Further to this mornings post Here’s a pdf of the Covid treatment guide mentioned. If we had a properly functioning media these kinds of things would have been readily available at least a couple of months ago. (read the fine print underneath)
CovidPatientTreatmentGuide pdf
Disclaimer: This booklet does not provide individual medical advice or prescribe treatment but is provided as an educational service for patients and their families to know what options are available and widely used for many conditions. Patients should consult the physicians of their choice for individual medical evaluation and recommendations for treatment tailored to individual needs.
http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v16n18.shtml
“Dr. Mao has been using high-dose dose IVC to treat patients with acute pancreatitis, sepsis, surgical wound healing and other medical conditions for over 10 years. When Covid-19 broke out, he and other experts thought of vitamin C and recommended IVC for the treatment of moderate to severe cases of Covid-19 patients. The recommendation was accepted early in the epidemic by the Shanghai Expert Team. All serious or critically ill Covid-19 patients in the Shanghai area were treated in Shanghai Public Health Center, for a total of 358 Covid-19 patients as of March 17th, 2020.”
“Dr. Mao stated that his group treated ~50 cases of moderate to severe cases of Covid-19 infection with high dose IVC. The IVC dosing was in the range of 10,000 mg – 20,000 mg a day for 7-10 days, with 10,000 mg for moderate cases and 20,000 for more severe cases, determined by pulmonary status (mostly the oxygenation index) and coagulation status. All patients who received IVC improved and there was no mortality. Compared to the average of a 30-day hospital stay for all Covid-19 patients, those patients who received high dose IVC had a hospital stay about 3-5 days shorter than the overall patients. Dr. Mao discussed one severe case in particular who was deteriorating rapidly. He gave a bolus of 50,000 mg IVC over a period of 4 hours. The patient’s pulmonary (oxygenation index) status stabilized and improved as the critical care team watched in real time. There were no side effects reported from any of the cases treated with high dose IVC.”
My mother told me to never take health advice from an ungulate!!
Hmm, where have I seen that treatment before? Oh right, Linus Pauling (invented quantum mechanics), was a big proponent of high dose vitamin C.
Though water soluble, high doses can cause diarrhea.
https://www.vox.com/2015/1/15/7547741/vitamin-c-myth-pauling
As for Quinine in tonic water, you’d have to drink 4l of it a day to get any appreciable amount of quinine from it..
You’d probably develop diabetes by doing that, tonic water has one of the highest amounts of sugar of any fizzy drink.
One cool thing about quinine, it fluoresces under black light, check your gin and tonic or Martini, sometime!
Gin and tonic, with lots of lemon, however, is acceptable on a hot day!
Mojito, sorry, no tonic in my Martinis, no vodka either, bleh!
It’s a lot older than when Linus Pauling talked about it. Here is a medical paper from 1949, describing treatment of measles, mumps, rubella and *polio* using high doses of Vitamin C. Note the comment at the top of the article, that the previous trials failed because the dosage was not enough.
The Comp Risks Archive, Volume 31, Issue 91, reprinting from Southern Medicine and Surgery, 209, by Dr. Fred Klenner.
https://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/31/91#subj19
Sounds excellent. Where are our medical people? Instead of focusing on treatments, the public health advisors are on a mad quest to try to stop a virus from spreading. The strategy has always been insane.
That same page has lots on Dr. Robert Cathcart, who spent decades using high dose IV vitamin C to cure all sorts of diseases. Other than the last one, 50gm in 4 hours, the doses here are small compared to what he used and recommended. At some high level in your blood, C becomes a universal antiviral.
“Bowel tolerance” is higher with IV C than oral, and the sicker you are the higher it is. Some of Cathcart’s patients were getting 150gm per day. And IV C is about 5 times more effective than the same amount given orally.
IV C has always been the cure for the Covid. And nebulized highly dilute H2O2 (0.2% solution) has always been the best preventative. No vaccines, no new drugs, no repurposed drugs needed … ok, hardly ever needed. And do take your vitamins and mineral supplements too.
Holy fucking shit.
Guys, I’m a doctor. I deal with covid patients on a daily basis. I deal with those of them that are well, and those that are sick enough to go to the ICU (some who decided that they were too independent to put on a fucking mask. Now they have tubes down their throat. Nice trade off?).
Please listen to me when I state that this guide is terrifyingly *horse shit*.
The association of American physicians and surgeons is a bunch of whack job nutters that splintered off to make their own group when they decided that *evidence based medicine* apparently wasn’t good enough.
Do not take the advice from this pamphlet. I’m embarrassed that Kate let you guys post this. I literally read through the whole. Fucking. Thing.
If you’re the type who’d let a mechanic fix your engine through the exhaust pipe, be my guest. But Christ, the lunacy found within is terrifying. None of this works. Look up what plaquenil (an immunosuppressant, what a great thing to take when you’re infected with a deadly virus that can kill you!) can do to your eyes.
Those of you who think zinc and citrate and other vitamins can help…Christ, organic means grown in pig shit. Are you fucking kidding me? Make sure you rub the lefty crystals all over your body while you’re not breathing, you’d have just as much in common with them.
If you have covid, contact your public health department or contact your FUCKING doctor, not the goddamn looney assholes at the ‘graduated bottom of our class’ and ‘banged a conservative girl once in college, that was my only formative conservative experience, otherwise would be voting NDP’ crazy motherfuckers at the fake American doctor society.
Christ people are talking about preventative inhalation of hydrogen peroxide here. Are you literally retarded?
Make sure you ‘take all your vitamins’ just like Gwenyth Paltrow and the rest of the Hollywood left recommends.
Maybe just stay home, wash your fucking hands, wear a mask, and get immunized when you get the opportunity.
Christ, we conservatives are supposed to care about our families and communities. When did we decide that not protecting them by choosing not to get immunized was ‘personal responsibility’ and ‘love of family and duty to community’.
Christ.
Used to be a prominent blogger on the blogging Tories. Unreal to see how far things have gone.
Spoken like a true medical professional.
THIS is demonstrative of why people like me have absolutely no confidence in people like you.
“I literally read through the whole. Fucking. Thing.”
Wow. An admirable commitment. It took me, meh.. 10 minutes with and additional 5 minutes reviewing the flow chart. So I’m assuming it took you much longer to get through this heavy material given your weighty statement.
Read this:
“The Effects of Chloroquine and Hydroxychloroquine on ACE2-Related Coronavirus Pathology and the Cardiovascular System: An Evidence-Based Review”
https://academic.oup.com/function/article/1/2/zqaa012/5876834
You might need to dust off your Stedman’s and pull out the CRC.
Conn’s Current Therapy 2021 (The book your entire practice is based upon) is of no use.
When your finished, what, say… 2 to 3 weeks from now you can read this.
“Rational for meta-analysis and randomized treatment: the COVID-19 example”
https://www.clinicalmicrobiologyandinfection.com/article/S1198-743X(20)30643-1/fulltext
I look forward to hearing your response in a month or so.
Twit.
What to do if infected:
1. fall over and die, or
2. fall over, lie there, and let the government keep kicking you.
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now joe rogan has ignited a media shitstorm
by saying young healthy people should pass
on the vaxx.
the great milgram experiment seems to be
breaking down.
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https://canadianpatriot.org/2021/04/27/canadian-doctors-speak-out-on-covid/
Check his out and feel good … again.
Home Recipe For Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ)
By Dr. Betty Martini, D.Hum.
8-3-20
Note – The following is for informational purposes ONLY.
If you are sick, see your doctor. This is one person’s opinion and is not suggested as a cure or treatment for anything.
https://ourgreaterdestiny.org/2020/08/home-recipe-for-hydroxychloroquine-hcq/
Been drinking tonic a can a day along with a pill of multivitamins and vitamin D 1000. The philosophy behind it is, if it helps, good, if it does not, no problem, wont hurt.
1) That recipe won’t produce hydroxychloroquine;
2) There isn’t a detectable amount of quinine in grapefruit rinds, and quinine isn’t very soluble in water, so you’re not getting any quinine either
I’ve been taking 3000-4000 IU of Vitamin D since 2014 after making the MISTAKE to take that BS flu shot in 2013. Since that time I have also added Vitamin B1 in a B complex (cant seem to find it on its own), , Omega 3 twice daily all with my normal Prescription meds: Telmisarten, Rosa Vastatin and Aspirin (2 X 82 daily). I’m 68, had 5 Bypasses in Fed 20 – Knee Replaced Nov 20 Walking 2-3 miles a day & feel great…!!
If the shit hits that fan after all that, I’m sitting on 4 boxes of HydroxyCholorQuine…220 mg tablets. They can stuff their poison vaccine up their arse.
But to me this entire facade of a pandemic is simply the Seasonal Influenza with a slight Name Change…NOTHING More. One only need look at total deaths per year…it’s as simple as that. The rest is PURE FEAR PORN to make you believe that your “salvation” is at hand with an experimental, non Animal Tested, Non Biological, GARBAGE inoculation.
This pamphlet is 14 Months too late and apparently one produced in the USA By AMERICANS.
Well file this in the “Pound shy and a Dollar short.” File.
Where the hell were all these instructions last year. Oh my bad, some doctors actually recommended these procedures but the medical authorities and the media de-bunked them. If there is any justice here then Fauci and his cohort should be called in front of the International Court of Justice in the Hague along with the CCP. How many deaths would have been avoided if the science had been adhered to instead of listening to a bunch of roving ‘specialists’ that were hell bent on getting rid of Trump.
I prefer not to get my medical advice from a fringe political advocacy organization (left-wing OR right-wing).
Well pretty much all you are getting today from the establishment is fringe left wing rubbish.
So this booklet is published by the CDC? NIH? Surely our Federal Government would provide such a crucial, urgent, helpful guide? Surely, our government CARES so deeply for each elderly American at risk from this virus … that they would proscribe every efficacious method of treatment?
Nope.
Nope, it’s published by the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, which sounds like a legitimate medical professional organization like the AMA or AAFP or AAP or ANA, but is in fact a conservative political advocacy group.
Your choice to follow or not its health advice. Just know that it’s based more on political motivations rather than scientific evidence. (You will of course claim that advice from the CDC, NIH, etc. are no different, a view that is also entirely yours to believe — though that too is itself based more on politics than science.)
Yawn. Now please tell me which one of their recommendations is worthy of the CDC or NIH veto? AMA or AAFP or AAP or ANA Veto? Which drug or therapy on their list should be banned by YouTube? Only the ones mentioned by PDJT?
The fact is, that neither our GOVERNMENT nor any of its tentacles of bureaucratic agencies have offered ANYTHING to the COVID patient except to lock yourself up in the basement and continue to wear a mask. Our government has treated COVID patients like Lepers … in a 19th century Leper Colony.
Personally … I have never asked my personal physician for his political affiliation … just for his/her competency and care
“The fact is, that neither our GOVERNMENT nor any of its tentacles of bureaucratic agencies have offered ANYTHING to the COVID patient…”
Really? You’re actually going with “Why isn’t the government doing MORE to insert itself into what is traditionally a one-on-one doctor-patient relationship by foisting one-size-fits-all Official Government Medical Advice upon the citizenry?” as your latest conservative/anti-government talking point?
“Personally … I have never asked my personal physician for his political affiliation … just for his/her competency and care.”
Exactly. That’s literally the government’s advice as well: if you test positive for COVID-19, isolate at home, self-monitor for changes, and consult your family doctor on how best to manage and treat any symptoms.
Thank you.
Pill form vitamin d is fine. Just take it with fat or oil as d is fat soluble.
I take 10,000 iu a day of vitamin d in various forms.
I have laid in a supply of Invermectin and Hydroxychloroquine, so I have the means to self-medicate if the WuFlu should hit me again. I am pretty sure I got it in January of last year. Three days of chills and fever, and general severe fatigue, followed by nearly two months of a productive cough. I expect I should have long-lasting immunity now, but there is really no way to prove it.
Serology antibody testing could answer the question about previous infection.
This booklet is put out by the “American Association of Physicians and Surgeons”. It *sounds* like a legitimate group of medical professionals. In fact it is a collection of crackpots and quacks.
These are the same folks who keep telling us that vaccines cause autism, that HIV is a hoax and does not cause AIDS, that abortion causes breast cancer, and that shaken baby syndrome is actually caused by childhood vaccines. The list goes on. Medical science be damned. And the media runs to them for an easy inflammatory soundbite on seemingly every public health issue.
I would be very careful about anything (!) they suggest.
“In fact it is a collection of crackpots and quacks”
Why is that the case? Why are people willing to try some of these crackpots ideas?
Maybe it’s because they haven’t seen or heard ANY ideas from people like Dr.Fauci except close it down, wear your mask and shut your mouth and if infected as BA noted earlier you can:
1. fall over and die, or
2. fall over, lie there, and let the government keep kicking you.
It’s an easy matter to review the booklet and decide for yourself what makes sense and what does not. As for the organization consisting of crackpots, each of the issues you identified (autism/Vaccines, cause of AIDS, etc.) are legitimate areas of medical controversy. The position of members of this association may go against the accepted narrative, but that hardly makes those questioning the narrative “crackpots” or quacks.
Yeah, so…..
I get that you can read Wikipedia and are completely uninformed regarding the effect political influence has on diagnostic medicine.
The AAPS is a legitimate group of medical professionals.
I don’t see anything wrong with the publication. In fact, based on information available, by using this as a blueprint for care, shutdowns could have been abandoned by June 2020.
It is a bit dated at this point. Sound ideas, but there are better medications now.
Over by June 2020? They never should have happened. The HCQ arm of the AAPS protocol is the Zelenko protocol, and Dr. Vladimir Zelenko is the guy who brought HCQ/zinc/Z-pack to President Trump’s attention. Trump’s “it may be a game changer, maybe not” remark was just before the lockdown started, when the US had been given 10s of millions of doses of HCQ by Teva and other pharms and other countries. We had enough to blanket NYC and the hot zones on the west coast, which would have stopped this thing cold with only local short term isolation. But no, because OrangeManBad. And now half a million are dead. And the vaccine makers have made billions. And the Dems are in charge of everything.
Who’s the crackpot here? Certainly not these doctors, msny of whom who have successfully treated hundreds of patients.
Free downloadable chapter from Prof Bakhti raising the alarm on the experimental “vaccines”
https://www.goldegg-verlag.com/goldegg-verlag/wp-content/uploads/corona_unmasked_engl_leseprobe.pdf
Download and share. He came out from his comfortable retirement as an esteemed Professor of Medical Microbiology at Mainz University to raise his increasing alarm at the overturning of established principles of handling a respiratory virus and has been fighting for honesty and real scientific debate to an ungrateful and censorious public health autocracy ever since. A true hero.
The experiment is well underway, so it’s unlikely that Prof Bakhti’s alarming message will have much effect. Acute adverse reactions are a given at this point and seem to be relatively rare, so government agencies with do their best to poo poo and sweep these under the rug.
The greater question then is what are the harmful long terms effects if any? ADE could be bad, but likely could be treated with steroids. The worse then might be lymphocytes attacking the placenta in the case of pregnancy or producing chronic autoimmune diseases. The drive to “vaccinate” young healthy people is insane in my opinion.
“The drive to “vaccinate” young healthy people is insane in my opinion.
Not to those who hold shares in the vaccine companies, or to the politicians who are paid-off to toe the line. Fauci and Gates are making millions and they are just plain, evil.
Very important read. Thanks.
I know three people in their 60s and 70s who got covid and were prescribed hydroxychloroquine and a cocktail of drugs/supplements by their doctor. All 3 reported nearly immediate relief and quickly survived.
Ignore commenters above who report the AAPS advise is from nuts; the prescriptions were basically what was advised in the AAPS document.
It appears to me the procedures they describe have been republished in laymens terms from an article published in the American Journal of Medicine.
https://www.amjmed.com/article/S0002-9343(20)30673-2/fulltext#%20
Serves to highlight the staggering incompetence of our Free Public Health .
14 months into the “Just Two Weeks to save the System” and we have yet to see an agreed upon method of treatment.
And that “Accurate Information” supplied to the public,so they may make up their own minds and act in our own best interests..Never been provided.
Instead.Endless Propaganda,mass orchestrated Hysteria and Fear..
Firing them all,is way too kind.
We have been ripped off for decades and now the situation has arisen,the “professional Help” has betrayed us on every front.
Guess what?
Good enough for government,is good for nothing.
Perhaps because there are so many treatments that work. I can name at least 6 off the top of my head. The real problem is getting TPTB to accept that sufficient research and trials have been done, and give them an EUA.
AFAIK, the only treatments given the EUA green light by FDA/CDC are Remdesivir, which doesn’t do much, and the Seraph microbind filtration unit. The Seraph thing is expensive, $1400 per use, hospital only, but it can filter the virus out of your blood in a matter of a few hours. Hemoperfusion. Similar to dialyses. It got an EUA over a year ago, but I’d bet most people have never even heard of it.
“AFAIK, the only treatments given the EUA green light by FDA/CDC are…”
Also several monoclonal antibody combinations (casirivimab and imdevimab/REGN-COV2; bamlanivimab and etesevimab), convalescent plasma therapy, and baricitinib + remdesivir.
The AAPS home treatment guide has been available for months. So has their prevention and treatment protocols, which are pretty much a choice of the Zelenko protocol or the I-MASK+/I-MATH+ protocol.
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Covid-19 treatment watchers: the latest one to look at is cyproheptadine. It’s one of the first antihistamines ever developed, back when Eisenhower was President. Dirt cheap generic. But it turns out that it’s also an SSRI (selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor) like fluvoxamine, but works across a broader range of the illness than fluvoxamine. SSRIs excite the S1R protein in your brain, which then clamps down on cytokine production, which limits or stops the cytokine storm overreaction from your immune system.
Funny isn’t it, how when a medical expert, no matter how hugely qualified like Dr. Bhakdi or Dr. Mike Yeadon goes off the reservation, they are immediately labelled quacks and conspiracy theorists, with subsequent career damage?
Sounds familiar somehow…oh right: climate change! Same excrement, different pile. Yesterday I saw one science-y website quote a NYT writer as their vaccine-fear debunking source – because, you know, he knows better than people who worked at Pfizer.
Upside down and backwards with no end in sight.
Dr. David Brownstein had a 100% cure rate on his clinic patients with COVID and he treated most of them in the parking lot in the snow by injecting them in the rear end.
“Roll down your window and drop your drawers”
“Now we know why Diamond Princess happened the way it did. It was never possible for more than 20% of the people on that ship to get seriously-symptomatic Covid-19 despite being cooped up in close quarters for weeks with an aerosol-spread disease and cruise passengers generally being wildly-overrepresented for various morbidity factors. It also completely explains why one of two people quarantined in the same cabin got sick and the other did not.
We also know why my friend’s grandfather was killed by it but his equally-morbid grandmother was not touched symptomatically even though she tested positive despite literally sleeping in the same bed with him until he wound up in the hospital and ultimately expired.
We also know why there is no place on the planet that has seen >20% of people with significant, symptomatic disease from Covid-19. Not a single place has had that happen, even where sanitation is crap and people spread it like crazy (e.g. Iran where they lick monuments sequentially — literally.)
This study explains every single example seen everywhere in the world, including high-concentration examples, of infection with Covid-19 back to the start of the pandemic. We now know why no more than 20% of any exposed population has ever exhibited materially-serious disease — it simply was not possible as no more than 20% of the population was potentially susceptible to serious disease. Ever. Period.”
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=242205
The only treatments that get any press are the ones with pharmaceutical patents that have yet to expire. You’ll notice the suppressed treatments are always either off patent or unpatentable.
Funny, that.