When The FBI Does It, That Means That It’s Not Illegal

WSJ;

The Justice Department now believes it should have discontinued its secret surveillance of one-time Trump campaign adviser Carter Page far earlier than it did, according to a new court filing unsealed Thursday.
 
The Justice Department made that determination in a December letter to the secret court that oversees surveillance of suspected foreign spies, acknowledging it may have lacked probable cause to continue wiretapping in the last two of the four surveillance applications it sought against Mr. Page.
 
The government began the surveillance in late 2016, after he left the Trump campaign, and continued monitoring him until late 2017—ultimately obtaining a warrant and three subsequent renewals. The last two applications were submitted in April and June of 2017. It now has concluded there was “insufficient predication to establish probable cause” in the last two renewals, which authorized about six months of surveillance on the former adviser.
 
Probable cause is the legal standard to obtain a secret warrant against suspected agents of a foreign power from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, the secret judicial panel that approves such warrants.
 
The Justice Department letter is classified, but is referenced in a new order declassified by the judge that heads the FISA court, James Boasberg, on Thursday. The Justice Department said it would sequester all the material it collected against Mr. Page pending further internal review of the matter.

34 Replies to “When The FBI Does It, That Means That It’s Not Illegal”

  1. The Justice Department now believes it should have discontinued its secret surveillance of one-time Trump campaign adviser Carter Page far earlier than it did…after they got caught

    1. You beat me to it. They’re just trying to get out ahead of the Durham indictments, pretending that’s it’s only just now they’ve come to this realization. Total BS. They knew all along. From Day One. This was a straight up Deep State banana republic surveillance operation pre 2016 election, followed up by an even Deeper State post election soft coup. People better be going to prison for this or else there’s gonna be trouble.

    2. Everybody just calm down, The FIB department has apologized.

      They didn’t mean to ̶g̶e̶t̶ ̶c̶a̶u̶g̶h̶t̶ ̶d̶o̶i̶n̶g̶ do it.

  2. Well THAT’S good to read … that the government will “sequester” all the “evidence” collected about Carter Page. We know THAT will secure the evidence! As securely as videotape of Jeffrey Epstein’s cell.

    1. Look carefully. It was not ‘about’. They said ‘against’, because they didn’t and don’t want to see anything that is or was exculpatory.

      “The Justice Department said it would sequester all the material it collected against Mr. Page pending further internal review of the matter.”

      Internal and secret review, nice, I’d trust it if I were Mr. Carter Page.

      1. We’re going to keep all our secret spying info secret, just in case, you know. If I were Page, I would demand it all be handed over to him personally by the headd of the FBI and FISA court.

    2. Kenji, that means there is probable cause that all materials collected , were so done illegally, and any and all convictions obtained due to that material could be over turned. Sequestering is a legal move that will have all the deep state player schitting themselves

  3. Nothing will happen. The scheme was hatched at the highest levels of the Obama administration. It would be racist to investigate Obama’s role in authorizing this surveillance.

  4. sooooooo this im’peach’ment thingy turning into a real ‘peach’ for the demoncraps.
    all part of the larger process.
    wonder what sort of comeuppance options are rolling around in POTUS Trump’s bean.

  5. They know they can get away with it, which they will, so they go ahead and do it.
    Unless criminal justice is their consequence, or some major administrative state purge, nothing will change.
    They know they can get away with lying to voters, which they have, so they go ahead and do it.
    Unless voters call them on this abrogation of their liberty, which they haven’t, nothing will change.
    Fat and happy voters are the most dangerous of all. Oblivious would be an understatement. Take note Mr. Trump.

  6. “cops are tops”
    p.s. SDA, GET USED TO IT.
    “cops are tops”
    “cops are tops”

    ha ha ha !!!!!
    “cops are tops”
    yep.
    including the locals who showed up right after I got kicked by a drunk, flatly REFUSED to look at ANY of the surveillance videos and promptly *blamed the whole thing on me*.
    “cops are tops”

  7. The Judges are chosen from the cesspool of corrupt Lawyers and we allow this Legal slime to regulate themselves… Nothing will change until self regulation is eliminated and the NORMAL members of American citizens provide regulation and oversight of the Legal communities….. Including Judges

    The dirty little secret that the Prosecutors & defense lawyers collude against Innocent suspects creating a probable circumstantial (story book) case resulting in an easy conviction (They call it getting to the Truth)… This Is Corrupt… Circumstantial evidence is a huge problem and not possible without collusion resulting in Innocent people going to jail

    The Miranda rights must have additional warnings that YOU are Innocent until proven guilty, you do not have to prove your innocence (it’s not possible) a defense lawyer may be your worst nightmare.

    JMHO

    1. Too many judges are just incompetent lawyers who happen to be good at fundraising for Democrats and Liberals. Otherwise, they would never get appointed.

  8. You know, the deep state, or whatever you want to call it, could make all their worries to go away by just throwing her under the bus.
    The mob would have what it wants.
    The media would have what it wants.
    And everyone in DC could go back to business as usual.
    Obviously they are not as smart as they presume to be.

  9. It was a throwaway.

    All that matters was the first one. They then used that to “two hop” to everyone in the Trump campaign. Page was never the target, just the way in. Dan Bongino has covered this extensively.

    1. riffer73….and they can go back wards and forward to infinity on any one they snag in such a case

      1. I think they can investigate everything backwards and forwards until the FISA expires. They can use anything they found, they just have to find it before the FISA expires.

  10. You just gotta love the FBI swearing evidence that Page was in contact with the Russians without saying that his work for the CIA was to contact the Russians. People should be in jail.

    1. Words do not describe the pain and shame experienced by tax-paying Americans who grapple with the understanding that they now live in a sh!thole.

      1. The greatest service Donald has done the American people is to expose the alphabet agencies for what they are; which exposure has just begun. May God protect him from the awesome power of his enemies.
        Pretty nice shithole though. Wanna trade?

  11. Lawyers n Judges eh..??
    That they collude is beyond question… one happy family of disgusting parasites. With many of them bordering on the criminally Insane:

    Pick any 12…and at least 3 of them ate certifiable.

  12. “it should have discontinued its secret surveillance of one-time Trump campaign adviser Carter Page far earlier than it did”

    Since they lied to get the FISA warrant, why should anyone believe the FBI has discontinued their secret surveillance even now?
    Come on people. These are the guys who murdered 80+ men, women, and children at Waco Texas.

    1. Ooz, quit being stupid, David Koresh could have walked out of that burning building at any time, and had the rest of them follow out, why do asshole like you keep humping those lies. Koresh decided to Jimmy Jones it, because he knew that he would be tried for statutory rape, and do life. Now quit yer effing lying

      1. The flir tape says people who tried to leave that burning building were machine gunned. NO. NO. No no no no. Those were reflections off tin cans. They only look like machine gun fire.
        Who is lying?

    2. Amen. My Dad, the original Rock-Ribbed Republican, has been telling me since 1992, Ruby Ridge, that the Feds were lawless renegades. I thought he was extreme. As with most everything else, he was right.

  13. Kenji, that means there is probable cause that all materials collected , were so done illegally, and any and all convictions obtained due to that material could be over turned. Sequestering is a legal move that will have all the deep state player schitting themselves

  14. The bureaucracy in fact is a cancer on the population.
    It spreads just like it, it destroys those that it supposed to serve.
    Politicians are the fertilizer that covers it up, make it palatable to the plebeians with lingo gymnastics.

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