While the OPP did the right thing this really isn’t all that bad. That pin which is obviously inadequate is still way safer that trusting Elon Musk’s coders for his Tesla autopilot programming.
FYI, there’s some lint in your HTML: “a>”
With a slow moving sign on the back, staying under 40km/h, and if modified for farm use I don’t see anything wrong here!
Of course Funtario would pull it over. They pull everything over.
Yep, that exactly. I was pulled over for a rusty license plate back in 2002. So I moved out of the country.
The only problem I see is that Epstein didn’t kill himself.
The setup doesn’t look much different from an aircraft tug.
The pintle design is much, much stronger than that rig! I don’t know what’s scarier, the ragged ears of the metal beam on the trailer, or the fact the pin holes in it are oversized to the pin itself, or the receiver is also not the right size for the coupler, looks like a 2” coupler in a 2.5” receiver!!
Give it an escort and a wide berth and stick to the secondary roads!
Driver’s licences are classed for trailer weight, not length, >10,000 lbs = class 1/A required. <10,000 lbs, class 3/D required.
Registered gross weight, not actual gross weight if trailer us unloaded.
The charge was using an unauthorised “Slow Vehicle” triangle.
If he kept the speed down no big deal. Just don’t get the trailer swaying.
Scar, the longer the trailer, and/or hook up, the less likely hood of sway. And yes I’v done/do a lot of towing
Front wheels negates trailer length advantage.
air brakes make it up again, and yes, I driven tractor trailors and used to hold an A class licence , when they first came about. And the distance from hook up wheels to rear wheels also negate the sway thing.
I assume we’re talking about the male psyche that is equal parts innovation and recklessness, not just the truck-trailer setup. Yes, these qualities are part of the uniqueness of men and what has pushed progress forward (and sometimes backwards, to be fair).
Whenever I find my husband doing something particularly reckless, my standard comment is “We need to increase your life insurance.”
70 to 30 in favour of “applaud the driver”! Are SDA voters behind that?
Guilty as charged!
A/C Yeah. Innovative Applause.
If he had working air brakes I don’t see what the problem is.
Would need an air brake endorsement on his driver’s licence.
I suspect there is a reason the news story does not include the name of the driver involved…
If it was some guy just moving his storage trailer from one location to another not too far distant, and he stayed on secondary roads, I don’t see much problem. If he’s venturing out on the highway, or using that rig routinely, there could be a problem.
Did I see a safety chain on that rig? It’s all good then. 🙂
” – and today’s word is JACKKNIFE, boys and girls!” Rigging-up his own airbrakes, that would help. DESPERATELY hoping there’s nothing in the trailer; if there is and he got-up to any speed and had to stop, that trailer would go right over him.
Biggest problem here is there’s no weight on the back of a pickup truck; all the guys ’round here who drive them in the winter, put a round bale in the back to put some weight on the tires, and this guy should’ve done so too. Otherwise, if the trailer starts to overrun (or the airbrakes are unbalanced and pull a bit harder on one side), it’s going to get out-of-shape. Then with no weight on the back of the truck, the back-end will skid sideways, accordion the whole works and the trailer will end-up on top.
I’d call the cops – real fast. The life he takes with such chuckleheadedness, likely won’t just be his own.
hey will knott, you don’t know if there is, or isn’t weight in the back, and as been post he was doddling down back roads, not pulling a lot of speed. And at slow speed, your scenario of “jackknifing is highly improbable . Armchair analysists are just that anal. I ‘v seen a lot worst around here, and it’s usually “professional” drivers that cause mayhem
No doubt, this was prompted by “climate change”. Greta probably wouldn’t approve.
Kind of guy you want to know in the Zombie Apocalypse.
“This is why men will always run the world.” – Kate
L-Let me correct that headline for you. “This is why real men will always run the world !” 🙂
In appreciation of your unstinting defense of men and masculinity, each of the men of S.D.A. nation gift to you, a Christmas hug and kiss. To be delivered by our proxy, Lance, over the 12 days of Christmas, where ever mistletoe is hung, and in doses sufficient to distract from worldly woes.
Hitting the tip jar will be sufficient. 😉
I do a lot of towing, quite often I am towing airplanes (and especially gliders), so I bought a VW Touareg, which is very good at towing airplanes:
Don’t think I will be pulling anything like that any time soon, but cool nevertheless.
Mark, I’m not really clear about how Auto manufacturers compute their vehicles’ towing capacity.
Do they assume that the wheels of the trailer being towed are frictionless? That’s what makes all the difference.
Maybe Knott but maybe so ….he has weight in the back of the pickup….you just can’t see it.
I suspect a man who configures a setup like this knows more about trucks and trailers that the average Joe.
Well there was no duck tape involved so I gather Red Green would hold back on an opinion. That said, full marks for creativity, not so much on the understanding of basic safety. A 1/2 ton Chev is rated for about 8000 lbs towing. That trailer, brakes or not weighs in at I’m guessing, 25k at least. And as mentioned on this thread, the potential for jack knifing would be huge.
Still, good for a laugh
was the driver a woman?
I don t like feminists anymore than Kate does, but i’m not sure why she says ; ” this is why men will always run the world ”
maybe I read that article too fast? I don t see where it said a woman did that
Depending on the weight of the load it would be just about impossible to stop that sucker with a pick up, even with some sort of modified air brakes.
When highway trailers get old and tired they are often sold to farmers for feed storage etc. I have worked for Ont. farmers who would work their butt off for days so they wouldn’t have to pay a tradesman a few dollars or buy anything new. I’m guessing that is what is happening here. The trailer is going to its retirement home. EMPTY if it ain’t empty it ain’t safe. It might be possible to make this rig safe if everything was done just exactly right but indications are (undersize draw pin) Mickey Mouse has helped with this jury rig and where Mickey has been ain’t nuthin’ safe. The line from the air reservoir on the trailer tounge into the pickup box indicates an air compressor there so there is adequate air to operate the brakes. If he had the good sense to install a spike valve (a lot easier than coordinating with the pickup brakes) the trailer brakes would stop the pickup without the pickup using it’s brakes, IF…THE TRAILER BRAKES WERE PROPERLY ADJUSTED. If they were not the whole rig would would be in the ditch (or worse) at the first hint of hard braking. Why would he do this? When he could just rent a small semi tractor. No air endorsement on his license? Scary thot. Who adjusted those trailer brakes?
It’s a guy thing! I once had to deliver two massive vertical motors on a small flatbed Ford 1-1/2 ton truck. The overload
was so bad the front wheels barely made contact with the road. 40+ miles on the freeway and my arms were sore from
keeping the truck on a straight line. Men take challenges and risks that women would never take. I volunteered for
the job when the regular driver came back and said no way, it was too dangerous.
my hunch? the pickup truck driver calculated a fine would be less than the cost of hiring a traditional transport truck driver and rig.
if I had max confidence in the setup, I would consider this myself.
impressed with the truck AND the pin.
far out eh?
and finally a salute to all them big rig folks, the drivers, dispatchers, mechanics, support staff, warehousemen and women
who, (drum roll) keep us clothed, fed, housed, et frigging CETERA.
Amen to that – and MERRY CHRISTMAS, and a Happy ( – and SAFE!!! – ) New Year!
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While the OPP did the right thing this really isn’t all that bad. That pin which is obviously inadequate is still way safer that trusting Elon Musk’s coders for his Tesla autopilot programming.
FYI, there’s some lint in your HTML: “a>”
With a slow moving sign on the back, staying under 40km/h, and if modified for farm use I don’t see anything wrong here!
Of course Funtario would pull it over. They pull everything over.
Yep, that exactly. I was pulled over for a rusty license plate back in 2002. So I moved out of the country.
The only problem I see is that Epstein didn’t kill himself.
A pintle hook and loop are all that hold dolly-converters in multiple trailer rigs. The driver’s set-up was not all that much different.
https://www.vehicleservicepros.com/vehicles/under-vehicle-trailer-towing/article/20856811/do-dollies-right
http://products.safholland.us/sites/usa/en-US/products/couplingproducts/pages/default.aspx
Perhaps the charge was not being licenced for hauling trailers over 40 feet?
The setup doesn’t look much different from an aircraft tug.
The pintle design is much, much stronger than that rig! I don’t know what’s scarier, the ragged ears of the metal beam on the trailer, or the fact the pin holes in it are oversized to the pin itself, or the receiver is also not the right size for the coupler, looks like a 2” coupler in a 2.5” receiver!!
Give it an escort and a wide berth and stick to the secondary roads!
Driver’s licences are classed for trailer weight, not length, >10,000 lbs = class 1/A required. <10,000 lbs, class 3/D required.
Registered gross weight, not actual gross weight if trailer us unloaded.
The charge was using an unauthorised “Slow Vehicle” triangle.
If he kept the speed down no big deal. Just don’t get the trailer swaying.
Scar, the longer the trailer, and/or hook up, the less likely hood of sway. And yes I’v done/do a lot of towing
Front wheels negates trailer length advantage.
air brakes make it up again, and yes, I driven tractor trailors and used to hold an A class licence , when they first came about. And the distance from hook up wheels to rear wheels also negate the sway thing.
I assume we’re talking about the male psyche that is equal parts innovation and recklessness, not just the truck-trailer setup. Yes, these qualities are part of the uniqueness of men and what has pushed progress forward (and sometimes backwards, to be fair).
Whenever I find my husband doing something particularly reckless, my standard comment is “We need to increase your life insurance.”
70 to 30 in favour of “applaud the driver”! Are SDA voters behind that?
Guilty as charged!
A/C Yeah. Innovative Applause.
If he had working air brakes I don’t see what the problem is.
Would need an air brake endorsement on his driver’s licence.
Pttt. In Saskie we travel down the road without wheels on our trailers.
https://globalnews.ca/news/6219547/semi-trailer-missing-wheels-corman-park/
I suspect there is a reason the news story does not include the name of the driver involved…
If it was some guy just moving his storage trailer from one location to another not too far distant, and he stayed on secondary roads, I don’t see much problem. If he’s venturing out on the highway, or using that rig routinely, there could be a problem.
Did I see a safety chain on that rig? It’s all good then. 🙂
” – and today’s word is JACKKNIFE, boys and girls!” Rigging-up his own airbrakes, that would help. DESPERATELY hoping there’s nothing in the trailer; if there is and he got-up to any speed and had to stop, that trailer would go right over him.
Biggest problem here is there’s no weight on the back of a pickup truck; all the guys ’round here who drive them in the winter, put a round bale in the back to put some weight on the tires, and this guy should’ve done so too. Otherwise, if the trailer starts to overrun (or the airbrakes are unbalanced and pull a bit harder on one side), it’s going to get out-of-shape. Then with no weight on the back of the truck, the back-end will skid sideways, accordion the whole works and the trailer will end-up on top.
I’d call the cops – real fast. The life he takes with such chuckleheadedness, likely won’t just be his own.
hey will knott, you don’t know if there is, or isn’t weight in the back, and as been post he was doddling down back roads, not pulling a lot of speed. And at slow speed, your scenario of “jackknifing is highly improbable . Armchair analysists are just that anal. I ‘v seen a lot worst around here, and it’s usually “professional” drivers that cause mayhem
No doubt, this was prompted by “climate change”. Greta probably wouldn’t approve.
Kind of guy you want to know in the Zombie Apocalypse.
“This is why men will always run the world.” – Kate
L-Let me correct that headline for you. “This is why real men will always run the world !” 🙂
In appreciation of your unstinting defense of men and masculinity, each of the men of S.D.A. nation gift to you, a Christmas hug and kiss. To be delivered by our proxy, Lance, over the 12 days of Christmas, where ever mistletoe is hung, and in doses sufficient to distract from worldly woes.
Hitting the tip jar will be sufficient. 😉
I do a lot of towing, quite often I am towing airplanes (and especially gliders), so I bought a VW Touareg, which is very good at towing airplanes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmM-635RR6o
Don’t think I will be pulling anything like that any time soon, but cool nevertheless.
Mark, I’m not really clear about how Auto manufacturers compute their vehicles’ towing capacity.
Do they assume that the wheels of the trailer being towed are frictionless? That’s what makes all the difference.
Maybe Knott but maybe so ….he has weight in the back of the pickup….you just can’t see it.
I suspect a man who configures a setup like this knows more about trucks and trailers that the average Joe.
This:
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a30286700/gm-recall-pickups-stalling-fires-antilock-brakes/
Well there was no duck tape involved so I gather Red Green would hold back on an opinion. That said, full marks for creativity, not so much on the understanding of basic safety. A 1/2 ton Chev is rated for about 8000 lbs towing. That trailer, brakes or not weighs in at I’m guessing, 25k at least. And as mentioned on this thread, the potential for jack knifing would be huge.
Still, good for a laugh
was the driver a woman?
I don t like feminists anymore than Kate does, but i’m not sure why she says ; ” this is why men will always run the world ”
maybe I read that article too fast? I don t see where it said a woman did that
Depending on the weight of the load it would be just about impossible to stop that sucker with a pick up, even with some sort of modified air brakes.
When highway trailers get old and tired they are often sold to farmers for feed storage etc. I have worked for Ont. farmers who would work their butt off for days so they wouldn’t have to pay a tradesman a few dollars or buy anything new. I’m guessing that is what is happening here. The trailer is going to its retirement home. EMPTY if it ain’t empty it ain’t safe. It might be possible to make this rig safe if everything was done just exactly right but indications are (undersize draw pin) Mickey Mouse has helped with this jury rig and where Mickey has been ain’t nuthin’ safe. The line from the air reservoir on the trailer tounge into the pickup box indicates an air compressor there so there is adequate air to operate the brakes. If he had the good sense to install a spike valve (a lot easier than coordinating with the pickup brakes) the trailer brakes would stop the pickup without the pickup using it’s brakes, IF…THE TRAILER BRAKES WERE PROPERLY ADJUSTED. If they were not the whole rig would would be in the ditch (or worse) at the first hint of hard braking. Why would he do this? When he could just rent a small semi tractor. No air endorsement on his license? Scary thot. Who adjusted those trailer brakes?
It’s a guy thing! I once had to deliver two massive vertical motors on a small flatbed Ford 1-1/2 ton truck. The overload
was so bad the front wheels barely made contact with the road. 40+ miles on the freeway and my arms were sore from
keeping the truck on a straight line. Men take challenges and risks that women would never take. I volunteered for
the job when the regular driver came back and said no way, it was too dangerous.
my hunch? the pickup truck driver calculated a fine would be less than the cost of hiring a traditional transport truck driver and rig.
if I had max confidence in the setup, I would consider this myself.
impressed with the truck AND the pin.
far out eh?
and finally a salute to all them big rig folks, the drivers, dispatchers, mechanics, support staff, warehousemen and women
who, (drum roll) keep us clothed, fed, housed, et frigging CETERA.
Amen to that – and MERRY CHRISTMAS, and a Happy ( – and SAFE!!! – ) New Year!