonstop propaganda machine to get the “clot shot”, as pathologist Dr Ryan Cole aptly named it, was purely and solely to generate recurrent streams of royalties from each shot given via nanotechnology and mRNA patents.
Amnesty for the perps is needed, from where rope meets lamp post…Nuremburg 2.0
Cheers
Hans Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
1st St Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”
Also why Pfizzer and Moderna got to “vaccinating” those control groups that were supposed to be monitored for a couple more years.
A debate to determine the safety & efficacy of a vaccine?
What kind of science is that?
Note: If you answered “Well hell, it’s obviously the same kind of cheesy, political, paid-for, non-science, crap they call ‘Climate science'”, then congratulations.
You are correct!
You’re joking when you criticize the debate to determine vax safety and efficacy, right? As near as I can figure it’s the total lack of public debate with regards to the vax that’s led to the big lie to spread from just protecting seniors to jabbing expectant moms and 6-month-old infants. Get the studies side by side in public. Compare the data. Give voice to the vax injured. Put bureaucrats on the spot to justify their tone deaf one-size-fits-all Covid policies. There’s many levels and facets to “safe and effective”. It was the obvious lie that was the key to opening Pandora’s box of Pandemic Hell. The more the Public hears, imo, the more they’re gonna want to know. Much more.
Your comment is spot on. I wasn’t making jokes about the debate, I was just lamenting the fact that it was conducted by politicians after the damage was done rather than by real scientists before hand.
The backtracking dam…
Has burst…
Coming to every “news” show near you….
https://mobile.twitter.com/ms_duckworth/status/1590651739543592963?cxt=HHwWhoDTjYvVkJMsAAAA
The vax crap is killing people and Canadians walk around with their heads planted up their a**** and the government is babbling about masks again, Jesus are we really that stupid?