@sunlorrie — So Maxime Bernier’s PPC, with virtually no media coverage and banned from both leaders’ debates, has more support that the Greens in many polls & could impact the election significantly in the race between the Liberals and Conservatives.
Related.
Max is now working for Trudeau by stripping support off the conservatives and guaranteeing a Liberal win.
Being blind to the effects of vote splitting must be a Mad Max supporter symptom.
Off the conservatives with their carbon tax, identity politics, gun confiscation, and vax passports.
A vote for the CPC is a vote for exactly the same policies as the LPC.
Max has exposed himself to arrest, and his platform is a real conservative platform, but sure, go ahead and vote for the vax passports.
When the Conservatives are no different that the Liberals, why does it matter who wins?
Canada is done. The corpse is just twitching.
Vote accordingly.
That didn’t make sense when some economic expert spewed it off decades ago and still not making sense.
And how accurate have those polls have been?
Not very with Trudeau throwing shit everywhere as his ego tanked his popularity.
I’m out tomorrow voting PPC in my riding and I’ve actually seen a few signs as well which is highly unusual.
What possible reason could I have for preferring the waffling focus-group-produced homonuculus, O’Toole, over the Dunning-Kruger poster children, Justin and Krysta?
Tomayto, tomahto.
The SHITCON CPC is the same as the Liberals. FFS. You are a Liberal if you vote CPC.
Yup. O’Toole’s platform is to the left of the Turd’s 2015 platform.
stewpid
Your stupid is hanging out, voting for CPC, Libtards, Greens, Bloc, are all vote to your become a state controlled slave. Vote for Max/PPC is a message to cons to rediscover conservatism
Just a fun fact.
The support the PPC is gaining are from across the political spectrum but mostly those that gave up voting.
I surmise they don’t expect miracles and know that no matter who it is or what party it is, the entire established government see’s any political party that advocates smaller government as an existential threat.
That being the case they are voting PPC not because they expect a sea change, just doing something that has the potential to drive the government establishment into a state of derangement.
It’s a chance to torment those that torment joe and Jane
For every time some progressive says we need to ban guns as a response to mom’s not wanting their neighborhood shot up by gangs with illegally obtained guns, Max gains another potential supporter.
Every time a career politician with a vintage sports car tells a working family they have to give up their minivan because climate change, and the other politicians that are supposed to oppose this nod in agreement, Max gains another potential follower.
Any of this making sense?
I get the potential for vote splitting, and the fact that if you vote liberal you get liberal.
But also consider that there is a day after the election we still have the dumpster fire started in 2015 that even if the PPC won enough seats to get a mandate, the totality of government establishment the media and the myriad collection of communists posing as protest groups obstructing them every step of the way.
Taking that into consideration you have the choice of sitting out the election or contributing to the effort of making the life of the Karen’s a living hell.
Nails it!!
Very well said. Thank you.
I surmise they don’t expect miracles
This. I’m a PPC member, I’ve donated significantly to the party, and I’ll be voting PPC on the 22nd. I have no illusions that they’ll form a government or even get a single seat given how dispersed their support is and the FPTP system. But I’ve also accepted that Canada is over and done with at this point. Since no matter who I vote for the abyss yawns anyway, I may as well vote my conscience.
Exactly.
The local Calgary Confederation MP is Len Weber (we’re beside Michelle Remple’s constituency) is a great guy, his father started Weber Academy on the west side of Calgary… I haven’t anything against him personally and see his signs here everywhere.
But the leadership of the Conservatives has taken a serious step to the left since Mr. Harper bowed out of politics. (and not selling the CBC, nor spending 2% of GDP on the military, and not canning foreign aid to those who actually are freedom’s enemies) …
They’ve become “Liberal lite” and at no point in time have I ever wanted representation which was “slightly less swarmy” than the current #Crimeminister Trudeau.
I doubt the Conservatives will miss my vote here, the PPC guy is Edward Gao and the Maverick Party has said they’re not running a candidate here.
https://www.peoplespartyofcanada.ca/edward_gao
Part of me hopes the #Libranos win and the west is so incensed by this that it galvanizes the separation movement and leads to AB/Sask. separating from the sinking ship of Old Canada with their tier 2 bullshit constitution.
An “accelerationist” perhaps… I see the end of it, bring it on.
+++++/\ Daniel
MY thoughts exactly.
Vote your conscience…you’ll sleep better too.
The “vote splitting” scare tactic is one that’s trotted out by conservative party desperadoes who know they’re in deep trouble. I don’t vote to keep or kick people out of power I vote for a candidate’s platform and if it resonates with me that’s how I’ll vote.
You’d like everyone to hold their nose and vote for someone who is barely discernible from his Liberal Party opponent. What kind of weird logic is that? In essence voting for Trotsky otherwise we’ll have another four years of Stalin knowing full well we’ll be replacing one evil bastard for another.
It’s O’Toole’s election to win but he constantly finds things that almost guarantees he won’t.
If Trudeau does win again…avoid the temptation to blame Max voters. Put the blame where it belongs.
I can remember hearing the same vote splitting bullshit in the BC elections when that Liberal crook Kristy Klark was selling out the Province to the Chinamen. Vote for Krusty the Krook they said or you’ll get the NDP. I didn’t vote for that stupid bitch, but she still won and the corruption continued and the sell out of BC continued under that vile woman and her federal Liberal comrades. The NDP wouldn’t have been any different then the corrupt BC Liberals, they’re both corrupt both Globalist, and they both hate Canadians and Canada. I will vote PPC because it is the principled vote for myself. The PPC is the only party that somewhat represents my views, the other choices are corrupt and Globalist/Totalitarian fascists. Stool would be like Ford or Kenney, fuk him !
The country is finished anyhow, the “Post Nation State” is about to be forcefully transformed into Nazi Australia, but much worse.
The curriculum vitae of the CPC candidate in my riding, suggests that she would be perfect for the NDP/Greenie parties instead.
That’s why I’m voting for PPC MAX!
Ah yes.
One of those riding associations coopted by those that missed out on getting control of the liberal riding nomination.
Funny, but the Libs have ZERO chance here. Hard core Commie, government region of Victoria, followed by Greentards.
Bullshit the CPC did that to themselves.
When you piss on libertarians and social conservatives don’t expect their support.
No, you are stupid. Vote for the PPC and shut your dumb assed mouth.
O’Toole = Trudeau but with people assuming that they’ve changed something.
The Tool will strip away freedom as fast as the Turd. They are the same. Don’t fool yourself otherwise.
You want a chance to stay free, don’t just vote for Max – Tell others to vote for him too.
“Max is now working for Trudeau by stripping support off the conservatives and guaranteeing a Liberal win.
Being blind to the effects of vote splitting must be a Mad Max supporter symptom.”
I’m okay with that. O’Toole does not deserve my support (as a dairy products consumer, an opposer of mandatory vaccinations or as a gun owner) and he won’t get it. If another Liberal minority is the result, so be it. That’s why I am voting PPC: to give them enough support that the CPC will be forced to look at the vote percentages and *know* that their policies were responsible for driving people away from them and into the arms of the PPC.
If I believed that a Liberal majority was possible, I might rethink that position…but it’s not (thankfully).
This is an election where there is no winning, only less losing.
There are no sound alternatives save the untried one.
Yes, splitting the vote is a very big risk. So is having more of the same.
This is such BS.
Voting CPC IS voting liberal.
When are you so-called “conservatives” wake up and realise that the CPC is “conservative” in name only.
Voting CPC is voting for you lost of freedom.
Can’t you see what the “Conservatives” in communist Manitoba are doing?
The only vote splitting is between the Liberals and Liberals in blue suites. Does O’Toole think he can insult and cheat his core support and expect them to bleatingly follow him?
Why would I waste my vote on the CPC when the projected election results look like a dog’s breakfast of minority side deals and excessive spending?
Even if I didn’t like the PPC’s policies (and I do, very much), I’d still vote for Max, just to make a statement.
Enjoy another four years of Trudeau.
Enjoy your vax passports and gun confiscation.
Because it will be sunshine and lollypops with Prime Minister O’Toole?
Otoole will carry on with all the same policies.
Liz, has it occurred to you that the PPC is the only national party pushing conservative “values” and that you stubborn O’Toole supporters are now the ones splitting the “conservative” vote? Hmmm?
As I stated here last week, I would rather support a French Conservative leader who battles the ‘elites’ and their media whores than support an English fake-Conservative who’s main goal is apparently to be accepted by these lowlifes.
If there were no PPC, I would spoil my ballot before supporting that cuck.
“ I would rather support a French Conservative leader who battles the ‘elites’ and their media whores than support an English fake-Conservative who’s main goal is apparently to be accepted by these lowlifes.”
Yes the potential for confrontation is there. The other point is that just the thought of the PPC winning even one seat upsets them.
And not just a little.
It’s the Trump principle
It’s not about the candidate, it’s about how his presence on the political field drives them to the levels of torment they subject the makers to.
I would like to stand up for Liz J as I always enjoy her posts and she has a right to be wrong.
Agreed, Robert of Ottawa. Always enjoy Liz J’s insights.
Her point is valid, the vote will be split.
The result of this will most likely be another Turdhole Government.
It is a dilemma.
I blame the fukkers that vote for a corrupt globalist fascist Government led by a psychopathic imbecile, not the “vote splitting.
Everyones entitled to their opinion, for now.
Liz how you vote is your business. But with the CPC you have exactly the same Policies as the Liberals. So if you vote SHITCON CPC you are a Liberal.
Harper was a SHITCON LIBERAL GLOBALIST. He left us with 4.1 Trillion in Debt. SHIT LIB Trudeau added another 2T or more.
Harpers Debt as of 2014. Who was PM in 2014 Liz?
https://torontosun.com/2014/04/11/all-levels-of-canadian-government-debt-total-41-trillion
Lizzard, you and the rest of the never Maxxers are part of the problem, if you had voted PPC lsat time, we may not have had O’Stool this time around. So please post your shoe size, so we will know your IQ!
Enjoy your climate change worship and WOKENESS from the CPC
As you would with O’Toole.
Yes, O’Toole MIGHT unseat Justin. For a brief time, it would be emotionally satisfying watching Justin cry and lash out against the electorate.
Then we would get Justin’s policies but with a different face.
I haven’t voted since 2003, because I recognized way back then that Canada was a lost cause,
But this time around, I’m going to go out and make an effort to vote PPC. It’s a hail-Mary, but at least for once, I have the ability to vote my conscience instead of constantly having to hold my nose.
The days of nose-holding are over!
Liz J, Let’s look at it another way, if Jagmeet Singh decided to reduce the size of government, bring in school vouchers, privatize healthcare, what would you think of him and his supporters?
“Even if I didn’t like the PPC’s policies (and I do, very much), I’d still vote for Max, just to make a statement.”
Me too. I’m hoping that enough people do the same to at least get him a 4-8% share of the vote (maybe even one seat). Just enough that the CPC sits up and takes notice of him, and maybe even enough that they hold the Liberals to a minority; anything to get the point across that *real* conservatives are not impressed by O’Toole and his liberal ways.
I would wish for a Conservative minority, but a Liberal minority might take out both party leaders and allow the CPC to elect someone more conservative (I can dream, right?..;).
“Coulda Had Max”
Shoulda supported electoral reform.
Which nation can you honestly point to as a glowing successful model for changes to our electoral system? Serious question, because from what I’ve been able to surmise from myriad Euro zone examples, it doesn’t work.
This. PR means eternal minority parliaments beholden to the extremist fringe parties.
If you consider the PPC a “fringe party,” then PR all the way! We need a voice in government to oppose the totalitarian parties that constantly monopolize the debate with their echo chamber. I’m done with that. I used to think endless minorities was going to be non-productive, but with 5 parties spouting the same leftist garbage, I think I’d prefer a little gridlock to paralyze the progressive agenda. Having the PPC in the mix probably won’t stop their woke agendas, but it just might slow it down just enough for the rest of the weasels to start paying attention.
I say do as the South Koreans do: give the leader a ONE five-year shot to ruin the country before he retires and writes a book.
ANYTHING but Justin ad nauseaum.
Yeah, right, are you THAT THICK?
PR would give us a far left Liberal/NDP/Greenie/Bloq coalition in perpetuity!
FOAD, nimrod!
““Coulda Had Max”
Shoulda supported electoral reform.”
Are you talking to Trudeau? I doubt that he reads this blog…
By “electoral reform” do you mean doing something about AB & BC having 130k-140k citizens represented by an MP, and the intergenerational welfare basket case of PEI having 40k citizens represented by an MP?
Their vote is worth 1/40,000 and my vote is worth 1/140,000. That’s well short of everyone’s vote being equal. I shouldn’t be surprised that bullshit tier 2 Old Canada doesn’t have an actual functioning democracy of my vote = your vote.
Then compare the rates of representation in the Senate.
It’s even worse than the House of Commons.
If we already have representation by population, then switch the Senate to representation by province, and have each province represented by the same number of Senators as all the others. PEI won’t go along with that? Perhaps PEI should be a part of N.S. as they don’t seem to be able to function without their gov’t taking 20% of their gov’t tax revenue from actual producing provinces.
Or did you mean change the “first past the post” system, which has served most democracies quite well, more so when people have representation by population?
It’s not like Canada doesn’t have a national census every 10 years which takes about 1 month to do simply a head count to know how many MP’s each province should have.
Our constitution really is a piece of shit. The people who wrote it deserve to have their shitty statues torn down.
First past the post offers the only chance of kicking the bums out. With any kind of PR, even if Trudeau lost his seat, he would still be in parliamenet (as much as he ever is) and leader of the Libs.
Not even a question, I’m voting PPC, I don’t care about “Splitting the vote” the so called Conservatives need to be taught a lesson. Even if the O Toole gets in, he will be just as bad as Trudeau
No one could be worse than the Trudeau Liberals. Vote PPC and you are going to get four more years of Trudeau.
No one could be worse than Trump.
Now, look where that mindset got America, so please reconsider your logic and POV.
So, as an unvaccinated person, I should show up to the polls and vote myself into second class citizenship?? How stupid would I have to be to do that?
I’m debating between sitting it out or voting PPC.
If I do vote PPC, the day after the election the “think-tank” that drives the conservatives will have a cold hard number to choke down with their morning coffee. THAT might be the best message I could possibly send to them.
Yes it is Kelly. Get out and vote PPC for that very reason.
No one else is speaking for us, Trudoper is our confirmed and sworn enemy, OFool is a classic SQUISH and will turn on anyone, as squishes do.
Very well said, Kelly.
Kelly.
My thinking as well.
I was leaning on Maverick – and I am100% in favour of INDEPENDANCE from the clutches of EASTERN Oligarchs who control & de-Facto RUN this criminal Organization AKA: KAnada…but I’ve always liked Max Bernier- I gave him a shot in 2015 to no avail of course. BUT his ideas and platform have NOT changed and that speaks volumes to me.
PPC Will have our 2 votes in Calgary Midnapore (I think thats the riding..?)
The CPC have IMO, been bought n paid for decades ago – the Firing of Dereck Sloan pissed me off as did the scam surrounding Scheer at Bernier getting SCREWED during Scheer’s campaign for leader….and O’STOOL is 100% Globalist GARBAGE
LIBERALS the lot
And the way Sheer treated Dr. Salim Mansur. That was actually my turning point.
“Vote PPC and you are going to get four more years of Trudeau.”
Hey, Liz J, are you stoned or just stupid? Please explain how. Before you do, get someone to read the PPC platform, to you. By they way they have never flip-flopped on one of their platform promises since the inception of the PPC.
P.S.
Do you work for the CPC or elections Canada?
The CPC supports the carbon tax, vax passports, identity politics and gun confiscation. They ARE exactly the same as the LPC.
PPC gets my vote.
A little less graft, perhaps? Tories have the best chance to unseat Le Dauphin Ponce and his Gang of Gallic Grifters (Triple G). That’s all that matters this time ‘round. Once that’s done it’s knives out for O’Toole, if you wish. Seriously, this is the last chance to avoid Venezuela North, or at the very least, Argentina.
No, what matters is what policies are imposed on Canadians. The difference between you and I is that I will not vote for a candidate who will impose those policies, while you will.
Since you’re pretending to be more principled than the rest, here’s a principle for you: survival. Or avoiding financial ruin and chaos. Banning gun regulations, mask mandates, etc. are important but not as important as avoiding a ‘failed state’ economy or mass civil unrest. Our country is in the grips of a cult leader and his crooked, unethical bandit followers. The need to supplant him takes precedence over the fact that OToole isn’t right-wing enough for some. If you live in a safe Tory riding, go ahead and vote PPC/Maverick, which I would also do. If you’re unsure and ESPECIALLY if you live in a contested riding, ‘vote the bums out‘ the most important power you exercise in a western democracy, as Karl Popper would have it.
PS – are you always this charming?
Go ahead and vote for vax passports, just don’t expect any respect from me.
“A little less graft, perhaps? Tories have the best chance to unseat Le Dauphin Ponce and his Gang of Gallic Grifters (Triple G). That’s all that matters this time ‘round. Once that’s done it’s knives out for O’Toole, if you wish. ”
That’s why I’m hoping that the PPC takes enough CPC votes to cause another Liberal minority, which would hopefully be the end of both Trudeau *and* O’Toole as party leaders. Hopefully.
“The CPC supports the carbon tax, vax passports, identity politics and gun confiscation. They ARE exactly the same as the LPC.
PPC gets my vote.”
My thoughts exactly. If I wanted a Liberal PM, I would vote for a Liberal candidate. The ‘Progressive’ Conservatives died for good reason. O’Toole thinks he can bring them back…he is wrong.
If only our Canadian news media would give Bernier a fair shake. I single-handedly (and accidentally) got comments closed on the CBC story about him being ‘egged’ by a protester while allowing him a ‘selfie’. They refused to identify him or why no charges were laid, so I got curious and started searching. Sadly, I had to go to an American news site to find the truth: his name was ‘Timothy 8243xxx (Twitter) and his handle was *Native Warrior*. The selfie even showed him, headband, braids and all.
Why couldn’t I get that information from the CBC, I wonder? And why did they ‘disable’ all three of my comments then CLOSE commenting after only one day and 1500 posts? Shameful.
Can you imagine the huge outcry if this same guy did this to Trudeau, instead of Bernier??
I’d really like to see a poll on how firm the PPC vote is. On Twitter and forums like this it always sounds hardcore, but I can’t tell if that’s 2% of Max’s 10% poll number, or all of the 10%.
How many are just parked conservative votes, that on election night will break for OToole and allow him to form a government?
I’d really like to know.
10 could be an outlier number, but he has been 6 to 7 consistently.
More than the Greentards, who get far too much attention, and equal to the Bloqheads.
Max is now a presence, thanks to Trudeau turning into a demagogue/despot, and Squish OFool.
Its a pain to digest that folk will actually vote for vax passports, gun confiscation, identity politics and a carbon tax on the off chance that they’ll let you whine about them online, just because it ain’t the Turd implementing them…and people wonder how Hitler was voted in.
VOWG is right about Canadians.
I am at the point that I don’t care about the outcome on September 20…we are a lost country, totally ignored by the Ottawa elite.
For that reason, and others, I will vote PPC because I will have a clear conscience. It is the only platform standing up for my values and liberty.
Concur.
The day after Election Day everyone will be shocked to discover we are still in a crisis.
The established government will be all in on making more rules, raising taxes, limiting rights “just to be safe”, but if anyone even suggests a reduction in government they will be made the enemy of the state.
The silver lining as you alluded to is that this level of stupid is not financially sustainable.
We burned through the tax base.
Exceeded the credit limit.
Now we have the BoC printing funny money on the hope that interest rates stay where they are.
The end result is that every one gets to be equal ….. equally poor that is, except for the pigs.
Agreed.
I will also add that the only vote splitting that is actually happening is the CPC splitting the Liberal vote.
I sent off an email to my MP (Dane Lloyd) early this morning informing him that I could not, in good conscience, cast a vote for the current Conservative Party. This is the first time that I will not be voting and I do not feel good about it but there is no way that I can support the platform. Canadian’s are in for a world of hurt.
I don’t know what I’m going to do. I’m in a guaranteed Conservative win ED. I told my Conservative MP this spring I wasn’t going to vote Liberal Lite and their platform has only moved further left. Ain’t voting for the Dippers or the Greenies. Maverick isn’t running a candidate in my ED. I simply cannot vote for another leader from central Canada, PPC is out. I’ve considered throwing the Libs a protest vote in the hopes that if enough of us do it’ll will scare the hell out of the Conservative.
Realistically, for the first time in my life, I may just go spoil my vote with a nasty comment.
I understand exactly where you are coming from, DB.
Personally, I have really struggled to put aside my bigotries against Eastern politicians(ever since they destroyed the Reform movement) but have finally come to terms with it. The fact Bernier stands against the leftist mob and media where no other national leader will is the deciding factor for me. He will not become leader, so a vote for any of his candidates represents a clear FU to both the leftist cabal and the CPC, IMO. My vote for the PPC in this riding, in reality may be just a protest vote, but one with a clear message.
In a way, this is our chance to use one of ‘them’, for a change.
“He will not become leader, so a vote for any of his candidates represents a clear FU to both the leftist cabal and the CPC, IMO.”
Hey, CO:
I can’t disagree. My concern with a protest vote for PPC is the possibility it will only encourage the CPC to move even further left. Hence my consideration of a Lib protest vote. If you draw a hard line on their left they have only one direction to go.
“I can’t disagree. My concern with a protest vote for PPC is the possibility it will only encourage the CPC to move even further left. ”
I’m sorry…what? They can’t go further left…that’s Liberal territory. They’ve already been trying, but it’s not working.
I simply cannot vote for another leader from central Canada, PPC is out
I’m all in for the PPC, but I understand your reluctance. There’s no point in me saying “have you looked at his policy platform re the West” because who the hell knows what he’ll do if he actually gets a seat.
I may just go spoil my vote
I do wish federal elections allowed one to decline the ballot, the way Ontario elections do.
“have you looked at his policy platform re the West”
The platform is very appealing, by far the most attractive. However, I’m no longer remotely interested in Alberta staying in Canuckistan. Sure, Max could be the next best thing to sliced bread for the west. What happens 4 years, 8 years down the road when PPC loses? Same old, same old: BOHICA. Nobody stays in power forever, not even Alberta “conservatives”.
“I do wish federal elections allowed one to decline the ballot, the way Ontario elections do.”
I wasn’t aware of that. Interesting.
I concur with the comments as well. Max won’t be PM this time round, voting for him is a stick in the eye of the establishment, and, will bring him on the threshold of funding for the party, to further be a PITA to all, especially the CINO party.
I agree about Quebec politicians and their history, but, he’s a good choice for the reasons stated.
If you haven’t been jabbed, and won’t do it, Max is a mandatory vote. He’s our voice, this time round.
“A vote against vax passports, gun confiscation, identity politics and carbon taxes is a vote for the LPC!”
-the brainwashed minds of CPC voters.
Maverick is the only alternative on the right with a brain. The PPC is a clown show, and I was a huge Max supporter back in the day.
UnDork
Butt you were as stewpid back in the day as you are forward in the day.
As to Max, he is an unproven quality, but O’Stool and the Turd, are proven unCanadians
Has it ever occurred to the vote-splitter advocates here that the best possible scenario that could come out of this election is a minority government of CPCs backed by a number of seats of PPCs. If this were to occur Max would be in the driver’s seat. As it is at the moment the Liberals have had a ride backed by the Dippers and the Greenies, do we really want this to continue. If the PPC get enough votes that bleed from both the LPC and the CPC then perhaps we will start to see our way out of this quagmire that has engulfed us for the last six years. Harper made a mistake when he united the Reform and the PCs in an effort to unite the right. We don’t need the right to unite we need the right to stand up for what made this country what it once was, not what socialists and communists think that they can make it. Read the PPC platform spread it around your relatives and friends, if you don’t agree with most of the agenda then take your vote elsewhere, but most thinking Canadians will see the wisdom within the platform rather than the pixie dust and unicorn farts espoused by the other parties.
https://www.peoplespartyofcanada.ca/platform
We start to save the world by saving ourselves before we even consider saving the anyone else. Saving ourselves starts by becoming self-reliant and independent, that means eliminating poverty, hunger and homelessness here in Canada before we spend our money in overseas countries that are diametrically opposed to our beliefs and way of life.
I’d be guessing LPC / NDP would go together ahead of the CPC even if CPC had more seats and if CPC needed to, they’d go with LPC or NDP ahead of PPC. No way CPC holds hands with PPC. Look for a Trudeau – O’Toole embrace with lip lock before that event.
An NDP/Lib coalition has interesting implications.
If the Libs finish second, but try this, to govern, it would be the first step in their self-destruction. Jughead would demand Dipper cabinet positions. Backbench Libs would be pissed at being bypassed.
Mutiny!
That would be a welcome sight! Beer and popcorn!
“that means eliminating poverty, hunger and homelessness here in Canada before we spend our money in overseas countries that are diametrically opposed to our beliefs and way of life.”
So socialism here then socialism abroad?
The Green leader has promised everything but world peace. Maybe that’s next week.
I want an Ohmpahloompha
I got one.
She’s a little purple bastard.
And they come in packs.
A Steve
Speaking from an Alberta perspective, that’s all well and fine, Antenor, but what if Max turns out to be exactly like every other MF’ing politician that has ever come out of central Canada, large-c Conservatives included ? My whole life I’ve been screwed over by both sides of the spectrum. I don’t trust politicians at the best of times and to ask me to vote one more time for one more central Canadian is something I simply cannot do.
Personally, WEXIT is the only solution out of this mess and, as I noted above, Maverick doesn’t have a candidate in my ED.
…so you’ve considered throwing a protest vote to the LPC before throwing it to the PPC?
Your sobriquet does you justice.
Fuck you. And the hat you’re wearing and the horse you rode in on.
YeahWell spends his time admonishing folks on this (& probably other) sites for their lack of ideological purity. He’s just a c**t. Ignore him and the other trolls.
Yeah. My “ideological purity” is an expression of the fact I don’t wanna be banned from most of Canada, pay ruinous carbon taxes, etc, but assholes like you don’t seem to care about vax passports or anything else. You’re like doctors saying the only way to save the patient is to kill him.
I am voting Maverick. We not only have a candidate in Calgary Glenmore but we have a good candidate deserving of support far more than our CPC MP who has been missing in action ever since he was elected. He now apparently supports a carbon tax, gun confiscation, vaccine passports, and no pipelines, so not sure why I am expected to endorse that by voting for him.
It is funny to me how the CPC partisans never actually explain why anyone should vote for the CPC other than ‘Trudeau is worse’. This line of thinking is exactly why the CPC is such a clown show in the first place. In any case, voting for the lesser of two evils still gets you evil.
Maverick has some good candidates and good plans. They’ve said some dumb stuff too and their name is pretty dumb, but they simply beat the competition.
Conur
Max could be no better or worse.
The point is that (and as a WEXIT supporter you get this) the country is on its way to failed state.
So, what would be the equivalent of sending a massive FU to Ottawa?
Electing one MP
Don’t care if it’s a Maverick or PPC.
But all the vitriol that they are sure to attract from our betters will be instructive to the ones they look down on as deplorables.
Or as Gretzky once said
“They hate us, and they don’t want us to win”
Remember that Max is from the Beauce, one of the most conservative parts of the entire country, the Alberta of Quebec one could say. 338Canada has the vote projection in Max’s riding as of Sept. 8 at:
CPC: 39%
PPC: 36%
BQ: 10%
LPC: 9.5%
NDP: 3,4%
GPC: 1.3%
If you can find another riding from Winnipeg eastward where the Libs are polling at less than 10% I’d be very surprised. In other words Max is definitely not your typical Central Canadian politician from a typical Central Canadian riding, he’s the (honorary) Albertan from Quebec and a real deal conservative.
Like you I would vote Maverick but, alas, there is no Mav candidate in my riding, so tomorrow on the first day of early voting I will be voting for the next best thing, the PPC.
“Like you I would vote Maverick but, alas, there is no Mav candidate in my riding, so tomorrow on the first day of early voting I will be voting for the next best thing, the PPC.”
Same here. I’m happy just to have a PPC candidate in Vancouver-Granville. Maverick would be my first choice too. but there just aren’t enough candidates yet.
People castigate Bernier for being from Quebec, but he is the *only* federal party leader to my knowledge that would stand up to the Quebec dairy cartel. That and his libertarian leanings are enough for me.
The fact he is from Eastern Canada has ZERO bearing on My Decision to Vote PPC….
ITS the PLATFORM….Ola.??
End Monopolies: Dairy – Air Travel – Digital Comm
Destroy the Gun control BS and maybe we might see something far far better- He is the only one not fearing Canadians with Legal Weaponry.
Annihilate the COVID Bullshit SCAM once and for all….
Make it Illegal for any Govt to provide Financing for MEDIA of ANY Kind.
Push the Pipelines through…all of them.
…and many more COMMON Fking Sense ideas that a REAL Canadian CONSERVATIVE can appreciate, understand and fervently accept….& VOTE for.
The Rest of the Field..?? Communists – Terrorists – Islamofascists – Criminals- and a few Quebec NAZI’s thrown in just fer shits ngiggles.
Disgusting Treasonous FILTH the lot.
I think the Cons are slightly preferable to the Libs for two reasons:
1. We would at last be done with the sweaty palmed wokester, Trudeau.
2. Although he got backed into a corner on the gun issue (own goal), I don’t think we’d see any further confiscations under O’Toole.
My advice is if it’s a close, competitive race in your riding vote Con. If not (as in my riding) vote PPC to send the Cons a message.
Angry purists will not like this advice and I fully understand why. I have the luxury of voting my conscience without indirectly supporting the Liberals and I know that many of you don’t.
Exactly!
Get rid of Trudeau and Butt-head first. Only vote PPC in ridings where it does not matter for seats!
“The Green leader has promised everything but world peace.”
My God, she’s ugly! And annoying as the woodchuck.
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Courageously speaking out against tyranny
the People’s Party of Canada
Just Right 723 – September 9, 2021
Speaking truth to power takes courage. And that courage was in full display at the People’s Party of Canada’s (PPC) ‘Ice Cream Rally’ held in Basil Grover Park in London Ontario where those speaking out against the pandemic of fascism included the London-area PPC candidates Kyle Free, Marc Emery, and Mike McMullen.
At the same August 31 event, also speaking out against tyranny were University of Western Ontario student Hannah Salamon-Vegh, Church of God Pastor Herbert Hildebrand, and Kristen Nagle, the registered nurse who was fired for objecting to the ‘Covid vaccination’ for children. It should not be surprising that these people of principle should be found in the PPC camp.
As Canada’s only federal party on the Right (where freedom is to be found), the PPC is the only party opposing the Covid lockdowns, censorship, mask mandates, and above all, forced ‘vaccinations.’ These are fascist policies so evil to their core that it boggles the imagination that Liberals, Conservatives, New Democrats, and Greens are in full support of them. Together, these parties have established a tyranny unlike anything ever experienced in Canadian history.
When our interview last week with New Brunswick PPC candidate Jack Minor was removed from our YouTube channel, Just Right Media was also served with a notice (and penalty) informing us that we had violated the platform’s ‘Community Guidelines.’ Those guidelines explicitly prohibit any discussion opposing any fascist narratives about ‘Covid-19 vaccinations’ being spouted by the World Health Organization.
All forms of censorship are prohibitions against truth. That everyone from the World Health Organization to all of Canada’s political parties sitting in parliament should so fear the message of the PPC is a testament to the hidden power of truth and to the depth of their fear. Unable to persuade, they resort to the use of force, as collectivists of every age and time have repeatedly demonstrated.
With all of Canada’s parties in parliament sitting squarely on the tyrannical Left, the PPC is Canada’s only political party whose principles of ‘freedom, responsibility, fairness, and respect’ provide its candidates and leader Maxime Bernier with the values and courage to speak out against tyranny.
It’s now up to Canadian voters to muster their own courage and stop voting for the ‘lesser of evils’ by supporting the only political option they know to be Just Right – the PPC.
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My local Conservative candidate champions immigration as a benefit to the country. What about paying for those benefits at the expense of we who have lived here all our lives ? What about jobs for us, our kids, for our grand kids ? I can tell by the number of names approving her position which group she is appealing to.
See, they’re indistinguishable from the people criticizing them (see my post below). Psychotic…
“What about paying for those benefits at the expense of we who have lived here all our lives ?”
The immigrants are the ones paying. They’re keeping this country afloat.
“What about jobs for us, our kids, for our grand kids ?”
Immigration is greatest job generator we’ve got.
A huge plus for Canada is that mass immigration has won the war. It is politically untenable to oppose it at least outside of Quebec. Just cranky white boomers booming and dying.
Omar, you parasitic twat, you got $10M for throwing a grenade – can’t you think of something more creative to do with that money, starting with English lessons?
As long as the Spawn doesn’t get his majority, he will be removed and we will be no worse off than if O’Toole were the NDP policy-stealing PM (being shat upon by his beloved media). Real conservatives have O’Toole’s piss all over them so the only dignified thing to do is send him a message that could cause some anxiety. The media is working at peeling off NDP support for their desperate boss to prevent the Conservatives from winning a hopelessly unstable minority government. The Greens, having lost all their criminally insane policies to the NDP, Liberals, and CPC are now fading into oblivion.
All the above rancour and overarching certainty aside – I think we’re fucked no matter what. Here’s just one example of the kind of thing the leftards are willing to do in their endless campaign of disinformation and general swinishness: they turned this into this.
Here is a list of their member groups and another of signatories to their petition. Eight million fucking Canadians, and remember this is just one umbrella org I found in a minute of searching, believe all migrants should be granted full status with all attendant benefits. And even the most cursory glance at the names of the member groups make it clear they’re Marxists with the same agenda as Marxist groups all through the western world.
Guys, face it: we’re fucked. The KGB started the work more than half a century ago, and the media, academics, public schools, and NGOs finished it. As someone put it recently, “The NPCs want The Decline. They want to live in a dystopia. They want to be slaves. You can’t stop this.” So with that in mind, I’m going to exercise my right to vote for Max and then after Trudeau gets back in say fuck it, I’m done and good luck to us all. Maybe we’ll end up like the Russians, drunk (or rather drunker than we already are) and miserable, but the momentum is clearly overwhelming. Not going to spend the rest of my days agonizing over The Decline.
P.S. Fuck, eh? 🙁
P.P.S. Spam trap or whatever won’t let my first link work, anyway it’s the news story linked from the NGO’s top page.
” believe all migrants should be granted full status with all attendant benefits.”
And the problem is…? Where the hell did slavery come into this?
You wouldn’t understand, being a slave from birth. You have to have spent time being free to appreciate it, dumbfuck. You’re welcome.
This is good news! The CBC should shake down Justin for more … stuff. And consultants, they need more printer supplies. Ontario needs a big spending announcement. Big borrowing today means more money on the gravy train!
I’m voting PPC until such a time as Poilievre becomes leader and the CPC becomes an actual Conservative party again. If ever.
Interestingly, I live in the rural outskirts of a wealthy southern Ontario city. Most of the properties on my concession road are now “horse farm” types, if you know what I mean. Sign count on my drive to work this morning ?
CPC – 1
LPC – 1
GRN – 1
PPC – 4
all at some of the nicest houses and largest “estates” I think Flippin O’Fool might have alienated a lot more supporters, and important donors, than the CPC “brain trust” realizes.
Opposition Pete Poilievre said he wasn’t interested in leading a fake conservative party. He remains a centrist.
The lure of “conservative” in a party’s name really attracts suckers.
Woulda had Trudeau.
That might change.
Reality check.
Time to unite the right.
“For that reason, and others, I will vote PPC because I will have a clear conscience. It is the only platform standing up for my values and liberty”
True, bluetech at 11:24. And a valid reason in the “other” category is that just saying that you’re going do do so gives yellow-bellied scheer-suckers and panty-waisted tool-dabblers shit hemorrhages.
Agreed. Bernier is consistent and clear. Grounded in principled conservative values, whatever his faults or historical foibles. So are our local PPC candidates. I’ve heard ours speak locally, and they’re the real deal. CPC bedwetters (particularly out-of-touch urbanites) need to stop worrying about this “a vote for Max is a vote for Trudeau” bullshit. Vote for the candidate and party that resonates in your heart. Stop trying to be a clever dick.
As an unvaccinated, bike shop owner and free thinker opposed to government overreach through vaccine passport mandates, I’m voting PPC. More and more people are waking up to the medical tyranny and don’t be surprised when the PPC get more seats than you think!
Bonnie…I FERVENTLY hope you are Correct
The Numbers of Utterly Vacuous Morons driving with masks on or riding their bikes with masks on…leaves me feeling completely Depressed when I think – these ignorant fkers are actually gonna vote.
The Face Diaper mandate has been on since Sat here in Albertastan – As such, I’ve been to at least 7 different places for various items – Surprisingly, no one has said BOO to me as I walk in MASKLESS…that in itself is somewhat spiritually uplifting…!!
Its MAX for me and the Boss.
If I were the Tory incumbent in a southern Manitba riding right now, I’d be dusting off my resume. A strong showing by the PPC would not only send a clear message to Ottawa, but would also serve to put the fear of God into provincial MLAs from constituencies in these areas.
Going with Max again here. Was going to vote Maverick as I am a western separatist but their environment policy could have been copied from the many leftist parties. I want zero climate change bullshit. I emailed them regarding that but am awaiting reply. Max has gone to jail for what is right and that is what leadership looks like. Canuckistan is done anyways. Here in the lakeland riding the incumbent con won 87% of the vote last time so it is unlikely that she will lose.
Bang on ajl…!!
” I want zero climate change bullshit.”
Well, too bad because it’s reality and you either address it cogently or get paved over. You get an inch of asphalt.
We’ve been addressing it cogently for a very long time and been vilified for it by tyrant wannabes the whole time, you fucking grenade-throwing terrorist asswipe. Have you been in a coma for the last 15 years? Shitbag…
” I want zero climate change bullshit.”
Well, too bad because it’s reality and you either address it cogently or get paved over. You get an inch of asphalt.”
The reality is that climate change is normal, natural and *unchangeable*. The climate has been changing ever since the Earth was formed…sometimes slowly, sometimes quickly, but it is always changing.
Some people with vested interests in selling the “climate crisis” are trying to convince us all that the warming and/or cooling and storms/lack of storms we have been seeing for the past couple of decades are the direct result of “greenhouse gases” emitted by humans. The only point of contention is HOW MUCH of this recently change might be attributable to us (if any): a small amount, or a tiny amount?
“What have you got to lose?” Remember when POTUS Trump said those words?
We need someone who’ll hold Trudeau’s feet to the fire for the destruction of the Country. Do we want a government that’ll take us to the depth of a totalitarian Communist regime?
Think about it. Max has the most political experience of them all. The other candidates never even held a portfolio in government.
The mall in ballots should still bug us. Ultimately that evil man Justin Trudeau will win. You know he will.
In a funk, I’ve had my say.
Choose your vote wisely, folks.
Maverick and Wexit supporters, to coin a phrase, “Give Your Head a Shake!” Any western separation would take a generation to run it through the legal process. Just look at how long the Brexit process took. The lawyers would have their grandchildren working on the case.
Sure if you do not want Independence to happen,your way will be great…
Does not matter who wins,Canada is done.
I challenge anyone to explain,how we can pay the current debt and support the parasitic overload..?
Any idea?
Maths is not hard.
We are broke.
We owe more than we own.
And we keep shrinking our income.
We keep increasing our spending.
We be a post national basketcase.
There is a mass of Canadians who do not vote,if any movement can get their attention, the current scumbags can be wiped off the electoral map.Last I looked 35% of eligible voters don’t, another percentage vote insane candidates just to register their contempt.
Any group getting 40% of the vote seems to get majority government in this mess.
I will vote max,because this is the only party coming close to my beliefs.
The Progressive Uni-Party have all shown us their inner Nazi,or is that Vaxi?,these last 2 years.
None of them are fit to be a dogcatcher.
PPC for freedom and FU..
A very satisfying voting choice.
If I can’t have none of the above,with the condition all those candidates beaten by N.O.T.A,must abstain from politics for at least a decade..Then Mad Max is the next best thing.
Or are you Crusted On Con supporters blind to the fact,we be at war?
These effete Elites have attacked.
They boast of their “benevolence”.
You planning on rolling over or standing up?
Does not matter which branch of the current kleptocracy “wins” the election,the country is dead and rotting apart.
No amount of wishful thinking will restore what our easter Urban Comrades neither desire or respect.
An victory by outsiders might save the confederation.
But I doubt it.
Too many takers.
Too many frightened Gullibles.
I really want to ask the degenerates who vote for Max: are you hell-bent on presenting another term to libs?
That shill must be on JT’s payroll. He is doing everything that JT could possibly dream of, and he goes above and beyond, by diluting conservative voter base and making sure they lose. Uneffinbelievable how stupid con voters are!
Sure. Whatever.
Now stamp your feet. Feel better now?
As one such degenerate, I assure you that even if us degenerates lost our ethical and moral fibre, selling out principles for the illusion of conservative power, and supported the red Tories, O’Toole would hold an unstable minority government either beholden to the other leftists in power or to be defeated upon the first vote on substantive issues. His ‘government will inherit a bankrupt nation with 2/3 of the population against him along with 99% of the media, cultural elites, academia, and bureaucracy regardless of how much further to the left he bends if that is possible.
Voting your principles will give LPC another minority and allow them to proceed with gun ban/buyback.
You have just made so many friends, Einstein. Those like you will be in my crosshairs as soon as SHTF, with gratitude.
You want the unvaxxed to vote for a candidate who promises to make them second-class citizens, and thank you for it. If vax passports become a reality, I’m sure those like you will be in may people’s crosshairs.
“Voting your principles will give LPC another minority and allow them to proceed with gun ban/buyback.”
Not if it’s a small enough minority.
The only vote-splitting going on is the CPC splitting the liberal vote.
Yeah sure, lurker troll.
Go Woke and vote CPC, where you can be just like a LIEberal!
In my riding, it is 3x times LPC to CPC. I no longer vote cause it is not possible to outvote India. That ship had sailed.
Piss off then, NPC troll fuckwit. If you don’t care, what are you even doing here?
Trudeau wants to bone everyone in the rear. O’Toole promises the same but with a condom. Since I have a latex allergy, I’m voting PPC.
I think where you’re located makes a difference.
My riding is as left as UnMe’s arsehole is huge.
There is no Libertarian running for me.
The fight is always between Libranos and NDP.
Last time I voted NDP against the Big C McKenna because, well duh, but she won with 48%…
The Con couldn’t win if they paid everyone to vote for them.
I don’t vote for K-becers – ever!!!
BUT, there is one of Max’s Numptys running…
I’ll probably vote for the Animal Protection Party or spoil my ballot with a big “Juthtin’s a C**t!”
“My riding is as left as UnMe’s arsehole is huge.”
I’m damn lucky I wasn’t drinking anything when I read that line.
I was kinda hoping you were going to say you were coming around to voting PPC, but now, I kinda find myself cheering for “Juthtin’s a C**t!”.
You should really just come out of the closet already.
Only if your Mom is offering up Sloppy Seconds.
…says the pedo medic-killer from Afghanistan.
You’re lucky in Ottawa-Center, Buddy, I’m in Ottawa-Vanier.
Jesus…
O’Toole has made the Conservative party tent too small. Left outside are the libertarian types who love liberty and yearn for smaller, less intrusive government. The policies of the mainstream parties are not sustainable, except by the imposition of tyranny.
The ‘tent model’ does not work for parties. Do you really think the Liberals under Trudeau or any of their winning leaders has been a ‘tent’? Coalitions are one things but tents are for circuses.
“Left outside are the libertarian types who love liberty and yearn for smaller, less intrusive government.”
Conservatives of all stripes have made clear they hate liberty and love larger, more intrusive government as long as it stomps on the face of people they don’t approve of. The trends of the past quarter century are clear that conservatives of all stripes are getting buried.
Quite so, I moved from the left to Libertarian philosophically, which puts me in the same camp as Conservatives for the most part. And I support “social conservatives” in their various causes because I agree with them or at least their right to express them, and not be shut out and put down like leprous dogs.
In my riding of Brandon-Souris in MB, my so-called Conservative MP, Larry McGuire’s, reply to any email is, basically, I have had the vaccine. Shut up and take the vaccine.
Sorry Larry, you and Bill Gates are not getting my vote this time. PPC it is.
By the way, I was able to stand beside 4000+ PPC supporters in Winkler Mb on Sept. 7 to hear a speech from Maxime Bernier & others. PPC is The ONLY party that is opposed to vaxx passports, mandatory masks and supports personal freedoms and rights.
Oh, for informational purposes if you want to make fancy-smancy bilingual signs, NON AU PASSE SANITAIRE says it all in French.
The REAL issue isn’t humoring the PPC idiot show but what happens after Trudeau fails to get a majority (or perhaps even re-elected!). PM Carney if the former, but I don’t think he’s down for anything but a coronation so if the Liberals really screw up and lose power they might REALLY lose everything no Carney to the rescue. In that case…they’re pretty wide open…no reason not to help them decide their leader…
…and that’ the real pro move: finding a Liberal leader of the blue, neo-liberal persuasion and imposing them onto the BRM.
Well what do you know: it seems there are at least three people posting under this name, including one who likes pretending to be one of the other two. This one seems to actually have some ideas about Canadian politics, whereas the original one never went above one or at most two sentences of simple-minded gainsaying. Sort of interesting from an abnormal psych perspective.