25 Replies to “The Great Work From Home Experiment”
“Musk got some pushback for his comments (what else is new?) on Twitter this week, with some users arguing that Tesla could wind up losing too many of its staff as a result of the forced requirement.”
Musk may be counting on it. It may be a way to weed out those employees who are only pretending to work.
The powerful federal public sector unions will never agree to letting their members go back to their offices full-time. Their reasoning is simple and logical: since we don’t do much, if anything, when we are in the office, we might as well “work from home”. And as a bonus, it is great for the environment since we don’t have to drive to the office!
He may not like the ‘Great Resignation’ that is still currently happening.
Many people are finally fed up with their jobs and below cost of living pay.
The labor shortage has gotten drastically worse with the governments push for getting that joy juice jab.
Happy Happy Joy Joy.
I think work from home was a good thing to come out of the pandemic– probably the only good thing. It is not suitable for many jobs, but works pretty well with office jobs.
Agreed. Now they can screw the pooch from the safety of their homes with no supervision.
When they can apply for another lifeguard job … in their quest to earn $1M/year … as a frikking lifeguard!!! A job I had in HS … good God!
That’s crazy. Totally!
I appreciate a boss who gives clear and concise direction.
“Pretend to work somewhere else”. So, Mr. Musk; how do you REALLY feel about working from home? Lol!
The man’s got style.
Musk is a busy man.
He runs a few companies and has his eye on Mars.
He ain’t got time for jerkoffs slowing him down.
With central banks raising interest rates, the days of having many job opportunities to choose from may be fast coming to an end.
L – This work from home, supposedly justified(?) by the Panic-demic and the Lockdowns(prison applicable terminology). In some jobs, where productivity is measurable, and skilled and dedicated workers can do well enough, on a temporary basis. It does not develop and maintain the team spirit for high productivity.
On the other hand for much government work and some overstaffed private employers. How is their productivity even measured? Why would the wanker class object to self-supervision? (search for CNN and Toobing)
Space-X and Tesla have to meet production goals and timelines. On the other hand, the governing elite, depend on the wealth creation of the productive class, to keep them in a lifestyle to which they’ve become accustomed.
Now with resultant high inflation and falling living standards for the citizenry, the governing elite might find themselves navigating rough seas, ahead…perhaps, in a rowboat/life raft.
An easy solution — people should be allowed to work from home unless they work for the government. The lack of real work in the public service makes it too difficult to figure out if they are doing anything useful at home.
I think the writer of that short article “Tyler”, needs to return to his office.
The first half of the first sentence tells me he’s sitting in the same place he worked on his ninth grade school assignments.
Sorry, I always overlook typos, punctuation and capitalization now. I can’t let word usage go down the same drain hole too.
I read somewhere thst “Tyler” is multiple people.
For some industries it makes sense, there are things that can only be done in person.
About the only time I need to be in the office, is if need to print something out that is 11×17.
The rest of the time, I can work from home, or on the job site where most of my work should be.
It also saves me 2 hours per day in travel, and over 50km or wear and tear of my vehicle.
A lot depends on the job.
I have been doing consultancy work for the last 25 years or so.
Not so long ago, the customer using my services had the attitude that if they were paying me, they wanted to see my face.
Not that they did after the first five minutes, I would end up in some remote cube or office space that no-one else wanted, working on computers in a data center hundreds of miles away.
Then, about 15 years ago, the bean counters counted the beans that it was costing them for the pleasure of seeing my face for five minutes (airfare, hotel, food, car rental) and suddenly started asking if this job could be done remotely. Well, it really isn’t important where you sit to work on those remote computers. The company I was working for never allocated office space for me, because I was never there … so, work from home. Which is what I had been doing between gigs anyway.
However, it doesn’t work for everyone or every job. My guess is that Musk has looked at the results and seen a productivity hit. Done properly, it usually increases productivity. But, it doesn’t work for everyone, and some people do try to take advantage. Trying to micro-manage remotely just doesn’t work. In his place, I would probably do a reset, then slowly work out what jobs and which people this could work for, and offer it as an incentive.
I’ve been successfully working remotely since March 2020. I work 10 to 12 hours every weekday and often some weekends too. I sense that most of my colleagues work hard too. We’ve had a few slacker contractors but it’s easy to spot them when they don’t respond to Slack messages for hours.
It really very much depends upon the job and upon the work ethic of the employee. Some jobs demand in-person work – think being a vet trying to do a phone consult with a cat. Others can work from home, but the problems encountered in trying quick interactions with colleagues mean a serious productivity loss Have an offspring who much prefers being back at the office as offspring and boss are very much more productive when can informally bat ideas around with minimal formality and no notice. For some others, the family situation is such that working from home is very productive. We’ve family members in all three categories.
I mentioned the “work ethic” of the employee. At a seminar I attended, the presenter was pushing the case for management to get employees back to the office ASAP unless there were specific circumstances. It seems not all employees are that conscientious when working from home; the example given was of an employee of an oil and gas firm who, when told that the company was switching to on-site work only and that she would be expected to move, responded that she couldn’t as she had three other jobs.
work from home?
dropped by the locked up-no signage local office of yer landlord tenant tribunal seeking information on post?-covid rule changes.
their web site had no contact ph #.
the office was vacant.
iquired another gummamint office, employment train, receptionist had no idea wtf.
called the local mpp, this is all prov jurisdiction stuff. it was all news to them.
so. where are these people ‘working from home’?
mysteries of the universe.
“Musk got some pushback for his comments (what else is new?) on Twitter this week, with some users arguing that Tesla could wind up losing too many of its staff as a result of the forced requirement.”
Musk may be counting on it. It may be a way to weed out those employees who are only pretending to work.
The powerful federal public sector unions will never agree to letting their members go back to their offices full-time. Their reasoning is simple and logical: since we don’t do much, if anything, when we are in the office, we might as well “work from home”. And as a bonus, it is great for the environment since we don’t have to drive to the office!
He may not like the ‘Great Resignation’ that is still currently happening.
Many people are finally fed up with their jobs and below cost of living pay.
The labor shortage has gotten drastically worse with the governments push for getting that joy juice jab.
Happy Happy Joy Joy.
I think work from home was a good thing to come out of the pandemic– probably the only good thing. It is not suitable for many jobs, but works pretty well with office jobs.
Agreed. Now they can screw the pooch from the safety of their homes with no supervision.
I can’t see China doing any long distance shipping as that our stores here are totally reliant on.
The costs of fossil fuels were already generating havoc before the Pandemic and is expected to get much higher.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/jpm-sees-oil-rising-136-month-depending-what-china-does-trader-bets-millions-crude
Not worth the hassle as even the Insurance Companies are pulling coverage as tensions escalate with the US.
Call it Elon’s great reset.
That’s when they suddenly find common cause with trucker protesters.
I’ll be over in the corner inconspicuously munching on popcorn when the rock falls out of the sky in their general vicinity.
Learn to Lifeguard? …
https://nypost.com/2022/05/31/la-lifeguards-raked-in-up-to-500k-last-year-watchdog-report/
And can retire at 55 with 79% of their pay?
When they can apply for another lifeguard job … in their quest to earn $1M/year … as a frikking lifeguard!!! A job I had in HS … good God!
That’s crazy. Totally!
I appreciate a boss who gives clear and concise direction.
“Pretend to work somewhere else”. So, Mr. Musk; how do you REALLY feel about working from home? Lol!
The man’s got style.
Musk is a busy man.
He runs a few companies and has his eye on Mars.
He ain’t got time for jerkoffs slowing him down.
With central banks raising interest rates, the days of having many job opportunities to choose from may be fast coming to an end.
L – This work from home, supposedly justified(?) by the Panic-demic and the Lockdowns(prison applicable terminology). In some jobs, where productivity is measurable, and skilled and dedicated workers can do well enough, on a temporary basis. It does not develop and maintain the team spirit for high productivity.
On the other hand for much government work and some overstaffed private employers. How is their productivity even measured? Why would the wanker class object to self-supervision? (search for CNN and Toobing)
Space-X and Tesla have to meet production goals and timelines. On the other hand, the governing elite, depend on the wealth creation of the productive class, to keep them in a lifestyle to which they’ve become accustomed.
Now with resultant high inflation and falling living standards for the citizenry, the governing elite might find themselves navigating rough seas, ahead…perhaps, in a rowboat/life raft.
An easy solution — people should be allowed to work from home unless they work for the government. The lack of real work in the public service makes it too difficult to figure out if they are doing anything useful at home.
I think the writer of that short article “Tyler”, needs to return to his office.
The first half of the first sentence tells me he’s sitting in the same place he worked on his ninth grade school assignments.
Sorry, I always overlook typos, punctuation and capitalization now. I can’t let word usage go down the same drain hole too.
I read somewhere thst “Tyler” is multiple people.
For some industries it makes sense, there are things that can only be done in person.
About the only time I need to be in the office, is if need to print something out that is 11×17.
The rest of the time, I can work from home, or on the job site where most of my work should be.
It also saves me 2 hours per day in travel, and over 50km or wear and tear of my vehicle.
A lot depends on the job.
I have been doing consultancy work for the last 25 years or so.
Not so long ago, the customer using my services had the attitude that if they were paying me, they wanted to see my face.
Not that they did after the first five minutes, I would end up in some remote cube or office space that no-one else wanted, working on computers in a data center hundreds of miles away.
Then, about 15 years ago, the bean counters counted the beans that it was costing them for the pleasure of seeing my face for five minutes (airfare, hotel, food, car rental) and suddenly started asking if this job could be done remotely. Well, it really isn’t important where you sit to work on those remote computers. The company I was working for never allocated office space for me, because I was never there … so, work from home. Which is what I had been doing between gigs anyway.
However, it doesn’t work for everyone or every job. My guess is that Musk has looked at the results and seen a productivity hit. Done properly, it usually increases productivity. But, it doesn’t work for everyone, and some people do try to take advantage. Trying to micro-manage remotely just doesn’t work. In his place, I would probably do a reset, then slowly work out what jobs and which people this could work for, and offer it as an incentive.
I’ve been successfully working remotely since March 2020. I work 10 to 12 hours every weekday and often some weekends too. I sense that most of my colleagues work hard too. We’ve had a few slacker contractors but it’s easy to spot them when they don’t respond to Slack messages for hours.
It really very much depends upon the job and upon the work ethic of the employee. Some jobs demand in-person work – think being a vet trying to do a phone consult with a cat. Others can work from home, but the problems encountered in trying quick interactions with colleagues mean a serious productivity loss Have an offspring who much prefers being back at the office as offspring and boss are very much more productive when can informally bat ideas around with minimal formality and no notice. For some others, the family situation is such that working from home is very productive. We’ve family members in all three categories.
I mentioned the “work ethic” of the employee. At a seminar I attended, the presenter was pushing the case for management to get employees back to the office ASAP unless there were specific circumstances. It seems not all employees are that conscientious when working from home; the example given was of an employee of an oil and gas firm who, when told that the company was switching to on-site work only and that she would be expected to move, responded that she couldn’t as she had three other jobs.
work from home?
dropped by the locked up-no signage local office of yer landlord tenant tribunal seeking information on post?-covid rule changes.
their web site had no contact ph #.
the office was vacant.
iquired another gummamint office, employment train, receptionist had no idea wtf.
called the local mpp, this is all prov jurisdiction stuff. it was all news to them.
so. where are these people ‘working from home’?
mysteries of the universe.