Telling us what we already knew…

Unsettled Science Wuhan Flu 65 Comments

Since the Daily Mail is hardly a publication known for conspiracy theories, it may be harder for the rest of the mainstream media to dismiss these findings regarding common surgical masks.

The blue, cloth surgical masks that have become popular during the pandemic were found be only 10 percent effective as it does not cover the face properly.

As the ineffectiveness of the mask mandates becomes more obvious over time, it would be premature to expect medical authorities to stop pushing for them. Judging by past experience, the use of N95 masks will likely be legally mandated with stiff fines for those using any other.

65 Replies to “Telling us what we already knew…”

  1. The cloth mask that I wear at work is 100% effective so far: My chin hasn’t caught covid.

  2. 10% > 0%

    Italy and Germany have mandated FPP2 masks. Will be interesting to see the effects. Theres also a focus on building air circulation and filtration.

    1. LOL 10% sounds pretty sciency. They might as well mandate crossing your fingers or wishing on a star.

      1. I highly doubt their 10% value. I’d say 0%. Why? Simple logic. Look at how these masks are worn. Gaps all the way around, and paper membranes that are NOT sufficient to filter out viruses. If these masks were effective against the ChiCom bio weapon flu … you’d be suffocating. Passing out from lack of oxygen and Co2 concentration.

        The N95 masks have valves for breathing. Because … you can’t breathe thru the filter paper (and they fit tight to the face.

        All the Karen’s smugly sporting their masks … are deluding themselves. But what do you expect from “suburban women Biden voters”?

        1. Science still fails to cover a FART!
          Your body still expells at force contaminating particles with virus or other diseases.
          So, ta da, unless your in a totally sealed suit, your a disease spreader not properly in protective gear.
          Ya bunch of walking/talking Coodie spreaders…

          Certainly shows why even the fully vaccinated can’t stop spreading a virus.
          Again wearing just a proper face mask still little protection.

    2. Yeah, except there are many variables to consider. The feeble attempts to extract the mask component out of the mess is virtually impossible.

    4. I have been a proponent of the good ventilation approach, on the basis of “the solution to pollution is dilution”: lower viral loads = lower probability of infection.

      1. The building code will change to require every interior space to have massive negative air pressure … sucking every last molecule out of the space. Yeah … so much so as there will have to be a massive ducted exterior fresh air supply to every room. Yeah, that’ll do the trick. Suck everyone’s cooties outside onto the roof.

        Be sure to tape all your paperwork to the desk.

        1. I may be old fashioned but we used to have something called ‘windows’. Very effective for circulating fresh air when used properly. Had the advantage that they didn’t need a licensed HVAC technician to operate them.

      2. And this is why, when they locked the cities into their apartment buildings with shared air and basically no circulation, and forced everyone to buy their food from the same place at the same time with reduced staff and hours meaning you were inside, longer, guess what?

        This is just going to go around until around 20-25% of people have got it, then it will die away. It really can’t be stopped and all countermeasures to date have been nothing but expensive failures that will have long reaching consequences that dwarf anything Covid could have done for probably decades. But as long as Pfizer made their 8 billion I guess it’s all good.

        1. Had nothing been done the whu who flu would have been gone by the end of April 2020.

    5. 10% is wishful thinking. The actual protection from masks is 0%. Some of the ” science” these days should not qualify as science. The Danish very large study of masks found no benefit.

      1. I felt much safer today when I was forced to don a mask for the twenty foot walk from the font door of the restaurant to our table (where it was instantly removed for the remainder of our meal)………clown world.

        1. Beyond clown world. Insanity isn’t a strong enough word for what morons and idiots are doing these days.

    7. You’re really scraping the bottom of the barrel. Are you that desperate to up the rhetorical stakes? Pathetic.

  3. My F@ck Trudeau masks from Amazon are very effective. They keep Liberal cult members away from me.

  4. I tuck my fingers in on the sides and bend it out a bit to leave some breathing room on the sides for the air to gain access to my lungs.

    It’s at least as good as the new Canadian’s method of using scarves.

  6. How did such research come out from a Canadian University, such wrongthink can’t be allowed!

    “The N95 was conversely able to filter over 50% of aerosol droplets while the other half is dispersed above the wearer’s head.”

    so the N95 mask isn’t 95% effective..

    and those “other half” don’t stay dispersed above the wearer’s head.

    1. Not one mask being used can stop any portion of an airborne virus. Physical impossibility.

  7. Medical “authorities” and politicians will do everything they can to cover their asses for the idiotic decisions they have made throughout this bloody gong show. They look dumber and dumber by the day and the simple fact is there were other far more sensible strategies that could have been brought to bear…..but now that they are well down this road of failure, they will continue down it because to do otherwise would be an admission of their stupidity.

    1. Smokers have a lower number of ACE2 receptors on the mucosal lining of the airways, resulting in fewer potential binding sites for the CoVid virus to latch on to.

    2. They have a lower number of ACE2 receptors on the mucosal line of the airways, resulting in fewer potential binding sites for the CoVid virus to latch on to.

    3. I think it is a good theory. If nothing else, the masks do l9wer oxygen intake and harbor bacteria– both of which could weaken resistance to Covid.

    4. Nicotine calms the Vagus nerve (parasympathetic nervous system) so, paradoxically, it acts as an immune system suppressant. There’s a certain percentage of smokers who give up smoking who will develop symptoms of adult onset asthma and that’s the mechanism. Unbeknownst to them, they’ve been self medicating.

  9. “Ladies and gentlepeople, we give you The Wheel!” (Thunderous applause erupts; while some have the vapours)

  10. I had a box of N95s when this whole shitstorm started. Was using them doing woodworking. They last forever. They start to develop the nice flavor after about a week of regular use.

  11. Important to remember is that this study, as well as the previous works published in support of Universal Mask Wearing, is a mechanistic study using some very sophisticated and clever modeling of fine particles. While truly beautiful work, these studies are not evidence of the efficacy of UWM in reducing community spread.

    If anything, these studies should indicate that UWM as practiced does nothing useful except to perhaps reduce the risk of fomite transmission (surface contamination via droplets) by people with severe enough infection to be shedding virus in quantity. In this manner, mask wearing provides some protection via source control, but would do little to protect even someone wearing a mask in close contact for an extended period, especially if in an enclosed airspace – the virus is spread as an aerosol, apparently, and the breath that escapes around the edges of every mask other than a fitted respirator will carry and admit such aerosols.

    What is needed are natural studies with large populations: something along the lines of a California (masked and locked down) versus Florida (largely unmasked and open). The two Dakotas are likewise dissimilar in approach, as are the big Texas cities vs NY/NJ, though the climate and areas aren’t so similar. A quick comparison would appear to indicate that there is no correlation between UWM/lockdowns and better outcomes.

    1. A big factor that mskes masks pretty useless is that most people walking around out there do not have an infectious case of Covid. We don’t know how many people actually catch Covid because numbers have been wildly exaggerated by phony ” cases”, but since less than 1% die, the ” pandemic” is not a huge threat. Media fear mongering and Government policies, however, are killing us.

  13. How many people even wear their mask properly?

    How many people have their nose; or their entire Nose AND Mouth exposed?

    My unscientific study? A LOT.

    1. Judging by those doing the perp walk into the lakeside restaurant I was in today I’d say less than 5% of patrons and 75% of wait staff* gave a rat’s arse about how they wore their masks.

      *busy place with bad acoustics, they had to pull their masks down numerous times just to communicate properly.

  14. There are so many simple observations, that destroy every aspect of the narrative.

    Any of you ever seen a biohazard bin? If the virus is so dangerous, why are the masks just common trash.

    Any of you ever taken a mask protocols class? Yeah, me neither. They won’t let you operate a pallet lifter at the grocery store without completing a course. But masks? Just wear the same one till the rubber bands break.

    If your mask works, why do I require one.
    If your vaccine works, why do I require one.

    The fact they demand compliance, so hard, means they know neither works.

    1. Don’t give them ideas! Next thing you know, they will put some orange bin just beside the used needle disposal…

  15. WILL THE MEDIA REPORT ON THIS!!??

    Face masks cause children to inhale six times the safe limit of carbon dioxide, study finds
    ‘We suggest that decision-makers weigh the hard evidence produced by these experimental measurements accordingly, which suggest that children should not be forced to wear face masks,’ stated the authors of the study published in the Journal of the American Medical Association.
    Fri Jul 2, 2021 – 8:06 am EST

    Featured ImageJuly 2, 2021 (Lockdown Sceptics) – New research published in JAMA (Journal of the American Medical Association) has found that wearing a face mask causes children to inhale dangerous levels of carbon dioxide that becomes trapped behind the mask.
    The peer-reviewed research letter from Dr. Harald Walach and colleagues found that the air masked children inhaled contained more than six times the legal safe limit for closed rooms as set down by the German Federal Environmental Office. The safe limit is 0.2%, whereas the air the masked children inhaled contained over 1.3% carbon dioxide.

    The effect was worse for younger children, with one seven year-old child inhaling air with 2.5% carbon dioxide, over 12 times the safe limit.

    The study looked at two types of mask, FFP2 masks and surgical masks, and found no significant difference between the two.

    The authors explained that this alarming result likely explains the complaints from children who wear face masks for long periods.

    Most of the complaints reported by children can be understood as consequences of elevated carbon dioxide levels in inhaled air. This is because of the dead-space volume of the masks, which collects exhaled carbon dioxide quickly after a short time. This carbon dioxide mixes with fresh air and elevates the carbon dioxide content of inhaled air under the mask, and this was more pronounced in this study for younger children.

    This leads in turn to impairments attributable to hypercapnia. A recent review concluded that there was ample evidence for adverse effects of wearing such masks. We suggest that decision-makers weigh the hard evidence produced by these experimental measurements accordingly, which suggest that children should not be forced to wear face masks.
    With face masks shown to have little to no impact in reducing infection or transmission, this suggests the policy is all pain and no gain and should be abandoned without delay.
    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2781743

    1. Maybe that is why they want us all in masks, particularly children. The more CO2 we breathe in the dumber we get and the dumber we get the more likely it is that we’ll vote Democratic/Socialist.

  16. ‘There is no question it is beneficial to wear any face covering, both for protection in close proximity and at a distance in a room,’ study leader Serhiy Yarusevych, a professor of mechanical and mechatronics engineering, said in a statement.

    Wait, wut?

    2. tim

      Yup,I get all my medical and health care advice from mechanical engineers, they are so smart (actually, most are arrogant pricks)

        1. I find that if you want something designed you ask an engineer. If you want something designed that works, ask a millwright.

          1. Some truth in that, for simple designs.

            Not too many millwrights out there designing cars or bridges, or electricians designing computers or HV switchgear.

            mhb

  20. Well,I am still waiting for Occupational Health and Safety to supply me with the WHMIS sheet for this Dread Airborne Toxin.
    And then the approved filter number for my half mask respirator..
    Safety First..Right..
    Strangely these industrial safety masks,which actually work..Are NOT APPROVED as appropriate face covering for The Dread Covid.

    But a random piece of fabric satisfies the authoritarian urges of the Minions of Mindlessness.
    No one who works with hazardous industrial products and in hazardous areas can make sense of these “Mask Mandates” which protect no one and nothing..
    The weapons grade level of stupid,in this part of Dread Covid Theatre does enrage me..Stupid this intense must be rewarded.

  21. N95 do not work either.
    Respiratory viruses cannot be contained with any mask. Like putting up a chain link fence to stop mosquitoes.
    Bubble suits with external air supply are used in level 4 labs.
    The COVID bullshit needs to stop but unfortunately so many have bought into it. I think mostly 50+ women.
    If you are sick, stay home, pretty simple.

    2. But, but, but … non-symptomatic transmission. That’s the foundational LIE that launched this entire pandemic.

      Now show me the granular data proving the percentage of spread from non-symptomatic ChiCom Plague carriers … data? We don need to show you no stinken data … or proof or methodology

  22. Climate hysteria.
    Covid hysteria.
    Trudeau hysteria.
    Thanks ladies.

  23. Live in small town Manitoba, close to Brandon. Manitoba has had no mask mandate since the beginning of August. Majority of people in Brandon and said small town still masked. Even some when walking alone. Going in the post office unmasked feels like being a radical. Visited a town closer to Saskatchewan border. A lot less masks, hardly any. Wonder if it’s something in the local water? Doesn’t give me a lot of hope.

  24. The blue masks are to Covid-19 protection what Wayne Gretzky’s helmet was to hockey safety.

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