Wuhan Flu

Wuhan Flu 94 Comments

A morning sampling.

This is insane: In a memo this week, Dean Lett, director of long-term care for the city [of Ottawa], asked families to stop visiting their loved ones at windows “to help ensure that physical distancing remains in place for all our residents.”

Practicing communist De Blasio’s stubborn refusal to take the coronavirus seriously may have caused thousands of deaths.

Ask him about Taiwan: The WHO refuses to clear WHO official Dr. Bruce Aylward to speak at the Parliamentary Health Committee. The committee may take the unusual step of issuing a summons, which would force Aylward to testify.

At Instapundit:

Patterns of COVID-19 Mortality and Vitamin D: An Indonesian Study. A Facebook friend’s succinct summary of the findings in this study: “Just under half (49.7%) of cases had normal vitamin D status, and only 4% of them died. Just over a quarter (27%) had insufficient vitamin D status, and most of them (88%) died. Just under a quarter (23%) had deficient vitamin D status, and almost all of them (99%) died.”
 
The study calls anything over 30 ng/ml as normal Vitamin D; my doctor prefers in the neighborhood of 60. No guarantee from these data, though, that more is better, but I wouldn’t be surprised if that were the case. On the other hand, you’d expect lower death rates in Italy and Spain than Germany, then, wouldn’t you? Or are that many Germans going on winter holidays in the Greek islands?

Cardiac risks are not getting nearly enough attention: Retrospective study of out-of-hospital cardiac arrest in Lombardy, Italy, during first 40 days of #COVID19 outbreak. There was a 58% increase compared with same period in previous year. Of the extra cases, 77.4% suspected or confirmed to have Covid-19.

Hydroxychloroquine by the state: Cases vs Recoveries

Please let this be true: Tests in recovered patients in S. Korea found false positives, not reinfections

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94 Replies to “Wuhan Flu”

  1. Well looks like Donald Trump was right about HCQ and good news about the false positives in Korea.

    Now if only our stupid governments would ordain masks and work. There may never be a vaccine.

    2. “There may never be a vaccine.”

      Agree with you, Robert of Ottawa.

      The common cold is a corona virus and try as they might, there has never been a vaccine for the cold.

      This is now all about control. The original thinking may have been a good idea because nobody knew what we were dealing with but there’s a lot more information now.

      Those so-called leaders who take their orders from non elected bureaucrats in their ivory towers are now beginning to read their own press clippings and are really enjoying their new found powers.

      They will not give control up easily. Control is a drug that feels really good.

      Reply

      1. Do you mean like income taxes? A “temporary” measure to Fight the War (against the virus)?

      2. Frank, no vaccine for the cold, are you shitting me, They can’t make one vaccine to cover ALL the different types of corona cold virus’. But can and have developed one for various strains in the past.

    3. There “may” never be a vaccine..?

      Here, Let me change that for you:
      There will never be a Vaccine for this Virus EVER.

      Just as it there will never be a “vaccine” for the Flu, MERS, Ebola, SARS, H1N1, H1N5, Bird Flu, Swine Flu, Spish fkn flu, HIV the common cold or any other VIRAL infection. NOT ONE….Ever. Our ONLY defense is our natural immune system that in this case is being compromised by GOVT IGNORANCE, Interference and with an insatiable desire for control to “Not let this Crisis go to Waste”.

      I grew in the 50′ – 60’s. I ate dirt as a kid, swam in swamp like waters and likely drank some of that…we got bit by bugs, scratched by branches, ALL cause we were OUTSIDE playing. What do you suppose that did for our immune systems eh.??

      Personally, I’m done with this BS Lockdown. Open up the Parks – let the kids play, open up the Provincial parks and let their parents play. And get my kids and all the others who desperately NEED to work – back to work..!!!
      Enough of this shit.
      IMO…of course.

      And fer the Record: 2000 mcg Vit D daily…as it has been for decades.

      1. As an Aside.
        That TWITTER feed from that Dr was AWESOME…!! and Most interesting.
        Since the first day 2.5 months ago upon hearing HCQ + had some efficacy, I have also noted that Official Govt, WHO, CDC, Health Canada, Hadju, Tham et all… Response & their MEDIA Enablers have SHAT upon it mercilessly.

        WHY.? (Can’t let a good Crisis go to waste perhaps..??)
        When this shit is over…? I smell a RECKONING coming.

        For Certain, “trust in Govt” will has dropped off a precipice.

      2. That’s what I take, 2000 mcg daily now. Been doing at least 1000 mcg a day for years. Didn’t get much sunshine at work all day and a lot of all nights, drilling oil and gas wells across the west. My biggest bugbear was zippo for sleep, average 2-3 hours a day at work, some times 24 hrs a day working. Make that most times. When I first drilled wells our flush water was from a slough. You showered in that stuff, water bugs and all. Brought my own drinking water then.
        I’m a child of the 50’s, we left in the AM, returned when the whistle blew. My Mum had great lungs. The only time I ever saw a TV (most didn’t have one) were on rain days. Schools used to turn us outside to blow off steam at recess and lunch. The walking wounded collected at the nurse’s office. The school yards were packed. Entrepreneurial development began early, if it wasn’t marbles it was sports cards. Snow ball wars raged and nobody put an eye out. On weekends it was dam building, fort construction/destruction, or tree climbing, swimming, skating…I used to skate the creek from my house to school in the winter. Hockey. By age 6 I’d already acquired enough stitches to look like Stan Makita. These days the school yards and parks are empty. Bubble wrapped kids.

        1. I totally agree with you about growing up in the late 50’s, early 60’s. If you got hurt, you DID not tell our father, who would whip out the Mecurachrome (sp?) to dab on, all the while smoking a cigarette and dribbling ash into your wound while he cussed you out. You just “toughed it out”.

      3. I get 20 mcg in my daily multivitamin. 10-15 mcg (400 IU) is recommended for 50 -70 year olds.

      4. Okay Boomer.

        “I grew in the 50′ – 60’s. I ate dirt as a kid, swam in swamp like waters and likely drank some of that…we got bit by bugs, scratched by branches, ALL cause we were OUTSIDE playing. What do you suppose that did for our immune systems”

        There is an Ebola vaccine…and vaccines for various other viruses like Polio.

        “I grew in the 50′ – 60’s. I ate dirt as a kid, swam in swamp like waters and likely drank some of that…we got bit by bugs, scratched by branches, ALL cause we were OUTSIDE playing. What do you suppose that did for our immune systems”

        It was probably pretty bad for you because of the abundance of lead and other pollutants in the environment at the time.

        1. It was probably pretty bad for you because of the abundance of lead and other pollutants in the environment at the time.

          You’ll have picked up far more of those licking windows.

    4. “looks like Donald Trump was right about HCQ ”

      No it doesn’t. There’s still no serious evidence it’s good for anything COVID related.

      2. Twitter post from Dr Zev Zelenko https://twitter.com/zev_dr/status/1255510767526465537?s=19

        “The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) presented data on 2333 patients treated with hydroxychloroquine…across the globe that shows 91.6 percent of those who got the drug fared better after treatment.”

        Daily Mail:
        US doctors claim that Trump’s controversial hydroxychloroquine drug DOES help 91% of coronavirus patients and argue we should not wait for ‘controlled trials’
        https://t.co/Ou1Qg9Fy9j

  2. Vitamin D deficiency causes increased mortality. Our solution is to lock everyone in their house and arrest them if they go outside.

    3. About 42% of the US population is vitamin D deficient. However, this rate rises to 82% in black people and 70% in Hispanics (5
      Trusted Source
      From Jamieson:
      Age group
      Recommended Dietary Allowance (RDA) per day
      Tolerable Upper Intake Level (UL) per day
      Infants 0-6 months
      400 IU (10 mcg) (Adequate Intake rather than Recommended Dietary Allowance.)
      1000 IU (25 mcg)
      Infants 7-12 months
      400 IU (10 mcg) (Adequate Intake rather than Recommended Dietary Allowance.)
      1500 IU (38 mcg)
      Children 1-3 years
      600 IU (15 mcg)
      2500 IU (63 mcg)
      Children 4-8 years
      600 IU (15 mcg)
      3000 IU (75 mcg)
      Children and Adults
      9-70 years
      600 IU (15 mcg)
      4000 IU (100 mcg)
      Adults > 70 years
      800 IU (20 mcg)
      4000 IU (100 mcg)
      Pregnancy & Lactation
      600 IU (15 mcg)
      4000 IU (100 mcg)

  3. That’s one heck of a twitter thread. In some states the introduction of Hydroxychloroquine was quite dramatic. The governor of Oregon should be arrested for criminal stupidity and negligence.

    1. I thought America was the land of the free. Someone should tell the jerk “You aren’t my mother”or “I’m not your property”. We could use a lot of that up here North of 49.

  4. With the population density of NYC I doubt much would have changed. I guess they could have welded peoples doors shut. That said the Deblase is just one more communist.

    1. Are they still using the subways in NY? Which is nuts because you are trapped in a metal tube, and if you are sick.
      Well you all know what will happen.

      Heck I was shocked that Seattle kept it’s buses running until the people spoke up and said we are not riding these death machines.

    3. The other scandal is that New York as well as a couple of states mandated that nursing home HAD to accept Covid patients discharged from hospital who couldn’t return home. The homes protested but to no avail; infected seniors were sent into “clean” nursing homes where conditions were such that proper isolation was impossible. We all know what followed.. Cuomo has had the unmitigated gall to say he didn’t know about this mandate.

  5. Many thanks for sharing all that Covid-19 info, Kate …two comments:

    * Re Hydroxychloroquine > some states have very poor ‘success’ and others have startling success. I suspect that the states showing great success are using HCQ along with 2 other ingredients, HCQ + Azithromycin + zinc. I’m not on Twitter …could somebody who is on Twitter please ask on that string if the less successful states are using HCQ alone / not in combination.

    * Re Vitamin D > everyone can add cheap, over-the-counter vitamin D supplements (tiny, easy to swallow, clear yellow ‘pearls’) …in Canada the highest dose you can buy OTC is 1,000 mcg but in the U.S. you can buy similar tiny ‘pearls’ at a 5,000 mcg dose. According to one clinical study of 10,000 people that I read, more than half of North America’s population is deficient in vitamin D. Don’t bother getting tested, folks, just take a vitamin D supplement …and dial the use of sunscreen waaaay back.

    1. The natural source for Vitamin D is the sun. But stay scared in your houses people, there are fines for walking your dog, or talking to your neighbor, if you happen to stand too close to each other. This is starting to make 1984 like Orwell’s Nostradamus novel, it is being written DAILY in the Propaganda arm of the New World Order.

    2. HCQ is only effective if the patient is not at the severe stage. Damage is done then. That’s when it is not effective.
      So when you see the talking heads yapping that it doesn’t work, they leave out the part that it was given to intubated patients that were too far gone already.
      Propaganda, the art of not telling the whole story, just the severe slant and angle desired.

  6. Remember how Governor Cuomo said NYC had the best health care system in the world? And how New York had dealt with situations like this before, implying they’d be fine?

    We is the same situation playing out in Montreal? Remember Legault’s famous “it’s under control?”

    Now there are COVID problems at two Montreal hospitals.

    https://montrealgazette.com/news/quebec/quebec-plans-to-open-up-the-tap-for-some-travel-in-the-regions/wcm/dafebed7-339d-487d-8ed0-2780e858ba25/

  7. good to know that ottawa’s stupidity is out in the community, not just in parliament. I did not know that the corona virus can go through glass.

  8. Had anyone at all yet asked these very important questions:

    How come all retail businesses and offices across the globe have installed the poly-carbonate screens at the cash registers, overnight?
    Where had they obtained the industrially manufactured screens in such gigantic quantities?
    How had the manufacturer of these screens (which company, by the way) known ahead of time or had the capacity to make them on such a short notice?
    When had this project started, and who had ordered these screens wholesale?

    The screens had been supplied simultaneously with the PPE stockpiles vanishing. THIS SOUNDS FISHY.

  10. Guess where the first diagnosed case of WuFlu in the United States came from?

    “The first diagnosis of the coronavirus in the United States occurred in mid-January, in a Seattle suburb not far from the hospital where Dr. Francis Riedo, an infectious-disease specialist, works. When he heard the patient’s details—a thirty-five-year-old man had walked into an urgent-care clinic with a cough and a slight fever, and told doctors that he’d just returned from Wuhan, China—Riedo said to himself, “It’s begun.”

    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/05/04/seattles-leaders-let-scientists-take-the-lead-new-yorks-did-not

  11. Empty hospitals all across Canada and the US.

    https://beta.ctvnews.ca/national/coronavirus/2020/4/29/1_4918208.amp.html

    People are not going to hospitals. Why? They are good sources of disease (see my 9:16 post above).

    That said we had better start having adult discussions about how to live with the presence of the virus. Kind of hard with Democrats and Liberals, I know.

    Trudeau has spent upwards of 150 billion for essentially four months of COVID economic mitigation measures. What happens in the fall when a second wave hits? Where will we get the money, and at what cost? Remember Liberals and Democrats are unlikely to do early border closures if the virus exists in other countries.

    If we flatten the curve; do the total number of deaths remain the same, just spread out over a longer period? What constitutes success IN THE LONG RUN.

    It’s time for adult discussions about different go forward options, and the trade-offs involved. In my opinion there are no zero death solutions.

    1. Joe, this is my point, too.

      The idea behind “flatten the curve” was to keep the amount if infected people below the threshold of hospital capacity. As you posted, hospitals are empty.

      Flatten the curve doesn’t get rid of the virus, it just spreads it out over time. I say it’s time to take the foot off the brakes and begin to get back to normal.

      The longer this takes, the more people will suffer from other ailments…and still get the CCP Virus.

    2. When the government keeps starving its people, the people start to rebel. That gives the government the cover to really crack down on “terrorists”. Right out of the good old Tienamen Square handbook.

    3. What constitutes success IN THE LONG RUN.

      Getting the right balance of not destroying the economy and liberty (i.e. the country) whilst avoiding overwhelming the health / morgue systems. Keep as much running as possible; let the infections spread as fast as the systems can cope with; protect the vulnerable until virus is mitigated.

      Always with a weather eye on the enemy. Chinese communists will happily let 20 million Chinese die to ramp up their economy while the West grinds to a halt “if it saves just one life”.

    4. You live with every virus the same way as we have lived with the flu for hundreds of years.

      1. That’s one of the stupidest things I’ve ever read. Please do tell Polio victims to just ‘get over it’.

        2. My mother was given a new “medicine” which would absolutely help her with her morning sickness. She took one pill, prescribed by her East Indian doctor in rural Alberta, who was a wonderful doctor, but totally engaged with the pharamasutical industry.

          She listened to a still small voice that told her to never take another pill and throw out the entire description.

          If my mother hadn’t gone with the still small voice, I wouldn’t be able to type this out.

          Thanks again Mom, for not take any more…

          Thalidomide

    5. Hey Joe,
      Do you seriously need to ask where will we get the money? Simple, they will just print it! Of course, the actual dollar value will tank, and what cost a hundred bucks now, will cost a hundred and fifty bucks at years end, and the value of pensions will be cut in half. These people are rich. Do you really think they care about us, about our welfare? No! They only care about power and control, cheap labour and a subservient fearful population! Nuff said.

      1. Money, or gold, silver and everything else for that matter, have not had any value for a long time.
        The dollar is just an accounting system to document trade between people, with the government taking their cut right off the top, both ways, earned and spent.

  12. “It is so clear that these guys took the dirty money from CCP’s Chicken China.”
    I found this tweet to be somewhat confusing.
    Is
    “CCP’s Chicken China” a dish inn a chinese restaurant like egg fu yung.

    PS
    I hope every effen chinese restaurant in the whole world goes belly up.

    1. Dude referred to is Dr Chris Mortenson.
      Fauci is a slimy dweeb, playing both sides against the middle.

    2. HCQ therapy is not proven to be promising. As it stands, there is much more reason to support Remde.

      1. 1. What, good readers, constitutes proven? Or disproven?

        2. Drug X could be used to treat; a) the severely ill, b) the moderately ill, c) brand new cases, d) prophylactically.

        3. If for case b) 50% of the patients on drug A survive, but only 40% survive if not on any drug, does this mean the drug works?

        4. Throw in other factors such as: differing underlying medical conditions, different ages, male vs female, overall physical fitness, age, etc., and you start to appreciate the difficulties in assessing if it works or not.

        5. Sample size plays an important roll in trying to determine successfully significant results from mere chance.

        6. What level of improvement contstitutes “success”? If Drug A could improve your chance of surviving from 40% to 50% would that be a successful drug or a failure?

        Complicated? Yes it is.

        Has anyone seen a listing of drug trials that are underway, complete with the sample sizes and results? Has the maim street media even stated that the CDC, WHO, (or any other organization) is collecting trial results, collating them, and is going to share the results (along with the raw data)?

  14. Very interesting thread on HCQ. Some of the states show quite a dramatic divergence that seems to correspond to the release/introduction of HCQ. Perhaps coincidental?

    I am looking forward to the many sanctioned studies that should be able to provide some preliminary results quite soon. I hope that these results, good or bad, will be conducted with integrity and with the clear goal of helping our fellow mankind (whoops, sorry, peoplekind)

    Great resource is http://www.clinicaltrials.gov

    Another cheap, possibly effective medication is favipiravir produced by a subsidiary of Fujifilm
    Good question above about inclusion of Zinc. Zelenko has pretty much stated that it is the most important part of the equation and the HCQ allows for better cell access/absorption

    Also, go easy on the Vitamin D folks. You can over do it. Whether in pill or natural form!

    1. Hey Chris, wrt vitamin D do you have recommendations as to where to find current material on its risks?

      I have a great interest in the vitamin D topic.

      Thanks

      1. Nope, sorry I don’t but all I know is that Vitamin D is an oil soluble vitamin. Too much can lead to liver toxicity I believe. Too much sunshine leads to other problems 🙂

        I am sure there are some pretty reputable sites out there, including the Canada Food Guide than can provide further guidance.

        Don’t go to the FDA as they don’t use science like Health Canada and are directed by the bad orange man to do his evil bidding

        1. Thanks Chris,
          seems to be very strong correlation between many (most?) Auto immune disease & vitamin D deficiency. Hence my interest.

          I’ve also noticed recommended levels of vitamin D have been slowly but steadily rising for some time.

          Anyways, thanks again!
          Cheers

  15. Many great comments today, too many to single out. Excellent thread overall.

    I would respectfully recommend the following commentator. Adam Daniel Mesei. ADM: Fire Teresa Tam!
    About 15 minutes, extremely well worth it. He has courage, he speaks up. Definitely not PC & but also not racist. Jmho.

    https://youtu.be/2GkZWx1PAFg

    Ps: as already suggested today, Chris Martenson at Peak Prosperity is well worth checking out. I really liked his post from 2 days ago “Why is the news still so inaccurate”

    Cheers

    1. ANY criticism of Badteeth Tam is racisssssssssssss, dontcha know?

      The fact she is corrupted by the WHO has nothing to do with it, of course!

    1. If commitee compels him to appear, that would be an actual win.

      Then they’d have to ask tough pointed questions & so forth.

      I hope they compel him but fully expect they won’t.

      1. Agree with your expectation. The Liberal chair of the committee, Ron McKinnon, will be ordered by Trudeau to prevent any summons from being issued.

        1. I’m sure you’re right.

          Maybe that committee meeting, with its illiberal chair, should be recorded & widely circulated.

          If it generated enough views maybe the sunshine would help.

          Cheers

  18. I’m waiting for knee surgery so cannot go walking. I do however sit on my front porch between 11 and 3 pm on days the sun is shining to get my Vitamin D. Those stats about Vitamin D are amazing. I’ve not seen any doctor comment on them so far.

    1. My doctor of some 30 years has said on more than one occasion, never mind the sun, unless you live in Mexico or Arizona and spend at least 8 hrs a day in said SUN , ya need to supplement your intake.

      Take 2 Vit D daily (not sure if its 2000mcg or 2000 IU or what…far too many ways to state it. But I take 2 of the golden liquid pills daily and have been since the early 90’s.

      No issues to date.

  19. Despite De Blasio, never put doctors in control of decision making over the masses. For 2 reasons. None of them were elected to be doctors and not one of them has ever made a mistake in their professional life.

    1. I’ve been assured that they are right wing kooks, Wikipedia says so. And so we are to discount their input. Usually the more TDS folks I know attack my FB postings of anything positive in the fight against a virus.

  21. President Trump and Vice-President Trump have both been leading from the front of the WuFlu battle lines, leaving Washington to inspire Americans, especially in critical manufacturing plants. Here is the latest:

    “President Trump will visit a Honeywell facility in Arizona next week to highlight critical medical equipment production along with the addition of 500 manufacturing jobs. “Honeywell expects to produce more than six million N95 masks for Arizona over the next year to combat the coronavirus outbreak,” KTAR News reports. ”

    By sharp contrast, Trudeau has left the front steps of his hidey hole but a few times, once to spend Easter with his family at a multi-million dollar retreat and two or three times to show up in Parliament for a few hours. And yet a majority of Canadians support his leadership through the crisis. The power of the mainstream media, all singing from the same song sheet, to shape the minds of Canadians has never been more evident in my life time.

    1. Can’t let you have the last word.

      “Those kids in Parkland came up to see me when I was vice president.” — Biden, Aug. 10, 2019. The Parkland shooting was a year after Biden left office.

      “When the stock market crashed, Franklin D. Roosevelt got on the television and didn’t just talk about the, you know, the princes of greed.” — Biden, 2008, in a CBS interview. Television had not yet been invented in 1929, and Roosevelt was not yet president.

      Biden asked her if she had ever attended a caucus. When Moore said yes, Biden responded: “No you haven’t! You’re a lying, dog-faced pony soldier.”

      And the new stuff needs to be seen, because you can’t cut and paste drool

    1. And how do you think the first diagnosed case of WuFlu got to the U.S.?

      “The first diagnosis of the coronavirus in the United States occurred in mid-January, in a Seattle suburb not far from the hospital where Dr. Francis Riedo, an infectious-disease specialist, works. When he heard the patient’s details—a thirty-five-year-old man had walked into an urgent-care clinic with a cough and a slight fever, and told doctors that he’d just returned from Wuhan, China—Riedo said to himself, “It’s begun.”

      https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/05/04/seattles-leaders-let-scientists-take-the-lead-new-yorks-did-not

      1. LOL, don’t let facts get in the way of your narrative! 🙂 Look at the scramble to try and cover China’s ass.

        I would put money on the spread in BC happening due to a person working in a care home coming back from a Chinese visit. Many of the care homes in BC are private and owned by Chinese interests. But, hey, it is still the WuFlu, it started there, it spread from there, and they are the ones responsible.

        1. “LOL, don’t let facts get in the way of your narrative!”

          That’s some intense projection right there.

          “I would put money on the spread in BC happening due to a person working in a care home coming back from a Chinese visit.”

          Doesn’t matter. The facts are what they are.

    2. Ontario’s first 4 cases came from China, next 3 from Iran.
      The article reports data as of April 17, 2020 if that is early.

    3. Why do the hardest covid 19 hit places in Canada also have the highest amount of Chinese Tourists and residents? It’s a mystery……
      When this all started, the hardest hit was Asia, the US, and Italy.
      The Chinese tourists favourite places to go? Asia , the US, and Italy.
      Imagine that.

    4. As stupid as they come, this Schijt Smool

      Right..So, given our Large Chinese Population…how many went back for Chinese /new years and came back with the virus…?? how many to/from Wuhan..??? And yet, all our early cases supposedly came from the US.?? CANADA that steadfastly Refused to Close our Border and BAN all CHINA flights.??

      Hell the Nat Post actually came out and said: “..Despite this evidence, the Federal government brought in travel restrictions on China first…” LMAO..!! uhuh..

      RESTRICTIONS..?? What Fkn Restrictions ??
      THERE WERE ZERO RESTRICTIONS – It was WIDE Freaking open and remains that way TODAY…!!!

      But like a good little CPC Soldier, Schijt Smool buys the MSM BS hook line n sinker. Nat Post as useless as the RED STAR these days…GARBAGE, Misinformation & Propaganda

  24. How do Democrats handle the Wuhan flu? Two examples:

    They take masks Americans sent to New York for needy people to use, and put them in an art exhibit.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/495251-cuomo-unveils-portrait-of-america-a-wall-of-hundreds-of-protective-masks

    Remember Pelosi gave $25 million in aid to the Kennedy Center, which promptly laid off a whole bunch of workers.

    I suppose it’s better behaviour than exhibited by their presidential candidate.

    1. But, but, but, she is a woman graphic designer with a foreign sounding last name from Thunder Bay.
      To bad we can’t use the backbencher, also from Thunder Bay, the male emergency room doctor, as the Minister of Health.

    2. Remember Dr Tam was telling us masks don’t work while China was buying up most of the masks in Canada.

      1. Exactly.

        She needs to be called before Parliamentary Committee to answer for this.

        Maybe same committee thinking about maybe compelling Bruce Aylward to appear.

        If there was ever a time for MP’s to find their moral spines, it would be now.

        How to pressure MP’s to act I wonder?

  28. Great juxtaposition, excellent news on vitimin D contrasted with care bound elders being kept away from windows.
    Beautiful.
    While reading through contributors’ many good comments here (less one blithering idiot) a ‘doctor’ came on the nuze opining on the efficacy of Remdesivir. He said he felt it would do better if combined with some kind of anti-inflamitory like Prednisone, i.e. trolling the informed.

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