That was fast. There’s usually at least another round before you people throw up your arms and start bawling.
We laugh at you, Dork. Incessantly, and constantly!
Now go marching down the street for Meethead, you gotta save his job.
Ugh “last another round” you heard that one from of your uncle’s conversation with your mother? Nope, the only occasions I even feel like pretend argue with you (pretend as bots are impervious to reason) is when I use you as an excuse to link something useful to the readership of SDA. Apart for that you are to be insulted and mocked. You’re a subhuman and are to be treated as such.
That’s a long way of admitting I’m right.
Only a subhuman victim of repeated ocular penetration could arrive at that conclusion.
My guess is .. They ate this morning, and in an hour they were hungry again..lol.. I guess a billion folk go through food pretty quick.
The Indiana soybean farmers will be happy to sell the Chinese some tofu.
The Indiana hog farmers will be happy to sell the Chinese some pork.
It seems that they might need food more than we need cheap plastic Wal-Mart garbage and new cellphones.
A whole lot of farmers in an approximately triangular area with its corners at Ohio, Minnesota, and Kansas will be
happy to sell China soybeans and pork, and I hope that all of them turn a good profit on it.
it’s a sweet and sour deal.
Billion(s) of mouths to feed … with no internally sustainable way to do it. D’ya think Trump knew that before he launched his … “negotiations”. And yet … despite his willingness to *ahem* speak his mind … he cannot publicly say he is starving them out. Trump is a “buffoonish” “loud” “clumsy” … genius negotiator … because people actually believe that’s who he is. He’s not.
Yes he is. He hasn’t negotiated a single agreement besides USMCA, which sucks and hasn’t been ratified and probably never will be. China is not getting starved out btw what an absurd idiotic thing to say. CHINA was the one imposing the tariff in the first place.
He doesn’t have to negotiate agreements – he gets what America needs by applying appropriate pressure. And THAT is the genius of Trump – agreements only outline what the parties intent to do, but they get broken time after time after time leading to long and messy appearances before bureaucrats who have NO interest in actually solving any trade dispute. The Chinese now know that Trump will starve them out and it might be more to China’s advantage to play nicely, not spy on the US, not trade in counterfeit goods, not steal American innovations, not use third countries (like Canada and our fake Chinese steel production) to dump their products into the US.
Trump’s approach is much more direct and gets the job done. Bravo.
“he gets what America needs by applying appropriate pressure.”
No he doesn’t. There’s no evidence he even knows what America needs. And again: he’s not starving China out. FFS I have some food items from China in my shelves.
un Dork with so many people on the net thinking you are a complete idiot, do you never consider you are wrong , even once in a while. because you are an ignorant of facts dimwit, nothing more
That’s a long winded way of admitting that I’m right.
You had better hope USMCA is ratified. It is a big win for Canadian industry, by specifying increased proportion of North American content in Canadian car exports to the US. This will have a beneficial effect on everything from steel to parts. It will also change the dynamic in parliament since the Libs clearly want to give Canada to China on a silver platter. The Liberals don’t like USMCA because it made them back off on their restrictions on ultrafiltered milk from the US which just happened to be a violation of the prior dairy agreement anyway. That’s a win in itself.
The Liberals have always used America as a bogey man to divert anger away from their policies which hurt Canada. Almost all their claims about rough or unfair American trade practices are untrue or incredible distortions of the actual facts, whether you’re talking about tariffs on softwood lumber or anything else.
And the very worst of all their anti-American tropes – which is practiced by both the liberals and conservatives – is to pretend that somehow Canada and Canadian firms can’t compete unless the government protects and provides favored treatment and even immunity from prosecution for those favored firms. If you want to complain about the low level of business investment in Canada this government created unfair playing field is probably the biggest cause of it.
“The Liberals have always used America as a bogey man to divert anger away from their policies which hurt Canada”
…and no surprise the next round of Liberal ads will feature how Trudeau stood up to and handled Trump. The problem is that kind of anti-American bs works every time.
And if Andy 2% hadn’t validated Trudle’s harmful trade stance – protecting Ontario and Quebec dairy farmers, no matter what the cost- he could have attacked him from the right, on how the green BS he pushes is destroying Canadian industry.
But Scheer won’t do that, because those things are not discussed at the dinner parties of the Laurentian “ elites “, and therefore out of the political bounds for the man who would be premier of all of Canada.
” It is a big win for Canadian industry, by specifying increased proportion of North American content in Canadian car exports to the US.”
That’s not a win at all. That’s protectionism. That means it’s more expensive to make cars for export to America. American consumers are the real losers here. There’s also asinine requirements on what percentage of the car assembly workforce gets paid 16 dollars an hour. This is dirigisme and you don’t know what you’re talking about.
“…CHINA was the one imposing the tariff in the first place.”
And that’s why they are maintaining the tariff on soy and pork imports. except for the tariff on imports of pork and soy that they are easing.
Of course the Chinese aren’t starving … *snicker* … which is why they don’t import $B’s in US Food annually.
China is utterly DEPENDENT upon the United States for its food security. What’s with you leftists who shout ‘claims’ and ‘slogans’ with such authority … yet know nothing. Oh! Oh! call on me, I have the answer! … it’s because the left are ignoramuses
And let me direct your attention to this little nugget from the article …
China’s industrialization has also resulted in significant environmental damage, which greatly limits domestic production capacity. Industrial pollution has tainted as many as 13 million tons of crops with heavy metals. It is estimated that almost one-sixth of China’s land has been affected by soil contamination due to toxic runoff. Water scarcity is also a concern, as the government reported in 2014 that nearly 60 percent of China’s underground water is polluted and unfit for drinking without treatment. In 2013, widespread contamination of soil, especially in southern areas like Henan province, prompted the government to prohibit the farming of 8 million acres of contaminated agricultural land until it can be rehabilitated
Growing food isn’t some unique superability. There’s lots of places that do it from Canada to Brazil to Argentina. You’re entitled to your fantasies. You’ll pay for them.
Why is the Justice Institute of British Columbia in Chilliwack training Hong Kong police right now?
Meanwhile, what’s the latest on the Chicom’s banning/restricting Canajun pork, as part of the Huawei arrest?
With the news in that article, it appears that if China is banning our pork, they are hurting themselves instead……..or is it just Chinese virtue Signalling?
China knows it can’t charge the US 10 times the import duty that the US charges on Chinese goods. What is there to even negotiate? They have such a price advantage, they had better agree to equal duties before Americans start noticing things like slave labour.
Remind me again why any civilized nation ought to be selling a morsel of food to China in the first place.
China’s problem is that there are too many military-age male Chinamen able to overthrow and kill the current leadership if they don’t get to eat more pork than the world has room to raise. China’s leaders wants to solve the problem by conquering the countries that are able to feed themselves.
The correct solution is not to export all our food to China but to reduce the Chinese population to pre-industrial levels—90 percent, minimum (from 1.4 billion to no more than 150 million)—sustainable by subsistence farming, the maximum level of development compatible with China’s no longer being a meaningful threat to western civilization.
If the Chinese want meat, let them eat long pig.
Wow that comment went dark towards the end.
I’m reading that you’re advocating the largest genocide in modern history (maybe ever) through starvation, with the remaining victims having their diet augmented by feeding them beyond-meat-green?
I suppose it’s no better than the way the Brits treated the Irish. But at least my greats had beyond-meat-greenish-white (ie fungus ridden potato).
Yikes, if / when they conquer us, would you be willing to eat dear old dad? (No double entendre intended).
China had their one child policy, they were trying to reduce growth, over the long term. The Chiners know their population is unsustainable, their food imports turn out to be their Achilles heel.
While ACs suggestion is over the top, it illustrates clearly their weak spot.
One of the left’s favorite words is … “sustainable”. Shouldn’t China’s population be “sustainable” within their own borders? Shouldn’t they be able to FEED their own people? From resources and production within their own borders? I don’t read your comments as calling for mass genocide as much as the natural consequences of STUPID (indeed, deadly) policies.
See my post (above) which identifies how the Chinese so thoroughly polluted their waters and farmland that crops are tainted and not suitable for eating. In their quest for cheap, industrial, production … China has poisoned their lands.
So shouldn’t we really be charging WalMart and Apple with genocide? American Corp’s. who have massively profited from the utter lack of environmental regulations that has led to the poisoning of Chinese land?
well pffft.
chirese are quite accustomed to lack of proper nutrition.
see: mao and the great famine.
so wtf is the prob there premier xi?
I believe it is entirely plausible that POTUS Trump saw this *precise* development when he did his thing re tariffs.
Okay I’m not the Chinese dietary expert here but with a population of 1.6B I’m pretty sure nutrition is working. Not seeing pictures on the TV of bloated stomachs and fly covered eyelids in China.
And to be clear communism=evil.
give it time soylent.
if big famines hit, chirer will be the FIRST to feel it.
besides which I was for the most part pointing to PAST events eh?
mao?
mao famine? ‘great leap forward’? 50 years ago?
plus a WHOLE BUNCH of famines before that.
they have NOT seen the last one.
m’kay mr nutrition?
You will only see what china will show you, to think otherwise is not to think.
As if Communist countries televise their travesties … ever.
And BTW … China’s food supply problems don’t need to manifest as starvation in order to create problems. No, simple food shortages, and/or higher prices can spark a revolution to overthrow the Dear Leader for Life. Xi KNOWS that not only do Armies march on full stomachs … so do China’s armies of industrial workers.
Swine flu is already a potentially huge issue in China. Should pork prices rise too much, quarantines will be too difficult to maintain and enforce, and the flu will become impossible to contain.
Add to that any disruption to the middle class and the CCP will have quite the mess to contend with.
“Eastasian forces are collapsing in Africa”
“Orange Man bad”
That was fast. There’s usually at least another round before you people throw up your arms and start bawling.
We laugh at you, Dork. Incessantly, and constantly!
Now go marching down the street for Meethead, you gotta save his job.
Ugh “last another round” you heard that one from of your uncle’s conversation with your mother? Nope, the only occasions I even feel like pretend argue with you (pretend as bots are impervious to reason) is when I use you as an excuse to link something useful to the readership of SDA. Apart for that you are to be insulted and mocked. You’re a subhuman and are to be treated as such.
That’s a long way of admitting I’m right.
Only a subhuman victim of repeated ocular penetration could arrive at that conclusion.
My guess is .. They ate this morning, and in an hour they were hungry again..lol.. I guess a billion folk go through food pretty quick.
The Indiana soybean farmers will be happy to sell the Chinese some tofu.
The Indiana hog farmers will be happy to sell the Chinese some pork.
It seems that they might need food more than we need cheap plastic Wal-Mart garbage and new cellphones.
A whole lot of farmers in an approximately triangular area with its corners at Ohio, Minnesota, and Kansas will be
happy to sell China soybeans and pork, and I hope that all of them turn a good profit on it.
it’s a sweet and sour deal.
Billion(s) of mouths to feed … with no internally sustainable way to do it. D’ya think Trump knew that before he launched his … “negotiations”. And yet … despite his willingness to *ahem* speak his mind … he cannot publicly say he is starving them out. Trump is a “buffoonish” “loud” “clumsy” … genius negotiator … because people actually believe that’s who he is. He’s not.
Yes he is. He hasn’t negotiated a single agreement besides USMCA, which sucks and hasn’t been ratified and probably never will be. China is not getting starved out btw what an absurd idiotic thing to say. CHINA was the one imposing the tariff in the first place.
He doesn’t have to negotiate agreements – he gets what America needs by applying appropriate pressure. And THAT is the genius of Trump – agreements only outline what the parties intent to do, but they get broken time after time after time leading to long and messy appearances before bureaucrats who have NO interest in actually solving any trade dispute. The Chinese now know that Trump will starve them out and it might be more to China’s advantage to play nicely, not spy on the US, not trade in counterfeit goods, not steal American innovations, not use third countries (like Canada and our fake Chinese steel production) to dump their products into the US.
Trump’s approach is much more direct and gets the job done. Bravo.
“he gets what America needs by applying appropriate pressure.”
No he doesn’t. There’s no evidence he even knows what America needs. And again: he’s not starving China out. FFS I have some food items from China in my shelves.
un Dork with so many people on the net thinking you are a complete idiot, do you never consider you are wrong , even once in a while. because you are an ignorant of facts dimwit, nothing more
That’s a long winded way of admitting that I’m right.
You had better hope USMCA is ratified. It is a big win for Canadian industry, by specifying increased proportion of North American content in Canadian car exports to the US. This will have a beneficial effect on everything from steel to parts. It will also change the dynamic in parliament since the Libs clearly want to give Canada to China on a silver platter. The Liberals don’t like USMCA because it made them back off on their restrictions on ultrafiltered milk from the US which just happened to be a violation of the prior dairy agreement anyway. That’s a win in itself.
The Liberals have always used America as a bogey man to divert anger away from their policies which hurt Canada. Almost all their claims about rough or unfair American trade practices are untrue or incredible distortions of the actual facts, whether you’re talking about tariffs on softwood lumber or anything else.
And the very worst of all their anti-American tropes – which is practiced by both the liberals and conservatives – is to pretend that somehow Canada and Canadian firms can’t compete unless the government protects and provides favored treatment and even immunity from prosecution for those favored firms. If you want to complain about the low level of business investment in Canada this government created unfair playing field is probably the biggest cause of it.
“The Liberals have always used America as a bogey man to divert anger away from their policies which hurt Canada”
…and no surprise the next round of Liberal ads will feature how Trudeau stood up to and handled Trump. The problem is that kind of anti-American bs works every time.
And if Andy 2% hadn’t validated Trudle’s harmful trade stance – protecting Ontario and Quebec dairy farmers, no matter what the cost- he could have attacked him from the right, on how the green BS he pushes is destroying Canadian industry.
But Scheer won’t do that, because those things are not discussed at the dinner parties of the Laurentian “ elites “, and therefore out of the political bounds for the man who would be premier of all of Canada.
” It is a big win for Canadian industry, by specifying increased proportion of North American content in Canadian car exports to the US.”
That’s not a win at all. That’s protectionism. That means it’s more expensive to make cars for export to America. American consumers are the real losers here. There’s also asinine requirements on what percentage of the car assembly workforce gets paid 16 dollars an hour. This is dirigisme and you don’t know what you’re talking about.
“…CHINA was the one imposing the tariff in the first place.”
And that’s why they are maintaining the tariff on soy and pork imports. except for the tariff on imports of pork and soy that they are easing.
Of course the Chinese aren’t starving … *snicker* … which is why they don’t import $B’s in US Food annually.
https://chinapower.csis.org/china-food-security/
China is utterly DEPENDENT upon the United States for its food security. What’s with you leftists who shout ‘claims’ and ‘slogans’ with such authority … yet know nothing. Oh! Oh! call on me, I have the answer! … it’s because the left are ignoramuses
And let me direct your attention to this little nugget from the article …
China’s industrialization has also resulted in significant environmental damage, which greatly limits domestic production capacity. Industrial pollution has tainted as many as 13 million tons of crops with heavy metals. It is estimated that almost one-sixth of China’s land has been affected by soil contamination due to toxic runoff. Water scarcity is also a concern, as the government reported in 2014 that nearly 60 percent of China’s underground water is polluted and unfit for drinking without treatment. In 2013, widespread contamination of soil, especially in southern areas like Henan province, prompted the government to prohibit the farming of 8 million acres of contaminated agricultural land until it can be rehabilitated
Growing food isn’t some unique superability. There’s lots of places that do it from Canada to Brazil to Argentina. You’re entitled to your fantasies. You’ll pay for them.
Why is the Justice Institute of British Columbia in Chilliwack training Hong Kong police right now?
Meanwhile, what’s the latest on the Chicom’s banning/restricting Canajun pork, as part of the Huawei arrest?
With the news in that article, it appears that if China is banning our pork, they are hurting themselves instead……..or is it just Chinese virtue Signalling?
China knows it can’t charge the US 10 times the import duty that the US charges on Chinese goods. What is there to even negotiate? They have such a price advantage, they had better agree to equal duties before Americans start noticing things like slave labour.
Remind me again why any civilized nation ought to be selling a morsel of food to China in the first place.
China’s problem is that there are too many military-age male Chinamen able to overthrow and kill the current leadership if they don’t get to eat more pork than the world has room to raise. China’s leaders wants to solve the problem by conquering the countries that are able to feed themselves.
The correct solution is not to export all our food to China but to reduce the Chinese population to pre-industrial levels—90 percent, minimum (from 1.4 billion to no more than 150 million)—sustainable by subsistence farming, the maximum level of development compatible with China’s no longer being a meaningful threat to western civilization.
If the Chinese want meat, let them eat long pig.
Wow that comment went dark towards the end.
I’m reading that you’re advocating the largest genocide in modern history (maybe ever) through starvation, with the remaining victims having their diet augmented by feeding them beyond-meat-green?
I suppose it’s no better than the way the Brits treated the Irish. But at least my greats had beyond-meat-greenish-white (ie fungus ridden potato).
Yikes, if / when they conquer us, would you be willing to eat dear old dad? (No double entendre intended).
China had their one child policy, they were trying to reduce growth, over the long term. The Chiners know their population is unsustainable, their food imports turn out to be their Achilles heel.
While ACs suggestion is over the top, it illustrates clearly their weak spot.
One of the left’s favorite words is … “sustainable”. Shouldn’t China’s population be “sustainable” within their own borders? Shouldn’t they be able to FEED their own people? From resources and production within their own borders? I don’t read your comments as calling for mass genocide as much as the natural consequences of STUPID (indeed, deadly) policies.
See my post (above) which identifies how the Chinese so thoroughly polluted their waters and farmland that crops are tainted and not suitable for eating. In their quest for cheap, industrial, production … China has poisoned their lands.
So shouldn’t we really be charging WalMart and Apple with genocide? American Corp’s. who have massively profited from the utter lack of environmental regulations that has led to the poisoning of Chinese land?
well pffft.
chirese are quite accustomed to lack of proper nutrition.
see: mao and the great famine.
so wtf is the prob there premier xi?
I believe it is entirely plausible that POTUS Trump saw this *precise* development when he did his thing re tariffs.
Okay I’m not the Chinese dietary expert here but with a population of 1.6B I’m pretty sure nutrition is working. Not seeing pictures on the TV of bloated stomachs and fly covered eyelids in China.
And to be clear communism=evil.
give it time soylent.
if big famines hit, chirer will be the FIRST to feel it.
besides which I was for the most part pointing to PAST events eh?
mao?
mao famine? ‘great leap forward’? 50 years ago?
plus a WHOLE BUNCH of famines before that.
they have NOT seen the last one.
m’kay mr nutrition?
You will only see what china will show you, to think otherwise is not to think.
As if Communist countries televise their travesties … ever.
And BTW … China’s food supply problems don’t need to manifest as starvation in order to create problems. No, simple food shortages, and/or higher prices can spark a revolution to overthrow the Dear Leader for Life. Xi KNOWS that not only do Armies march on full stomachs … so do China’s armies of industrial workers.
Swine flu is already a potentially huge issue in China. Should pork prices rise too much, quarantines will be too difficult to maintain and enforce, and the flu will become impossible to contain.
Add to that any disruption to the middle class and the CCP will have quite the mess to contend with.