Margin Of Fraud

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Antrim Michigan Forensics Report 121320 [PRELIMINARY]

“The allowable election error rate established by the Federal Election Commission guidelines is of 1 in 250,000 ballots (.0008%). We observed an error rate of 68.05%. This demonstrated a significant and fatal error in security and election integrity.”

Lots more there.

The report had been shielded by a protective order until this morning.

Related: Dominion Voting Systems uses SolarWinds products.

97 Replies to “Margin Of Fraud”

    1. Not just your intellectual betters, Robert.

      But also: Trump supporters, Trump’s personal friends, Trump election official appointees, Trump appointed judges, Republican election official appointees, Republican senators, Republican governors, Republican Attorneys General, Republican Secretaries of State, Republican Congressmen. And of course every single Democrat and independent.

      On the other hand, you have those claiming fraud: Trump’s family, Trump’s paid lawyers, some (but not all) Trump’s die-hard supporters.

      So hard to figure out which one’s are blind partisans full of conspiracy theory spin denying reality, and which one’s see the truth. So very hard.

      2. That’s nonsense. Anyone who has bothered to look at this report and other factual information regarding election irregularities and statistical improbabilities knows that the election was stolen for Biden and it is being covered up. This is not about preferred candidates, it is about election integrity. Unless the error is corrected, democracy is dead.

      3. Why vote ever again if the leaders are selected? Even the “other” side will sometimes get “their” candidate to keep them docile and thinking the whole thing isn’t a manipulated sham.

        If Georgia Democrats are willing to steal the presidential election– and nobody is calling them on the fraud– then how important is the presidency +house +senate?

        If voting doesn’t matter– there isn’t much left for men believing in liberty and yearning to be free to do in civil society.

        This is the fight. The lie is too big for these men to accept. We refuse to accept it. The consent of the governed will be gone.

        The problem is one side is fine with chaos (see: San Francisco, Seattle, Chicago, Portland, NYC, 2020 election).

        If I were to go a level deeper, the USAs enemies win two ways– their outright theft is codified by weak men or it foments chaos because those voices don’t speak for the rest of us. They win when they cheat to win– and they win when the country is plunged into chaos.

        I cannot accept the lie.

        1. The Trump far right partisans like to paint the world into two categories: the far left and everyone else. It’s actually the opposite. The far right and everyone else. The country has moved on from the far right evangelical extremists. That’s why Republicans keep doing worse and worse nationally.

          Republicans have won a majority of the votes and won the popular vote only once in three decades and it was way back in 2004 when Bush was riding high with popular support after 9/11 and was fighting the Iraqi War.

          Face it: gay marriage is legal and not going away; gays are allowed in the military and that won’t change; a clear majority of Americans and even almost 50% of Republicans now support pro-choice laws; a vast majority of Americans support a national health care plan; most Americans now think they need more immigrants, not fewer. Go up and down the list, and the culture wars are won.

          So OF COURSE they have to claim fraud. It’s the only way they can explain it to themselves. The rest of the country just moves on, and they can’t accept that.

          If the Democrats didn’t get in their own way so often, the Republican Party would be long gone. As it is, after Trump (a wolf in sheeps clothing if you are a movement conservative who holds conservative values and not just a cranky protester), the Republican Party is done. Only when Johnson absolutely obliterated Goldwater have so many leaders of the other party switched sides.

          1. The country has moved on from the far right evangelical extremists..

            …and replaced them with far left violent destructive extremists

      4. twattsthetruff, the steal has been going on for over 4 years, and that could been sean by those of us who were watching. A long with the fact that CCP has 1.95 million stooges in many western large corps, and governments, with Trump sqeezing china’s nuts with his trade dealings, only a fool would think china would not try to interfere to get mTrump out, or are you too stupid to grasp that?

    2. Golly, 3 out of 6 people vote and the count is 660. I know this will be painful for many, but just how stupid are they?

  3. This is really f##king damning stuff from a professional forensic audit team… Illegitimate election. Illegitimate government. This needs to move to nullification.

    1. The SCOTUS needs to reconsider the State of Texas, et.al. Lawsuit! Now! This morning!

      PS … I can’t WAIT for creepy, cheaty, Joe’s 8pm “acceptance” speech tonight … when he is sure to mention a return to “normalcy” … the “new normalcy” … of stolen elections and Democracy-interrupted

      1. What is happening? December 14 has arrived..?
        I seriously do not have any plan to go to MSM.
        Is it official Kenji??

  4. Really makes you appreciate having elections canada. I know they aren’t exactly neutral but still it’s impossible to steal an election here.

      1. I’ve personally scrutineered during the voting and the counting. It’s rock solid :

        1 – You have to show id to vote
        2 – If you don’t have id you have to swear an oath in front of the electoral officer for the polling place who will remember you because I’ve never seen it done once
        3 – The counting of ballots is done by a minimum of two elections canada people and each party can have reps watching it
        4 – The doors are locked when counting begins. If you leave, you can’t come back in.
        5 – Advanced polling boxes are signed and sealed and the seal and signature are verified before opening
        6 – Spoiled ballots are spoiled ballots PERIOD. There’s no “correcting” ballots and other nonsense. If you can’t put a freaking X or check in a circle too freaking bad.
        Suitcases full of ballots? Not possible. Voting machine “tabulation glitches”? Not possible. Dead voters? Not possible.

        1. If you can’t read and navigate a ballot form properly, maybe it is fitting and right that your “right to vote” is kinda lost?

          I mean if you are too dumb/illetrate in an official language to vote, maybe it is self-selecting that way …

        2. “The counting of ballots is done by a minimum of two elections canada people…”

          Yeah, and in Michigan, votes were counted by DEMOCRATS and REPUBLICANS – at least, until the Democrats had the Republicans thrown out of the building. Biden seems to have done pretty well after that – at least within a 68.05% margin of error, anyways…

        3. The only ID that you have to show is an official letter-envelope with your address on it. You do not have to show that you are a citizen!! A driver’s license is OK – but- that’s not proof of citizenship. You could be illegal, new immigrant, permanent resident – none of these categories can vote, but the election process doesn’t deal with this.

          We have our own way of ‘stealing government power’ in Canada. The first one is the law of bilingualism, which nullifies the opportunity of about 90% of Canadians from federal appointments. The second one is the MP allotments, which assigns the most MPs to the four large cities of Montreal, Toronto, Ottawa-Hull and Vancouver . Toronto itself has almost as many MPs as Manitoba and Saskatchewan combined. These sites – with the most MPs – are where all the public service, the minorities and other ‘government dependents’ live – and they vote for their pocketbooks. Not for Canadians.

          The result is that the Liberals can focus on buy-outs and ‘gifts cards’ to the people in these cities – and win the election – and have not one single MP from the West. And they don’t care.

          This infrastructure is cemented into the Canadian election system – so, fraudulent votes are irrelevant. The Laurentian Elite don’t need fraudulent votes to win and retain power; it’s all there already- cemented – in our Charter and electoral system.

          2. “The only ID that you have to show is an official letter-envelope with your address on it. You do not have to show that you are a citizen!!”

            Sure, technically, you could be a non-citizen but decide to show up at the polling station on Election Day, flash a utility bill or some other letter mail with your address on it, swear an oath falsely claiming to be a Canadian citizen, vote illegally, and then disappear into the night (though elections officials now have your mailing address on file, unless you forged your piece of mail too).

            But (1) realistically, how many people are going to bother with such an attempt at personal illegal voting, unless they felt so strongly about participating in the democratic process that they would go through all that trouble just to cast a single vote, and (2) for this to work as an organized means to steal an election, you would need a pre-planned recruitment campaign involving thousands of participants–per targeted riding–each willing to commit election fraud (punishable by up to five years in prison/$50K fine) while remaining silent about it, a series of implausible logistical requirements that would make it highly unviable fraud strategy.

            “Toronto itself has almost as many MPs as Manitoba and Saskatchewan combined.”

            According to the 2016 Census, Toronto is home to about 1.86 million Canadian citizens over 18, while Manitoba and Saskatchewan together are home to about 1.63 million Canadian citizens over 18.

            If anything, Toronto should have more MPs, not fewer, than Manitoba and Saskatchewan combined.

        4. 1 – You have to show id to vote

          No, you don’t. I have never been asked for ID in any provincial or federal election for as long as I can remember. And no, the ballot that was sent to my mailbox does not count as “ID” in any meaningful sense.

          It doesn’t matter what the rules are if the human beings in charge of implementing them ignore them.

          2. “1 – You have to show id to vote

            No, you don’t. I have never been asked for ID in any provincial or federal election for as long as I can remember. And no, the ballot that was sent to my mailbox does not count as “ID” in any meaningful sense.

            It doesn’t matter what the rules are if the human beings in charge of implementing them ignore them.”

            That’s true, I suppose, but the the original poster’s point was that you can’t steal an entire election that way. You can’t have tens of thousands (or hundreds of thousands) of illegal votes change the outcome of the election in Canada. Any fraud perpetrated is done by individuals and amounts to such a small difference as to be meaningless.

            To be honest, I never realized until this 2020 US election (and all these problems) that the individual states each run their own elections. Not such a great system, apparently.

        5. Ballots are tabulated electronically. If it is possible to tamper with vote counting machines, there is no reason to assume tampering would not happen in Canada, particularly if the CCP had an interest in who wins. The election cheating in the US really does call into question everywhere where electronic machines are used.

          1. Ballots are counted by hand here. The counts are written down on a sheet that’s kept with the paper ballots. When I watched the count me, along with every other party rep kept track of that count and sent it to party HQ.

            You can’t cheat our system. It’s simply not possible. I’m sure people vote fraudulently but it’d be impossible to do a widespread ballot stuffing initiative.

            If you can come up with a way of cheating this system, let me know.

    2. Canada uses Domion Voting Systems.
      Dominion Voting Systems Worldwide Head Office was on Spadina just south of Dundas in Toronto a solid Liberal area for the most successfully “elected” government in the history of mankind (Liberal Party Of Canada).
      It closed down and disappeared in the dead of night right after their fraud was uncovered.

      2. Trump’s Executive Order calls for the property confiscation of foreign election interference actors.
        No scam happens without the Libranos getting a taste and the evidence shows Canadian fingerprints all over this.
        Think Inspector Clouseau.
        Oh goody, Trump is going to annex Canada.

        Are the Toronto Star and the CBC bastions of hate Whitey?

    3. There is no need to steal the election in Canada
      there are enough stupid Byatches that vote Liberal

    1. A human “glitch”.

      The DOJ should launch a wholesale forensic analysis of EVERY State and County election system NOW! Immediately!!!

      1. Kenji, he DOJ should launch Bible Barrf into outer space. Trump needs to replace Barr and Wray, and then declare martial law. The lefties are too compromised to ever except the evidence of fraud.

    2. It is my solemn belief that whatever the Canadian Media says will be a lie.
      It’s just what they do.

      It’s not like anyone will call them on it.
      Particularly the Soy Conservative Party.

  7. Wonder what sort of pretzel logic the courts will try to use to sweep this aside.

    At this point they are pretty much down to plugging their ears and going “la la la la la I can’t hear you”

    The folks who certified this election must be feeling a bit uncomfortable at this moment.

    Any reason they should not be arrested and charged immediately?

    1. Hence the RUSH to declare Biden (Kampala) the “winner”. Repeat a LIE often enough … through the media … and voila! Everyone “believes” creepy, cheaty, Joe is POTUS.

      Cue the pussy hat marchers … and all the Hollywooden Actresses to fantasize about blowing up the White House.

      1. What rush? He won the election 5 weeks ago.

        But you’ve clearly figured out how Trump plays you: tell a big lie, tell it often enough, tell it from the Oval Office… and voila! All the sheep believe that the creepy, cheaty, corrupt DiaperDon is still POTUS.

        2. You have hard evidence that Biden ‘won’? Where is your proof that people did, in fact, vote that way.

          Come on, how dumb are you? Elections have ALWAYS been rigged, since like forever and ago. If elections really worked at changing things, they’d be illegal.

          Come to think of it, all the big changes have occurred WITHOUT elections to decide them: gay marriage, abortion, unions, etc.

          I now no longer reflexively oppose ANY foreign power that is dedicated to making the West pay a staggering price for their hypocrisy at blowing up the rest of the world in the name of “elections”.

    2. “Wonder what sort of pretzel logic the courts will try to use to sweep this aside.

      At this point they are pretty much down to plugging their ears and going “la la la la la I can’t hear you””

      Yeah, that’s what it looks like to me, too. How is it, for example, that the mother-daughter team caught ON VIDEO committing election fraud haven’t even been questioned yet? The MSM refused to show the video (or even discuss it) of course, and Youtube and Google banned it (!) but it is widely available all over the world anyway…so how can the authorities possibly keep pretending that it doesn’t exist?

  8. Here’s a Michigan witness who testified that she saw an official put corrections tape over the ballot scanners so that the scanners couldn’t read anything.
    https://twitter.com/mobilememphian1/status/1330964206825463808

    I wonder what would happen to those ballots? Guess they just would have been marked as “errored” and adjudicated manually. With no oversight. And then have the adjudication logs permanently deleted.

    Yep, nothing to see here.

  9. Richard Baris, of the People’s Pundit, has examined what records are available in Michigan and has discovered many deceased voters. He has also identified, by name, the clerks that are associated with verification of many ballots supposedly submitted by 100+ year old voters. What is more disturbing is that many records of the deceased had been deactivated, in the past, and were reactivated in time for this election. Some of the records, that he discovered, are in the process of being deleted revealing consciousness of guilt. Don’t worry, he had taken screen shots.
    To be clear, I don’t think Donald Trump has any hope of retaining the presidency and, if he does prevail, he will be neutered. That said, I absolutely support the continuing exposure of election “irregularities”. Remember that the institutional Republican party does not have DJT’s back, hence their tepid lack of response. The courts, bureaucracy, and the legislature at all levels of government, are riddled with these people.

    1. There is absolutely zero – zero! – evidence that a single dead person voted. This falsehood has been proven over and over again.

      There are dead people on the voter register, for sure. But they did not vote.

      There have also been a few voters with the same name as dead people, but those have been shown to be very much alive and legal.

      Time and time and time and time again, the claims of fraud when examined have been proven completely false, and an irregularity that was corrected before counted.

      He lost. Big time. Massive loss. If 306 EV votes was, in Trump’s words, one of the biggest victories in the history of the Republic in 2016, then this is even bigger. He got crushed by over 7 million votes.

      1. I agree that not a single dead person voted. There’s just no evidence.
        Not one of them has stepped forward and signed an affidavit.
        If what you say is true, it would be the first time in US election history, perhaps anywhere.

      2. James Blalock of Covington, Ga passed away in 2006…..he cast a mail in ballot for Biden

        Linda Kesler of Nicholson, Ga. passed away in 2003..she cast a mail in ballot for Biden

        Edward Skwiot, of Trenton, Ga passed away in 2015….he cast a mail in ballot for Biden

        ..need more?

  10. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Yeah, sure, by all means, throw out the Antrim County official results if you really don’t trust them. Antrim County, by the way, went 61% Trump to 37% Biden, so tossing the ballots would only increase Biden’s total margin of victory in Michigan.

    Incidentally, the only reason why there’s all this recent hullabaloo about Antrim’s vote tabulators is because state election officials caught, publicly acknowledged, and fixed the error in the unofficial results (arising from the failure to update some of the tabulators’ software) all by themselves, as part of the state’s standard post-election vote review and verification process. Of course, no doubt in your minds, this type of proactive disclosure and accountability by MI election officials is some kind of Jedi mind trick/reverse psychology/3D chess move by the Deep State that proves — PROVES! — the very existence of fraud.

    1. The point here is, IMHO, that if Antrim County’s vote was fvcked-over like this:

      1) How many other counties were too? and

      2) If Trump took Antrim county, when do the Dem’s come raging-out accusing Trump of election fraud? 3… 2… 1… or would the Dem’s rather not get-into election fraud just now? Remember there’s no Statute of Limitations on fraud, so Trump can come back on them whenever it’s proven.

      Oh and, 3) The audit trail ran both Dominion cards and tabulated both results – so who were the “suspect” results skewed in favour of?

      P.S. This is the smoking gun proving election fraud took place – so stow it, troll.

      1. “1) How many other counties were too?”

        None, because the Dominion vote tabulator software update error — in which, pre-election, state election officials updated the software in the machines in certain voting precincts to reflect a change in the candidate lists for one of the local (i.e., non-presidential) races, but didn’t similarly update all of the other machines outside of those precincts as they should have to ensure that all tabulators in use in Michigan reported voting results using the same format, structure and sequence, until they realized and then fixed that goof-up a few days after the election — this particular error happened only in this one single county in the entire country.

        1. ” this particular error happened only in this one single county in the entire country.”

          Says who?

    2. “Incidentally, the only reason why there’s all this recent hullabaloo about Antrim’s vote tabulators is because state election officials caught, publicly acknowledged, and fixed the error in the unofficial results (arising from the failure to update some of the tabulators’ software) all by themselves, as part of the state’s standard post-election vote review and verification process. ”

      Exactly. So how many did they NOT find and fix in all 5 states?

      We won’t know until they allow us to look. Period. It’s that simple. If you’ve got nothing to hide and you really, seriously believe that Joe Biden won, then allow the audits and investigations. What have you got to lose?

      Either *prove us wrong*, or STFU…

  11. Again, looking at facts and reality:

    Those supporting the claim for fraud: Trump’s family, Trump’s paid lawyers, some, Trump’s die-hardest supporters (and not even all of them).

    Those claiming there is no fraud: Trump supporters, Trump’s personal friends, Trump election official appointees, Trump appointed judges, Republican election official appointees, Republican senators, Republican governors, Republican Attorneys General, Republican Secretaries of State, Republican Congressmen. And of course every single Democrat and independent.

    So hard to figure out which one’s are blind partisans full of conspiracy theory spin denying reality, and which one’s see the truth. So very hard.

    Trump has not once won a claim on the substance of fraud in court, despite over 60 claims. These are Republican judges and even Trump judges who have called the claims – when the “evidence” is actually presented in court – as “bizarre”, having “no credibility” or being called “not evidence in a court of law”. His own lawyers have admitted over and over and over in court that there is no fraud. Some of Trump’s closest advisors and die-hard supporters are saying there is no fraud. Even the Supreme Court has unanimously rejected him, including all the conservatives and his own nominees. It is all spin to make the big baby feel good. Enough already.

    Trump and the Conspiracy Theorists (nice name for a band) are 1-60 in their fantastical efforts in court to overthrow the will of the American people. And the 1 win was only on some procedural question. They are the only one claiming there was any massive criminal fraud. Who would have thought or guessed in a million years that Trump would have been such a sore, petulant, baby of a loser.

    1. How did the Russia collusion case work out Troll? 4 years of lies based on Hillary generated doc. Yet no one on your side called it a conspiracy theory.

      We know the Fisa courts are corrupt (Roberts oversees)
      We know the FBI is corrupt
      We know that the courts are corrupt (Roberts pushed Obamacare through – its a tax.)
      We know that DC is corrupt.
      We know that China has agents throughout every country in the world
      We know that the Republican Party is corrupt and run by Tom Donohue who takes his marching orders from Fortune 100

      You know you are lying.

      1. Lying about what Ward?

        That the only ones who believe in your conspiracy theories are die-hard Trump partisans (and not all of them), his family and his paid lawyers (and not all of them either)? And that everyone else, including Trump partisans, including Trump appointees, including Trump judges all know there was no conspiracy?

        Those are facts. Sorry to break a little reality into your life.

        1. twaattsthetruth, you are either lying or stupid, I’ll go with both!

          Now explain emmet sullivan to us right wingers. You see it’s not just about the election, it’s about the last 4 1/2 years

    2. You seem a bit desperate to me. We have significant evidence that shenanegans gave Biden the win. You are simply denying reality– likely based on TDS.

      1. Significant “evidence”? And yet none of it submitted to court or, on the rare occasion it actually was, it was rejected as bizarre and ludicrous even by Trump appointed judges.

        The only ones who are claiming massive fraud are Trump die-hard partisans, and not even all of them claim it.

        Everyone knows there was no fraud. Everyone knows Biden won fair and square, crushed Trump in fact. Everyone knows this conspiracy theory is just Trump’s next birtherism.

        Trump is the very definition of desperate.

        He got crushed by the electorate that severely despises him and, in the words of Colonel Jessup, he can’t handle the truth.

        1. “Everyone knows there was no fraud. Everyone knows Biden won fair and square.”
          — just an astonishing claim! There was nothing “fair and square” about the Biden win. It was fraudulent — much manipulation of voting machines to say nothing of the cover up by media of Biden influence pedaling and unsavoury links to the Chinese. Your efforts to declare the fraudulent election legitimate are based on a fantasy. To your credit, I think you must know in your heart that a stolen election is unacceptable- hence your desperation to exonerate Biden. Ain’t gonna work. The evidence is too damning.

          1. “…much manipulation of voting machines to say nothing of the cover up by media…The evidence is too damning.”

            But LindaL, any time that “evidence” has been presented in court, every single judge has ruled against it, calling it weak and unconvincing. These are people whose literal jobs, whose entire professional identities, are to impartially consider whatever legally obtained evidence is presented before them and to render a verdict concerning its likely veracity.

            Not just once or twice. Time and again, and again, and again, and again, and again.

            Not just activist, Obama-appointed lower court judges, either. Republican judges, Trump-appointed judges, respected senior judges, Supreme Court justices.

            How do you explain that to yourself? I’m genuinely curious.

          2. ‘fraid not, LindaL. You folks here, the dwindling number of conspiracy theory believing Trump die-hard partisans, are the only ones who believe this nonsense.

            In fact the “logic” that there was massive fraud is absurd and bizarre, just like the Trump appointed judge said. It would involve millions of voters and election officials and Republican governors and other Republicans across hundreds of counties and at the state and national level… all committing the most egregious and obvious and traceable crime. And yet they haven’t won a single time in court whenever they have bothered to produce any “evidence”. And yet they haven’t found a single person who has actually organized this massive nation It’s a patently ludicrous claim, obviously.

            And everyone but you agrees there was no fraud. Period. Trump supporters, Trump’s personal friends, Trump election official appointees, Trump appointed judges, Republican election official appointees, Republican senators, Republican governors, Republican Attorneys General, Republican Secretaries of State, Republican Congressmen all know Biden won cleanly and massively and without fraud. And of course every single Democrat and independent.

          4. @ Doug — I don’t know what evidence has been presented in court, and we have new evidence even today. I believe many lower level courts are afraid to act– some intimidated, some bribed, many just passing the buck, not wanting to rock the boat and assuming SCOTUS will deal with it. Their party affiliation is not a clear indicator. Many Republican (you know, the RINO’s, Lincoln Project goons, others hate Trump as much as Democrats. Confirming election fraud is a very weighty decision. I think many fully expected negative repercussions, including personal threats if they ruled in Trumps favour. It was easier just to keep your head down and go along.

    3. Hey WhatsTheTruth, as a side note, isn’t it remarkable just how impenetrable these walls of self-delusion and fantasy are that some folks here have erected in order to preserve their own cognitive dissonance? Just as a matter of psychology and the capacity of the human mind to tell itself what it needs in order to survive, it’s really quite fascinating to observe (I mean, if the real-world consequences wasn’t so depressing and dangerous)?

      1. It’s absolutely bizarre. And quite frightening that such a large group of people could be so resoundingly delusional about such an easily proveable falsehood.

        I now know, more than ever, how dictatorship come to be with the support of the masses.

        1. if you were an honest liberal….you would be calling for an investigation

          …instead of dismissive hand waving

          I now know, more than ever, how dictatorship come to be with the support of the masses.

      2. doug, I used to have to analys situations for the job, and am pretty good at it, this whole thing was run as a psych opp, so explain that to me. PS; there was a reason I graduated near the top of the whole damn course when I took my industrial engineering. Cuz I’m good at analysis, capeach, now fuck off

        1. “…I graduated near the top of the whole damn course…”

          NEAR the top, but not actually AT the top. So, really, not all that impressive, in the end.

          Also, it’s spelled “capisce”, from the Italian capisci, or sometimes “capiche” or “kabish”. “Capeach” is just plain illiterate.

    4. “Trump has not once won a claim on the substance of fraud in court, despite over 60 claims.”

      Right off the bat, you fail. The Trump campaign did not make *anywhere near* 60 claims…they made about 10 or 12.

      All the rest were by other parties, which is why all the news outlets use qualifiers like “the Trump campaign and allies” or ” Trump and other Republicans” or “Trump and the GOP”. You would know that if you paid attention and did a little actual research, rather than just faithfully parroting the left-wing narrative. Why should anyone here listen to a single thing you say if you can’t even get the most basic facts correct?

    5. “Those supporting the claim for fraud: Trump’s family, Trump’s paid lawyers, some, Trump’s die-hardest supporters…”

      – So, half the country – amirite?

  12. The report insinuates that poll workers forged the votes.
    But it would take a special kind of stupid to deliberately introduce a swing that large in a republican county.
    Especially, when the polls said Biden was heading for sweep with a 7 point lead in Michigan.
    It simply does not compute.
    Occam’s Razor says the glitch was human error possibly in conjunction with a malfunctioning machine that was not detected because of the incompetence of the human operators.

    Remember that the Georgia hand recount proved, beyond all reasonable doubt, that the Dominion machines count votes correctly when used correctly. Any grandiose claims about wide spread problems with machines can be presumed to be false given that evidence.

    But 9/11 truthers gotta grasp any straw that will let them cling to their delusional conspiracy theories.

    1. “the Georgia hand recount proved, beyond all reasonable doubt, that the Dominion machines count votes correctly when used correctly”

      Lol

    2. “The report insinuates that poll workers forged the votes.
      But it would take a special kind of stupid to deliberately introduce a swing that large in a republican county.
      Especially, when the polls said Biden was heading for sweep with a 7 point lead in Michigan.
      It simply does not compute.”

      The polls predicted double-digit Biden leads and huge Blue Wave that never happened.

      “Remember that the Georgia hand recount proved, beyond all reasonable doubt, that the Dominion machines count votes correctly when used correctly. Any grandiose claims about wide spread problems with machines can be presumed to be false given that evidence.”

      (WHEN USED CORRECTLY, he says?)

      Priceless… 🙂

  13. It doesn’t matter. The EC votes today, time to concede. Save you ammo for later. But Trump has a lot of fight in him.
    They had to turn the entire government, arts, media, lower courts, DOJ, CIA on him, and still had to cheat and lie to voters.

    And they got away with it. They haven’t got SCOTUS. Like I’ve said on GA Senate races, let them have it and a two year gong show. That will be the make or break election. My bets are they will hold neither the Senate nor the House after 2022.

    For now, every stupid miscalculation you can conceive them capable of, count on it happening. Iran, stacking, no-filibuster.
    The Dem media complex quashed all public inquiry into Biden influence peddling, assuring us it wasn’t true earlier, just now.
    Two lies. Two lies in one swamp stinking affair. Seditious sycophants engineered a Russia hoax, turning a non crime into a crime.
    Meanwhile, actual crimes and their criminally predicated investigations are Russian disinformation. And big city fools fell for it.
    What were the consequences of Democrat double duality? The Presidency. Not much of anything else, but the Presidency.

    The left laughs, says we’re whiners. At this time in 2016 their heads were exploding, presaging a four year temper tantrum.

    Not us; At least not for now, for when the link between the Constitution, law and the consent of the governed is deemed severed, the people have a manifest right to rise up against tyranny and unlike Europe, they’re heavily armed.

    It’s happened before and it can happen again. That is assuming the progressive regressive haven’t got USA in a foreign war.
    So don’t try any stupid shit watermelons, don’t try climate change crap on them. As Conrad Black, lose the cackling.

  14. The mere fact that server security logs were deleted or tampered with is evidence of some kind of cover up…at the very least.

    1. In the world of real computer security, adulterated logs is proof positive of malfeasance all on its own. Forget everything else, this alone:

      All server security logs prior to 11:03 pm on November 4th 2020 are missing

      is enough to assume the system has been completely compromised.

  15. Many are afraid of the “deepstate,” because they’re not sure whether the deepstate, has something to expose about themselves. Not just politicians, judges too.

  19. I hope the President brings in the army and invokes the EO regarding international interference in an American election. I hope that every democrat is hanged from a lamp post in Washington DC and the world gets to see what happens to communists who screw with America. If he does not have the balls the America is finished just like Canada.

  20. Commit the fraud. Delete the fraud. It worked for old Hillary “bleacher ” Clinton.

    If people don’t at some point hang (figuratively, of course 😉 ) for these crimes they will only continue. We could see 2 billion votes in the 2022 elections if the Republicans start following the Dem’s example.

    If you’re a commie turning a blind eye to this corruption, don’t start whining when it comes back on you or results in people’s frustration boiling over.

  23. If you’re not a Chinese 50 cent army troll, do you ever keep track of how much you could have earned just for fun?

      1. What are the odds that 4 – YES 4 different NPCs* – a la WhatsTheTruth keep
        showing up on SDA & sometimes in the same thread & all displaying the same diction????

        NPC* = A term now used to describe a ‘Social Justice Warrior’ or SJW, as their behavior mirrors that of traditional in game NPCs (“Non Playable Character”), in that their thoughts and actions are limited to their programming (programming being mainstream media in this case) and lacking any critical and independent thought process.

        1. Absolutely, Just Asking

          What’s The Truth:
          “It’s absolutely bizarre. And quite frightening that such a large group of people could be so resoundingly delusional about such an easily proveable falsehood.”

          I remain unconvinced. And I can spell “provable”. So prove it.

  25. To all of you pseudo lawyers out there sit back in your chair of judgement and consider this. The evidence coming out of Michigan and everywhere else is more than enough to convince the American public that the election was rigged. The crime is not complete until Biden accepts the President-elect position. Once the election results are certified by Biden taking the President-elect title the trap should snap shut. Every state employee, every election official volunteer, every company that was involved in this fraud is now open to prosecution under the EO issued in 2018. The misappropriation and misuse of election equipment is just that but when you accept the result of the misuse knowing that it was misused becomes fraud and that is a felony in any court. What will happen to night or whenever after Biden reads his acceptance of the outcome of the fraudulent election.

    1. “Once the election results are certified by Biden taking the President-elect title the trap should snap shut…What will happen to night or whenever after Biden reads his acceptance of the outcome of the fraudulent election..“

      Prepare to wake up sorely disappointed every morning for the next 4+ years.

  26. To Mr or Ms, “What’s the truth”, OK, lets make the false presumption you are right, while we conspiracy theorists and Trump partisans are wrong. This site is a conservative leaning group of posters that share and exchange our thoughts and ideas to other like minded folk that wish to participate in the conversation. Now granted you visit to stir things up, but there seems to be some desperation in your repeated posts, nine by my count, why are you so desperate to convince us there is no fraud?

    If you are too stupid to see the blatant truth of the matter, we shall never agree on fraud or no fraud, so why do you bother? Perhaps you are trying to convince yourself. Perhaps we need to just agree to disagree and leave it at that eh! However, you won’t, cuz you just can’t help yourself. For me, I don’t see the point in debating with a troll. I know what I believe, if I’m wrong, so be it and I’m a fool, but if I’m right…..then this is the crime of the 21st century, that will affect the lives of tens of millions. Surely, should we not do the upmost we can to confirm the reality of fraud or not, if in enough states to steal the election. If a large part of the electorate are convinced, rightly or wrongly that there was massive fraud on a scale never before seen, should there not be a thorough investigation to confirm the reality? To prove or disprove? A refusal to even investigate by a non partisan entity, will leave those millions still believing they were cheated. How is that conducive to an electoral harmony that is so badly needed? The very fact that you refuse to even consider those possibly disenfranchised voters, this confirms to me that there is fear from the left that there was a massive fraud, and that they don’t want it discovered. If you won’t allow sunshine to confirm or deny, that just proves the left is complicit in a cover up.

    Now, having said my piece, I refuse to engage with the trolls here any further, so have at it, but you will never convince me that there was not a massive fraud without a non partisan investigation.

    1. I gave up trying to enlighten the …… Damnation can’t find a word to describe them!! Anyone that can look at what has happened in the last four years and seriously consider that Biden won the election is too delusional to carry on any kind of conversation. The amount of firearm sales that skyrocketed under the Obama administration and continued under Trump, the Walk Away movement, the Blexit movement, had forecast a massive swing in the body politic of America. The number of votes that Trump attained over his 2016 numbers is testament to those events. The Trump numbers on election night far exceeded the Democrats expectations and that resulted in shutting down the electoral process before the tally had finished. To argue with anyone that believes Biden won a fair election is to be a total and complete waste of your time. These people believe what they want to believe and no amount of truth or evidence will convince them otherwise. They have been feeding at the trough of the MSM and social media so long that they cannot mentally function and reason for themselves.

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