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Send Meng to a prison to await deportation, enough of the gilded cage.
Bad news. Conservatives and other non-conservatives should start discussing different ideas on how to disengage from China. Idle indignation doesn’t cut it any more.
I’m curious are these “Canadians” jailed in China conservative or Liberals?
Would make a huge difference towards my level of support for them, thanks.
Paul, I disagree with you. Whether they are Liberal or not makes no difference, as to our reponse as to China’s abuse towards the two Michels.
But to answer your question, Michaell Kovrig is a strong federal Liberal. Available Election Canada records show he has donated thousands of dollars to Trudeau’s party, including money to a local Ottawa constituency association. But he is still illegally held hostage.
“Michaell Kovrig is a strong federal Liberal” – Thanks
F*ckem, let China convict him and send Canada the bill for the bullet, and then send Meng to Guantanamo.
We don’t have Guantanamo or anything like it to send anyone to. And we don’t have anything on Meng except the U.S. extradition request. She should have had special treatment: bail refused/revoked, close custody, and her case to the head of some judge’s line to get her out of our hands one way or the other. A travel warning to Canadians, “Do not visit China, do not do business in China. It’s a basic dictatorship, no rule of law, can’t help you if they decide to take you hostage.” Start revoking Chinese visas, freezing their assets here. It’s expensive, but it’s reality.
“….except the U.S. extradition request.” – that was my obscure point.
Illegally held hostage? I will wager the Chinese think their citizen is also being held illegally. Is your legal the same as their legal? Play games with the big boys you need to put on your big boy pants. I am using the editorial form of “you/your”.
DM – in all fairness Kovrig is closer than you describe.
He was part of the diplomatic core and was in China as a consultant with very close librano ties (think laurentian elite). The chicoms grabbed him for a reason. They made a statement directly to the LPC with his arrest
Paul,
Is it possible that these Canadians serve as a group of activist Agents??? Canada’s Ambassador is a member of an International group of CANADIAN trained agents…”Mr. Dominic Barton was appointed as Canada’s Ambassador to the People’s Republic of the China by the Right Honourable Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on September 4, 2019. Prior to his nomination, Ambassador Barton was a Global Managing Partner at McKinsey & Company where he served from 2009 to 2018.” Susan Rice (Obama’s liar) is part of that Mckinsey CELL… The connection between foreign policy think Tanks (Brookings) & Agents becomes obvious….
China & Russia don’t allow the same foolishness as Western Nations regarding Social Engineering actions….
A trial in China, that is open, could reveal interesting information…..Good or Bad ?
JMHO
“is it possible that these Canadians serve as a group of activist Agents???”
I wouldn’t doubt it for a minute. There are allot of things China could have done to Canada as reprisal for Meng other that taking “businessmen” hostages. That would in fact derail their credibility with business worldwide, so why bother?
Regardless China is not a country you get into business with in the first place, that was the first biggest mistake the west made with them, along with making them the Dictatorial economic superpower in the first place.
Anyone stupid enough to go to China is kinda asking for it. Not a lot of sympathy. If you want to avoid issues with totalitarian police states, don’t travel to the them.
For sure. You can bet they were being very well paid for whatever they were doing. You gotta learn that you pays your money, you take your chances. Despite that, I wouldn’t wish it on anyone…except Antifa members.
The bought and paid for media will quickly drop this news. Oh look, Justin has new funny socks!
I think red socks are out.
Barney purple, hot pink, no white, black of course…
I have a question?
How can the Chicomms have Canada’s government by God balls it obviously doesn’t have?
“… the balls…”
Maybe tow a submarine back and forth along the coast?
The only reason these two are still alive is to give the pretense that they can be spared if the Canadian government does something.
The obvious “something” has to do with the bird in the guilded cage in Vancouver. The operative is that the release is only implied and never actually stated.
The two Mikes could be anyone, their use was only to force the compliance of a weak Canadian government. If it was a government less concerned about the optics of cooperating with the Trump administration, Meng would have been sent to New York not long after her arrest in Vancouver. However, the chicoms have made the measure of the current government and saw an easy mark. It will make no difference even if Meng is released from custody and leaves on the next plane to China, the two Mikes where never part of a negotiation tactic.
The chicoms are not people that do anything in good faith, they lie all the time.
Trudeau still seems to demonstrate a belief that just by virtue of being Canadian the chicoms will suddenly change their mind and set the two Mikes free, if he has any idea otherwise he certainly hasn’t shown it.
The corruption of the Liberal Party of Canada is as well known to the Chicoms as it is to normal Canadians not under the spell of the sick fucks.
It is why they are perplexed by the presentation of “justice” that isn’t political when every single thing the CLP of Canada says or does is politically motivated to get, maintain and increase their power.
The Canadian “justice” system has been structured and designed and is mostly run by Corrupt Liberals locally, provincially and federally. And the Cons that are part of it are no better, taking what they can get like all the trough-feeders.
“…And the Cons that are part of it are no better, taking what they can get like all the trough-feeders.’
Bingo! The Conservative’s virtual silence about Canada’s humiliating treatment by the chicomms means that they don’t want to piss off their own corrupt friends with Chinese investments and obligations. And they don’t want to piss off turdo’s corrupt friends either, because friends like that will switch allegiance in a second and the Conservatives would be quite happy with those rats aboard their ship as well.
I call Bullshit if Harper was still in power this China crap would never have started let alone continue this long. Sick and tired of you pricks running down the conservatives and they arnt even in power .Move to Ontario or Quebec where you are expected to bitch full time
“If Harper was still in power”. What a wise statement. Ranks right up there with, “If only scheer-the-steer and his mice would grow balls”.
I’ll stay here in Ontario and bitch to my heart’s content about your nutless wonders, and you stay in whatever hotbed of pink Conservatism you hail from and keep shaking your little pom-poms for them.
“The corruption of the Liberal Party of Canada is as well known to the Chicoms…..”
Bingo! Because their a big part of it. They couldn’t believe that this slimy corrupt Liberal Party didn’t subvert Canadian Law like they would any other corruption ass covering time.
Could you imagine what China evil empire Surveillance System has on Canada’s Liberal Party, it would make Hitlery Clingon weep.
It could only mean that someone Bigger has something bigger on Blackface.
In a nation that claims it believes in equality for all why not give Ms Ming equivalent incarceration ?
Hopefully the message from China will be received loud and clear by all international businesses. Set foot in our country and you might find yourself on an extended vacation no matter what you’ve done.
I’ve never set foot in a commie country before in my life because I know what can easily happen. Something to think about for those that vacation in Cuba.
Does this mean that they will spend another five hundred days and no one cares about them?
The reason why these men are still in Chinese prisons is the reason why Justin gets to be a corrupt prick: Canadians don’t care.
Perhaps if the ignoramuses who go to China for a quick buck or to breathe its polluted air might care if their fingernails are being extracted.
The Liberals are back but Canada isn’t, except with the battle climate change by depressing economies watermelon crowd.
The one-third that takes to not give to another one-third? We’re back with them, to the tune of about $300b this year.
Despots rule through iron will and strength and that is all they respond do. They will bully beat anyone they can.
Make it so they can’t, as Donald Trump has only begun to do, which is why Xi would help Biden if he had the chance.
If we had leadership with testicular fortitude in Canada, we would tell the Chinese to shove off if they don’t like our laws.
Tell them to return our people, or do as we have done, show evidence of crimes, or they can return their students and guests.
Now. Then extradite Meng now. If Canada relents and refuses extradition, don’t count on those two Canadians coming home.
That would make China look weak, and they are strong, so we must be weak, especially our little potato surrender monkey.
Breaking news….Blackie is “very disappointed” and Freeland is angry. Not enough appeasement I guess.
Freeland will show the ChiComms whats up. She will start to wear something other than a red dress.
Might I suggest that PM Juthtin Trudeau appeal to our two international power brokers Sleepy Joe Biden and Hunter “Coke Head” Biden to act as intermediaries between Ottawa and Beijing in facilating the release of the two Mikes.
Sleepy Joe ably demonstrated his foreign policy acumen as Obama’s VP. He was (by his own admission) very effective in blackmailing Ukraine to fire it’s prosecutor or face the consequences of no US money. As both Bidens have deep ties ($$$) to China, let’s see what they can accomplish for our close ally Canada. I believe one phone call from Joe to Xi would do it.